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Power Rank - MLG Summer Edition

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August 24th, 2012 05:52 GMT

Power Rank: MLG Summer Edition

By: NrGmonk, Ver, and Waxangel



Ah, it's that time of year again. The Power Rank is back with our MLG Summer Championship edition. This time, the cut-off line was thirty, more or less completely arbitrarily. There's not much need for an intro, so we'll put down the usual disclaimers and dive right in.

  • The Power Rank only takes players competing at MLG Summer Championship into account.
  • The official MLG player list was used as a reference - some players may cancel or be absent from the tournament.
  • The power rank is a compromise between the opinions of several writers, ensuring that not even the writers are happy with the end result.
  • TeamLiquid is not responsible for rage or rage related injuries suffered as a result of not reading the criteria beforehand.

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"Who would beat whom in a best of 101 series with their lives on the line?" That crossed our minds. So did "Who had the best tournament results in the past X months?" Those, and many other questions factored in as we attempted to figure out the contentious question: "who's better?" It was a complex process, which we're not even sure we completely understand ourselves. A few notes:

The Power Rank does not suggest that a higher ranked player is better than a lower ranked player in a head to head. Rankings are based on a player's overall package.

Also, the PR is not a ranking of everyone's chances to win the tournament, though we will mention that purely as a point of interest for some players. There's a lot of bracket luck involved, as well as a considerable advantage given to players who start in the group stage. Again, the Power Rank is just our all-around answer to the question "who's better?"



The Power Rank


Forgive the schizophrenia, each section was written by a different writer.

#30: kr (T)FnaticRC Rain

It's nearing two years since Rain reached his peak, placing second at GSL Open Season III. Though he has declined precipitously since then, there's something about cheesing your way to a GSL final that still scares us 19 months later.

#29: us (Z)EG.IdrA.RC

It's taken about two years, but IdrA has finally crossed the line from overrated to underrated. An absolutely dreadful first half 2012 gave his haters plenty of fuel, but his most recent results at HSC V (Ro16) and ASUS ROG Summer (Ro16) suggest that they should at least stop shoveling dirt on his grave. IdrA is 14 - 8 at those two tournaments, which is his best sustained stretch in a long time. That's not to say he's going to make any big waves at this MLG, but we can say the patient has stabilized, and is on his way to recovery.

#28: [image loading] (T)Empire|Beastyqt

Since joining the Razer house in the USA, Beastyqt seems to have improved drastically from a middle-of-the-pack European to one we should watch out for in tournaments. Though he's been a bit up and down, Beastyqt has put together some impressive stretches including an all kill over FXO.CIS and a TSL4 qualification run inside a couple of weeks.

But while qualifying for TSL is impressive, getting far in the prestigious tournament brings you more fame and hype. Unfortunately, it was not to be for Beastyqt, as he quickly fell to Sting in the very first round. Similarly, at the last MLG he attended, we were all hyped for the top foreigner to make a big splash, but he lost in the first few rounds yet again to both SaSe and Byul. Yes, all of these players were favored against him, but you have to actually win some big upsets to make your mark. Players like Illusion, Suppy, Scarlett, Vortix, and SortOf have all made to break into the scene. Beastyqt still does not possess that spark, although he is awfully close.

#27: us (T)Quantic.Illusion

All of the writers this time around were American, thus bound by blood to overrate Illusion until he finally gets that result that will allow us to say "we told you so!" Sorry, Europe.

#26: us (Z)Liquid`Sheth
#25: us (Z)EG.Suppy.RC

While they're still living in Idra's shadow, Suppy and Sheth have been quietly posting wins and helping make the American Zerg lineup a respectable international force, unlike their Protoss or Terran counterparts. With Zerg increasingly being the foreigner race of hope, any true American patriot will be cheering for this pair.

Sheth sports a highly aggressive ZvZ that routinely catches his opponents off guard with deception and tricky timings. His ling/bane micro is excellent and reliable. However, he still feels comfortable when he needs to play defensive and is happy holding off overaggression. Suppy, however, is more of a timing attack based player who excels in roach/hydra/infestor engagements and understands the lategame well.

While formerly his biggest weakness, Sheth has dramatically improved his creep spread ZvT over the summer. Suppy, on the other hand, has always excelled at creep spread. At live events his creep is superior than many big name players, even koreans. Other than creep, his most defining attribute is his patience and excellent handling of the lategame. Sheth is more of an all-around player and shows more of a discerning eye for weakness and is one of the best players in the world at backstabbing.

Without question, ZvP is the strong point for both players. Like in ZvT, Suppy plays a style where you have a good idea what he may do, but you still can't stop it anyway. At MLG Anaheim he proved completely resilient to the all-ins of players like Bling, Killer, and Tails. Sheth also understands the strength of the broodlord rush, but will occasionally mix things up with a more aggressive midgame.

Both of them made champ bracket at MLG Anaheim, while Sheth also qualified for Summer Arena and Suppy Asus ROG. Yet despite these achievements, these two still have yet to really break into the limelight. In this current era of foreigner Zerg dominance, now is the best chance for both to ascend to lasting glory.

#24: ca (P)EG.HuK.RC

Honestly, we could have placed HuK anywhere between #30 and #20, and it would have made sense. Most people are confused as to how good HuK is now, and we're among them. The last good series win he posted against a quality opponent was his dramatic 3 - 2 reverse sweep against Ganzi to qualify for the live NASL S3 grand finals, but after that he's been disappointing. In a very poor stretch of games, he was eliminated from NASL by Alicia, barely qualified for WCS NA, and was quickly eliminated from ASUS ROG Summer by Naama and Seiplo. HuK has been on a general downward trend since placing third at MLG in early 2012, but this most recent streak was a particularly sharp swing.

#23: kr (T)Quantic.Apocalypse
#22: kr (T)FXOasd

This is the least Korean MLG we've seen in a very long time. Inevitably, a Korean player 90% of the audience at MLG has never heard of will burn through the open brackets, incinerate foreigner hopes, and proceed to die to a better Korean in a Tie-8th finish. Of course, it will probably be a Korean Terran that does it, making us wonder if we're actually still living in 2011.

--------------------- The nl (P)Grubby (#21) Line ---------------------


While this is a welcome back tournament for a lot of players, it seems like an especially long time since we've seen Grubby. Yes, he competed in the last MLG Summer Arena, but other than that, we haven't heard much from the Ex-WC3 player. In the first half of the year, we heard Grubby's name everywhere. He attended every single tournament, both offline and online, playing so frequently that he became the subject of a running joke that he would lose to Stephano in every tournament. (This joke holds a lot of truth, btw) But since then, Grubby has made himself more scarce as a player, taking on a few more casting gigs, practicing quietly, and growing tulips or whatever Dutch people do. Last week, Grubby started his comeback tour at IEM Cologne, where he impressed by beating Koreans Oz and AcE to make it through the open bracket before being eliminated in the group stages.

We've kept his spot in the rankings warm for him. Once again, Grubby marks the line that separates "foreigners" from "Koreans."

Two thing to notice this time around. First, the line is much higher than previous renditions of the power ranking. This particular championship is not as stacked as some others, moving the Grubby Line from #29 to #21. Second, there are very few foreigners left above the line. Sure, you have a few players who spill over like Thorzain, asd, or the anomaly that is Stephano, but overall, it's fairly accurate. What does this say about the foreigners contingent at MLG Raleigh? That's for you to decide.

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#20: kr (Z)TSL_Revival

Revival is a TSL Zerg and this alone gives him some points. After all, when you think of TSL Zergs, you imagine a pretty tough bunch with players like Symbol, Shine, and Hyun. Revival does happen to blend in with the crowd, and we wouldn't blame you if you couldn't name any of his foreign tournament results (Tie-8th, IEM Guangzhou). The fact that he gets any GSTL playing time at all with those three Zergs on his team is a credit to his ability, but the fact that those opportunities don't come all that often gives you a decent idea about his current level.

#19: kr (P)coL.Killer

Imagine if Elfi had once been good enough to be in Code S. That's the kind of confusion Killer causes for us. Just when we thought we had the 2012 version of Killer pegged down as a solid Code A player, who couldn't really threaten the true title contenders, he went off on an absolutely insane run. Imagine what TaeJa did for Liquid at IPL TAC. Then imagine if Liquid had actually won in the end. That's what Killer did for Complexity in MCSL.

Killer's results in the months leading up to the MCSL playoffs were fairly unremarkable, so there's a possibility that the MCSL games were an incredible one-off, where he played the best games of his life. In fact, it's pretty much 99.99% assured he won't replicate that form at MLG. However, considering we've hyped up foreigners far more for doing far less, it's only fair that we give Killer an optimistic appraisal for the time being.

#18: se (T)EG.ThorZaIN.RC

You'd think that ThorZaIN's power rank position would have improved (down two from #16) after spending time training in with SlayerS in Korea. However, even though ThorZaIN did continue to build on his credentials by winning WCS Sweden, he just hasn't had any recent results that say he can touch any of the Koreans at Raleigh, except a 2 - 1 win over Gumiho back in June's Code S. Seeing as he couldn't make the ten man roster for any of SlayerS-EG's GSTL games, it works out all too conveniently to place him just behind his SlayerS-EG teammates.

#17: kr (P)EG.JYP.RC
#16: kr (T)EG.PuMa.RC

Puma has just been the opposite of being on fire lately. (He's on water?) While he was once the king of international tournaments, recent results have just been terrible to say the least. Puma still attends almost every international tournament that exists, but he's fallen to the level of an average foreigner. His recent loses over the last four tournaments include 0-3 to (P)NightEnD, 0-2 to (P)First, 0-2 to (P)Welmu, 0-3 to (P)MC, 1-2 to (Z)Cytoplasm, 0-2 to (P)Fraer, and 0-2 to (Z)Stephano. With results like these, one may question if it's Puma that's the problem or just his PvT, his once most exalted match-up.

On the other hand, the other EG Korean JYP, is on the upswing. While both players were eligible to play for SlayerS-EG in the GSTL, Puma was only chosen once with an end record of 0-1 while JYP was used 3 times to finish with a 5-2 record (even coming out as the team's ace). JYP also seems to have gotten over his PvT jinx, defeating Thorzain and Hack to secure himself a Code S spot next season. Two series wins in a row don't mean he's completely figured out PvT or even that his PvT is on the level of the average Korean Protoss, but it's a huge step up for a player who used to have a sub-25% win rate in the match-up.

Ranking purely based on results, you might say that JYP's recent performances outweigh however much prize money PuMa has won in the past. However, we're human, and we can't get the idea out of our heads that Puma is, was, and always should be better than his teammate. After all, JYP is still more known for failure at PvT than anything else (something he could rectify at MLG or the upcoming Code S), while Puma is most known for gaining superpowers when he's not on his native soil. So for now, we'll put PuMa ahead by a thin margin, until one of them decides to make a big move.

#15: kr (T)coL.GanZi

Who would have thought Heart would overtake Ganzi as Complexity's Terran ace when he joined the team? Somehow, Heart's high risk style has seen him rise above GanZi's steady text-book play. In GanZi's defense, he's been struggling with some health issues (some sort of shoulder pain or similar occupational ailment from what we can tell) and he's still put up steady, though not remarkable, results. A Tie-13th finish at Spring Championship and top 16 finish at Summer Arena further confirmed his position as a player who's always headed for a mid-table finish at worst. If his condition has improved back to where he was earlier this year, he'll probably move up the table, closer to his personal best 4th place finish.

#14: kr (T)coL.Heart

Above all else, Heart is known for his MLG performances. His first three MLG appearances resulted in 3rd, 3rd, and 5-6th places, although at the most recent MLG arena, he went an extremely disappointing 0-5(2-10) in his group stage. Heart probably didn't feel bad for long, however, because soon after MLG he directly qualified to Code S for the first time. Now, after a long hiatus, Heart returns to his old stomping grounds at MLG. If MLG gave him the confidence to succeed in GSL, maybe now his GSL success will help him get back on his feet in MLG. Playing a varied, unpredictable, aggressive style that's perfect for a tournament like MLG, Heart might yet again make a deep run.

#13: kr (T)Quantic.TheStC

TheStC's first few months with Quantic weren't all that great, but he quickly proved to be a worthy signing at ASUS ROG Summer. He channeled the spirit of the crippled PuMa, putting on a 'foreigners don't concern me' performance by destroying Kas, TiTaN, Seiplo, and Naama before suffering a narrow 2 - 3 defeat at the hands of fOrGG. Off that performance, Quantic should consider following EG's strategy for PuMa in 2011, and send TheStC to every possible tournament. He probably won't be able to match PuMa's haul in 2011, but you'd expect him to win at least a few trophies at the events with thinner player pools.

#12: kr (P)LG-IM_First

KeSPA pros have been scoring upset after upset in WCS Korea (to the degree where they're not always upsets anymore), but viewers of MLG Summer Arena will know that there was a harbinger to the stampede. The former KeSPA pro First came into the Arena as a mostly unknown, but he ended up making a serious impact. Tearing through TOP, PuMa, GanZi, and aLive and Losira, First earned himself a Tie-4th place finish in his international tournament debut. Not long after, he eliminated TaeJa from TSL4 by a 3 - 2 scoreline, further cementing his reputation as an elite PvT player.

While we have no reservations about First's PvT ability, it's hard to place him higher without seeing what he can do against the other races. With recent wins against Zenio, Ret, and Daisy, we get the feeling that First will end up doing pretty well against Zerg and Protoss in this tournament, but we'd rather wait until we see it live at MLG before pushing him up the rankings.

#11: kr (Z)LG-IM_LosirA

Halfway through a recovery after a long slump, Losira finds himself in a strange spot. He's redeemed himself for his poor form earlier this year, where he was dumped out of the GSL entirely and collected dust on the LG-IM bench during team leagues. Now he's popping up again at foreign tournaments, and playing an major role in LG-IM's team tournament efforts. However, when you look at a player who once stood on grand final stages and was hailed as the paragon of Zerg mechanics, you have to ask yourself 'is that it?' There hasn't been any more forward progress for Losira, as he bombed out of the Code A Ro48 last season, and an opportunity to impress at Spring Arena was squandered. If Losira is content to merely be relevant again, then #11 is too generous. But if he can show us any of the Losira that was once a championship contender, then there's much to look forward to.

#10: kr (T)SlayerS_Ryung

While Ryung has spent most of his career being overshadowed by his teammate MMA, their positions have been swapped in 2012. Ryung has taken on the mantle of SlayerS Ace, and though he hasn't lived up to MMA's lofty standards in 2011, he's acquitted himself fairly well. While he hasn't been able to string together enough good games in a row to achieve anything better than a mid-table finish in the GSL or other tournaments, his single game performances have been right up there with MMA's best. In games against DongRaeGu and Mvp, Ryung has made it look like he's the actual GSL champion for thirty minute stretches. However, Ryung can't reproduce that kind of play at will, which relegates him to the good-but-inconsistent category.

#9: kr (P)Liquid`HerO

It can be hard to escape reputations that stick to you early on. Every time TLO does something mildly unorthodox, it's because of his crazy creativity. Every time IdrA GG's out a little bit early, it's because he's weak mentally. And every time HerO loses in a big tournament, it's because he choked. Honestly, after the Dreamhack championship and the GSL semi-final run, we thought people would have gotten past that.

What if we just say that when HerO loses in tournaments, it's because his opponents were better? And the fact that he hasn't won a major tournament since DreamHack is because while he's good, he's not exactly MKP/DRG/MC good? As we saw at IPL Hot Imports, HerO can hang with GSL winning players for stretches, but just not long enough to win tournaments in 2012. Having received his first direct seed into group stage, this could be HerO's best chance yet to win MLG.

#8: kr (P)FnaticRC Oz

Oz, along with Losira, Leenock, and HerO represent four very talented but inconsistent Koreans coming to this event. Actually, no, Oz is in another class. He's THE most inconsistent player at this event. Let's look at his past MLG performances

MLG Anahiem: 29th, did not make it into bracket play after losing to Rain and wbc
MLG Providence: Did not make it into bracket play after losing to Leenock and Keen
MLG Winter Arena: 4th, after beating Idra, Demuslim, Leenock, and vioLet
MLG Winter Championship: 17th-20th, lost to Polt after an average run
MLG Spring Arena 2: Dead last, after losing 0-2 to both Grubby and Alicia
MLG Spring Championship: 10th place, lost to Polt again after another average run
MLG Summer Arena: 3rd/4th place after defeating vioLet and Stephano twice

Yes, Oz figured something out against Stephano last MLG. Make sure to read more about that here. But this in no way is an indicator of how well he'll do in this tournament. As an arbitrary power rank number, eight seemed just about right.

#7: kr (Z)FXOLeenock

Leenock hit a big bump on his road to recovery in WCS Korea, getting flattened by SAMSUNG_Roro and SKT_Rain in an early exit from the tournament. The KeSPA players were certainly better than most gave them credit for at the start, but watching recent Proleague games or matches between KeSPA players in the WCS make us scratch our head as to how the KeSPA players pulled off a 10+ game winning stream against the GSL pros. Nervousness is what everyone is using as a convenient excuse, and in Leenock's case, we're willing to buy it. That's just how much respect we have for Leenock's talent, and what he could yet become.

Back in 2011, one of the most underrated stories of the GSL was the rise of Leenock. Almost every single season, Leenock would place a little bit higher, inching his way out of Code A and into Code S, and up the Code S ladder into the finals. He went from being a more-than-meets-the-eye all-in player to an all-around monster who looked like the best Zerg in the world at one point. 2012 brought a lot of disappointment, and oddly enough, even the queen-patch midway through the year failed to give Leenock big boost. However, by July, he finally started to make what looked like a recovery, re-qualifying for Code S while pulling his team to the GSTL finals.

Leenock disappointed at his last MLG, but he's looked like a different player since then. WCS was an unfortunate hiccup, but we don't think it will kill his momentum going into this tournament.

#6: kr (P)SlayerS_Alicia

If you hadn't heard, Alicia pulled off the amazing feat of playing second place in three consecutive tournaments (MLG Spring Championship, NASL S3, MLG Summer Arena) within the span of 6 weeks. Even Yellow, the legendary silver-surfer of the Brood War scene, would be jealous of that achievement.

Behind TaeJa's double wins at ASUS ROG and MLG Summer Arena, this makes Alicia the second hottest player coming into Raleigh. Sadly enough, we couldn't find a way to force the new inheritor of the Kong Line into the #2 spot. The way he got DESTROYED in all three finals, and the way his brackets worked out to include several PvPs and matches against foreigners made us second-guess his statistically improbable achievement. It's like that time Heart got third place in consecutive MLGs, but we still had to ask ourselves "well if he's so good, what's he doing in Code A?", except Alicia isn't even in Code A. At the same time, there's a certain Elfi/Killer mystique to Alicia that makes us fear putting him any lower. Some guys just know how to win, for the lack of a better way to put it. Or in Alicia's case, know how to almost win.

#5: kr (T)FnaticRC aLive

One year ago in Raleigh, we saw Bomber receive the MLG treatment and rise as a superstar. Maybe this time around, we'll see the same happen to another stoic Terran.

Despite being a great player, aLive is so unnoticeable that he can't even get his own nickname. Instead, Korean fans have resorted to calling him the "Invisible Terran," a nickname originally belonging to the similarly skilled yet featureless KeSPA pro, Light.

We can vouch that aLive is quite the entertaining guy in person, but he doesn't seem to have any interest in making that known to the public. On top of that, he had the 'misfortune' of winning IPL4, the major tournament with the least hyped finals since the 2011 IEM World Championship (don't lie, we know you had to Liquipedia the winner). Even so, it's mind boggling how a guy who made the GSL semis and won IPL4 by defeating Ganzi, PartinG, Polt, MKP, Nestea, and Squirtle can't get any more credit. aLive is weaker than his IPL4 run as the queen patch hit his TvZ particularly hard, but if he can get the right match-ups, the championship is within his grasp.

#4: kr (Z)AZUBU.viOLet

With KeSPA executing a double pull-out from GSL and MLG, something just feels right about the fact that the two top Zergs in this tournament come from environments that could not be more different from the regimented team house system of KeSPA teams. viOLet, in particular, is a player who makes you feel alright even if KeSPA players won't be playing in the GSL or international tournaments any time soon.

If a Korean can leave a team in his own country for a less fettered life in America, and actually get (much) better in the process, then it says that maybe we don't need KeSPA and their decades of Brood War experience to produce excellent players. Who knows what the picture will be a year down the line, perhaps KeSPA will prove their way was the best after all. But for now, it's good to know we aren't missing out on anything. Hopefully, more players like viOLet emerge in the scene, showing us that as long as there's talent and determination, champions can grow anywhere,

#3: fr (Z)Still MǂStephano

Sitting at number three, not-yet-EG.Stephano is the closest to the top of the rankings as a foreigner has ever been since we started our power rankings (the previous high was #6, achieved by... Stephano). Not only is Stephano THE most consistent top foreigner, but he's one of the most consistent players bar none. While players like Leenock and Oz both have the potential to win tournaments, they also have the potential to flop out in the first few rounds. Stephano, on the other hand, always seems to place in the top eight, no matter what his competition is like. This characteristic mirrors that of GSL finalists such as MKP, DRG, and MC, two of whom are not attending this tournament, and one of whom is "slumping".

A lot has changed about Stephano's surroundings since he last competed in major tournament at MLG Summer Arena over a month ago. Since then, he's been shrouded in Korea while he trained with TSL and his best buddy, Polt, and now it seems all but certain that he'll be wearing an Evil Geniuses shirt come September. However, Stephano's contract with Millenium does not end for another week, so the French-based team will still be able to lay claim to Stephano's results this weekend. You could say that the TSL trip was Millenium's parting gift to Stephano, and it will be interesting to see if Stephano can repay it in kind by giving his team of two years a final title. (This also means that all you haters out there will not be able to claim an EG curse if Stephano happens to falter and only places in the 4th-8th range.)

#2: kr (T)MarineKingPrime

More than any other player in the world, MKP seems to have been devastated by the queen and overlord patch. While he seemed unstoppable in the first few months of this year, since the patch hit, MKP has been just average. While he previously provided us with epic MLG finals versus DRG, in the last MLG, which was played directly after the patch, MKP's matches versus his rival were extremely one-sided in favor of the Zerg. Since then, he's suffered huge loses to (Z)Moon and (Z)CoCa in the GSTL, (Z)Symbol in GSL, and (Z)CoCa again in IPL Fight Club. There's definitely a trend going on here.

Because he has failed to qualify for WCS, after losing to abysmal (Z)horror, we haven't seen much from him lately at all. MLG will be the first major tournament where MKP shows his face after a long break, so his current shape is rather questionable.

As we considered the final rankings, one of the toughest placements was Stephano or MKP at #2. Stephano's current streak of results certainly gives him a strong case to be #2 over a player who has been lying low over the same period. However, in the end we decided that MKP deserves this spot, because even though he might not have been at the top of his game for a month or two now, we have no reason to believe he hasn't figured it all out during his hiatus. At the end of the day, you're looking at a player who was the best Terran for half of 2012, is one of the most consistent players in all of SC2, and maybe the most successful MLG Starcraft player of all time. For this, we believe in Harv MarineKingPrime.

#1: kr (T)Liquid`TaeJa

Is it really a surprise that TaeJa is perched on top of these rankings? After getting tired of all the online tournaments in Korea, TaeJa moved on to richer pastures to win the last MLG Arena and ASUS ROG Summer 2012, after which he almost single-handedly took out the entire team of IM twice. There is very little doubt that TaeJa currently holds a very strong claim to being the best player in the world. Only his loss to Seed in IPL TAC, his early exit from TSL4, and Mvp's not-so-subtle reminder at IEM Cologne block TaeJa from unequivocally holding that position.

A fellow writer once called Taeja unquestionably solid. I have to respectfully disagree. TaeJa has no real weak match-ups nor a particular weakness to any style. He's unpredictable and can execute any of the myriad of strategies available to him at the absolute highest level. But in my humble opinion, TaeJa makes too many unforced errors to to truly be called "solid". From running all his marines into a siege line, to losing 20+ scvs to either a single zealot or dt, to forgetting key upgrades, Taeja worst enemy is often himself

So if Taeja often makes these grievous mistakes, how does he end up with his insane win rates and tournament wins?
That's easy; he is just simply better than everyone else. With unparalleled micro, control and mechanics, in addition to a unique approach to the game, TaeJa stands tall above everyone else and often times, even with these otherwise blunderous game-ending mistakes, TaeJa can still eke out a win against anyone. I'd say that being better than everyone else in the tournament is deserving of the #1 spot.


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dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
August 24 2012 05:56 GMT
#2
Great write up Taeja, Stephano, Thorzain Fighting!!!!
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kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
August 24 2012 06:03 GMT
#3
oop!
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United States2 Posts
August 24 2012 06:04 GMT
#4
south african gold
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United States1518 Posts
August 24 2012 06:05 GMT
#5
I am a true american patriot i suppose
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yungSC2
Profile Joined August 2012
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 06:08:24
August 24 2012 06:06 GMT
#6
viOlet is prolly too high here, I would also say aLive and Leenock are a bit too high.

Oz should be higher, PuMa should be higher as well. Maybe even HerO by one spot or smth...
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 24 2012 06:08 GMT
#7
Revival is winning this tournament. Quote me.
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Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
August 24 2012 06:10 GMT
#8
I would really like to see HuK make a resurgence here

nice writeup ^^
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 24 2012 06:11 GMT
#9
Taeja fighting!!!!! Wrap it up boyo!
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Archile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States403 Posts
August 24 2012 06:13 GMT
#10
On August 24 2012 15:08 Fionn wrote:
Revival is winning this tournament. Quote me.

agreed.
Just a bad player trying to be a little less bad
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
August 24 2012 06:17 GMT
#11
Please god,
Don't let Alicia ruin another finals.

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Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
August 24 2012 06:17 GMT
#12
Hm, taeja at number, im suprised there was more negative talk about him in his write up than positive
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mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
August 24 2012 06:28 GMT
#13
Nice. Yeah, I gotta say, Taeja is a crazy player to watch in part because he always seems to work himself into really bad situations and then somehow, insanely, just barely eke his way out of them. At the IPLTAC3 finals, I don't think he played even one game where he survived a potentially-game-ending engagement to go long and slowly get ahead.

It's possible he doesn't win this MLG, but I couldn't rank anyone else at #1.
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
August 24 2012 06:29 GMT
#14
aLive FIGHTING!!
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Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
August 24 2012 06:30 GMT
#15
Im eagerly anticipating this tournament.

I liked the write up, very thorough. Stephano is so close to the top now!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 06:33:34
August 24 2012 06:32 GMT
#16
On August 24 2012 15:06 yungSC2 wrote:
viOlet is prolly too high here, I would also say aLive and Leenock are a bit too high.

Oz should be higher, PuMa should be higher as well. Maybe even HerO by one spot or smth...



Puma's been losing left and right and hasn't produced any real tournament wins since his 2nd place @ iem vs MC. Violets really good and deserves a high placing one of the best zergs in my opinion(and that definitely stands true with his results), and again Oz is very inconsistent like what was said in the write up.
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TheLetterQ
Profile Joined August 2011
United States65 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 06:40:20
August 24 2012 06:37 GMT
#17
I get the taeja hype, but there has been like six "best players in the world" since mvp lost the throne. I think we need to get over the obsession with naming the best player in the world, because its usually pretty ambiguous. In fact, i think the only players who have ever had a really strong claim to being the best at a certain time have been mvp and nestea.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 24 2012 06:37 GMT
#18
Can't wait to see Marineking back in action but it'll be tough to win it from the open bracket. Good luck to the terrans! hopefully they can win this mlg!
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Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
August 24 2012 06:38 GMT
#19
Nice writeup I really liked the Taeja one
Cink
Profile Joined April 2010
United States93 Posts
August 24 2012 06:47 GMT
#20
Great write-up. but I can't agree with the MKP ranking. I get that you want to give him the benefit of the doubt because, well frankly he's fucking MKP, but he has been "slumping" and hasn't really shown his face enough recently to deserve the #2 spot in my opinion. Granted he should be given a top 10 spot for sure, possibly even top 5, but a #2 ranking is a bit overrating a guy we haven't seen much of recently.
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cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
August 24 2012 06:49 GMT
#21
Alicia gonna break through for a win! Believe!
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Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
August 24 2012 06:51 GMT
#22
Hope to see them Liquid boys do well, especially since HerO forfeited out of WCS... And would love to see a high placement by Huk!
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
August 24 2012 06:55 GMT
#23
You guys must be smoking some heavy shit, TT1 is gonna take the entire thing obviously.
Ricemagical
Profile Joined November 2010
270 Posts
August 24 2012 06:59 GMT
#24
Haha loved the "We believe in harvey dent" reference
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 24 2012 07:01 GMT
#25
Great read!
GhostLink
Profile Joined January 2011
United States450 Posts
August 24 2012 07:09 GMT
#26
For this, we believe in Harv MarineKingPrime.


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HonorZ
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France858 Posts
August 24 2012 07:09 GMT
#27
On August 24 2012 15:08 Fionn wrote:
Revival is winning this tournament. Quote me.


I disagree :p Stephano is winning !
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fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
August 24 2012 07:09 GMT
#28
lol alicia always getting stomped in the finals
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
August 24 2012 07:14 GMT
#29
I'm glad that the Grubby line moved up. I'm hoping for huge success from the EG players, mostly JYP though. I wouldn't mind a SlayerS member winning this tournament. viOLet winning wouldn't be too bad either. Nor would a Stephano, MKP, or TaeJa win.

Damn, I have too many favorites that you can't really consider them favorite anymore...

I'm also sad that MC and DRG can't come.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 24 2012 07:22 GMT
#30
SangHo wasn't pegged as a Code A player for 2012, he was much worse than that at the start of the year and his games were even difficult to watch. I thought he was about to disappear forever.

Now he is a beast and I still love him.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 24 2012 07:26 GMT
#31
fellow writer once called Taeja unquestionably solid. I have to respectfully disagree. TaeJa has no real weak match-ups nor a particular weakness to any style. He's unpredictable and can execute any of the myriad of strategies available to him at the absolute highest level. But in my humble opinion, TaeJa makes too many unforced errors to to truly be called "solid". From running all his marines into a siege line, to losing 20+ scvs to either a single zealot or dt, to forgetting key upgrades, Taeja worst enemy is often himself

Nice to hear my own thoughts I've referenced that hero zealot in the teamleague semifinal against Squirtle (right? I'm not fact checking it I think that's right) before and I'm very fond of saying the truly impressive thing about Taeja is he manages to take a lead over his opponents while supply blocked half the game :D
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Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
August 24 2012 07:39 GMT
#32
Man I love reading these articles! TL ftw <3
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
August 24 2012 07:46 GMT
#33
However, Stephano's contract with Millenium does not end for another week, so the French-based team will still be able to lay claim to Stephano's results this weekend.


If Stephano will win it EG will claim the result like it did before...
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 24 2012 07:48 GMT
#34
On August 24 2012 15:08 Fionn wrote:
Revival is winning this tournament. Quote me.

I'll quote this every time I can once he'll have lost in the first round :D
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
August 24 2012 07:52 GMT
#35
On August 24 2012 14:52 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
#27: us (T)Quantic.Illusion

All of the writers this time around were American, thus bound by blood to overrate Illusion until he finally gets that result that will allow us to say "we told you so!" Sorry, Europe.

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sickthink
Profile Joined December 2011
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:08:28
August 24 2012 08:06 GMT
#36
Funny you think, TSL_Revival is gonna win, he's probably the most solid-playing of all the zergs listed above, but I just have to wonder if at this MLG toss is gonna spiritbomb everyone like they did in the WCSKorea and the last code S season. Zergs are havin a tough time with toss which makes me worry for viOLet and Revival. I'm predicting MKP 6th place, First, Oz, HerO, and Alicia to get 5-2 place and Liquid "upgrades are OP" Taeja for 1st!
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Wanan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States14 Posts
August 24 2012 08:07 GMT
#37
Hmm.. viOLet in the states with his fans cheering him on. How does he not win this MLG?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 24 2012 08:10 GMT
#38
I just realize how poor the tournament is in term of high level koreans.
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herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2053 Posts
August 24 2012 08:10 GMT
#39
Can anyone explain the "For this, we believe in Harv MarineKingPrime" joke?
Cool G
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia11 Posts
August 24 2012 08:11 GMT
#40
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
August 24 2012 08:15 GMT
#41
On August 24 2012 17:07 Wanan wrote:
Hmm.. viOLet in the states with his fans cheering him on. How does he not win this MLG?


cuz taeja, that's why
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Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
August 24 2012 08:17 GMT
#42
On August 24 2012 17:10 herMan wrote:
Can anyone explain the "For this, we believe in Harv MarineKingPrime" joke?


I think it's "We believe in Harvey Dent" from the Dark Knight.
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Wayne123
Profile Joined July 2011
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:18:34
August 24 2012 08:18 GMT
#43
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.
LeviathanDK
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark87 Posts
August 24 2012 08:35 GMT
#44
Taeja best player in the world??? LOL teamliquid bias

the best is either MVP or Seed these days, i will however put Taeja at nr 3
eNbee
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium487 Posts
August 24 2012 08:36 GMT
#45
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.



You'll have to excuse him, odds are he's regurgitating Idra's statements, who seems to have something against MKP.
hmmmm
Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
August 24 2012 08:41 GMT
#46
It's time for Revenge of the Terrans!

TvT finals, I'm calling it, right here, right now!

But, seriously, even though not all top tier player are participating, this write up still tells there are a lot of good players out there. It's going to be epic :D
[Terran] mvp | maru | innovation | mma [Protoss] mc | squirtle [Zerg] nestea | soo
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 24 2012 08:41 GMT
#47
This Power Rank is brought to you by the word "stretch"!

Good rankings, although I'd place HuK a few notches up, above sheth and suppy.
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8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 24 2012 08:41 GMT
#48
WOOOO SUPPY
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Cool G
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia11 Posts
August 24 2012 08:46 GMT
#49
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.


I don't see how listing Marineking's entire career of achievements is relevant to his current form.

It's amusing you give him credit for Prime's victory in GSTL when it was quite clear PartinG was robbed in the final.
seenster
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany385 Posts
August 24 2012 09:07 GMT
#50
Go Grubbster!
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
August 24 2012 09:08 GMT
#51
you should move the grubby line, much more... wait and see....
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:11:53
August 24 2012 09:11 GMT
#52
MKP going to put overrated taeja in his place this MLG. MKP let taeja play in the sandbox for a while, while he laid dormant these past 2 months, but it's time for the true terran king to return and cast aside the false king known as taeja.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 24 2012 09:18 GMT
#53
Putting JYP so high is a disgrace to many players. Since joining EG (and even before), JYP has never impressed me, 3rd place a HSC being his only high place finish in a low pool of koreans. Like it or not his PvT is still very weak and his other 2 matchups are not as impressive as before.
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XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 24 2012 09:20 GMT
#54
MKP, if he gets far, will show off new builds. I guarantee it. Maybe even if he flounders, it will be in a new way. I expect he has been working on such during his 'break'.
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Ingebrigtsen
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Norway343 Posts
August 24 2012 09:20 GMT
#55
would've liked to see crank over a few of these players, but since you take in tournament placings I understand (he's not really attending much is he?)
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
August 24 2012 09:22 GMT
#56
putting MKP above stephano? Nah. Right now I think MKP deserves like a #9 or something. he hasn't been doing that well
vBr
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:24:10
August 24 2012 09:24 GMT
#57
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onewaystyx
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland46 Posts
August 24 2012 09:33 GMT
#58
Great write up although i dont agree with a couple of your rankings. But i will have to say one thing: Youre hyping stephano too much. He only has to show for his good pvz and people are figuring that out as well. Losing to mana and other foreigners as well as koreans. I think that number 3 on a mlg power rank isnt deserved at all.
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Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
August 24 2012 09:39 GMT
#59
lol not surprised to see the liquid writeup put liquidtaeja at #1... Even though in both of his tournament wins, he didn't beat any "big names" except for MC. Team leagues don't mean much. Look at where symbol, moon and life are. They're winning every GSL aren't they.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:44:58
August 24 2012 09:41 GMT
#60
On August 24 2012 18:20 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
would've liked to see crank over a few of these players, but since you take in tournament placings I understand (he's not really attending much is he?)

We didn't see Crank in the list of players attending. I would have personally put him about 16th if he is indeed attending. Similarly, we weren't sure who the IceCream that signed up was; he might have made top 30.

Btw, I like how some people are arguing Stephano should be higher while others way lower. ^^

Also, Taeja at #1 isn't biased at all. I don't even understand how people can argue that with the players attending MLG. Maybe if MVP and Seed were attending....
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Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
August 24 2012 09:41 GMT
#61
LOL these lists are so funny every time.
Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
August 24 2012 09:46 GMT
#62
On August 24 2012 17:46 Cool G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.


I don't see how listing Marineking's entire career of achievements is relevant to his current form.

It's amusing you give him credit for Prime's victory in GSTL when it was quite clear PartinG was robbed in the final.


Yea... No. It was a disconnect then a regame. Sorta like how the taeja vs nestea game. Gotta love the fanboys with double standards.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 24 2012 09:52 GMT
#63
On August 24 2012 17:36 eNbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.



You'll have to excuse him, odds are he's regurgitating Idra's statements, who seems to have something against MKP.

haha well done
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
August 24 2012 09:57 GMT
#64
Excited to see HerO in this.. And Taeja.. Man oh man, I wouldn't mind a huge liquid tournament! :D
Liquid
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 24 2012 09:58 GMT
#65
"So if Taeja often makes these grievous mistakes, how does he end up with his insane win rates and tournament wins?
That's easy; he is just simply better than everyone else. With unparalleled micro, control and mechanics, in addition to a unique approach to the game, TaeJa stands tall above everyone else and often times, even with these otherwise blunderous game-ending mistakes, TaeJa can still eke out a win against anyone. I'd say that being better than everyone else in the tournament is deserving of the #1 spot."
This is a very bold and arrogant statement, saying that he is better than everyone and that he has the best mechanics and so on. Mvp and Seed are most likely better players than Taeja right now but it's a shame they are not at MLG to prove that.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33298 Posts
August 24 2012 09:59 GMT
#66
Dance, dance my puppets
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 24 2012 10:03 GMT
#67
Kick some butt Taeja!
Rossen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark177 Posts
August 24 2012 10:23 GMT
#68
For once, I agreed with the rankings, great job! :D. I really enjoyed the extra stats on Oz.
Off-topic, Ver plzzz make God of the Battlefield part 2 ? :D. Nr.1 was best write-up TL has ever seen! ♥
NanowaX
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany190 Posts
August 24 2012 10:29 GMT
#69
On August 24 2012 17:46 Cool G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.


I don't see how listing Marineking's entire career of achievements is relevant to his current form.

It's amusing you give him credit for Prime's victory in GSTL when it was quite clear PartinG was robbed in the final.


"cool g" (haha) your posts are ridiculously dumb
SlayerS MMA GOAT | Maru, MKP, MVP, Byun
Mclvor
Profile Joined February 2011
Italy15 Posts
August 24 2012 10:29 GMT
#70
where is MC?
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
August 24 2012 10:33 GMT
#71
No open bracket watch? Anyway, I love these writeups :3
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
August 24 2012 10:37 GMT
#72
On August 24 2012 18:41 NrGmonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:20 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
would've liked to see crank over a few of these players, but since you take in tournament placings I understand (he's not really attending much is he?)

We didn't see Crank in the list of players attending. I would have personally put him about 16th if he is indeed attending. Similarly, we weren't sure who the IceCream that signed up was; he might have made top 30.

Btw, I like how some people are arguing Stephano should be higher while others way lower. ^^

Also, Taeja at #1 isn't biased at all. I don't even understand how people can argue that with the players attending MLG. Maybe if MVP and Seed were attending....


He is attending yep. TotalBiscuit sonspors him.
Wayne123
Profile Joined July 2011
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 11:01:01
August 24 2012 10:58 GMT
#73
On August 24 2012 17:46 Cool G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.


I don't see how listing Marineking's entire career of achievements is relevant to his current form.

It's amusing you give him credit for Prime's victory in GSTL when it was quite clear PartinG was robbed in the final.


Being overrated means that someone isn´t as good as people think. Going by that definition, he can´t be overrated by any means because he has so many tournament wins and he won so much money.

A player can be overrated if people say he´s very good but he has no archievements under his belt. That´s what being overrated means. Someone who has proven himself many times has gotten out of the "zone" where you can call him overrated because he backed up his skill with a lot of sucess.

If you call MKP overrated, you can call MC, DRG and MVP overrated as well. And that is obviously, just plain wrong.

But it seems that Startale is your favourite team, that would explain why you choose to make such, to my mind, ridiculous and false, statements.
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
August 24 2012 11:02 GMT
#74
Stephano > MKP without a shadow of a doubt.

Other than that, the only thing I resent about this ranking is calling Stephano "an anomaly", whereas he should be considered the mark of where the foreign participants can get. Are ViOlet, Ganzi, STC, or Heart strictly better than their foreign competitors? No they are not. They represent the level of player that the foreign competitive core is at right now (SortOf, Nerchio, MaNa and so on), there is no need to embellish their superiority to foreign players when in tournaments that are not heavily Korean favoured (MLG, GSL, OSL-as-it-will-be), they are no better than their counterparts.

My apologies, but I feel like everytime Liquid does a "power rank" in preparation for MLG, they brush all the facts under the carpet and just default to trumpeting Korean domination.

End rant.

Now, yeah, ok, this is a tournament with only 3 significant foreign players in attendance, so I guess I can forgive you. But if you were even a tad more objective, the Grubby line would be much higher and ThorZain would be ahead of the EG/coL Koreans.

(Top 16 for both Mr Grubby and Mr ThorZain.. but if ThorZain flops yet again due to EG curse, top 10 for Grubby)

You will see.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 24 2012 11:06 GMT
#75
I laughed about the whatever dutch people do joke :')

generally agree with the ranking; a lot of players are too unknown to me, unfortunately.
Didn't get the mkp joke (harv? i did google..)
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
August 24 2012 11:08 GMT
#76
On August 24 2012 20:06 Yorbon wrote:
I laughed about the whatever dutch people do joke :')

generally agree with the ranking; a lot of players are too unknown to me, unfortunately.
Didn't get the mkp joke (harv? i did google..)


Harvey Dent.
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 11:16:59
August 24 2012 11:12 GMT
#77
Oh yeah, before I forget:

BY ALL THAT IS GOOD, TRUTHFUL, BEAUTIFUL AND HOLY,
BLEED THE KOREAN DOGS THE REPAYMENT OF THE SUMMER ARENA HUMILIATION,
BRING THEM DOWN IN THE NAME OF THE LIGHT OF LIGHTS.

Cough.

Uh, hmm, uh, well, now, back to collecting some ladder points.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 24 2012 11:28 GMT
#78
I predict GoOdy to finish higher than at least three of the americans, who are in here. But I agree with the top-20, nice write-up in general.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 24 2012 11:44 GMT
#79
i find it odd that so many seeded to the groups arent featured in the top 30 players. are TL trying to imply that MLGs random seeding system isnt the best? how outlandish.
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
August 24 2012 11:48 GMT
#80
First i read that IdrA was at #29, then i deiced to look at the players who are attending so that i could decide if the writer is a IdrA fanboy or if the turnout to this event really is bad enough for idra to be top 30.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
etofok
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
138 Posts
August 24 2012 11:56 GMT
#81
I'd give MKP and TaeJa 1st place both and no 2nd.
The king, the priest, the rich man—who lives and who dies? Who will the swordsman obey?
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
August 24 2012 12:14 GMT
#82
Go go Foxer, 3rd MLG Title
Seph02
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands221 Posts
August 24 2012 12:16 GMT
#83
Go Grubby, show em why you should actually be in the top 20 !!! Will be following and supporting you !!!

Grubby fighting !!!!
Starcraft is for life
raser
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 12:20:35
August 24 2012 12:19 GMT
#84
Go grubby!
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
August 24 2012 13:06 GMT
#85
I think power ranking is my favorite thing about these tournaments (bar an excellent finals). Good write up.

Go Oz, viOLet, and Ganzi. Let's seem some upsets ^^
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 24 2012 13:16 GMT
#86
It's cute that you squeezed idra onto the list, but Daisy, Goody, Rain, Axslav, Crank, and Icecream all better than him ^
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
August 24 2012 13:20 GMT
#87
Go Grubby!!! And we plant something competly else then tullips :p
i came i saw i conquered
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 24 2012 13:31 GMT
#88
idk y, but i just feel like taeja's huge run is coming to an end. No way to keep this success for so long(unless you are mvp)
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 24 2012 13:35 GMT
#89
hah, mkp haters gonna be SMASHED into the ground this weekend when MKP owns face hard this tournament.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
August 24 2012 13:36 GMT
#90
Every MLG is just a show about who's gonna stop the unstoppable tyrant MKP.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
August 24 2012 13:39 GMT
#91
Great article! I'm always impressed with the quality of the featured articles on TL.net, and the amount of work they represent.

I'd love to see IdrA play well enough to justify putting him in the top 10 again. :\
Behavior is a function of its consequences.
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
August 24 2012 13:48 GMT
#92
On August 24 2012 15:08 Fionn wrote:
Revival is winning this tournament. Quote me.

I seriously agree. All this pvt talk, he is gone slide right in.
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
August 24 2012 14:08 GMT
#93
Go Liquid! TaeJa, HerO, Sheth et al. hwaiting!

The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
KoBlades
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria248 Posts
August 24 2012 14:27 GMT
#94
I still ask myself who all these players are that got seeded into the "groups". I mean who are Caliber or Sasquatch?
"What do you know about fear?" -"Everything."
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
August 24 2012 14:43 GMT
#95
Very well written. I truly appreciate these. Thank you : )
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 24 2012 14:59 GMT
#96
This MLG really snuck up on me. I haven't even really thought of who to cheer for. Stephano sounds good though.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 24 2012 15:24 GMT
#97
On August 24 2012 23:27 KoBlades wrote:
I still ask myself who all these players are that got seeded into the "groups". I mean who are Caliber or Sasquatch?


They placed fairly high at the Arena. Not high enough for a spot, but I believe the 8 invites reserved for KeSPA that didn't pan out were given to the next highest placing people at the Arena.
Ritchie
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada206 Posts
August 24 2012 15:30 GMT
#98
It would be absolutely amazing for this tournament to help us figure out whether MKP or Taeja is the best Terran in the world right now.

+ Show Spoiler +

I know there's still MVP out there but let's ignore that just for this tournament
After all, we just want to be happy, don't we?
Risljaninasim
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands228 Posts
August 24 2012 15:41 GMT
#99
I'm calling it: Stephano 1st and Grubby 2nd! xD
;;
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
August 24 2012 15:41 GMT
#100
You should start an overall power rank for SC2 like the bw one!!! Start it!!
MarineKing / Jaedong / DeMusliM / SeleCT / Maru hwaiting!
thekoven
Profile Joined July 2010
United States128 Posts
August 24 2012 15:46 GMT
#101
violet
twitch.tv/thekoven
Cool G
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia11 Posts
August 24 2012 15:47 GMT
#102
On August 24 2012 19:58 Wayne123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:46 Cool G wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.


I don't see how listing Marineking's entire career of achievements is relevant to his current form.

It's amusing you give him credit for Prime's victory in GSTL when it was quite clear PartinG was robbed in the final.


Being overrated means that someone isn´t as good as people think. Going by that definition, he can´t be overrated by any means because he has so many tournament wins and he won so much money.

A player can be overrated if people say he´s very good but he has no archievements under his belt. That´s what being overrated means. Someone who has proven himself many times has gotten out of the "zone" where you can call him overrated because he backed up his skill with a lot of sucess.

If you call MKP overrated, you can call MC, DRG and MVP overrated as well. And that is obviously, just plain wrong.

But it seems that Startale is your favourite team, that would explain why you choose to make such, to my mind, ridiculous and false, statements.


This is singularly the stupidest thing I have ever read, I'd heard this site held a reasonable standard of discussion but you just evidenced the contrary.

Enjoy the rest of your life.


User was temp banned for this post.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 24 2012 15:50 GMT
#103
I'm hoping for a victory of Stephano and an awesome run by GoOdy.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
August 24 2012 15:53 GMT
#104
hoping goody ruins all liquibets as always!
#1 FAN OF TERRY THE INTERN - NONY AND IDRA NUMBER #1, EVERY DAY. AXIOM MANOR - Axiom: Ryung, Alicia, Heart and Crank under the Don TotalBiscuit and the Donnesa Genna Bain- Join the family http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=396090#2
1handsomE
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States199 Posts
August 24 2012 15:55 GMT
#105

On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
I'd heard this site held a reasonable standard of discussion but you just evidenced the contrary.


I literally laughed out loud at this trolling. 10/10
MarineKing / Jaedong / DeMusliM / SeleCT / Maru hwaiting!
kuriz
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark141 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 16:12:00
August 24 2012 16:00 GMT
#106
Really good ranking! But I don't understand why MC is not in there?
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 24 2012 16:10 GMT
#107
Looking at the recent results, I feel like the protoss players will place better in the tournament than in the write-up. I know that alot of the top protosses right now (MC, Creator, Seed, Squirtle, Parting) aren't going to be at MLG, but the second tier protosses should still place much better than in the power ranks.
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 16:18:47
August 24 2012 16:18 GMT
#108
On August 25 2012 00:30 Ritchie wrote:
It would be absolutely amazing for this tournament to help us figure out whether MKP or Taeja is the best Terran in the world right now.

+ Show Spoiler +

I know there's still MVP out there but let's ignore that just for this tournament

How come people always seems to forget Byun when it comes to the best terrans? Fuck, I'd say Byun > MKP.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
August 24 2012 16:24 GMT
#109
i love power rankings and i love MLG. it's gonna be a great weekend.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
August 24 2012 16:34 GMT
#110
Could you edit the power rank and make a "honorable mentions" / "those who just missed the cut" topic? I think that there are some people in the +30 rank that will break into the 1-30 spots or those who are inconsistent but are capable of wonders. I truly think that goody has a good chance and perhaps the breakout open bracket foreigner.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
August 24 2012 16:47 GMT
#111
Until Taeja beats Seed in a bo3 or greater, in my mind the GSL champ is still number 1. They split their games at IPL TAC, and Seed has been very good in WCS Korea. If only IM could get him out to MLGs...
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
RUFinalBoss
Profile Joined May 2012
United States266 Posts
August 24 2012 17:04 GMT
#112
qxc is number 1
Story Of My SC2 Love Life, Meets ROOT. ROOT Disbands :( JOINS COL :D COL JOINS MVP :D HYPE! Col.MvP go byebye ): BUT THEN! ROOT GAMING IS BACK OMGOMGOMG qxc - Minigun - ROOTerdam - Catz - Drewbie - TaiLS - KeeN
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
August 24 2012 17:20 GMT
#113
The only mlg ive ever been to was columbus last year with my brother. It had the grubby line. It has the debut of the grubby line.

And now, the grubby line is back, and im pumped for this mlg i cant even go to. At cbus, heart was created as a player in my mind. He didnt exist beforehand.

Im pumped.
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
appletree
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark109 Posts
August 24 2012 17:23 GMT
#114
On August 25 2012 01:00 kuriz wrote:
Really good ranking! But I don't understand why MC is not in there?



MC is unfortunetaly not participating at this MLG with OSL just around the corner.
a
Tuxedo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States134 Posts
August 24 2012 17:26 GMT
#115
My question is Where is Axslav? wtf . Great writeup of course, but Axslav doesn't get the credit he deserves. He has made it to the championship bracket at Both of the last MLG Championships. When Suppy got into EG he had a showmatch vs Axslav and lost 3-1. Also, I was standing behind Axslav and watching him as he beat idra and sent him to the losers bracket at the last MLG championship. It seems like no matter how consistently good Axslav is, he doesn't get the recognition he deserves as a player because he isn't followed by a hype train.

Dat Ax! I bleed Infinity Seven Black
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
August 24 2012 17:30 GMT
#116
marineking seems to have worked really hard on this TvZ and you see a lot of Byun in his play these days. This might be his time for comeback. He didn't have too much broadcasted matches lately, but this makes a player with that much dedication and drive to be the best just insanely strong. Marineking for taking it all!
yungSC2
Profile Joined August 2012
20 Posts
August 24 2012 17:48 GMT
#117
On August 25 2012 02:30 TeeTS wrote:
marineking seems to have worked really hard on this TvZ and you see a lot of Byun in his play these days. This might be his time for comeback. He didn't have too much broadcasted matches lately, but this makes a player with that much dedication and drive to be the best just insanely strong. Marineking for taking it all!


I agree, MKP is easily one of the favorites here, probably the only player he needs to avoid is aLive with his strong mech TvT

There are no tricky Zergs here such as SymboL or YuGiOh, (and his arch rival DRG isnt here either)

and the ones who are here he should know all too well.

And his TvP is nearly unmatched, so he shouldnt have much trouble dealing with Oz or HerO.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
August 24 2012 18:03 GMT
#118
Really? MKP at #2 despite his awful performances recently? I think Stephano should be #2.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
August 24 2012 18:28 GMT
#119
On August 25 2012 02:26 Schwang wrote:
My question is Where is Axslav? wtf . Great writeup of course, but Axslav doesn't get the credit he deserves. He has made it to the championship bracket at Both of the last MLG Championships. When Suppy got into EG he had a showmatch vs Axslav and lost 3-1. Also, I was standing behind Axslav and watching him as he beat idra and sent him to the losers bracket at the last MLG championship. It seems like no matter how consistently good Axslav is, he doesn't get the recognition he deserves as a player because he isn't followed by a hype train.



Axslav is good, but he is barely out of the top 30. I wouldn't have put him there either.
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
Petninja
Profile Joined June 2011
United States159 Posts
August 24 2012 18:42 GMT
#120
On August 24 2012 15:37 TheLetterQ wrote:
I get the taeja hype, but there has been like six "best players in the world" since mvp lost the throne. I think we need to get over the obsession with naming the best player in the world, because its usually pretty ambiguous. In fact, i think the only players who have ever had a really strong claim to being the best at a certain time have been mvp and nestea.


That would be like saying you can't have a top pick basketball player anymore because Michael Jordan used to be really good for a long time.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 18:49:15
August 24 2012 18:47 GMT
#121
Stephano should be number 2. He is ridiculously consistent. He is phenomenally consistent; he has been ever since IPL 3 and ESWC. That's a almost full year without a slump. He rarely, if ever loses to obvious lesser players, and is in the top ten in terms of prize money.

He revolutionised both ZvP and ZvT multiple times. Ling/Infestor vs T, late game vs Protoss, Stephano build vs P. Ultralisks vs T (first to consistently use them I believe I maps like Antiga), and Ultra Ling Infestor vs Z. It's actually insane.

As I'm writing this, I'm considering his candidacy for number 1 - Taeja certainly hasn't been as consistent, and I think there's a small bit too mic hype behind him due to his recent all-kills.
yungSC2
Profile Joined August 2012
20 Posts
August 24 2012 19:07 GMT
#122
wow, now hold your horses :p

Stephano comes from a decent but not flawless 5th place at MLG, and there is always a lot of foreigner hype suggesting to push him above proven Champions like MKP.
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
August 24 2012 19:17 GMT
#123
Great write-up Looking forward to dominating performances from TaeJa MKP and HerO!
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 24 2012 19:19 GMT
#124
On August 25 2012 04:07 yungSC2 wrote:
wow, now hold your horses :p

Stephano comes from a decent but not flawless 5th place at MLG, and there is always a lot of foreigner hype suggesting to push him above proven Champions like MKP.

I agree. He hasn't win MLG. Having said that, he has proven time and time again that he can beat Code S level players. He is a proven champion himself.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 24 2012 19:26 GMT
#125
On August 25 2012 04:17 StaplerPhone wrote:
Great write-up Looking forward to dominating performances from TaeJa MKP and HerO!

Without too many tosses in Hero's goup, he should be able to advance. Hopefully Liquid players don't meet up.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
August 24 2012 20:02 GMT
#126
Alicia better win this one.
And if my dreams could become reality, Grubby will win.
emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
August 24 2012 20:08 GMT
#127
On August 25 2012 01:18 Aando wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 00:30 Ritchie wrote:
It would be absolutely amazing for this tournament to help us figure out whether MKP or Taeja is the best Terran in the world right now.

+ Show Spoiler +

I know there's still MVP out there but let's ignore that just for this tournament

How come people always seems to forget Byun when it comes to the best terrans? Fuck, I'd say Byun > MKP.


so brave
Postremo
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)5 Posts
August 24 2012 20:48 GMT
#128
Stephano is underrated because just he is a foreigner I think. Many Koreans also agreed he is the top zerg now.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 24 2012 21:28 GMT
#129
I think he is under-rated. Like I said above, he has never slumped, and he has revolutionised every MU multiple times (Ling Infestor Ultra may not be revolutionary in ZvZ, but whatever).

He places highly in literally every tournaments he attends. He is an absolutely phenomenal player. Watching other Zergs' unit control makes me cringe after watching this guy. His is simply amazing (see his game vs MC NASL 3, or MKP on CK MLG).
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 00:42:24
August 25 2012 00:37 GMT
#130
On August 24 2012 20:48 Fizzy wrote:
First i read that IdrA was at #29, then i deiced to look at the players who are attending so that i could decide if the writer is a IdrA fanboy or if the turnout to this event really is bad enough for idra to be top 30.


...? He has been playing much better as of late, which you would know if you read the article. He looked good against Taeja, even despite the 1.5 glitches, beat marine king, and overall has done quite well in ZvZ and ZvT lately. Or at least good enough to secure a top 30 spot. His ZvP on the other hand... hasn't been so great lately.

Stephano isn't underrated, there's NO way he deserves to be above Taeja with how Taeja has been playing lately, and MKP vs. Stephano for spot number 2 is kind of "eh" as they both kind of deserve the spot at this point. Just think of spots 2 and 3 as inter-changeable. With that being said, he's no longer overrated. For a long time people were saying he was the best player/zerg in the world when he was nowhere near it, now he definitely one of, if not THE, best zergs at the moment.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 25 2012 09:32 GMT
#131
I think he is the best. Symbol has fallen off, as has DRG (Stephano has a winning record vs DRG IIRC). Again though, you're prioritising Taeja's recent victories, whereas Stephano has been playing like he is now essentially for a year (and steadily improving).
mGGLearning
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Australia26 Posts
August 25 2012 12:13 GMT
#132
MKP hwaiting! XD
Catatafish
Profile Joined April 2012
75 Posts
August 25 2012 14:26 GMT
#133
On August 24 2012 18:39 Misacampo wrote:
lol not surprised to see the liquid writeup put liquidtaeja at #1... Even though in both of his tournament wins, he didn't beat any "big names" except for MC. Team leagues don't mean much. Look at where symbol, moon and life are. They're winning every GSL aren't they.



How about the six or so back-to-back victories in ESV?
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
August 25 2012 14:43 GMT
#134
There is very little doubt that TaeJa currently holds a very strong claim to being the best player in the world.


Mvp would like a word with you....

Lol but nah seriously, if it were 'TaeJa holds a very strong claim to being the best player attending this MLG' or something along those lines. Personally I think that would've been a better way to word it.

I think the 'best player in the world' is thrown around a tad much. I mean say in another 2-3 months and TaeJa had continued putting up good/great results, then there would indeed be 'very little doubt'.

Good example being DongRaeGu being the best/most consistent player for the first half of 2012.

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Beefpotpie
Profile Joined February 2012
United States53 Posts
August 26 2012 02:17 GMT
#135
Where is Crank!?!
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
August 26 2012 05:07 GMT
#136
On August 26 2012 11:17 Beefpotpie wrote:
Where is Crank!?!

None of the five writers ranking found his name on the list. =P Just throw him in at 16 between Ganzi and Puma.
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wfire
Profile Joined June 2012
25 Posts
August 26 2012 18:20 GMT
#137
They r overhyping thier own players. Revival 2-0 Shephano. Hero narrowly beat Crank after being up two games. And tajea is in the loser bracket. still go IdrA,Sheth,Hero, and tajea
GO idrA, TLO, Sheth, ret, DRG, nestea, huK, and day 9
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-26 20:12:03
August 26 2012 20:01 GMT
#138
Wups, never mind
the last wcs commissioner
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