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MK4512
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada938 Posts
February 05 2012 01:42 GMT
#61
The part on Sea described why I use MLG (and not only GSL) as a true measure of a person's skill, because when given so much time to prepare, build orders wins/uncounterable play happens so often
Chill: "Please let us know when you will be streaming yourself eating a hat so I can put it on the calendar. Thanks."
Tomba
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway106 Posts
February 05 2012 03:49 GMT
#62
Liked the Monty Python reference!
Velinath
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States694 Posts
February 05 2012 04:57 GMT
#63
Monty Python is the best thing.

Also, I really liked the article regarding Sea. It's an interesting point, and I'll have to keep my eye out for more players like that.
Reval
Profile Joined January 2012
United States297 Posts
February 05 2012 05:27 GMT
#64
Well I definatly didn't see that coming.
ZRand
Profile Joined September 2011
38 Posts
February 05 2012 06:02 GMT
#65
Great games definitely :DD
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 07:24:12
February 05 2012 07:20 GMT
#66
I disagree that Code S is weighed too heavily when people consider player skill. I think it still isn't weighed heavily enough as shown by everyone saying Nestea wasn't going to get out of his group. He got Ro16 Code S last season and that should have been enough to make him the favorite along with MVP but everyone was looking at his recently MLG/Blizz Cup performance and said he wouldn't get out. Then there are things like IPL's power ranking having Stephano in top 5 and a bunch of foreigners who got knocked out in first round of Code A or Code S in the top 25.

On February 05 2012 02:40 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We need to have these for the IPL TAC. Not only is it a better-run tournament, but it has better casters, better teams, and is generally awesome. If TeamLiquid could give it some hype, then I think we could really be able to celebrate a teamleague!


Omg I hope you are joking. None of that is true.
farside604
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada127 Posts
February 05 2012 07:25 GMT
#67
Wow I wished I would have stayed up to watch the all-kill from Bomber, the first match looks epic anyways
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12173 Posts
February 05 2012 08:07 GMT
#68
Isn't another explanation for players like Sea solid mechanics but poor mind games. They win when the opponent can't prepare just for them for a week, when the opponent is prepared they lose.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
February 05 2012 08:53 GMT
#69
One more thing about BOMBER is that he has the highest ELO vs protoss of any sc2 player even after his Code S demise. Crrazzzzzyyy good against protoss.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
February 05 2012 18:27 GMT
#70
On February 05 2012 10:42 MK4512 wrote:
The part on Sea described why I use MLG (and not only GSL) as a true measure of a person's skill, because when given so much time to prepare, build orders wins/uncounterable play happens so often


But preparing builds has a lot to do with creativity and skill. You can't really argue that one is a better measure of skill than another, because they're so different.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
February 05 2012 19:02 GMT
#71
Wow I bet on startale but I didn't expect Bomber to unload such dominance as that!
Thanks for the highlights, Ive been too busy to catch gstl this week and always appreciate the write up.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
skb_
Profile Joined February 2012
United States3 Posts
February 05 2012 21:57 GMT
#72
TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:An almost comically maphack-esque scan discovered all of Symbols morphing banelings, roaches, and gathered overlords, and Mvp turtled up like a man in no great hurry to attack.


Legend didn't catch it, but he scanned because he was sending a drop to Symbol's 3rd and caught a glimpse of the army. That drop was actually what won Mvp the game - Symbol's army was out of position to defend and he was definitely going to lose the 3rd base. So he basically had no choice but to try and kill Mvp's army (Mvp knew this, that's why he turtled on the low ground and didn't try to defend his main).
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 23:12:00
February 05 2012 23:10 GMT
#73
On February 05 2012 10:42 MK4512 wrote:
The part on Sea described why I use MLG (and not only GSL) as a true measure of a person's skill, because when given so much time to prepare, build orders wins/uncounterable play happens so often

Huh not sure if you can make that distinction that well. Don't you remember when the slayers terrains came up with the elevator play with hellions and marines or when naniwa did 1 build against zerg every game
Gameplay > Personality
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
February 06 2012 04:23 GMT
#74
great write up especially about Sea.
Thanks
Learn,live and love it.
randomsaint
Profile Joined December 2011
42 Posts
February 06 2012 11:27 GMT
#75
I'm not sure if someone already mentioned it, but MVP's seemingly insane scan on Symbol was because a dropship passed by close enough to see some of the roaches. I still don't know why Symbol didn't just check to see if the main was naked (which it was) and then drop there instead of saying "ok MVP you win."
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 06 2012 12:17 GMT
#76
Finally got to watch the IM v. TSL games. So sad for TSL, although when Symbol finally took out Yoda in such a boss way, it was so inspiring to see the manner drones and banelings waltzing into Yoda's main.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
skb_
Profile Joined February 2012
United States3 Posts
February 06 2012 12:18 GMT
#77
On February 06 2012 20:27 randomsaint wrote:
I'm not sure if someone already mentioned it, but MVP's seemingly insane scan on Symbol was because a dropship passed by close enough to see some of the roaches. I still don't know why Symbol didn't just check to see if the main was naked (which it was) and then drop there instead of saying "ok MVP you win."


He didn't have enough overlords (only 11 were with the army)...If he dropped the main, it would have been with just banes + 4 lings or so and he was guaranteed to lose 2/3 for free with that little marine clump patrolling. That would mean marching speedlings and roaches into the front by themselves. Not that it mattered, he lost his 3rd (to that drop), had to rebuild his Warren, and was behind 51-73 on workers...it was already checkmate at this point.
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 17:15:04
February 06 2012 17:00 GMT
#78
Nice read.. Longest sc2 article that I've read in it's entirety to date . I'd like slightly longer game descriptions ( I don't have a pass so I will never beable to watch those videos, and since free VODs is a lost concept for the gsl/gstl... ), also probably not the best to say who wins in the first sentence, but other than that, as said previously: nice read !
rabiddog
Profile Joined April 2011
United States25 Posts
February 06 2012 18:58 GMT
#79
you have great writing skills good sir. great read! thanks!
Dreamin' dreamin' dreamin' of this chicken bone... Roast it well with Cajun sauce.
ChiIIgetoutGG
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada101 Posts
February 06 2012 21:48 GMT
#80
Great write-up, such a beautiful piece as it speaks much truth.
Sea is my favorite SC player personality-wise and style as well!
"Seriously quit this business already, you are immature, not even good caster and TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR GENDER."
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