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[GSTL3] TSL vs. FXOpen Preview

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[GSTL3] TSL vs. FXOpen Preview

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October 11th, 2012 20:55 GMT


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Playoff Panic
Intro


TSL vs FXOpen
Preview


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Playoff Panic



The initial matches of the Round of Eight group stage have been played, and now we move on to the first winners match where a spot in the playoffs is on the line. On one side we have the defending champions, FXOpen, while in the other corner we have Team SCV Life, looking to make their third consecutive playoffs in 2012.

Team SCV Life

FXOpen



by stuchiu

On the Cusp

The defending champions FXO will now go up against perennial semi-finalists in TSL with a top four, playoff berth on the line. This will be a very interesting match as both teams are similar in having attained success with smaller, leaner rosters compared to some of the other teams in the GSTL. Coaching decisions will be key in this match-up, and there should be a lot of creative picks and counter picks.

Though FXOpen is no LG-IM or StartaleQ, they have a wider range of players and races to choose from compared to TSL, with solid aces for each race in Gumiho, Leenock, and Tear. While their bench is not spectacular, they have decent options in players like Lucky, Sirius, asd, TheBest and so forth. While they overachieved slightly to win the GSTL last season, FXO is on the whole, a very balanced team with no glaring weaknesses.

Team Swarm Life is far from balanced, relying heavily on a Zerg line-up of Symbol, Hyun, Revival and Shine. Ragnarok is a decent player as well, making them the only team in the GSTL that could field a truly competitive, one-race line-up. Their only reliable non-Zerg player is Polt, a player who has had trouble performing as well in team competitions as he has in individual leagues. Inori is the team's sole option for Protoss firepower, but unfortunately he seems more than a little bit shakey. The lack of depth in Terran and Protoss is definitely TSL's biggest weakness, but their Zerg line has been strong enough to keep them in the upper half of the competition.


The Opening Match: (P)FXOChoya vs. (P)TSL_inori - Cloud Kingdom

While some expected Choya to find even more playing time after Oz's departure from FXO, the player/head coach actually took a backseat last season and allowed Tear to handle most of the Protoss workload (to great effect, we might add). Now Choya has put himself back in the fray, which has always been something of a double-edged sword. His well-prepared builds have surprised 'better' players like Keen and MMA, but on the whole Choya sports a sub 50% win-rate in team leagues.

Choya's opponent, will have just as much to prove, as Inori comes in with the GSL's longest losing streak in terms of absolute time, not having won a GSL match since 2010. He hasn't fared very well outside the GSL either, having more losses than wins in various international team leagues, making this a match between the black sheep of both teams. Whoever takes this match will get a much needed win, but the losing team is likely to tie it right back at 1 - 1.


The Rosters:

FXOpen

Three of the FXO spots will be reserved for the main three in Gumiho, Leenock and Tear. Or so one would think. Korean coaches are famous for their unexpected personnel decisions, and without knowing how players perform at in-house practice, it's hard to judge if such decisions are justified. But with a direct play-off berth on the line, it's hard to imagine a world where Choya is not planning to play his power trio. Generally, FXO has used the last 2 spots for the other Zergs on the team such as Whale, Sirius and Lucky, but Choya has already changed it up by playing himself as the point man.

(T)GuMiho: FXO's ace Terran player, and on occasion, just the ace overall. His multi-tasking and macro builds are his best traits, and he has very strong TvZ and TvT, making him particularly suited for taking out TSL. Of all the FXO players, he is the one you could say is the most streaky, as we all saw in the finals of the previous GSTL where he all-killed SlayerS. Streakiness is one the most valuable traits in the GSTL, and Gumiho might even be FXO's best GSTL player just because of it.

(Z)Leenock: Leenock is FXO’s second ace, and he is also a potential TSL killer with strong ZvT and ZvZ. I imagine FXO may be saving him as the designated anti-Polt sniper, although his good ZvZ makes him a fine choice against everyone else as well. Leenock's recent mastery of turtle-hive, in total contrast to the styles he has shown us for nearly two years, means that Polt will have to play his very best to have a chance (that or 11/11 rax).

(P)Tear: While Gumiho and Leenock have much more fame as FXO’s aces, Tear did just as much of the heavy lifting last season. As luck would have it, Tear is also a strong vs. Zerg player. It's hard to say where FXO will want to drop him in the line-up, but it might be deeper into the series after some of the less favorable PvZ maps have been used.

The Zergs - (Z)Lucky, (Z)Sirius and (Z)Whale: FXO almost always use one of their rotation Zergs in team league games, and FXO will be shopping for bargain deals with these three. While not as volatile as PvP, ZvZ still allows a weaker player to narrow the skill gap drastically through a blind build order counter, and FXO will try to trade one of these Zergs for one of the TSL’s.

The Terrans - (T)TheBest and (T)asd: asd has been playing well lately, but the level of the TSL Zergs' ZvT is probably above him. I have zero clue as to how TheBest is doing now, but FXO has always had a peculiar love of sending in TheBest so you never know.



Team SCV Life

Currently, TSL’s roster is fairly lean and usually 4 of the spots are locked up in Polt, Symbol, HyuN, and Shine. The strategy here is probably to save Symbol until the very end, while the first 4 players will try to knock out as many players as possible. While Symbol hasn't been able to break the Ro8 barrier in the GSL, he's still one of the better aces in the GSTL and an all-kill waiting to happen.

The extras - (T)Punisher, (Z)Revival and (Z)RagnaroK: TSL should feel pretty happy about drawing a PvP with Choya, which is probably the best match-up they could have hoped to use Inori in. With Inori already confirmed, one wonders if they'll be using any of the players in this list, though Shine's spot is occasionally taken by Revival or Ragnarok instead. With Shine having had to prepare for his Code A match yesterday, there's a possibility we'll see that kind of substitution occur tonight.

(Z)Shine: Shine is an overall strong player with a specialty in ZvT, and could challenge Gumiho if he's playing his best. However, he's probably spent most of his time practicing for his ZvP match against Terminator in Code A last night, and might not even play tonight unless it's against Tear or Choya.

(Z)HyuN: The last time I previewed Hyun he had won eight IPL Fight Clubs. He has now won a ninth. At this point, Hyun’s skill is unquestionable, it’s now about Hyun getting past his nerves, overconfidence, or whatever it is that stops him from recreating those performances in the GSL. #2 seems like a good spot for HyuN, as it's a spot with the least pressure, and HyuN definitely has all-kill power.

(T)Polt: Polt is a bit of a conundrum in team leagues. He’s certainly strong enough to take down anyone on the FXO team. On the other hand, he rarely goes on hot streaks. Though he's the team captain, a better roll for Polt might be as a designated sniper, prepared to cut any hot-streak short.

(Z)Symbol: When all else fails Symbol will win. Symbol rarely fails as the ace of TSL and has once again proven himself in the clutch by beating both MKP and Byun in the last match against Prime. While it would seem like a tall order to defeat a triple threat of Gumiho, Tear and Leenock, Symbol has always shown his best play in the team leagues pulling off seemingly impossible feats.


Overall Prediction:

It's very close, but FXO should be able to take out TSL here. They haven’t lost any of the steam that made them champions last season, and their roster matches up very well against the Zerg-heavy TSL. On the other hand, TSL has been carried for quite a bit by Symbol, who while showing very strong Zerg play, hasn’t quite reached back to the level he was playing at months ago when he all-killed LG-IM. Either way this should be a tense and exciting match.

FXO 5 - 4 TSL









Writers: stuchiu.
Graphics: Pathy.
Editor: Waxangel.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
October 11 2012 20:59 GMT
#2
GO FXO!!!

I hope Polt wins though.
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astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
October 11 2012 21:14 GMT
#3
With these predictions it looks to be a great match, but I really hope TSL can pull the win out on this one!
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 11 2012 21:15 GMT
#4
FXO gonna win this easily IMO. TSL can still surprise me tho
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
October 11 2012 21:17 GMT
#5
TSL win EASy
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
October 11 2012 21:18 GMT
#6
I can't decide who I want to win!! I love both these team so much~~ May the best team win!!
Long live the Boss Toss!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
October 11 2012 21:19 GMT
#7
Me thinks TSL has the edge on this one, a more consistent line-up with overall stronger players tells me that TSL got this one.
I think it will end TSL 5-3 like last time.
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Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
October 11 2012 21:37 GMT
#8
its going to go similar to Prime vs TSL, wins back n forth with Symbol clinching it. TSL should win here.
Paincarnate
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
115 Posts
October 11 2012 21:37 GMT
#9
Symbol reverse-all kill.


Oh wait, it's Choya. Alright, fine, Team SymboL taking it anyway.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
October 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#10
Thus begins another season of FXO being perennial underdogs, I suppose. Silly me for thinking something trivial like a GSTL win might finally make people realize that they're a top contender.

Oh well. It'll be fun sitting on the sidelines, watching them crush face after face, my shit-eating grin growing ever larger.

FXO 5-3, 5-4 depending on how well Symbol plays.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 11 2012 21:53 GMT
#11
FXO fighting!!!!!
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 11 2012 22:01 GMT
#12
I'm more keen in a Revival pick to snipe either Leenock or Lucky than seeing Shine imho.
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Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 11 2012 22:03 GMT
#13
Bonkers move from FXO to send out Choya first, he's absolute cannon-fodder

Assuming Inori does win, who does FXO have to beat him without sending out 1 of their aces out early? Tear couldn't do it so it means a Zerg who will probably get taken out by a Zerg from TSL which will force an Ace out early.

5-1 TSL my prediction.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 11 2012 22:04 GMT
#14
Gogo FXO!
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 11 2012 22:04 GMT
#15
On October 12 2012 07:03 Mackus wrote:
Bonkers move from FXO to send out Choya first, he's absolute cannon-fodder

Assuming Inori does win, who does FXO have to beat him without sending out 1 of their aces out early? Tear couldn't do it so it means a Zerg who will probably get taken out by a Zerg from TSL which will force an Ace out early.

5-1 TSL my prediction.

inori is cannon fodder too, lol. apparently the guy hasn't won a gomtv game for two years
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Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 22:12:46
October 11 2012 22:09 GMT
#16
On October 12 2012 07:04 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 07:03 Mackus wrote:
Bonkers move from FXO to send out Choya first, he's absolute cannon-fodder

Assuming Inori does win, who does FXO have to beat him without sending out 1 of their aces out early? Tear couldn't do it so it means a Zerg who will probably get taken out by a Zerg from TSL which will force an Ace out early.

5-1 TSL my prediction.

inori is cannon fodder too, lol. apparently the guy hasn't won a gomtv game for two years


Inori is still rocking in PvP which makes the decision to send out Choya even more bonkers, it was only a few month ago he made top #8 at MLG in the Spring
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 11 2012 22:15 GMT
#17
On October 12 2012 07:09 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 07:04 opterown wrote:
On October 12 2012 07:03 Mackus wrote:
Bonkers move from FXO to send out Choya first, he's absolute cannon-fodder

Assuming Inori does win, who does FXO have to beat him without sending out 1 of their aces out early? Tear couldn't do it so it means a Zerg who will probably get taken out by a Zerg from TSL which will force an Ace out early.

5-1 TSL my prediction.

inori is cannon fodder too, lol. apparently the guy hasn't won a gomtv game for two years


Inori is still rocking in PvP which makes the decision to send out Choya even more bonkers, it was only a few month ago he made top #8 at MLG in the Spring

inori has a reputation for PvP that he doesn't really deserve - he never really was a great at the matchup -
inori - 42%

choya - 44%

neither of them are very good, but inori is very easily taken out
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baranar
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden21 Posts
October 11 2012 22:34 GMT
#18
here's me rooting for a Choya allkill <3
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
October 11 2012 22:42 GMT
#19
Predicting TSL to win this one. As good as leenock is, I think symbol is better. As good as Gumiho is, I think Polt is better. With Hyun in their back pocket, I don't see any way of FXO taking it unless Choya can win game 1 and get the ball rolling. We'll see, but I'm predicting TSL 5-3.
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