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Jt4096
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia78 Posts
June 23 2012 19:41 GMT
#1081
Eh, I reckon if half the people in this thread called it a 'film' and not a 'documentary'* then their complaints would disappear. Still, it wouldn't be a video on Youtube without haters...



*And who the !&^@ is anyone kidding, the definition of documentary is getting looser and looser every day in this millenium.
I that am, am, therefore that that is, is.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9576 Posts
June 23 2012 19:41 GMT
#1082
Very interesting movie. I got to know the players I cheer for every tournament, as human beings, which is priceless =)
I'm really surprised about HerO, that he smokes, thinks he was maybe brought in to replace Huk, is so very humble etc.
Nony having depression, reason for TLO's beard, the feelings about Huk etc.
The Taeja and Zenio parts were a bit short understandably, because the were recruited late compared to everyone else.
I used to dislike Zenio for that stupid slap ceremony against Idra, but I guess he's a really nice guy IRL.

GJ TL & Director ;p
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
June 23 2012 19:44 GMT
#1083
"Liquid Rising - the only god damn movie in the entire history of mankind which did subtitles well." - Me
Common Sense - so rare that it's a super power
Adellund
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark92 Posts
June 23 2012 19:49 GMT
#1084
It felt like trash in my opinion... take my opinion for what you want, but I felt disheartened that some people actually chose to pay for this content..

tl;dr => fluffy content and lack of actual content about STARCRAFT, which TeamLiquid mostly is all about..... hearing lifestories is fun and all... but when I watch a DOCUMENTARY, I want FACTS and not life stories...... this documentary had NOTHING about starcraft as a whole, and when starcraft was mentioned, it was briefly and extremely scarce in the sense that we hear about Hero's championship run in DH Winter2011, and Haypro's run in MLG.... none of the pros talk about past accomplishments and methods of training and tournament experiences pre, during and past joining TL
If you put RoRo on your anti-team you should be ashamed!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
June 23 2012 19:54 GMT
#1085
Amazing documentary. I love how it shows TL as a family, not as much as a gaming team. Keep it up TL!
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
June 23 2012 20:01 GMT
#1086
Just got done watching it..

Beautiful.
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
GrimmJ
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada131 Posts
June 23 2012 20:15 GMT
#1087
On June 24 2012 04:49 Adellund wrote:
It felt like trash in my opinion... take my opinion for what you want, but I felt disheartened that some people actually chose to pay for this content..

tl;dr => fluffy content and lack of actual content about STARCRAFT, which TeamLiquid mostly is all about..... hearing lifestories is fun and all... but when I watch a DOCUMENTARY, I want FACTS and not life stories...... this documentary had NOTHING about starcraft as a whole, and when starcraft was mentioned, it was briefly and extremely scarce in the sense that we hear about Hero's championship run in DH Winter2011, and Haypro's run in MLG.... none of the pros talk about past accomplishments and methods of training and tournament experiences pre, during and past joining TL




Want facts? Use Liquipedia. Too many interviews and life stories? Don't watch the DOCUMENTARY. This video was obviously made to show the fundamentals and bonds of the team and the life of a progamer (from a different sense). I feel like I learned a lot about the players from this film.


For everyone complaining that there wasn't enough SC2 content, and too many interviews, you should probably use YouTube to watch their games. I can understand the director wanted to focus on the behind scenes, since most TL users already pay attention to tournaments and results.
lovedoctor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 20:26:50
June 23 2012 20:25 GMT
#1088
On June 24 2012 05:15 GrimmJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 04:49 Adellund wrote:
It felt like trash in my opinion... take my opinion for what you want, but I felt disheartened that some people actually chose to pay for this content..

tl;dr => fluffy content and lack of actual content about STARCRAFT, which TeamLiquid mostly is all about..... hearing lifestories is fun and all... but when I watch a DOCUMENTARY, I want FACTS and not life stories...... this documentary had NOTHING about starcraft as a whole, and when starcraft was mentioned, it was briefly and extremely scarce in the sense that we hear about Hero's championship run in DH Winter2011, and Haypro's run in MLG.... none of the pros talk about past accomplishments and methods of training and tournament experiences pre, during and past joining TL




Want facts? Use Liquipedia. Too many interviews and life stories? Don't watch the DOCUMENTARY. This video was obviously made to show the fundamentals and bonds of the team and the life of a progamer (from a different sense). I feel like I learned a lot about the players from this film.


For everyone complaining that there wasn't enough SC2 content, and too many interviews, you should probably use YouTube to watch their games. I can understand the director wanted to focus on the behind scenes, since most TL users already pay attention to tournaments and results.


There are very few guys asking for more sc2 conent. Most people wished to just see something of how you called it "behind the scenes" stuff actually happening instead of just seeing players talking about it.
"Infestors own marines in a way you don't understand" - artosis
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 20:35:23
June 23 2012 20:32 GMT
#1089
On June 24 2012 02:02 Thrill wrote:
In my opinion, what this documentary essentially amounts to is quite defeatist.

So there's no competitive spirit worth capturing at recent SC2 events?

The guy with the handycam at WCG USA 200X who filmed Artosis, Tasteless, Day9, Frozz etc did a documentary that accurately portrayed and captured the emotions of competing in a western eSports event.



OMG yes! This 15 min doc was awesome and is closer to what I was expecting. That 15 min was way more interesting and exciting than 90 mins of sit down interviews.

Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
GrimmJ
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada131 Posts
June 23 2012 20:32 GMT
#1090
On June 24 2012 05:25 lovedoctor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 05:15 GrimmJ wrote:
On June 24 2012 04:49 Adellund wrote:
It felt like trash in my opinion... take my opinion for what you want, but I felt disheartened that some people actually chose to pay for this content..

tl;dr => fluffy content and lack of actual content about STARCRAFT, which TeamLiquid mostly is all about..... hearing lifestories is fun and all... but when I watch a DOCUMENTARY, I want FACTS and not life stories...... this documentary had NOTHING about starcraft as a whole, and when starcraft was mentioned, it was briefly and extremely scarce in the sense that we hear about Hero's championship run in DH Winter2011, and Haypro's run in MLG.... none of the pros talk about past accomplishments and methods of training and tournament experiences pre, during and past joining TL




Want facts? Use Liquipedia. Too many interviews and life stories? Don't watch the DOCUMENTARY. This video was obviously made to show the fundamentals and bonds of the team and the life of a progamer (from a different sense). I feel like I learned a lot about the players from this film.


For everyone complaining that there wasn't enough SC2 content, and too many interviews, you should probably use YouTube to watch their games. I can understand the director wanted to focus on the behind scenes, since most TL users already pay attention to tournaments and results.


There are very few guys asking for more sc2 conent. Most people wished to just see something of how you called it "behind the scenes" stuff actually happening instead of just seeing players talking about it.



I get that, but I think it's extremely naive of people to expect so much of that "behind the scenes". I mean, all the traveling that these players do, some of them are not even at the same events together. A camera can't always be there every time something happens either. It may not be perfect, but I do wish people could just enjoy these Team Liquid players recounting their own stories. Instead of condemning a film that they don't HAVE to pay for. You know what I mean? I'm just baffled by some of the reactions to this documentary which was made for the community, out of initiative.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
June 23 2012 20:36 GMT
#1091
On June 24 2012 05:15 GrimmJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 04:49 Adellund wrote:
It felt like trash in my opinion... take my opinion for what you want, but I felt disheartened that some people actually chose to pay for this content..

tl;dr => fluffy content and lack of actual content about STARCRAFT, which TeamLiquid mostly is all about..... hearing lifestories is fun and all... but when I watch a DOCUMENTARY, I want FACTS and not life stories...... this documentary had NOTHING about starcraft as a whole, and when starcraft was mentioned, it was briefly and extremely scarce in the sense that we hear about Hero's championship run in DH Winter2011, and Haypro's run in MLG.... none of the pros talk about past accomplishments and methods of training and tournament experiences pre, during and past joining TL




Want facts? Use Liquipedia. Too many interviews and life stories? Don't watch the DOCUMENTARY. This video was obviously made to show the fundamentals and bonds of the team and the life of a progamer (from a different sense). I feel like I learned a lot about the players from this film.


For everyone complaining that there wasn't enough SC2 content, and too many interviews, you should probably use YouTube to watch their games. I can understand the director wanted to focus on the behind scenes, since most TL users already pay attention to tournaments and results.


I couldn't disagree more. The point of making a documentary was to get a good look at what the lives of the Liquid players are like and find out more about them through filming that SHOWS us. Instead it was a compilation of interviews that TELLS us some stuff, most of which, we already knew. It's not bad content. I found myself entertained enough. But to put this type of content through production and create a documentary about it is a wasted opportunity to make something truly special.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
June 23 2012 20:37 GMT
#1092
I'm really surprised by the dissapointment among some people :O Honestly what where they expecting?

I never expected more, or less, then to get know the faces behind the keyboards. Sure, it could have done that much better but it's still really good.

The people who complan about the lack of SC2, I was really surprised by that. I already watch Liquid play, I know that part.

In short, it was what I expected, gave some nice insight (Hero smokes!) and was fun to watch.
We know nothing.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
June 23 2012 20:47 GMT
#1093
On June 24 2012 04:41 Latham wrote:
Very interesting movie. I got to know the players I cheer for every tournament, as human beings, which is priceless =)
I'm really surprised about HerO, that he smokes, thinks he was maybe brought in to replace Huk, is so very humble etc.
Nony having depression, reason for TLO's beard, the feelings about Huk etc.
The Taeja and Zenio parts were a bit short understandably, because the were recruited late compared to everyone else.
I used to dislike Zenio for that stupid slap ceremony against Idra, but I guess he's a really nice guy IRL.

GJ TL & Director ;p


My thoughts exactly. Knowing stuff is one thing but hearing the stories behind it is a joy. I always pause when I'm watching something to F5 TL or listen to some music, or think about what I was seeing but I didn't pause for 1 hour and a half, fuck I love TL.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
June 23 2012 20:51 GMT
#1094
On June 24 2012 05:32 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 02:02 Thrill wrote:
In my opinion, what this documentary essentially amounts to is quite defeatist.

So there's no competitive spirit worth capturing at recent SC2 events?

The guy with the handycam at WCG USA 200X who filmed Artosis, Tasteless, Day9, Frozz etc did a documentary that accurately portrayed and captured the emotions of competing in a western eSports event.



OMG yes! This 15 min doc was awesome and is closer to what I was expecting. That 15 min was way more interesting and exciting than 90 mins of sit down interviews.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0fV5KADifY



Yep that WCG one is how it should be done. Using mainly footage to tell a story. I feel like the Liquid Rising video could have just been pure audio as it was practically just interviews. It wasn`t bad or anything but definitely not what I was expecting.
SkIttLeS.
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada6 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 20:52:14
June 23 2012 20:51 GMT
#1095
That turned out to be a lot better than I was expecting it to be. Was nice to learn some new things about the TL players.
lovedoctor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-23 21:01:35
June 23 2012 20:59 GMT
#1096
On June 24 2012 05:32 GrimmJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 05:25 lovedoctor wrote:
On June 24 2012 05:15 GrimmJ wrote:
On June 24 2012 04:49 Adellund wrote:
It felt like trash in my opinion... take my opinion for what you want, but I felt disheartened that some people actually chose to pay for this content..

tl;dr => fluffy content and lack of actual content about STARCRAFT, which TeamLiquid mostly is all about..... hearing lifestories is fun and all... but when I watch a DOCUMENTARY, I want FACTS and not life stories...... this documentary had NOTHING about starcraft as a whole, and when starcraft was mentioned, it was briefly and extremely scarce in the sense that we hear about Hero's championship run in DH Winter2011, and Haypro's run in MLG.... none of the pros talk about past accomplishments and methods of training and tournament experiences pre, during and past joining TL




Want facts? Use Liquipedia. Too many interviews and life stories? Don't watch the DOCUMENTARY. This video was obviously made to show the fundamentals and bonds of the team and the life of a progamer (from a different sense). I feel like I learned a lot about the players from this film.


For everyone complaining that there wasn't enough SC2 content, and too many interviews, you should probably use YouTube to watch their games. I can understand the director wanted to focus on the behind scenes, since most TL users already pay attention to tournaments and results.


There are very few guys asking for more sc2 conent. Most people wished to just see something of how you called it "behind the scenes" stuff actually happening instead of just seeing players talking about it.



I get that, but I think it's extremely naive of people to expect so much of that "behind the scenes". I mean, all the traveling that these players do, some of them are not even at the same events together. A camera can't always be there every time something happens either. It may not be perfect, but I do wish people could just enjoy these Team Liquid players recounting their own stories. Instead of condemning a film that they don't HAVE to pay for. You know what I mean? I'm just baffled by some of the reactions to this documentary which was made for the community, out of initiative.


You are right! Better this one than having no movie at all. And if you don't know much about teamliquid then it must be really interesting. This super cool trailer video, the fact that they filmed for 8 months and the high aspiration that TL stands for just gave me extremely high expectations ...
"Infestors own marines in a way you don't understand" - artosis
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
June 23 2012 21:07 GMT
#1097
I thought it was great and I am really glad it was done
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iGn1t3
Profile Joined May 2011
Hong Kong73 Posts
June 23 2012 21:14 GMT
#1098
Like! Thanks TL!
I lose today to win tomorrow.
kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
June 23 2012 21:27 GMT
#1099
I thought this was very very good.
Be the change you wish to see in the world ^-^V //
Clutch8
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
June 23 2012 21:28 GMT
#1100
Watched it.
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