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On November 19 2012 03:30 Firkraag8 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 02:08 Veriol wrote:On November 19 2012 01:13 zEEzz wrote:
without tier 1 zerg koreans, the protoss could do their job well and honor the Zertahul Flag.
it was a nice tournament, by the way. What tier 1 koreans you have in mind? DRG, Leenock, BBoong, Coca didnt qualify from korean qualifier Life, Zenio, Nestea, Symbol, Hyun didnt even qualify for the korean qualifier mentioned above. So yeah..  Exactly, some might forget that this wasn't an invite global finals it has gone through tons of qualifiers including the best Korean Zerg's.
Good Point, hopefully blizzard will see that zerg isn't imba vs protoss. Its just that american protoss are extremely bad compared to koreans. If you look at korean ZvP data, protoss is favoured
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I wish Suppy got more attention! Vortix gets a mention for going 2-1 against Creator before falling, but Suppy was 2-0 vs Parting before his new warp prism shenanigans started to mess with Suppy.
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On November 19 2012 02:20 mishimaBeef wrote:
heavyweight foreigners like sen nerchio scarlett and stephano that are doing very well lately were probably scouted throroughly compared to the rest... this explains the death of them by koreans
idra and the rest did very well, credit to them... but i feel they were not prepared for and the koreans didn't know what to expect...
i feel this is part of the issue why foreigners can't consistently bash koreans because once their styles are studied and analyzed, it is much harder
i had creator to take it all but i knew it would be tough getting through rain... gratz to parting... looks like the right protosses are in code s
Did you watch the games? Or at least look closely at results?
Stephano, Nerchio and Scarlett didnt lose because they got studied. You can't even really study zerg players. They are the reactive race.
Stephano was overall 3-2 vs HerO, Nerchio 1-2 vs Creator.
I don't really see the difference to zergs who did well: Suppy 2-3 Parting, vortix 2-3 Creator, killer 0-3 Rain. All of them didnt beat any koreans as well.
Scarlett was overall 0-5 vs Creator and Parting. She just looked bad herself in these games.
Idra only beat Roro (for Koreans) which was the first game and Roro probably prepared for that.
Only Babyknight really surprised Rain with his builds. Titans wins were all pretty standard.
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When Sen defeated Hero and went to Hero's booth to shake his hand, Hero had such BM and just refused to shake hand. Hero acted anything but Hero-like, more like a sore loser to me. Was I the only one who caught that?
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it was a nice tournament but i hoped for a better production and a bigger winner ceremony.
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The award ceremony was damn underwhelming. Asians are so shy, just mostly as a cultural thing. Also a bunch of nerds who are good at video games are often not the best showmen.
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anyone else think it was BM that hero was the only one who went on the main stage that refused to shake the winners hand?
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On November 19 2012 02:10 TheDougler wrote:Overall a good tournament, but I really hope that the meta game is in a better place by the time the next one rolls around .
I think, in a tournament like this where the entire process covers months of time, it's possible for people to qualify with one metagame and wind up having to adjust to the changing metagame for the finals. It's kindof a nice thing, I think - you can win a GSL without the game shifting around you too much, but it takes a real concerted effort to stay on top of things and maintain that level of awesome for a long period of time.
(Yes, this makes MVP super amazing and he needs that G5L trophy.)
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Such tactics also backfired, with PartinG losing a game after his proxy robotics bay was quickly scouted by Creator.
I'm pretty sure Parting won that game.
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I just can´t wait for a Zerg nerf so the korean terrans can show these pathetic foreigners who is wearing pants.
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final 3 are protoss, zerg must be OP and imba right? hopefully people wake up soon
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congrats parting. finally having a major tourney under his belt.
also congrats at creator and rain...
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On November 19 2012 03:42 Dudasc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2012 03:30 Firkraag8 wrote:On November 19 2012 02:08 Veriol wrote:On November 19 2012 01:13 zEEzz wrote:
without tier 1 zerg koreans, the protoss could do their job well and honor the Zertahul Flag.
it was a nice tournament, by the way. What tier 1 koreans you have in mind? DRG, Leenock, BBoong, Coca didnt qualify from korean qualifier Life, Zenio, Nestea, Symbol, Hyun didnt even qualify for the korean qualifier mentioned above. So yeah.. Exactly, some might forget that this wasn't an invite global finals it has gone through tons of qualifiers including the best Korean Zerg's. Good Point, hopefully blizzard will see that zerg isn't imba vs protoss. Its just that american protoss are extremely bad compared to koreans. If you look at korean ZvP data, protoss is favoured
As if that is the problem this MU has.
If you read the report well, you found out that there are 2 possible ways to win as protoss. That's not a lot of depth if you ask me.
Most likely everybody would be more happy, if sentries weren't such a must and infestor is even worse.
And we all can be sure that blizzard is not really looking at this tournament for balance. The koreans champions were protoss - so the world champions are protoss.
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So happy my favorite player won!
And Ro8 was quite the story:
- 4x PvZ
- 4x Korean toss
- 4x foreigner zerg (1 from Asia, 1 from Europe, 1 from Latin America, 1 from North America, huh - quite the story)
So it was quite funny watching it on several streams at once, at times confusing up who was playing :D
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rain is the master, only sucks that he had to pvp his way to the finals T_T
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It bothered me that both Shakuras AND Tal'Darim was in the supposedly "greatest" sc2 tournament to date. Keep up with the times imo  .
Besides that it was a great tourney. Parting deserved that win, but am I the only one impressed by Sen's preformance?!
I mean, he's not exactly one of the biggest names atm, but still manages to get top 4 somewhat consistently in premiers(3rd NASL1 & 2, 3rd Blizzcon 2011, 4th WCS 2012)!
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Great series. Wonderful event.
And cheers on the Douglas Adams quote.
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