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[Code S] Ro32 Group D Preview/C Recap

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Code S Ro32: Group C Recap


By: stuchiu

Results from Live report thread by opterown.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
MC vs. Jaedong
(P)MC <Daybreak> (Z)Jaedong
(P)MC <Whirlwind> (Z)Jaedong
(P)MC <> (Z)Jaedong

(P)MC Wins 2-0!

Curious vs. MarineKing
(Z)Curious <Entombed Valley> (T)MarineKing
(Z)Curious <Daybreak> (T)MarineKing
(Z)Curious <Antiga Shipyard> (T)MarineKing

(Z)Curious Wins 2-1!

Winners' Match
(P)MC <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)Curious
(P)MC <Cloud Kingdom> (Z)Curious
(P)MC <> (Z)Curious

(Z)Curious Wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(Z)Jaedong <Antiga Shipyard> (T)MarineKing
(Z)Jaedong <Entombed Valley> (T)MarineKing
(Z)Jaedong <Daybreak> (T)MarineKing

(T)MarineKing Wins 2-1!

Final Match
(P)MC <Ohana> (T)MarineKing
(P)MC <Antiga Shipyard> (T)MarineKing
(P)MC <Cloud Kingdom> (T)MarineKing

(T)MarineKing Wins 2-1!



(Z)Curious and (T)MarineKing advance to Code S RO16!


Curious Kills the Cats
- Curious defeats MarineKing and MC to advance from Group C in first place.


Last night, Curious showed his most dominating performance in GSL Code S since he entered the league. Squeezed into a group full with some of the biggest names in Korean Starcraft, Curious stole the show by defeating multiple finalists MKP and MC to emerge in first place.

The night started rough for Curious, as he lost his first game to MKP on Entombed. MKP opened normally with a cloaked banshee hellion harass at the front, while Curious used 6 queens and zerglings to defend. However, the pressure became a full on assault and with the use of the narrow hall connecting the natural and third bases, Curious lost all of his queens and speedlings. Because of this, he was caught mid transition into the ling infestor style before spotting MKP’s mech strategy. Curious switched over back to roach infestor and eventually broodlords, but MKP had expansions, more production and superior upgrades, and was able to brute force his way to victory.

In the next game, Curious started to show some of his new-found unorthodox play by using a 2 base nydus roach queen bust at the front of MKP’s natural. This caught MKP completely by surprise as his main forces of hellion banshee was at Curious natural, and at home he was going reactor vikings with a third CC. Curious pressed his attack while defending the hellion run by and eventually forced MKP to GG.

In the final game, MKP went into the standard 3 CC into double engineering bays, while harassing with some hellions. Curious got a somewhat faster spire and his mutalisks caught MKP completely off guard. With his mutas and speedlings, Curious was able to keep MKP pinned back while taking the map. Once they entered the late game, Curious completely outmaneuvered his opponent. When MKP moved to the center to establish a 4th, Curious backstabbed MKP in the third with a large group of ling bane where he slaughtered all of the scvs, while at the same time, MKP’s army was wiped out by infestors and banelings as they attempted a counter attack. With those two engagements, Curious was able to safely tech to brood lords and secure a massive economy. After that, Curious kept throwing hive units MKP's way until his opponent was forced to GG at last.

Curious then faced off with MC in the winner’s match, starting with Antiga. It started with a standard 3 hatch against a forge expo into a sentry immortal army comp. Off of the back of that sentry immortal army, MC got a third. But Curious played a strong roach ling style into mass mutalisks. With that composition, Curious was able to kill the third and keep MC pinned back while double expanding on the other two mains on the map. As the ling muta army slowly diminished in effectiveness, Curious continued to transition more and more into mass infestor and broodlord with a great wall of spines and spores. Eventually, the game came down to an explosive elimination race, where Curious felt he was too committed to return home and MC could not dare to engage the Zerg army. So Curious uprooted his spores, built as many infestors as possible and placed 4 infestors adjacent to MC’s main to catch and kill his mothership. The game eventually ended with MC trying to make a move killing the last spores, but there was just too many infestors and broodlords.

After all that trouble on Antiga, Curious would take a relatively easy win to secure passage to the Ro16. MC tried to do some fast zealot cannon pressure on Curious’ third to open game two, but was completely shut down. With that, Curious surged massively ahead and used that advantage to get double evo ups for lings and a spire. MC went for an 8-gate + phoenix all-in to follow-up, which Curious responded to by giving up his third base while pillaging MC's main and natural with mutalisks. At the end of it all, Curious came out looking far better than MC. MC got phoenix range to try to stay relevant in the game, but it was a largely futile gesture. Curious had already double expanded and finished teching to infestors, and with one fungal, ended the game.

The King Finds a Way
- After three extremely close series, MKP is able to make it through to the Ro16.


After falling to Curious, it was MKP began his road to recovery by facing the Tyrant. Jaedong had dropped down to the losers match after losing a very close series against MC, proving he would be no walkover, even to a GSL finalist.

The first match was on Antiga, where MKP used his mech strategy again to try to harass Jaedong. Jaedong held off the attack with ling bane muta while going up to 2-2 upgrades. Jaedong immediately struck back with his mutalisks, ravaging the third base and scouting MKP’s mech army. Jaedong reacted by adding a roach warren, gearing up for a big timing attack with speed roaches and banes. It worked out exactly like he hoped, and Jaedong was able to kill MKP’s army and finish him off in game one.

Going into game 2 on entombed, MKP looked deep into himself and showed Jaedong the experience of a player that had been playing SC2 for two years. He did a proxy double rax and pulled a bitbybit. Jaedong was unable to deal with the pressure, losing too many drones in an overaggressive defense, forcing game three.

In Game 3, MKP went for his other signature move, the base trade. Jaedong got an early advantage by going triple hatch into gas and then into pool, while MKP played his standard hellions into 3 base terran with double upgrades. The situation devolved into a base trade when MKP pushed forward with a large marine tank medivac army while Jaedong countered with a mass of muta ling bane. Unfortunately for Jaedong, MKP managed to kill his baneling nest before speed was complete, and he was lacking the crucial upgrade when he returned home to try and fight MKP's army. Predictably, the king of marines didn't have much trouble fighting off slow-banes. Jaedong continued to fight on using his last 10 mutalisks to try to kill the last of the floating buildings, but MKP had more than enough troops left to split up on attack and defense. While a group of marines defended his orbitals, the rest discovered the location of Jaedong's hidden base, upon which Jaedong conceded the GG.

MKP then faced off MC in the last match of the night. MKP having remembered the taste of a good all-in from his previous series with Jaedong, opened with a 1-1-1 on Ohana. MC was able to hold it off and eventually crushed MKP’s army of marines and tanks with just immortal colossi and blink stalkers.

In the second game, both players felt the pressure and played extremely safe builds on Antiga. MKP would push with his standard bio medivac force while getting a third and getting a second starport. MC would tech up to colossi and with a strong army, safely taking a third base. The game came down to MKP attacking MC before his transition to templar, where some terrible colossi positioning allowed MKP win a landslide victory to tie up the series.

The last game of the night was on Cloud Kingdom. In the third set, MKP once more pulled out the 1-1-1, this time using a reactor hellion medivac opening rather than the cloak banshee. Once again MC scouted early and teched immediately to stargate for the phoenixes. Once the inital hellion harass was pushed back, MC counter attacked while building a robo. Then, everything fell apart for MC. The hellions came back, and with no army, MC was forced to pylon block his main. At the same time, he carelessly lost 2 stalkers to 4 marines and a medivac while trying to pressure MKP's main. Then, he canceled his robo, and then remade it as the cloaked banshee hit his base, losing almost twenty probes in the process. And finally, MC misclicked and accidentally made a second robo instead of the robotics bay. After that, MKP needed only point his troops in the general direction of MC's base to take the game.

Jaedong First Impressions
- Jaedong narrowly fails to defeat MC in the first match of the night


In the first game of the night Jaedong played MC on Daybreak, where Jaedong turned many heads with his impressive ZvP. MC went stargate into collosus bay into a third base, but found himself flustered by Jaedong's muta-ling attacks. From there, Jaedong took his advantage and went for more expos and teched to infestor broodlords. However, despite showing great muta-ling play to take the lead and set himself up in a powerful late game position, Jaedong's actual late game management left much to be desired. Unnecessary sacrifices of broodlords and infestors for little gain allowed MC to claw his way back into the game, and eventually score the comeback win with a good vortex engagement.

The second game was on Whirlwind, where Jaedong held off MC’s gate before nexus into 4 gate build with mass speedlings. There, Jaedong tried to end the game with a mass ling roach drop on the natural, but was indecisive upon discovering the third base of MC. Caught between the two forces, Jaedong went for the natural, but was cleaned up. Eventually MC pushed out and Jaedong tried to backstab with a large drop, but was denied. With these units out of position, MC’s army was too large for Jaedong to deal with and by the time Jaedong’s units came back from the drop, MC had already won the game.

Overall, Jaedong showed some strong unit control, strong harassment and great creep spread. On the other hand, his larvae injects were subpar in many of his games. He overcommitted mutas against marines a few times and seemed unable to deal with MKP’s 2 rax or his base trade. He seemed lost in the late game ZvP army control and felt weak to strong 3 base protoss pushes. Jaedong has shown some good potential, but he still needs more experience in the game before he can fight head to head with Code S level players.

Code S Ro32: Group D Preview


By: Waxangel

Group D: (T)ByuNPrime, (P)SKT_Rain, (T)LG-IM_Happy, (P)SlayerS_Genius

(T)ByuNPrime vs. (P)SKT_Rain

Understandably, most fans were focused on star players like Flash, Jaedong, and Bisu when KeSPA officially announced their change to StarCraft II. But was it any surprise that the player to emerge at the head of the pack of elephants, turns out to be one who is more similar to his GomTV brethren than the fabled TaekBaengLeeSsang? Rain (aka By.Sun) was by no means a superstar in his Brood War days, though neither was he a player with a 1 – 9 record in Proleague. Kindly put, he was one of the rank and file – albeit, towards the upper end.

Whatever the link between Brood War and Starcraft II skill may be, By.Rain comes into Code S as the finest Starcraft II player the KeSPA teams have to offer. Already racking up a great 13 – 7 Proleague record, Rain comes into this match with wins against GSL top dogs Curious, Leenock, MarineKing, and DongRaeGu. Rain's Code S Seed wasn't charity, it was fully deserved.

Interestingly enough, Rain has somehow found himself in a group where he won't be able to play his best match-up of PvZ. On top of that, his first opponent happens to be Byun, a player who's masterful at TvP – which also happen to be Rain's least tested match-up. Yes, Rain did beat MKP in the OSL last week, but the consensus is that MKP had a huge lead, and lost more because of his own mistakes than because Rain impressed.

Furthermore, Byun's style isn't one that Rain will relish facing. While Byun is perfectly capable of playing a standard macro game, he prefers to stay highly unpredictable, using a variety of one and two base all-in builds to catch his opponents off-guard. Rain's biggest strength is his solid textbook play, and he may not yet have the experience to deal with a player as unorthodox as Byun.

Of course, there's always the lingering possibility of self-defeat, as we saw frequently from GomTV players during WCS Korea. Byun isn't exactly known for his mental fortitude, and he may crumble under the pressure of facing an opponent he 'should' beat. Luckily for Byun, enough GomTV players have lost to KeSPA players so that it's not a must-win scenario like it was before. Still, after seeing how easily rattled he was in last season's semi-finals, it's not hard to see him getting more preoccupied with the nasty comments on DCInside than his opponent's strategy.

(T)LG-IM_Happy vs. (P)SlayerS_Genius

At this moment, I still can't quite believe Happy made it through. Last season, he was only able to defeat Code S whipping boy Suhoshin before dropping out of the Ro32. At WCS Korea, he showed some seriously shaky play that could only be ascribed to nerves or typhoid fever. When he failed to be deployed at all during the IPL TAC3 finals series against Liquid, it came as no great surprise.

Thus, obviously we picked him to finish dead last in his Up/Down group, and obviously, he went 4 – 1 just to spite us. It leaves us starkly confused as to where he stands as a player – but we admit he deserves another chance after such a performance. YoDa has recently usurped him on the depth LG-IM depth chart, but a good Code S run could see Happy retake his position as the team's #2 Terran behind Mvp.

His first opponent is a strange one, and it's difficult to say if it's a stroke of luck or a disaster. After being brilliant in 2012's first Code S Season, Genius has reverted back to his old ways of coasting along in Code S. This will be his tenth Code S Season (alas, no Nestea award for Genius, as he dropped to Code A once in November 2011), and if there's anything certain about Genius' motivations, it's that he wants to hang on for for an eleventh. He may not be a player you'd pick to go far, but he's definitely a player you'd pick to hang around in Code S no matter what.

Match-up wise, Genius could be trouble for Happy. If anything, Genius is good at playing towards the deathball phase of the game, where Happy has shown some pretty mixed ability when games go long. Additionally, Happy hasn't looked particularly strong against early cheese rushes either, and Genius isn't averse to mixing it up. It wouldn't be shocking to see a repeat of their match in the previous season, where they traded macro games one a piece, and Genius then took the rubber match with a two base colossus attack.

Overall Outlook and Predictions

Overall, this group is actually pretty even. None of these players jumps out at you as "championship material," but they're very good players who could go deep with a bit of that ever-crucial tournament luck. This group boils down to TvP, TvT, and PvP, and thus Byun is probably the slight favorite here. His TvP is his strongest match-up, and there's no real advantage to either side in the mirror against Happy. Rain is at a slight disadvantage without a Zerg opponent, being stuck playing his least tested match-up, and flipping coins against Genius in a PvP. Happy and Genius are stuck somewhere in the middle, as darkhorse candidates who could surprise.

Byun > Rain
Genius > Happy
Byun > Genius
Rain > Happy
Rain > Genius

Byun and Rain advance.




Writer: stuchiu and Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editor: Waxangel.
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Maleta
Profile Joined September 2012
Chile150 Posts
September 06 2012 01:17 GMT
#2
i think rain can do pretty well this gsl
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TheCupholder
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada58 Posts
September 06 2012 01:19 GMT
#3
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke
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sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
September 06 2012 01:20 GMT
#4
going for two in a row :D
i pick byun/genius
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
September 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#5
Nice recap, hope JD can impress in code A and Hope MKP can become his early 2012 self in Ro16.
Byun>Rain
Genius>happy
Byun>Genius
Rain>Happy
Genius>Rain
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 06 2012 01:26 GMT
#6
Rain has been playing too well lately to ignore. I honestly think he's shown PvZ well above and beyond his Kespa counterparts and some decent PvP also.

PvT I'm still unsure of for him though and he has to do it against Byun.

Byun should be the strongest player here, but he looked so freaking nervous last season that he was scary to watch. You felt like he'd have a heart attack any minute every minute.

Genius and Rain are probably the safest bets. Byun and Rain if both players don't fall apart. Happy to spite Waxangel.

More importantly: Starception has Genius and Rain advancing. He's 4/6 to TL writer's 3/6.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 06 2012 01:30 GMT
#7
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.
Refer to my post.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
September 06 2012 01:33 GMT
#8
On September 06 2012 10:22 isaachukfan wrote:
Nice recap, hope JD can impress in code A and Hope MKP can become his early 2012 self in Ro16.
Byun>Rain
Genius>happy
Byun>Genius
Rain>Happy
Genius>Rain

mkp at his best never even passed ro 16 this year, but depending on his group he can obviously get through
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 06 2012 01:34 GMT
#9
Your predictions are identical to what I was going to go with! Good luck Byun and Rain!
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
September 06 2012 01:37 GMT
#10
My predictions are:

Rain>Byun
Genius>Happy
Genius>Rain
Byun>Happy
Rain>Byun

Genius and Rain to advance.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 06 2012 01:40 GMT
#11
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke


Why not? PvP yo, Rain beat Dongraegu and Marineking who says he can't beat Genius in a PvP ;o
TheCupholder
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada58 Posts
September 06 2012 01:41 GMT
#12
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.
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zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
September 06 2012 01:53 GMT
#13
On September 06 2012 10:41 TheCupholder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.


Did you not watch WCS?
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 06 2012 01:56 GMT
#14
Going into game 2 on entombed, MKP looked deep into himself and showed Jaedong the experience of a player that had been playing SC2 for two years. He did a proxy double rax and pulled a bitbybit.

Trademark of the veterans, hell yes.

Grats to Curious and MKP.
Gorilla23
Profile Joined March 2012
United States339 Posts
September 06 2012 01:57 GMT
#15
On September 06 2012 10:41 TheCupholder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.


I agree that JD was not ready for Code S, but Rain surely is ready.
RollingTheDice
Profile Joined September 2012
6 Posts
September 06 2012 01:59 GMT
#16
Byun wont make it out. Hes an unstable player that got deep last season but will vanish into Up and Downs again.

Rain > Byun
Genius > Happy
Rain > Genius
Byun > Happy
Genius > Byun

Rain will actually be a Top contender for GSL this season.
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
September 06 2012 02:08 GMT
#17
mark my words, ByuN is gonna beat By.Sun 2-0. Just watch.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 02:28:55
September 06 2012 02:28 GMT
#18
On September 06 2012 10:59 RollingTheDice wrote:
Byun wont make it out. Hes an unstable player that got deep last season but will vanish into Up and Downs again.

Rain > Byun
Genius > Happy
Rain > Genius
Byun > Happy
Genius > Byun

Rain will actually be a Top contender for GSL this season.


You are far underestimating Byun he looked amazing last season.

Byun and Happy/Genius will advance, I don't see Rain winning, he could get 3rd in the group but he won't advance.
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YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
September 06 2012 02:30 GMT
#19
I mostly will say that KESPA players don't deserve to be playing in code S but Rain is the exception. He is by far the most talented Kespa SC2 player right now and could make it out of the group, it all matters about wether or not Genius plays like the freak protoss he is or the lazy protoss. We will have to see.

But I am going to go Byun Rain as well. I usually disagree on one of the picks from the writers but my gut says they are right this time.
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Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 06 2012 02:33 GMT
#20
you stole my predictions :p

I don't like any of these players so I have no one to root for :/
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Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
September 06 2012 02:51 GMT
#21
On September 06 2012 10:41 TheCupholder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.


Totally agree, I mean dominating DRG in one game is nothing, but if you could then turn that into a B03 win after that would be AMAZING!!!

... or not.

The Kespa players are for real, and Rain is one of the best they have to offer at the moment. Byun and Rain are surely the top picks for this group even though they are playing each other first up I think they would still get through.
mGGLearning
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Australia26 Posts
September 06 2012 02:57 GMT
#22
So glad to see MKP getting through over MC! XD
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
September 06 2012 03:48 GMT
#23
On September 06 2012 10:41 TheCupholder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.


BO1 or BO3 it's PvP so it's still anyone's game, and if you haven't been following Rain is one of the better KeSPA sc2 players. If you had said it was a joke because he put Rain over Happy I might give you the benefit of the doubt, but as it stands your comment is the joke here.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 06 2012 03:48 GMT
#24
GO SUN. :D
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
September 06 2012 03:52 GMT
#25
2 Terrans coming out of this group
Give us our snipe back - Ghost
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
September 06 2012 04:14 GMT
#26
On September 06 2012 10:41 TheCupholder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.


Genius is solid, sure. But...

1. It's PvP. Not only does the coin-flippy part come into play here, but also BW players are damn good at mirror match-ups (hey Effort)

2. He's not kidding when he's saying Rain is one of the best, if not the best, sc2 player on a kespa team. The Rain of SC2 is basically the Bisu of SC1 (in terms of competition between kespa teams). He's just smashing everyone. I wouldn't count out Rain for a second, as I honestly do think he is a Code s level player.

Predicting JD over Curious and MKP is another thing. That's just absurd (and maybe a sprinkling of "Fuck it, it's JD, let's vote for him"). This isn't.
hmm... let's think about it
LloydRays
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
September 06 2012 04:19 GMT
#27
Wax why are you editing your own stuff??

If you want, feel free to pm me if you want a random 3rd party to give an edit once in a while
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
September 06 2012 04:59 GMT
#28
I myself think it'll be ByuN and Genius but these predictions are certainly better than yesterday's
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KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
September 06 2012 05:20 GMT
#29
Happy and Genious pls
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 06 2012 05:23 GMT
#30
On September 06 2012 10:41 TheCupholder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.


Yeah, not like Rain 2-0ed Leenock and then beat Curious as well.
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antifan
Profile Joined August 2012
116 Posts
September 06 2012 05:42 GMT
#31
This is what I took from this recap. MC is a better player than MKP but some how messed up and lost. I guess it happens to the best of us.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 06 2012 05:43 GMT
#32
thinking byun/genius, hoping byun/genius
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 06 2012 08:20 GMT
#33
I'm still sad that JD didn't make it through, but ecstatic that Curious was so dominating!
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
September 06 2012 08:59 GMT
#34
Kindly put, he was one of the rank and file – albeit, towards the upper end.

Didn't Rain win rookie of the year in BW last year? He was a very strong BW player imo.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 06 2012 09:59 GMT
#35
FYI, Rain was rookie of the year and had only done 3 years of professional BW before the switch, surely to be one of the next big Protosses .. hardly just "rank and file" unless that just means anyone that's not TBLS
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Rarak
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia631 Posts
September 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#36
On September 06 2012 10:41 TheCupholder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.


Rain just beat Byun 2-0...
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 06 2012 10:22 GMT
#37
Rain can kill Byun hands down )
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Turboteckel
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands37 Posts
September 06 2012 10:58 GMT
#38
Predictions looking good so far.
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
September 06 2012 11:52 GMT
#39
Wow, I bet a lot of people (including me) was not expecting Happy to get out first =O. Well congrats to him =)
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 06 2012 11:56 GMT
#40
On September 06 2012 19:14 Rarak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:41 TheCupholder wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:30 Zenbrez wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

If these prediction are a joke to you, then the past month (results) must have been hilarious for you.



Its just that yesterday they predicted JD over MKP and Curios.... These kespa players are NOT code S.... People have to get real, maybe someday they will but not now, and especially not over a solid player like genius... Also don't bother quoting BO1 OSL, anyone can take a game off of anyone. I think we can all see that its not really a test of skill unless its at least a BO3.


Rain just beat Byun 2-0...



I didn't watch the games but I did just watch Happy take out Rain so i don't know what to think. Did Byun play bad?
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 06 2012 11:56 GMT
#41
Yes MKP! I really hope Rain and Byun go through.
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gplayer
Profile Joined March 2011
Romania106 Posts
September 06 2012 12:08 GMT
#42
Did not see Curious get 1st place, gg
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
September 06 2012 13:08 GMT
#43
Lol, this curse is crazy.

Looks like it very well could be Happy/Rain going through this time.
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testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
September 06 2012 13:59 GMT
#44
Pretty happy with the predictions. It means Genius and happy will get throu!

Just sucks they cursed MC, so he is out...
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
September 06 2012 14:09 GMT
#45
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

So. Anything you'd like to say?
Refer to my post.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
September 06 2012 16:26 GMT
#46
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke

LOL Think before you talk
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
September 06 2012 16:38 GMT
#47
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke


hahahah
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Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
September 06 2012 17:35 GMT
#48
On September 06 2012 10:19 TheCupholder wrote:
Are you serious ? lol, Rain over Genius.. These predictions are just becoming a joke


I lol'ed
dAijow
Profile Joined August 2012
7 Posts
September 07 2012 06:35 GMT
#49
Jaedong is not Code S tier. Just look at his macro, those injects... Master EU level; and his mutaplay was not impressive either, neither was his alleged "godlike" unit control. He lost those infestors and broodlords for nothing.

He needs a lot more time!
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