On August 18 2012 12:57 Dodgin wrote: I think wax just keeps predicting against mvp so when he finally loses he will look like a genius
I have to laugh at this from the open bracket preview now:
The part where I explain why Mvp won't win, against my better instincts
With four GSL Championships, (T)LG-IM_Mvp is clearly the best Starcraft II player of all time and a living legend. All those in attendance at IEM Cologne should take care to not even step on his shadow, lest they disrespect him.
That said, Mvp is terrible when he's not playing in the GSL. We all saw how limited he was at HomeStoryCup V, where intelligence and experience alone could not overcome a noticeable decline in mechanics. With the pain in his arms preventing him from practicing as much as he'd like, he gets left further and further behind with every day that passes.
Also, Mvp despises international air travel, and it's not hard to tell he's in Cologne mainly in order to fulfill sponsor obligations to LG. Mvp is a professional, and he'll tough it out and do his best to perform as long as he's there, but it's unrealistic to expect a great result.
Terrible outside GSL, gets first seed in open bracket, wins group stage.
This. And if we go back to last year, WCG, MLG, Blizzcon are not gsl tournies.
On August 18 2012 13:51 Wildmoon wrote: Wax's usual bias against Mvp. I laught so hard whenever someone say Mvp is not good outside GSL because I am trying to think who has won more than him in international tournament. lol
Actually, Mvp declined in foreign tournaments kind of substantially as his wrist problems grew. Even in his GSL 2 run, he didn't win by beating everyone in every single way possible (as he did in all his other tournament wins), it was through mindgames and planning and stuff (aka stuff only applicable to GSL). What Wax is saying is that after Mvp's wrists have declined, it's become more and more difficult for hiim to stand up in foreign style tournaments where planning takes backseat to mechanics.
EDIT: with that being said, I still think Mvp is favored over SortOf (and am definitely cheering him on, as I have all his other runs), but don't randomly hate.
do people really think Mvp planned out every series in gsl s2 this year? lol
he said he only prepared for the first game in the finals
him cheesing a few games in the single elim part of the tournament makes everyone forget mvp vs leenock in the ro16, which is sad cause that series was gooooooooooood.
It's like people think Mvp has become a mid-tier foreigner in skill level just because of his wrists, skill doesn't magically disappear like that. He's playing a lot of mechanical TvZ lately too which is easier on him than marine/tank.
On August 18 2012 12:57 Dodgin wrote: I think wax just keeps predicting against mvp so when he finally loses he will look like a genius
I have to laugh at this from the open bracket preview now:
The part where I explain why Mvp won't win, against my better instincts
With four GSL Championships, (T)LG-IM_Mvp is clearly the best Starcraft II player of all time and a living legend. All those in attendance at IEM Cologne should take care to not even step on his shadow, lest they disrespect him.
That said, Mvp is terrible when he's not playing in the GSL. We all saw how limited he was at HomeStoryCup V, where intelligence and experience alone could not overcome a noticeable decline in mechanics. With the pain in his arms preventing him from practicing as much as he'd like, he gets left further and further behind with every day that passes.
Also, Mvp despises international air travel, and it's not hard to tell he's in Cologne mainly in order to fulfill sponsor obligations to LG. Mvp is a professional, and he'll tough it out and do his best to perform as long as he's there, but it's unrealistic to expect a great result.
Terrible outside GSL, gets first seed in open bracket, wins group stage.
This. And if we go back to last year, WCG, MLG, Blizzcon are not gsl tournies.
On August 18 2012 13:51 Wildmoon wrote: Wax's usual bias against Mvp. I laught so hard whenever someone say Mvp is not good outside GSL because I am trying to think who has won more than him in international tournament. lol
Actually, Mvp declined in foreign tournaments kind of substantially as his wrist problems grew. Even in his GSL 2 run, he didn't win by beating everyone in every single way possible (as he did in all his other tournament wins), it was through mindgames and planning and stuff (aka stuff only applicable to GSL). What Wax is saying is that after Mvp's wrists have declined, it's become more and more difficult for hiim to stand up in foreign style tournaments where planning takes backseat to mechanics.
EDIT: with that being said, I still think Mvp is favored over SortOf (and am definitely cheering him on, as I have all his other runs), but don't randomly hate.
If you actually watched the GSL which Mvp won you will know that most of his wins were standard game but people just saw his last game against Squirtle and thought that he cheesed his way to win th GSL. Only serie you can say he mostly cheesed to win was against Naniwa but still he beated Naniwa in standard game in first game.
ZvT is SortOf's weakest matchup as well... I'm not going to say he can't win, but he's definitely not the favourite by any stretch of the imagination. Poor Mvp, always the underdog in Wax's writeups. :p
"If I predict Sortof to beat Mvp and he does I'll look so smart!" is not a good way to go about writing an article. Stop trying to pretend that Mvp is bad when he is one of the best terrans in the world. It makes the article look stupid.
Hey Wax, what's wrong with you? You proved to be always wrong about your thinking over MVP...lol You seem really stubborn ....like a genius lol (well maybe not really)
On August 18 2012 14:10 Dodgin wrote: do people really think Mvp planned out every series in gsl s2 this year? lol
he said he only prepared for the first game in the finals
him cheesing a few games in the single elim part of the tournament makes everyone forget mvp vs leenock in the ro16, which is sad cause that series was gooooooooooood.
It's like people think Mvp has become a mid-tier foreigner in skill level just because of his wrists, skill doesn't magically disappear like that. He's playing a lot of mechanical TvZ lately too which is easier on him than marine/tank.
Even if you don't believe him It's impossible to plan out every game in the ro32 and ro16. The maps are not pre-set and you don't know who you are going to be going up against in the winners match/losers match/final match.
JESUS , give mvp some credit, he'll roll through those zergs with competant play all day long.
EDIT: i have said this before, but mvp is the only player in sc2 i know of, which is considered dead and gone , if he doesnt win every ´single thing he enters
WaxAngel : Where can I get odds on YuGiOh representing Korea in he WCS World finals? I'll put all my money on it (he wrote this on twitter)
Well, Wax I personally recommend you go to some good psychotherapists and heal your unstable mind / impulse control disorders or you will lose all your money to kill yourself in some day
and don't blame teamliquid not to give you a credit as admin cuz I think they are pretty smart.
Wait, on what planet is Mvp terrible outside of GSL when he's won almost every LAN he's played in? HSCV was ugly but he crushed face at MLG, Blizzcon, and WCG.
On August 18 2012 18:15 forsooth wrote: Wait, on what planet is Mvp terrible outside of GSL when he's won almost every LAN he's played in? HSCV was ugly but he crushed face at MLG, Blizzcon, and WCG.
And lost at MLG providence to the eventuala winner (leenock) who would then go on to beat him again in the semifinals of the gsl
EPT
