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ROG: The Case for Polt - Page 3
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fishuu
United States369 Posts
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Hallayz
Norway26 Posts
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
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Night Eyes
433 Posts
And really if you didnt see the Polt vs Lucky games... go see them.... NOW. | ||
nimdil
Poland3753 Posts
On February 27 2012 20:11 Vindicare605 wrote: Absolutely agreed Fionn. I know you're a Polt fanboy, but I'm not. But after seeing him at Assembly, and seeing his list of achievements over the past few weeks, and taking into consideration the fact he's a freaking former GSL Code S CHAMPION to boot, It's obvious to me that there isn't anyone else in the world right now that deserves a seed more than Polt. He's earned it. Unless FruitDealer will somehow win IEM World Championship. Even more respectable tournament + fomer GSL Champion as well | ||
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Clbull
United Kingdom1439 Posts
On February 27 2012 23:01 shell wrote: I find it very bad taste of the most recent news items in TL seem to always dismiss foreigners or bash on huk/naniwa/idra/sen because of the seeds. It's quite embarassing why the writers always choose that aproach. If GSL wants to give them to foreigners why would you try and deny the value of those players and that particular choice of gom? If it's good for gom(sell more tickets) and it's good for the players and god know that 2 or 3 koreans not giving a chance of getting the seed(even if it's unfair), it's just 3 less in 32 code and even more in code A.. Korean SC2 scene is not in danger but the foreigners are, we are the ones needing to improve no them.7 Naniwa just beat nestea for instance isn't he CODE S material? even if he does poorly in GSL, it's not easy you know? I think IdrA and Sen deserve the criticism. They were both given seeds for Season 1 just because of the fact that they were former Code S superstars and clearly, one of them was supposed to replace NaNiwa, who had his wrongfully taken away over a probe rushing incident that was in a tournament not even fucking related to a regular GSL season. As much as Mr Chae would like to spin the fact that "NaNiwa qualified for the Blizzard Cup through the League Exchange Program, not for the next GSL Season", the league exchange program explicitly states Code S seeds, and the Blizzard Cup didn't even reward as much money or prestige as a typical GSL season did. Now look at IdrA's "group of death" which contained NesTea and Mvp. I think if NaNiwa got the seed instead of IdrA, AS PLANNED, he would have taken the group and made it to the Ro16 with ease. After all, he has beaten the "God of Zerg" three times in MLG. IdrA's been playing awfully lately. In the same season as he was given a Code S seed, he won only one game (against Lucky) and was knocked out of the GSL entirely in three straight series, whilst whining that ZvP is a broken matchup in interviews (when only one of his opponents was a Protoss.) I mean I can get knocked out of the GSL in a complete and utter roflstomp too. Why didn't I get the Code S seed? Similarly, in the Winter Arena, IdrA only won 1 game in the whole tournament and that was against Oz. He then proceeded to get 2 - 0'd by NesTea in the first LB round. On the other hand, Sen hasn't done so badly. He's at least still in Code A (for now) but his move to the TeSL might have put him out of shape. At least the TW and KR ladders are twinned with each other though. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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lrofd
United States187 Posts
On February 27 2012 20:19 Atoissen wrote: Polt does deserve it, but I actually dont think he will gett it. This is why: - I think GomTV really prefer to give this to a "foreigner". - Polt just got knocked out of Code-A in "fair" games, he has not showed great games in GSTL either. - He is not a fan favourit (Like MKP, MC, Idra etc.) - He is Terran... 45k viewers were watching him hammer stephano. i bet you he's made more than 1 fan in the event | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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dnld12
United States324 Posts
Foreigners have disappointed historically I really REALLY dont agree with this write up AT ALL. What about Hero winning dreamhack? Puma winning NASL. WHERE DOES Gsl get their money or income from. "FOREIGN FANS" Therefore Bring a foreigner into the ring. Bring someone who is 'foreign' and make money. Gsl is smart, i think Polt should NOT get Code s. | ||
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decaf
Austria1797 Posts
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emc
United States3088 Posts
and I remember talking to jinro on his stream and said polt was "complete shit" for using bio in TvT | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
On February 28 2012 01:39 dnld12 wrote: Foreigners have disappointed historically I really REALLY dont agree with this write up AT ALL. What about Hero winning dreamhack? Puma winning NASL. WHERE DOES Gsl get their money or income from. "FOREIGN FANS" Therefore Bring a foreigner into the ring. Bring someone who is 'foreign' and make money. Gsl is smart, i think Polt should NOT get Code s. after the pathetic showing of this season? I think most of us would agree that foreigners are a waste of space in GSL with exceptions to HuK and maybe nani who can compete with the best. foreigners tune into GSL not for foreigners, they do it because they look up to the koreans who are the best players in the world by far. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On February 28 2012 01:45 emc wrote: after the pathetic showing of this season? I think most of us would agree that foreigners are a waste of space in GSL with exceptions to HuK and maybe nani who can compete with the best. foreigners tune into GSL not for foreigners, they do it because they look up to the koreans who are the best players in the world by far. But GSL knows that it cannot survive solely on the Korean fanbase. It needs the international scene. Now most of us would not mind if the GSL Code S was all Korean, but what about someone new to the scene? They would have a hard time connecting to the players, especially since Korean names are not that diverse, both in real life and game id (MVP, MMA, MKP, MC). Of course the best players should get the seed, but the GSL will do what it needs to do to thrive, and that might be to give a foreigner one of the seeds. | ||
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Xarles
459 Posts
On February 28 2012 01:05 Clbull wrote: I think IdrA and Sen deserve the criticism. They were both given seeds for Season 1 just because of the fact that they were former Code S superstars and clearly, one of them was supposed to replace NaNiwa, who had his wrongfully taken away over a probe rushing incident that was in a tournament not even fucking related to a regular GSL season. As much as Mr Chae would like to spin the fact that "NaNiwa qualified for the Blizzard Cup through the League Exchange Program, not for the next GSL Season", the league exchange program explicitly states Code S seeds, and the Blizzard Cup didn't even reward as much money or prestige as a typical GSL season did. Now look at IdrA's "group of death" which contained NesTea and Mvp. I think if NaNiwa got the seed instead of IdrA, AS PLANNED, he would have taken the group and made it to the Ro16 with ease. After all, he has beaten the "God of Zerg" three times in MLG. IdrA's been playing awfully lately. In the same season as he was given a Code S seed, he won only one game (against Lucky) and was knocked out of the GSL entirely in three straight series, whilst whining that ZvP is a broken matchup in interviews (when only one of his opponents was a Protoss.) I mean I can get knocked out of the GSL in a complete and utter roflstomp too. Why didn't I get the Code S seed? Similarly, in the Winter Arena, IdrA only won 1 game in the whole tournament and that was against Oz. He then proceeded to get 2 - 0'd by NesTea in the first LB round. On the other hand, Sen hasn't done so badly. He's at least still in Code A (for now) but his move to the TeSL might have put him out of shape. At least the TW and KR ladders are twinned with each other though. MLG is more reliant on fundamentals than preparation. It's still a combo of both but mostly fundamentals. It's the opposite with GSL. With prep time players can better achieve their potential. Do note that DRG was the only Zerg to beat the top protoss. | ||
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skyflyfish
Canada499 Posts
On February 28 2012 01:20 lrofd wrote: 45k viewers were watching him hammer stephano. i bet you he's made more than 1 fan in the event its 55k not 45 | ||
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mapthesoul
Trinidad/Tobago429 Posts
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Sleed
Canada181 Posts
On the other hand I would like the seeding system to be more transparent (like it was last year). I would love to see Stephano in the GSL but he repeated it multiple times; staying in Korean for more than one month for only one tournament is not for him. | ||
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
On February 27 2012 19:45 Aunvilgod wrote: I fully agree. BUT if Stephano could be convinced to play in the GSL I would give him one seed. In my opinion he has proven himself enough in not only this recent ROG but also, if not even more, in the Blizzard Cup. Stephano deserves the GSL spot, but he didn't prove anything in the blizzard cup. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
Polt took 1st place at ASUS, he had to claw his way trough opponents of every race to do so, and good opponents at that and he won in convincing, but more importantly in spectacular fashion, I haven't been so excited to see a someone play since Bomber was on fire and destroying Raleigh. On top of ASUS he won the qualifier for IPL 4, going trough even more good opponents, and also several dailies. I can't think of anyone else that deserves this more then Polt, even if he is Korean. And for the record, I don't tune into a tournament just to see my favorite players, I tune in to see quality games, and I don't care who delivers it, that is why I love and respect the GSL, because it is THE tournament to follow if you want to see the highest level of play. If the players impress me with outstanding games via micro, macro and decision making, then I don't care if they are Korean or Martians, I just want to see the best of the best. I am quite sure that there are also a lot more people like me, who care for the quality more then they care for their favorite player, obviously they will root for their favorite player, but they will continue to watch even if he is knocked out in the RO32. Now, unless any of you actually show me some cold hard numbers, that indicate viewership for a specific day, or for a season grew, as a consequence of having some foreigners in Code S, then I'll just say bullshit. I'm tired of all this ignorance being spat around, people automatically assuming foreigners = vipers, without any data to back them up. | ||
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