This documentary was much better than what I was expecting after reading about all the hate. I really felt for TL and wanted to cheer the players on. TL has so many talented individuals with unique personalities, and the interesting thing is that they've all had their moment. You really want to cheer for them and see better performance from them after this.

Weson

Iceland1032 Posts

June 23 2012 07:22 GMT

#847

I'm watching it and it is great so far, well done. But there is one sentence i dont understand; 1:06:56 Hero is talking about Zenio and says: "People who first see him say he looks stoic and even scary". I tried to google the word stoic but never found a good answer, can someone help me with that sentence?

Tailss

Sweden233 Posts

June 23 2012 07:24 GMT

#848

Really intresting documentary!

ghindo

United States58 Posts

June 23 2012 07:24 GMT

#849

Wished we could have learned more about Nazgul's progaming history, and Tyler's epic Courage run, but I guess there's only so much you can do in an hour and a half.

Weird to see Huk saying that like, every member of Liquid shouldn't be as nice.

epology

1 Post

June 23 2012 07:30 GMT

#850

Thanks for making this video- I had no expectations really but in the end it was worth donating some money for it.

Downsides were the mediocre recording equipment and post-production quality. The attempted noise cancellation was clearely audible, mostly of in form of artifacts at the beginning and end of speech. It seems this could have been circumvented by providing the editor with some better headphones for mixing.

Also I felt the whole part about HuK leaving TL was too awkward in an otherwise really positive video. People kept contradicting themselves by either saying they dont have a problem with HuK leaving in a bitter voice, or stating that it is no problem for them and then following it up with facts how TL helped him come to greatness and how his MLG championship should have been unter TL. Also not sure about the part where people discuss HuK possibly coming back- it seemed out of place somehow.

Overall I feel the first point is valid in any case, whereas the second one is subjective. What do you guys think?

enemy2010

Germany1972 Posts

June 23 2012 07:30 GMT

#851

The editing was really nice, the music was very fitting, production quality was awesome.

Still this was not what I had expected.

I expected a documentary with behind-the-scenes footage, getting to know the whole process of how Liquid was found, how it developed over the years, how every player had his role in this developement, how the teams deals with wins and losses by their members, I expected a film that showes me the WHOLE thing that IS Team Liquid and that keeps Team Liquid running.

This film was interviews. Sure, I got to know the players, found out some nice secrets that most people hadn't known before. But even this point was not really well done. The interviews were too short and too superficial (not in-depth). I still don't know how HerO and TaeJa and Zenio is. Well, this might have something to do with the attitude koreans have, that they are shy and don't really want to talkt about themselves. But it would've been nice to ask them really personal questions that would them make reveal at least some parts of themselves no-one has known before.

I still don't know how the team house of TL looks like, how their practice schedules work, how they even practice and play together. I don't know how they travel together to big events, how thei live there together, how they interact there together, how they spend their free time there.

I still don't know what other people that aren'T in TL think about the team. Sure, I heard Day9 and iNcontroL and HuK and djWHEAT talk about it. But I don't know their experiences with TL. Obviously TL had a huge influence in the gaming life of Day9, but I didn't get to know that.

I still don't know who Hot_Bid, Nazgul and the TL staff is, how many people work together to keep TL running and who these persons really are. I wanted to know about their gaming history, especially with Starcraft.

I still don't know TL's role in Broodwar. I don't know what TL did to deliver foreign fans the Broodwar experience that obviously was SO BIG in Korea.

There are so many questions left unanswered for me after watching this movie.

I was asked before clicking on "watch now" how much money I want to donate. I wanted to watch the film first before spending any money, cause at the moment I am pretty low on money and need it very hard.
For the content, I would pay 1$.
For the work that has been put into making this film (crew, editing, creation of graphics etc.) I would pay 1$.

I am sad that I would spend only 2 dollars for this movie.

Mawi

Sweden4365 Posts

June 23 2012 07:32 GMT

#852

lold so hard in the beginning when hotbid said jaedong, such a nice troll <3

Sumahi

Guam5609 Posts

June 23 2012 07:44 GMT

#853

Just made my donation. I'm happy to support projects like this, I hope we see more documentaries in the future. They can help build so much pride in both the teams in esports in general.

Sadform

United Kingdom79 Posts

June 23 2012 07:44 GMT

#854

On June 23 2012 16:30 enemy2010 wrote:
Still this was not what I had expected.

I expected a documentary with behind-the-scenes footage, getting to know the whole process of how Liquid was found, how it developed over the years, how every player had his role in this developement, how the teams deals with wins and losses by their members, I expected a film that showes me the WHOLE thing that IS Team Liquid and that keeps Team Liquid running.

This film was interviews. Sure, I got to know the players, found out some nice secrets that most people hadn't known before. But even this point was not really well done. The interviews were too short and too superficial (not in-depth). I still don't know how HerO and TaeJa and Zenio is. Well, this might have something to do with the attitude koreans have, that they are shy and don't really want to talkt about themselves. But it would've been nice to ask them really personal questions that would them make reveal at least some parts of themselves no-one has known before.

I still don't know how the team house of TL looks like, how their practice schedules work, how they even practice and play together. I don't know how they travel together to big events, how thei live there together, how they interact there together, how they spend their free time there.

I still don't know what other people that aren'T in TL think about the team. Sure, I heard Day9 and iNcontroL and HuK and djWHEAT talk about it. But I don't know their experiences with TL. Obviously TL had a huge influence in the gaming life of Day9, but I didn't get to know that.

I agree completely. I was really looking forward to this documentary but as you said before it was just a bunch of interviews, that I could probably of got if I just went onto youtube and searched TLO interview etc... The most we got about the behind the scenes was watching haypro in his run and losing to MVP which was really cool and that only lasted 1 minute. That was the style I was hoping the documentary was going to be like. But instead we got 5minutes of the other members of the team going 'haypro is actaully a really funny guy'.

ProxyKnoxy

United Kingdom2576 Posts

June 23 2012 07:45 GMT

#855

Any plans to release some of the unseen footage? Maybe random snippets onto TL youtube channel? There must be tonnes of footage from tournaments or teamhouses that haven't been used, and it would be pretty interesting to see some more behind the scenes stuff, if the footage isn't going to be used for anything anyway. Just an idea.

Corrupted

United States1255 Posts

June 23 2012 07:45 GMT

#856

I just wanted to say that the Hero part of this movie was pretty epic and touching. I am definitely a much bigger fan of his now.

Ziken

Ghana1743 Posts

June 23 2012 07:55 GMT

#857

I wanted to comment on this yesterday, but was too tired. Must say, TLO such a boss, that ending LOL. Great documentary, definitely lived up to my expectations :D

Weson

Iceland1032 Posts

June 23 2012 08:00 GMT

#858

Just watched the whole thing. Well i got to say i feel dissapointed. I wanted to know more about the build-up of team liquid, not the players. There already are so much media out there where the players say the same things that were said in the interviews. I got kinda bored half way through and ended up having it playing in the background while doing other things. The production was great in the beginning but didn't keep up through the whole thing. It feelt more like a promotional movie for the players rather then a documentary.