• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:25
CEST 22:25
KST 05:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence7Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence Diplomacy, Cosmonarchy Edition BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion ASL20 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [ASL20] Ro16 Group C [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Borderlands 3
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1240 users

[GSTL] And Now for Something Completely Different

Forum Index > News
83 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All

[GSTL] And Now for Something Completely Different

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byPathy
February 4th, 2012 12:36 GMT

Table of Contents







Group B, Week One
Intro



Startale vs NS HoSeo
Match Results



IM vs TSL
Match Results


Sea[Shield] and the Team(only) Player
Opinion



Check out the GSTL on Liquipedia



Group B, Week One



Is it a coincidence that the GSTL brackets came out this way? Last week featured a disintegrating ZeNEX team going up against the Old Generation, which recent picked up new sponsors in MSI and Razer, not to mention a partnership with eSahara. For just one of those, ZeNEX would have gladly sacrificed a limb and a half. In that duel, the destitute but scrappy ZeNEX put up a good fight, but were defeated by oGs ace Supernova in the end.

Though it's not quite the same level of disparity between haves vs have nots, Team SCV Life and Incredible Miracle presented a similar tale. One team couldn't stop losing members, and the other couldn't stop winning championships.

People love to cheer for the underdog; F.United, TSL, Prime, and NS Hoseo were some of biggest fan favorites last season. But GomTV, you really have to give them a chance to build some momentum first, before you toss them into the lion's pit.

The double elimination format might give every team a second chance, but it's truly become an unforgiving, survival of the fittest GSTL world in 2012. May the best teams prevail, and the underdogs pray.

StartaleQ

NS HoSeo


Game One – Bomber vs Sting –
[image loading]
1/5
+ Show Spoiler +
Antiga Shipyard

The first game ended up being a more or less build order win for Bomber. He went for the recently popular proxy-barracks marauder rush, a great early attack option against Sting's gas-first banshee rush. Bomber's well microed marauders were able to take down a over 10 SCVs before Sting could finally stop the attack, and even caused a supply block to delay Sting's vital banshee.

Bomber simply had a better economy, and thus a bigger army after that point. He crushed Sting in an engagement out in the middle of the map, and forced the GG.


Winner: Bomber

Startale (1 – 0) NS HoSeo


Game Two –
[image loading]
4.5/5
+ Show Spoiler +
ST_Bomber vs NSH_Seal – Bel'Shir Beach Winter

The theme of game two was disarray and confusion. For the first half of the game, it looked like your typical macro TvZ game, with Terran throwing waves of troops against Zerg to try and out-trade him, and the Zerg playing defense while trying to get to hive.

The game turned weird when Seal decided to give up one of his expansions to go for a massive muta-ling counter attack instead. At first it looked to be a great trade for Seal, as he killed all but 18 SCVs for Bomber and forced off a retreat of Bomber's main force. However, Bomber still had four orbital commands worth of mules, which allowed him to continue building marines ten at a time. After cleaning up his main base, Bomber was able to counter-attack and kill all of Seal's mining bases leaving Seal looking awful dead as he distance mined with his fifty drones.

However, Seal had completed a shift to mass burrowed infestors before losing those bases, and set about doing whatever he could to win. Unable to fight, he went for counter attacks, and used mass infested Terrans to kill off significant portions of Bomber's base. Most importantly, he killed off the orbital commands first, crippling Bomber's income (he never rebuilt SCVs) and removing the detection that could counter the infestors.

The game settled into a strange situation where Bomber was left with one orbital command center remaining, while Seal continued to distance mine while his burrowed infestors looked for more weaknesses to exploit.

Briefly, Bomber considered landing his remaining orbital, turtling up, and rebuilding his infrastructure. However, a survey of the battlefield led him to change his mind. Seal had all of his advantages in being undetectable and being able to harass, but would not stand a chance in a head's up battle with Bomber's standing army. Rather than stand by and get slowly dismantled, Bomber decided to just go for the elimination.

It turned out to be the correct decision. Although he had barely any detection at all, Bomber had the incredible luck of Seal investing all of his gas into infestors with no burrowed banelings whatsoever. The final showdown was infestors with no kind of support at all against a MM tank army. Though Seal valiantly dropped infested Terrans and spread fungals, it was to no avail. With Bomber wiping out the remaining structures, Seal GG'd out


Winner: Bomber

Startale (2 – 0) NS HoSeo


Game Three –
[image loading]
2/5
+ Show Spoiler +
ST_Bomber vs NSH_Sage – Metropolis

Sage opened with a Nexus first build on Metropolis, and then defended it beautifully against Bomber's early attack of marines, marauders, hellions, and SCVs. That gave him a ten harvester lead going into the mid-game, something that could snowball if he could ride it out.

Bomber knew he had to do something to get back on even positioning, and he achieved it with a four-marauder drop. Even though Sage had Stalkers circling his base, there wasn't enough firepower to take down the medivac before it unloaded the marauders. One they were down, the stalkers were toast. Bomber took out some probes as well, and the situation was roughly even.

Sage decided he would try to go for his own attack after that, trying an immortal + gateway units attack at Bomber's natural. However, it turned out to be quite a bad decision as Sage completely misjudged the relative army strengths, trading rather poorly.

The game progressed into the late-game with Bomber in a very nice position, having a slightly larger army and being not far behind on upgrades. Sage had opted for colossi tech instead of templars, but didn't have many colossi to show for it.

It all came down to one big battle in the middle of the map as Bomber went on the offensive. Sage dropped some forcefields to trap Bomber's troops, but they ended up trapping too few of the infantry up front before turning into self-defeating barricade for the rest of the army in the back. Also, despite Bomber having only a handful of vikings, Sage's focus fire was found wanting as they were allowed to take down the colossi easily. The end result was an incredibly one-sided victory for Bomber, and Sage conceded defeat.


Winner: Bomber

Startale (3 – 0) NS HoSeo


Game Four –
[image loading]
2/5
+ Show Spoiler +
ST_Bomber vs NSH_San – Calm Before the Storm

After getting three kills, no one could blame Bomber for being a little big arrogant on CBTS. His strategy was to blindly go for triple orbitals and fast upgrades while not give the smallest damn about what his opponent was doing. It proved to be a winning strategy.

San went for a greedy opening as well, going Nexus first. However, instead of continuing to stay greedy like his opponent, he tried to mix in a timing with a warp-prism and four gates to apply a little bit of pressure. Unfortunately, Bomber was perfectly prepared, and San was forced to back off without doing anything.

Though he didn't lose any troops, San found himself slightly behind compared to Bomber who was racing straight for the late game. It made all the difference in the game, as San was just seconds away from having Storm when Bomber crashed into San's natural with his completed late-game army. Gateway units did pitifully against the glob of infantry, which even had better upgrades than the Protoss.

San barely survived the first attack (which was accompanied by courteous mules and much dancing), but couldn't withstand the next wave. Bomber moved on to try for the first five-man all-kill.


Winner: Bomber

Startale (4 – 0) NS HoSeo


Game Five –
[image loading]
2/5
+ Show Spoiler +
ST_Bomber vs NSH_Jjakji – Dual Sight

Earlier in the series, Bomber had celebrated one of his wins by walking over to the Hoseo bench and pointing at Jjakji. Finally, he would get his wish.

The early builds got a little bit mixed up, but both players ended up getting expansions fairly quickly. Jjakji did what amounted to a siege tank expand with late stim, while Bomber went for late tanks and a lot of early infantry.

Jjakji's stim ended up being so late, that Bomber couldn't resist trying an attack. Seeing just two tanks defending Jjakji's natural, Bomber decided to go for the bust with stimmed marines and marauders. It could have been a straight up game winning move – Bomber forced SCVs to be pulled and killed quite a few – but Bomber's refusal to focus fire tanks allowed Jjkaji to hold on.

It followed that Bomber's army was quite larger after an ensuing build-up period, and it looked like that Jjakji was going to have to fight extremely well to win as both armies started to depart their home bases.

However, the multiple lanes of Dual Sight turned the game into a base-race instead of a deathball fight – and as with deathball fights, the bigger army won the day. Bomber was able to crush Jjakji's defenses with more than enough left over to clean up his main, while back at home he scrapped together a defense to put an end to Jjakji's army.

Jjakji surrendered, handing Bomber the first 5 – 0 all kill in GSTL history.


Winner: Bomber

Startale (5 – 0) NS HoSeo


Game Six –
[image loading]
1.5/5
+ Show Spoiler +
Startale won 5 – 0.


Game Seven –
[image loading]
2.5/5
+ Show Spoiler +
Startale won 5 – 0.


Game Eight –
[image loading]
2/5
+ Show Spoiler +
Startale won 5 – 0.


Game Nine –
[image loading]
3.5/5
+ Show Spoiler +
Startale won 5 – 0.


Overall results
+ Show Spoiler +
Bomber > Sting
Bomber > Seal
Bomber > Sage
Bomber > San
Bomber > Jjakji

Startale 5 – 0 NS HoSeo


Incredible Miracle

Team SCV Life


Game One – IM_Yoda vs TSL_Shine –
[image loading]
1/5
+ Show Spoiler +
Bel'Shir Beach Winter

Yoda opened up with a two rax build, hiding one of his barracks in his main before floating it down to the low ground. On the other hand, Shine went for a hatch-pool build that wasn't super greedy, but ended up allowing a bunker to complete in his natural anyway.

Shine's decision was to wait, wait, and keeping waiting. However, after two bunkers went up safely it became apparent that he had simply waited too long. Yoda was able to kill off the hatchery, as well as a considerable amount of zerglings before Shine was able to clear out the marines and bunkers.

A sloppy lowered supply depot allowed Shine to pull back slightly with a speedling attack, but Yoda was already too far ahead for it to matter. He had more SCVs, and a second orbital up before Shine started building his hatchery again.

Yoda played rather sloppily in the following minutes, but it didn't matter. He kept flinging units Shine's way, and eventually the TSL Zerg was forced to fold.


Winner: IM_Yoda

Incredible Miracle (1 – 0) Team SCV Life


Game Two –
[image loading]
1/5
+ Show Spoiler +
IM_Yoda vs TSL_Revival – Cloud Kingdom

Both players let each other sit back and do whatever they wanted, and the result was that what Revival wanted to do was way worse than Yoda.

Yoda played a greedy reactor hellion triple orbital build, while Revival did some bizarre two base roach infestor build. Somehow, despite having gone for a build that stayed on two base for a while, he managed to lose his third to a mid-game marine tank timing, which came before any infestors were out.

Behind in economy and army, Revival then lost all of his infestors after getting baited into attacking Yoda's fourth base, where he was sandwiched by an even bigger Terran army. Yoda then attacked and won the game.


Winner: IM_Yoda

Incredible Miracle (2 – 0) Team SCV Life


Game Three –
[image loading]
2/5
+ Show Spoiler +
IM_Yoda vs TSL_Cyrano – Calm Before the Storm

With both players left to their own devices once more, Yoda came out on top again with a superior plan. He performed what can be described as a "no-stim marine-tank timing with neo-steel upgraded bunkers." Yoda caught Cyrano at great timing before he had zealot speed, archons, or storm, and set up shop right outside Cyrano's base. Then, he plopped down a gazillion upgraded bunkers and began to push into Cyrano's base.

Did the bunkers actually make a difference? It's hard to say, as Yoda's attack timing hadn't really relied on bunkers, just the number of marines and tanks he got out at a certain time. Once he did get the bunkers down though, it made his push that much harder to break, and Cyrano GG'd out after a futile attempt to bust it.


Winner: IM_Yoda

Incredible Miracle (3 – 0) Team SCV Life


Game Four –
[image loading]
2/5
+ Show Spoiler +
IM_Yoda vs TSL_Symbol – Daybreak

Symbol looked a class apart from his TSL teammates as he clinically dismantled Yoda. He opened with some well measured roach pressure to force a lengthy lift of Yoda's fast expand, while at the same time droning up heavily and taking a third base. When Yoda massed enough MM tank to try a little bit of early-mid pressure, Symbol easily crushed it with his mass upgraded speedlings, buying him the time to transition seamlessly into ling-festor while teching to hive.

Symbol didn't even need ultralisks to finish the game, as he went for a huge ling/festor + baneling drop attack, which absolutely annihilated Yoda as he greedily tried to take a fourth base. A continued stream of zerglings sealed the game for Symbol, who tossed in 30 drones as payback for Yoda's many manner mules in previous matches.

Winner: TSL_Symbol

Incredible Miracle (3 – 1) Team SCV Life


Game Five –
[image loading]
4/5
+ Show Spoiler +
IM_Seed vs TSL_Symbol – Entombed Valley

The early game featured a sharp back and forth between the contestants. Symbol tried some early roach-ling pressure to see if he could punish Seed's one-gate expansion, but Seed had a void ray out just in time to defend himself. Seed then went on the counter offensive, but erred on the side of caution and withdrew after seeing that Symbol would be able to defend.

The next few minutes passed by mostly uneventfully, with both players allowing the other to build up. Symbol went for a strong mixed army with lings, roaches, infestors, and baneling bombs, while Seed had your usual deathball stuff. Symbol was able to catch Seed in a wide open position in the middle twice, and won engagements with some good fungal+baneling bomb combos. However, Seed wasn't completely committed to those attacks, and continued to expand along his side of the map.

The game tilted in Seed's favor when Symbol tried a big attack into Seed's fourth base, only to get massacred in the bottleneck. Seed regrouped and went on a counter-offensive with a newly summoned mothership, and it looked like he had all the tools to massacre Symbol. However, a mismanaged battle immediately turned the tables again.

Symbol had a mixed army with many high DPS Zerg units; lings, hydras, infestors, brood lords, and ultralisks. Seed dropped a vortex to banish the ultras temporarily, during which time he tried to blink his stalkers ahead to finish off the brood lords. However, he didn't have the positioning or DPS to remove all of the brood lords in time, and ended up having a huge amount of ultralisks pop up against his out of position army. A promising battle turned into a complete rout for Seed, and Symbol capitalized with an immediate remax and flood of zerglings.

Having lost his core army, Seed couldn't deal with the continuing stream of Zerg troops. Symbol wiped out all of Seed's bases with remaining minerals, and secured another victory.


Winner: TSL_Symbol

Incredible Miracle (3 – 2) Team SCV Life


Game Six –
[image loading]
1.5/5
+ Show Spoiler +
IM_Mvp vs TSL_Symbol – Antiga Shipyard

Going up against Mvp, Symbol had not one, but two aggressive moves prepared.

The first one was an early roach-baneling bust, which he decided to abandon at the last second (recovering money by cancelling morphing banes) when he found that Mvp had gone for quick siege mode.

The second one was a speed-roach + baneling drop attack, a strategy that DRG had used to great effect vs MMA in their Blizzard Cup match. Also, it happened to be a strategy that Mvp crushed with ease when Lucky tried it against him Code S.

Symbol inherited Lucky's fate instead of DRG's. An almost comically maphack-esque scan discovered all of Symbols morphing banelings, roaches, and gathered overlords, and Mvp turtled up like a man in no great hurry to attack.

Symbol tried to go for the attack anyway, and walked/dropped into one of the bloodiest meatgrinders in GSL history, and GG'd immediately after.


Winner: Mvp

Incredible Miracle (4 – 2) Team SCV Life


Game Seven –
[image loading]
1.5/5
+ Show Spoiler +
IM_Mvp vs TSL_Polt – Dual Sight

With a chance to close out the series, Mvp shook off his bad form from Code S with an impressive victory over Polt. Polt went for a barracks-FE with a focus on infantry, delaying his medivacs and tanks. Mvp went for a banshee expand, but Polt anticipated this move and fended off the banshees while only taking minimal damage.

Yet, somehow, despite having expanded in the meanwhile, Mvp put together a deadly, dare I say, 1/1/1 push that hit when Polt was at his very weakest. With stimpak and medivacs less than a minute away for Polt, Mvp took up position with tanks, marines, and a handful of banshees right below Polt's ramp. From this advantageous position, he was able to rip apart Polt's attempt to bust out with stim and medivacs.

Polt managed to stay in the game for a few more minutes than he needed to, but the result was never in question. Mvp had proved his excellence once more, and gave his team the win.

Winner: Mvp

Incredible Miracle (5 – 2) Team SCV Life


Game Eight –
[image loading]
3/5
+ Show Spoiler +
IM won 5 – 2


Game Nine –
[image loading]
2.5/5
+ Show Spoiler +
IM won 5 – 2


Overall results
+ Show Spoiler +
Yoda > Shine
Yoda > Revival
Yoda > Cyrano
Yoda < Symbol
Seed < Symbol
Mvp > Symbol
Mvp > Polt

IM 5 – 2 TSL

Sea[Shield] and the Team(only) Player

by Waxangel

Spoilers from this week's games inside.

After Bomber's 5 – 0 beatdown of NS HoSeo, on the tail of an ugly 1 – 4 elimination from Code S two weeks ago, I can't help but be reminded of a certain Brood War pro: Yum "Sea" Bo Seong. Wait, who?

In 2006, Sea led the financially challenged but feisty MBCGame Hero to a Proleague championship. Unlike any of the team competition we've seen in Starcraft II so far, Proleague consists of hundreds of games played over a yearlong season, similar to leagues for other sports. Over the 2006 season, Sea had a record of 15 wins and 6 losses, and often anchored his team as its 'ace.' Sea did not lose a single game in the playoffs, and clinched the championship for his team by winning in game seven of the grand finals. In the same period, Sea competed in three individual leagues (two OSLs, WCG Korea qualifier), and was eliminated from all three before the quarter-finals.

[image loading]
Sea rallies the troops – photo: NeverGG

You can see where this is going. Ever since he debuted through an incredible Code A run in May of 2011, Bomber's career has been a story of unfulfilled expectations. Bomber is excellent in Code A, foreign tournaments, GSTL and up-down matches. There, he shows the kind of play that we would expect to see from a Code S champion. Yet, when he actually does play in Code S, he just cannot get past the RO8.

There are some key differences in the types of competition available to them, but the resemblance Bomber has is more with the archetype of player Sea represents than Sea himself. A player who has extraordinary skill and can beat anyone in the world, as long as it's not in top flight, Korean singles competition.

It's fascinating that such a type of player exists. The easiest way to explain it is by saying it's down to 'nerves,' which for all its use as a convenient, blanket excuse, is pretty valid. Many pro-gamers have said that pro-gaming is at least half a mental game, and the poor play of otherwise good players in pressure situations is testament to that. Code S, in particular, seems to have a special aura that makes people play below their standards, and Bomber isn't the only Code A phenom to stumble in Code S. It's the other way around for some players. Playing for themselves only, they don't feel enough pressure. Only when they have the expectations of their teammates on their shoulders, do they feel that they must play 100%.

Another part of it is type of preparation. Top Korean singles competition is defined by the long period between matches that gives players ages to prepare. Bomber's blitz through MLG Raleigh, or multi-kill runs in GSTL show that he's great at playing off the cuff. But when you play in Code S, you're in an environment full of so many meticulously planned build orders and cheeses that ten out of twelve finals ended up being borderline unwatchable. For instance, I'm not convinced that MMA was the player with the best micro, macro, or decision making during Code S October, where he won his championship. But he was definitely the most prepared player, and for that, he deserved his Code S trophy.

Of course, there's also just dumb luck. HongUn definitely did some things better than Bomber to make it to the semi-finals of Code S July while Bomber stopped in the RO8 (the famous choke reverse sweep against Byun). Still, you can't say his mentality and preparation were so much better than Bomber's. He had to get a bit lucky as well.

It's one thing to be good at Starcraft II. You need an appropriate combination of the above (and some other stuff) to be good at the one specific kind of Starcraft II known as Code S. Yet, the way Starcraft II culture has developed in the past year or so, the two have erroneously come to be seen as almost equivalent. That's something that needs to change.

The beauty of the team league is that Sea will be remembered as one of the best players of all time. He's been stopped at the RO16 ten odd times in the OSL, but no one will tell you he didn't play Brood War very well, nor will anyone try to tell you he wasn't a successful player. He contributed to his team in a way few players have in the history of Brood War, and he receives due recognition for the fact.

Now, Bomber's been around for less than a year, so I'm not going to say he's never going figure out how to get it done in Code S. But even if Code S stays out of his reach for the rest of his career, and his domain stays limited to all competitions outside of it, it's a better world where his career won't be defined more heavily by disappointment in one tournament over his many achievements in others. There's different kinds of Starcraft II outside Code S, and that many different kinds of Starcraft II to be good at.

As it stands now, the Code S type of Starcraft is disproportionately important. So yes, you could call Bomber a disappointment in Starcraft II so far. But hopefully, that's something the GSTL will change in time. For the Bomber of the present, and the others to come.










Writer: Waxangel.
Graphics: Pathy.
Editor: Waxangel.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 12:48:37
February 04 2012 12:43 GMT
#2
Sea <3 MBC 4eva
On less fanboyish terms, I would love to see GSTL become an actual league instead of some flimsy knockout tournament, save that for platyoffs, I want regular team action. Let the coach decide whether you are a good player, not whether you've had a bad day and knocked out day 1 of code A, never to be seen again.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
February 04 2012 12:47 GMT
#3
Bomber drops some bombs <3
Go go go IM you can win it all
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
February 04 2012 12:51 GMT
#4
An almost comically maphack-esque scan


Best description of MVP's scans that I've seen right there.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
February 04 2012 12:51 GMT
#5
Great read once again, I miss sea
FoTG fighting!
Maur
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain63 Posts
February 04 2012 13:05 GMT
#6
yay for Sea reference. I don't get why Gom still hasn't created a bigger teamleague or introduced a no-allkill format. I know most people like it and such but i think gom should expand it's teamleague and use another format, it would help other players get recognition and teams getting sponsors
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 04 2012 13:07 GMT
#7
Great read, hopefully Bomber is REALLY back and can make to a semifinal soon
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
February 04 2012 13:07 GMT
#8
On February 04 2012 21:51 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Great read once again, I miss sea


Sea is still around, just on Team 8.

Good article. Interesting to pull the comparison out. For a while and for some people, DRG was often contrasted with Sea and Leta (I believe Team Liquid made that statement), being only successful in team leagues until his MLG and Blizzard cup runs. It would be cool to have some more comparisons later on; though just don't overdo it.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 04 2012 13:24 GMT
#9
Happy to see the good performance from Bomber.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
February 04 2012 13:25 GMT
#10
Drop them bombs Bomber! nice read onces again <3
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 04 2012 13:33 GMT
#11
On February 04 2012 22:05 Maur wrote:
yay for Sea reference. I don't get why Gom still hasn't created a bigger teamleague or introduced a no-allkill format. I know most people like it and such but i think gom should expand it's teamleague and use another format, it would help other players get recognition and teams getting sponsors


It's because GOM considers it a side-event, where as the GSL is what everyone wants to watch.

Making GSTL the main focus would cost them quite a bit of viewership, because there are no foreign teams that are stationed (entirely) in S. Korea so they can't attract foreign viewers like they would with Code S seeds.
Liquipedia"Expert"
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
February 04 2012 13:36 GMT
#12
Thank you so much Waxangel for these recaps. They are truly extremely helpful and insightful!

I'll make sure to watch the crap out of the coming GSTL matches ;D
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
rod-
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway379 Posts
February 04 2012 13:47 GMT
#13
It was good to see mvp dominating again, that scan just showed how smart he is, and even smarter was it to leave his main force at the choke.
IMmvp~~
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 04 2012 13:51 GMT
#14
I miss last season of GSTL. I enjoyed that format 100x more than this new format, but it happens. Loved the Sea article, specially since I just recently watched a Sayle cast where he talked about poor Sea.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
February 04 2012 14:34 GMT
#15
On February 04 2012 21:43 Lyter wrote:
Sea <3 MBC 4eva.

I hope we sea him back on top form soon, even if it isn't for MBC .
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50386 Posts
February 04 2012 14:45 GMT
#16
I was expecting the man with 3 buttocks but the story of Sea is better.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
February 04 2012 15:28 GMT
#17
They should have a similar format as individual leagues for up and coming teams, like code a and s but for teams.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
February 04 2012 15:37 GMT
#18
Now because of the title all i can think of is Python by Dodge & Fuski :/
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 16:32:04
February 04 2012 16:30 GMT
#19
Haven't been impressed by a TL SC2 writeup for a while. That Sea comparison is a nice change of pace.
Thank God and gunrun.
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
February 04 2012 16:53 GMT
#20
Everyone who has ever competed in anything knows that the mental game is the biggest influence on who wins.
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 130
ProTech89
JuggernautJason88
ForJumy 38
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 570
Mini 320
Dewaltoss 160
Backho 63
Dota 2
Fuzer 230
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1034
Stewie2K421
Super Smash Bros
PPMD33
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu467
Other Games
summit1g5345
Grubby4049
FrodaN1141
Beastyqt527
Hui .228
ToD188
C9.Mang0116
Trikslyr71
NeuroSwarm70
Nathanias8
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 12
• Dystopia_ 2
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 33
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3776
• masondota21480
League of Legends
• TFBlade761
Other Games
• imaqtpie1002
• WagamamaTV342
• Shiphtur243
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 35m
PiGosaur Monday
3h 35m
LiuLi Cup
14h 35m
OSC
22h 35m
RSL Revival
1d 13h
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
1d 16h
RSL Revival
2 days
Zoun vs Classic
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Online Event
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.