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[GSL] Code S S1 - Protoss Hope?

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[GSL] Code S S1 - Protoss Hope?

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January 17th, 2012 23:54 GMT
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Group F in Review


By: Waxangel


Group F: (T)MVPsC, (P)EGJYP, (Z)MVPDongRaeGu, (P)MVPGenius

Match One: sC vs JYP

Game One –

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Metropolis

At first, it looked like JYP's PvT redemption quest was off to a good start. He opened with a greedy Nexus first build and easily thwarted a reaper rush from sC. Afterwards, he followed up with a little bit of four gate pressure into a well-timed third base. Against sC's Reaper expand, it seemed that JYP had taken up a solid economic lead.

However, everything fell apart for JYP once sC started attacking. sC's build saw his Reaper expand turn into a very tight 1/1 upgraded Marine-Medivac-Marauder timing, and he did an excellent dual pronged strike into JYP's third base as he double dropped the main. Though JYP had the troop numbers to repel both attacks, he lost focus and failed to defend either location. Force fields were late, Zealots got stuck behind Stalkers, and JYP's army couldn't do half as much damage as it should have.

With over 30 Probes dead and his main and third base gone, JYP was forced to GG.

Winner: sC
Game Two –
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Daybreak

JYP attempted a Nexus first build one more time, but was thwarted by sC's fast scout and offensive Engineering Bay. This forced JYP to make his Nexus at the spot where he would typically make his third base; a strange position for any Protoss player. Instead of exploiting this with an army cheese, sC decided to take advantage of the situation with more of an 'economic cheese.' Expecting JYP to play extremely defensively while trying to secure his natural as well, sC simply went for an extremely fast double expansion build. As it turned out, everything went according to sC's plan, and he went up to three bases against JYP's three bases.

After getting up some gateways off of his three bases, JYP went in for a terribly misjudged attack that swung the game heavily in sC's favor. After adding a few Ghosts, sC was able to take his superior army and take down JYP's third, all the while expanding to even more bases.

It looked like JYP was hopelessly behind, but he was able to slowly crawl back into the game by playing defensively and creating a splash damage death-ball. Though sC held more bases, JYP still had a powerful near maxed out army and a reasonable three mining bases (which is all you really need). However, sC knew exactly how to bust a Protoss in that situation.

sC performed an extremely impressive four-pronged attack, with three drops into various Protoss bases while a huge ground force attacked head-on. Much like the first game in the series, JYP wasn't able to deal with any of the attacks very effectively, resulting in the Protoss army getting split up and defeated on every front. sC received a very well-earned GG from his opponent.

Winner: sC


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sC won 2-0.


Match Two: DongRaeGu vs Genius

Game One –
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Antiga Shipyard

In the first team-kill game of the night, everything played out in a fairly standard manner: Genius Forge FE'd, DRG double expanded. Genius went for a Gateway timing off two bases, DRG made Roaches and tried to defend. Genius had good force-fields, DRG couldn't really do much about it except press the R and Z keys some more.

All said and done, DRG ended up losing his third base and a significant but not catastrophic number of units. Genius was able to retreat and take his third base safely afterwards and wait until he had Blink and Colossi before moving out again. DRG was still in the game, but the pressure was on him to survive the very scary deathball.

DRG tried to use Mutalisks and Zergling backdoor attacks to buy himself time and force Genius to retreat, but Genius was ahead enough that he could afford to leave some troops behind to defend. DRG went for broke with an all-in backdoor attack, but only saw his army evaporate after a patient and calm Genius retreated back to defend. DRG admitted defeat and GG'd out of the first game.

Winner: Genius


Game Two –
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Bel'Shir Beach

After a two base timing attack in game one, Genius changed it up by going for a quick third base on Bel'Shir Beach. DongRaeGu's plan was similar, getting fast third base, and then a fourth after he realized that Genius was going to be focusing on his economy as well.

The game was marked by patience and resilience from Genius, who didn't really feel the need to be terribly aggressive. DRG's aggressive style played into his hands, as he just sat at home and took out a variety of Mutalisk and Roach attacks DRG sent his way. If DRG was trying to shake up Genius, he wasn't doing a very good job. Genius's supply count kept climbing, and DRG's standing army looked more and more outmatched.

Naturally, DRG went for the base trade once Genius decided to move out with an army that looked clearly stronger. They say you never base-trade against Mutas, but at least this one time, the old adage proved to be incorrect. Genius's army had far superior firepower, and he had the foresight to build a large number of cannons at his third base. He had the time to clean up all of DRG's mining bases (and some of his infrastructure), and then return in time to save his last mining Nexus. At that point, DRG was forced to admit defeat once more.

Winner: Genius


Game Three –
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Genius won 2-0.


Winner's Match:

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Genius vs sC


Game One –
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Daybreak

What happens when you play Genius in lategame TvP? You lose the game! Whatever faults Genius may have had in the past, he's always been very good at playing long, macro PvTs. This game was no exception.

sC opened with an FE into 3-Rax Ghost timing, suggesting that a Daybreak game might actually end before there were six mining bases total on the map. However, he took a look at Genius's defenses, and decided that it would be better if they followed the typical pattern and split the map 50/50.

One peculiar part of this process was that Genius stayed on three-bases for quite a while, unconcerned with sC going up to four, then five bases. Only after he blocked off sC's many drops and various forms of harassment did Genius decide he needed to expand to further bases. Since maximum practical income is achieved off just three bases, Genius chose to max-out his army before stretching himself out.

As is typical with most games of this nature, there was a considerable amount of army movement and posturing, but very few actual engagements. sC tried to break the deadlock a few times with nukes, but never really achieved anything. In the meanwhile, Genius showed extreme patience, only taking pokes when he was certain there was very little risk. A warp-prism attack with a few Zealots and one quick Planetary Fortress hit-and-run; that was all.

sC got tired of waiting and decided to press the issue. He got off a strong volley of EMPs in the absence of Observers, which convinced him he had enough of an edge to charge in and attack. However, he did not have as big an advantage as he thought, and it ended up being a wash on both sides. After a few rounds of production, both players were back up to 200/200 and in the same situation as before.

Once again, sC was the one to lose patience first, charging into a fortified position. This time, sC made the mistake of trying to chase Templars too far with Ghosts, which only got his special operatives erased by Colossi. Genius then blanketed the Terran army with storms, winning a crushing victory. Now that he finally had a clear advantage, Genius went on the offensive. Having lost the core of his army, sC was unable to contest the snowballing Protoss deathball and GG'd out.

Winner: Genius


Game Two –
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Bel'Shir Beach

sC went for an unusual Marauder + Reactor Hellion all-in off one base, while Genius went for a 3-Gate Blink Stalker rush. This proved to be a ridiculous build order rock/paper/scissor win for Genius, who won with minimal effort.

Winner: Genius


Game Three –
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Genius won 2-0.


Loser's Match:

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DongRaeGu vs JYP


Game One –
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Daybreak

JYP brought a risky yet creative build, going for a Forge FE followed by a fast third base. His expectation that DRG would take a fast third base as well and forgo early aggression was correct, and it seemed that JYP would take a slight build order advantage. It probably would have been so, against any other Zerg. However, DRG proved that his mastery of Mutalisks and Zerglings was second to none by finding a weakness, and hitting it hard.

JYP re-positioned some Stalkers in response to what looked like some mundane harassment, only to have Zerglings run in and wipe out his unprotected Sentries. With those Sentries gone, he had nothing to stop a continuous stream of Zerg units that alternately attacked the three Protoss bases, always finding their way to the one that was the least defended. After losing many Probes and a Nexus, JYP was put into a tough situation. He decided he would try and attack with what troops he had, but that proved to be a mistake. DongRaeGu just back-doored with his army, removed a large portion of the Protoss base, and was back in time to defend himself. Without an army or economy, JYP GG'd out.

Winner: DongRaeGu


Game Two –
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Metropolis

JYP went for a 4-Gate +1 pressure into a 7-Gate all-in; not a terrible build by any means. However, DRG's perfect reaction made JYP's strategy look futile. Perfectly timed Roaches held off the pressure at the 4-Gate stage, after which he used two backdoor attacks to severely mess with the 7-Gate follow-up timing. JYP's attack failed miserably against DRG's mass Roach and Speedlings, and he was forced to concede defeat.

Winner: DongRaeGu


Game Three –
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DongRaeGu won 2-0.


Final Match:

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DongRaeGu vs sC


Game One –
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Cloud Kingdom

After his Overlord saw a suspiciously early SCV leave sC's base, DRG decided he would just hatch first anyway. Then he sent four Drones to the double-proxy Barracks location and easily stopped the attack before it happened. DRG had a huge economic lead after that, with sC resorting to a devious double-Starport play after taking a belated natural. However, Banshees never saw the light of day as DRG decided he would just end the game with eighteen Banelings. sC had nothing to defend with, and GG'd out quickly.

Winner: DongRaeGu


Game Two –
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Daybreak

DRG was unprepared for sC's double factory, double reactor Hellion build, and had to surrender several drones kills to sC as a result. DRG recovered fairly well for having taken early losses, and went for a Stephano-esque Ling-Infestor plan. However, he was facing a relentless macro-attacker in sC, and he needed to be in 100% shape to stop his continuous waves of Marines and Tanks. DRG put up a better defense than most Zergs could have hoped for, but in the end he was battered down by sC's endless armies.

Winner: sC


Game Three –
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Dual Sight

DongRaeGu correctly read that sC would to try and exploit the wide-open natural on Dual Sight with a Marauder + Hellion timing, and built many Spine Crawlers in preparation. Though it looked like DRG was in danger at certain points, he managed to stave off the attacks without losing any of his crucial drones. From there, he transitioned into another upgraded Ling-Infestor strategy, a strange departure from his familiar use of Muta-ling.

However, fans of DRG had no need to worry as he showed the same degree of ZvT dominance with a ground-centric combination as well. From Ling-Infestor, DongRaeGu went up to Ultralisks. Though they've been widely panned as a shortcut to losing, DongRaeGu showed how powerful they could be in the right hands. With fungals to tie down sC's army and Banelings to erase Marines, Ultras performed their role as tanky powerhouses beautifully. sC was totally overwhelmed, and GG'd out of the game.

Winner: DongRaeGu



Notes and Comments


Wins come in fours: Perhaps Genius felt a twinge of jealousy upon seeing the Protoss President welcomed back by hordes of fans. 2-1, and 5-4 on map scores? What an amateur. Genius clinched first place in his group with four straight games against championship caliber opposition. That marks the third time Genius has had a 4-0 day (to my knowledge, a GSL record). On the other two occasions, he ran through four members of NS HoSeo in GSTL, and his entire Up-Down group to make it into the current Code S tournament.

It's been hard to figure out Genius as a player. For the longest time, we thought he had plateaued as a RO16 level Protoss player. He was solid enough to be mediocre, without a real spark to be great. He admitted as much in an interview, saying he had been unmotivated and content to retain Code S in the old format. Things might have changed.

Being consistent will keep you in tournaments, but being streaky will allow you to win them. What will the future hold for Genius?

Art Nouveau: Stephano is widely acclaimed as the player who popularized the double-evo Zergling + Infestor style, and the player who achieved the best results using that style as well. Though Stephano might be the face of this style, DongRaeGu's recent play makes me think that the young Frenchman might only be second best. Starting back in Arena of Legends III (King of Kongs), DongRaeGu used the so-called 'Stephano' style with brutal effectiveness. It's a difficult style, requiring great mechanics and map awareness to maintain map control and security without any sort of anti-air units. With some of the best mechanics in the West, Stephano made it work very well. So I suppose it's no surprise the Zerg with the best mechanics in the world is making it work for him as well.

In the finals of King of Kongs, DRG made MKP's famous Marine micro completely useless as he fungaled and swarmed his way to victory. The game against sC on Dual Sight looked like a repeat of those MKP games, where he used a quartet of Ultras, Lings, Banes, and Infestors to take apart the Terran army in record time. Seeing that DRG is already a master of Muta-Ling-Bane, it's scary where DRG could go with even more styles available to him.

Lamenting the macro map (Daybreak sucks): Move aside Terminus. I've found a new map where I can fast-forward to the eleven minute mark in every game. To an almost scary lack of exception, Daybreak means three base. While other TL staffers thought Daybreak was good enough to be map of the year, personally I'm finding the lack of variation on the map to be a pretty boring. Sure, the numbers say it's one of the most balanced maps in competitive play, and I like that for the players. But as a viewer, the horribly imbalanced Dual Sight 1.0 provided some much more entertaining, epic games.

It's funny, because as a reaction to a lot of early pro-SC II games ending far too early, the earliest non-Blizzard maps were all created to be very macro centric. Terminus, Crevasse, Tal'Darim Altar, etc. To a lesser extent, Dual Sight, Bel'Shir, and Daybreak have ended up in that direction as well (Dual Sight and Bel'Shir had to be made more three base friendly, because Zerg was owning too much face). I'm proud of Cloud Kingdom crossing the ocean and becoming part of the GSL map pool, but it's still one that's interpreted as an "Oh it's far too long to rush, let me take three bases and turtle." map (Leenock proxy-hatches not withstanding).

Now that we've seen a ton of macro games, and ton of boring macro games, might it be time for a change?



Code S, Group G Preview


By: Fionn

Protoss Hype Train 2012.

Group G: (T)aLive, (P)SlayerS_Brown, (T)IMHappy, (T)MarineKingPrime


(T)aLive

Breaking News: Alive seems to be gone from TSL and is without team for the time being, but he will still be competing in this season's Code S after a strong showing last season, getting all the way to the quarterfinals for the first time before bombing out in embarrassing fashion against Leenock. He didn't show up for GSTL profile shooting, his Twitter name is sans the "TSL," and even GomTV.net has him listed as teamless.

Let's get this out of the way right now, friends. Alive is really, really, really good. I cannot stress enough how good this guy is when he is actually playing at his highest level. Along with MarineKing (we'll get to him later), Polt and Byun, Alive is one of the Ladder Gods in Korea, usually atop of the ladder for most of the season. This season is no exception, currently 1st in Korea with fifty more points than the second place player. When Alive is on his game, Alive is one of the best players in the entire world.

You can see flashes of brilliance when he plays at times in the GSL. He looked spectacular in the Round of 16 last season, going in strong against a weary Leenock in the quarterfinals who just got home after running the gauntlet at the MLG National Championships. It wasn't a lock for Alive to win that series, but he it was disappointing that he lost. What happened when Alive played Leenock last season is what has always been holding Alive back: his nerves.

Alive tried a cheese in the first game. It failed. Alive tilted. Alive then fell apart in the next two games, getting wiped out of the GSL without putting up much a fight. A lot of people say that MarineKing has the weakest mental strength of the GSL players, but to me, at this moment, I would put him second behind Alive. Someone with this much talent and skill should be known by more people. When you look at a group, Alive should be the player that makes casual viewers go, 'Wow, Alive is playing today! This is going to be awesome!'

Going into this group, Alive might be the least hyped or talked about player of the four, but if you asked me who has the best pure skill out of the four in this group, I would honestly say Alive. He's that damn good when he plays at his potential. Though, sadly, when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter how good you are on ladder or in certain games if you can't be consistent. With the probable changing of teams, this could be a new start for Alive. Will he become the consistent Terran force that he is capable of or will we see the same Alive that crumbled in the quarterfinals of the November season?


(P)SlayerSBrown

Can he do it? We've been down this road many a time, friends. Seed, Yonghwa, Alicia, Sage, Puzzle, Oz. All have been hyped up (captained by Artosis), and they have all at one time or another been the player that could have become the Hero of Aiur. Protoss has not made a final since Nestea wiped the floor with Inca in May of last year. Protoss has not had a GSL champion since MC all the way back in March of last year. This season, like many before, a new Protoss has been put before us with a lot of potential, and just like many time before, Artosis has said that this player is special and should be someone to watch out for.

Brown got into Code A without much fanfare. He was just another one of the guys from the SlayerS camp kicking ass in the qualifiers and qualifying for GSL. Going into his first series against Superstar in November, there still was not a lot of hype. He played well, but no one was really predicting that this guy was going to get into Code S. But he kept winning. He kept becoming more impressive with each set he played. By the time he vortexed Losira's army in Code A and got into Code S without losing a single game, a new Protoss Hype Hero was born.

There are a lot of expectations for Brown going into this tournament. When a month ago, no one even knew about Brown, he is now one of the most talked about players going into this season. His first two wins, over Superstar and Ryung were dominant, but neither player were Code S level when it came to vP. Losira was his only true test that made people start hyping him up, and Losira wasn't even able to make it into Code S this season.

So, what are you betting on, TeamLiquid? Will Brown be another Alicia? A hyped Protoss, expected to do great things, but falling from grace in a blink of the eye, straight into the depths of hell known as Code A and B? Or, will, somehow, someway, this Protoss from Slayers rise above the Artosis Protoss curse, make a trip down the Royal Road and live up to this new found hype following him?


(T)IMHappy

MiniVP continues to be one of the most underrated players in the Starcraft universe, continuing to be consistent and improving under his mentor MVP. His mech play has to be considered the second best in the world behind MVP's, only rivaled by oGs' SuperNova. Happy has actually brought a lot of new mech builds to the GSL, showing the power of different unit compositions and taking his opponents off their feet with his innovative play.

Sadly, for Happy, his strongest match-up, TvZ, which is at a ridiculous 15-2, will not be showcased on Thursday, having to play against two Terran and a Protoss. Take away his amazing TvZ, and he is only 50% against the other two races, even though he has had strong performances against tough opponents like DongRaeGu, MC and Genius, beating all three in the past few months in Korea. For Happy to get out of this group, he will need to use his mech style to his advantage against the more bio-prone players in Alive and MarineKing. MVP has shown that, when played correctly, mech should beat bio, but it'll be a hard test against two of the best bionic users in the world.


(T)MarineKingPrime

It's been a long time, MarineKing. Ever since the Super Tournament, MarineKing hasn't made a Round of 16 in any of the regular GSL's (not counting Code A) and hasn't been in a GSL final since his second loss to MVP almost a year ago. It finally feels like MarineKing is getting back in form, doing decently in both HomeStory and the Arena of Legends, and playing well in the past Code A season, getting past his idol Boxer in the final round, making a gigantic comeback in the third game of that set to get back into GSL.

I think Happy is the worst match-up MarineKing could have drawn in the first round. His mech play is patient and could frustrate MarineKing. If MKP wants to advance from this group, he's going to have to have some strong strategies planned and not jump into tank lines. If he can pick his battles at the right time and not suicide marines into the line of siege tanks, the rejuvenated King of Marines should have a great chance to make it out.

This will be a huge test to see if MarineKing can keep up with the newer age Terrans. A lot say that his bio play is going out of style, but if he can take down Happy, it'll be a huge statement that MarineKing is here to stay in Code S and definitely at the level of players who deserve to be there.


Predictions:

Brown > Alive
Happy > MarineKing
MarineKing > Alive
Brown > Happy
MarineKing > Happy

P.S: Artosis has to be right about a Protoss sometime, right? All aboard the new Protoss Hero Hype Train!

















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Writers: Fionn and Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko and Pony Tales (disciple and Lip the Pencilboy).
Editor: WaxAngel
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Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 00:03:08
January 18 2012 00:00 GMT
#2
P.S: Artosis has to be right about a Protoss sometime, right? All aboard the new Protoss Hero Hype Train!

Nahh. Artosis will never be right ofc :D Plus now Brown is predicted by both Fionn and artosis to win....he's doomed.
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
January 18 2012 00:03 GMT
#3
I also expect Brown to do well. Having said this, I expect aLive to make it out of the group with him, rather than MKP, although Happy also has a great shot at making it out.
:O
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
January 18 2012 00:04 GMT
#4
Looks like Brown is predicted to do well, hope so
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 00:09:54
January 18 2012 00:04 GMT
#5
The winner of winner match game 1 is wrong.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 18 2012 00:04 GMT
#6
:D

MKP and Brown hwaiting~
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
jkang
Profile Joined May 2011
United States404 Posts
January 18 2012 00:06 GMT
#7
I think Brown's PvZ is better than JYP or MC's, just judging from his Code A games.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33325 Posts
January 18 2012 00:07 GMT
#8
On January 18 2012 09:04 DisaFear wrote:
Looks like Brown is predicted to do well, hope so


naaah, artosis curse

you remember how hero did well, and then Artosis called him best Protoss player in the world at Dreamhack? that curse, too strong
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JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
January 18 2012 00:09 GMT
#9
Hopefully Genius can keep it up!

Good player + fun celebrations = Fun :D
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
January 18 2012 00:10 GMT
#10
rwar protoss hype train gooo!
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 18 2012 00:10 GMT
#11
I don't think that MarineKing's TvT is nearly as good as Happy's. I think a lot of it will come down to the map: if the map favors mech, Happy will wipe the floor with MKP, otherwise (such as on maps like Cross spawns TDA) MKP might stand a chance).
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
January 18 2012 00:11 GMT
#12
Does the fall through Artosis hype and the Fionn curse neutralise each other, or cause its strength to double? I hope the latter because i voted for Brown in my LB
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StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
January 18 2012 00:12 GMT
#13
i heard Her0 has stage fright,
he is friggin good though heres hopin'
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jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
January 18 2012 00:12 GMT
#14
So much talent in this group, I think it's going to be a hard one to call.
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
January 18 2012 00:15 GMT
#15
Personally I think that the safest bet for this group is Happy / Brown, because MarineKing and aLive are such unreliable players. I don't think that MKP has what it takes to beat Happy in TvT, but he might be able to beat the more bio-oriented style that aLive plays generally. I would love to see Brown go through this group, and while he has beaten Ryung last season, Ryung also happens to be awful at TvP.

Of course, if you train at the SlayerS house we can probably bet that you are good at vT (for example: CoCa ZvT before, CoCa ZvT after) though, so I think he has a pretty good chance.
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
January 18 2012 00:19 GMT
#16
I agree with the preds. Either Brown MKP, Brown, aLive, or MKP aLive should be expected.
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Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 18 2012 00:20 GMT
#17
Will be tough for MKP hopefully he improved his TvT.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
January 18 2012 00:21 GMT
#18

P.S: Artosis has to be right about a Protoss sometime, right? All aboard the new Protoss Hero Hype Train!


I see what you did there
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 18 2012 00:22 GMT
#19
So from Fionn's predictions I expect aLive and Happy to advance? Shame, I bet on MKP and Happy but Fionn had to go and ruin that! =P

That said: looking forward to seeing if Brown is any good. I personally haven't seen a game out of him since one of the Korean Weeklies over 3 months ago. He only looked ok then, but it's been a long time so maybe he'll be worth watching.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
January 18 2012 00:23 GMT
#20
Hope Brown can be a a Protoss hero that everyone can rally around, and overcome the hype machine for promising Protosses. A little surprised that aLive might have left TSL though.
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milesfacade
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom799 Posts
January 18 2012 00:23 GMT
#21
Nice article once more, but you couldn't be more wrong about Daybreak, Waxangel. You seem to condemn it for consistently producing macro games but it produces macro games which are multi-task orientated and I doubt there are many avid gsl watchers who share the same opinion as you, it has produced the best games in recent times.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
January 18 2012 00:25 GMT
#22
Completely disagree with the criticism of daybreak. Some of the best games ever were played on that map, and it continues to do best in terms of balance and entertainment. The author should look at the scores he gives and take an average for every map. I bet Daybreak's average game rating is one of the best. When was the last good game played on dual site?

Boring macro games result from the players, not the maps. I would say the only advantage of a smaller map is that it will take less the time for the game to be over and done it.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
January 18 2012 00:28 GMT
#23
Artosis?

Right about a Protoss?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry Artosis, I love you but it happens EVERY TIME...
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kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
January 18 2012 00:34 GMT
#24
Wait... an other player is leaving TSL ? It's like all their good players of 6 month ago are not even in the team anymore, but somehow I feel they will still manage to win games in the GSTL :D
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supraWman
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany453 Posts
January 18 2012 00:36 GMT
#25
Oh crap. I Liquibetted on Brown, now with both Artosis and Fionn hyping him I regret my decision already.
Isengrim
Profile Joined June 2010
Ireland37 Posts
January 18 2012 00:38 GMT
#26
Go Marineking!
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tianinja
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
January 18 2012 00:40 GMT
#27
artosis' high hopes for protosses everywhere could be their downfall, unfortunately.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37014 Posts
January 18 2012 00:49 GMT
#28
PLEASE BROWN!! BREAK THE FIONN/ARTOSIS CURSE!!!
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 18 2012 00:50 GMT
#29
My Predictions:
Brown>Alive
Happy>MarineKing
Alive>MarineKing
Brown>Happy
Alive>Happy
Sorry to MarineKing fans, but his play just didn't seem up to code s par recently especiallly in Homestory Cup, so I picked Alive and Brown to advance. Brown because he's a good protoss and we need more toss in code s seeing as out of the 12 that have qualified so far, 6 are terran, 3 are toss, and 3 are zerg. I also want Artosis to finally be right about a protoss champion. I picked Alive because I think he is the more solid of the two bio terrans at the moment, and I believe his bio is good enough to beat the mech of happy. As for the team change, I don't think that it will affect him enough that he won't advance. In conclusion, MKP and Happy will probably advance just because I'm terrible at this.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
January 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#30
Waking up at 3:00 AM tomorrow to catch some MKP action.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
January 18 2012 00:51 GMT
#31
nope. happys gonna win this group easy.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
January 18 2012 00:54 GMT
#32
w0w genius destroyed o_O
My religion is Starcraft
bundo
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada113 Posts
January 18 2012 00:58 GMT
#33
hope happy makes it out! love seeing mech play in GSL
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
January 18 2012 01:00 GMT
#34
Contraversial as always. Fun though.

I can't tell if the talk about Alive and Happy were honest or merely hype. Brown for his part as mentioned comes from a long tradition. MKP for his part is just an enigma. Popular yes but is that merited? He lost some of his shine when he chose marineking over Foxer and so has his play to some degree though he's back to posting results. Blargh I'm just a negative nancy about group F. T_T

The daybreak opinion is also one to see bandied about but difficult to entertain. Fundamnetally if we want some variety maps of dualsight and cross fire have to be paired (if we're nice) with Calm before the storm and Daybreak. To be fair there is plenty of potential remaining in map design... I'm personally waiting for an SC2 version of Battle Royale to pop out. GSL has been cautious so far but I'll agree I wouldnt mind seeing one bit of kookiness next season if diversity remains on the up and up.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6226 Posts
January 18 2012 01:06 GMT
#35
Although it obviously doesn't matter, I found it a bit jarring that the text told us in no uncertain terms that Happy and Alive are amazing Terrans who should be getting vastly more cred than they currently are... and then promptly and unceremoniously dumps them both into Code A.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 01:26:49
January 18 2012 01:13 GMT
#36
Lamenting the macro map (Daybreak sucks): Move aside Terminus. I've found a new map where I can fast-forward to the eleven minute mark in every game. To an almost scary lack of exception, Daybreak means three base. While other TL staffers thought Daybreak was good enough to be map of the year, personally I'm finding the lack of variation on the map to be a pretty boring. Sure, the numbers say it's one of the most balanced maps in competitive play, and I like that for the players. But as a viewer, the horribly imbalanced Dual Sight 1.0 provided some much more entertaining, epic games.


THANK YOU! Finally waxangel writes something I wholeheartedly agree with. I was completely taken aback when daybreak won map of the year. For those of you players I guess I can understand that you like balanced macro maps, but as someone who only spectates I don't find daybreak exciting at all. Sure it has its fair share of exciting games but when it comes to crappy games it's better for them to end quickly rather than drag out forever.
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
January 18 2012 01:17 GMT
#37
DRG beat MKP in the semifinals of King of Kongs, I believe.
Mvp fanboy
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 18 2012 01:24 GMT
#38
On January 18 2012 10:17 hnim wrote:
DRG beat MKP in the semifinals of King of Kongs, I believe.


You are correct.

I hope Brown can surprise us all, and extend his 6 game win streak. But it will be an uphill battle.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
January 18 2012 01:28 GMT
#39
JYP you make me so sad. :C
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 18 2012 01:28 GMT
#40
Alive never seems to get any credit. I doubt very hard he will go 0-2. Imo he is favoured against Brown.
Cybren
Profile Joined February 2010
United States206 Posts
January 18 2012 01:32 GMT
#41
I know it's incredibly lazy of me but i'm disappointed there's no "overall results" spoiler.
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envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
January 18 2012 01:38 GMT
#42
On January 18 2012 09:00 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
P.S: Artosis has to be right about a Protoss sometime, right? All aboard the new Protoss Hero Hype Train!

Nahh. Artosis will never be right ofc :D Plus now Brown is predicted by both Fionn and artosis to win....he's doomed.

Maybe the two curses cancel each other out? :D I'd love to see a Protoss make it out of a group with 3 terrans in it because it will show that the 1/1/1 isn't as incredibly powerful as it used to be.
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[KGS]Slacker
Profile Joined November 2009
Denmark82 Posts
January 18 2012 01:39 GMT
#43
Haven't read the article yet but just want to say that I'm really impressed with the coverage you guys are providing for the GSL this time around. Articles everyday Monday - Thursday consistently so far. Have enjoyed every one so far so I'm sure this one is excellent too. Keep up the great work!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33325 Posts
January 18 2012 01:55 GMT
#44
On January 18 2012 10:32 Cybren wrote:
I know it's incredibly lazy of me but i'm disappointed there's no "overall results" spoiler.


liquipedia is our lord and master
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 18 2012 02:01 GMT
#45
Genius was epic in his interview. He was epic in his games. Lets see if he can carry that through! (crosses fingers)
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RynoSoren
Profile Joined November 2011
United States32 Posts
January 18 2012 02:07 GMT
#46
These write ups have been really well written. But I have to say, how can Genius vs Sc be considered an average match? Either you're Krazy, or you have been watching games from the future and these games look like crap in comparison. Some of these scores this season seem to be given with an air of pretentiousness. That's probably harsh but I mean come on.
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
January 18 2012 02:15 GMT
#47
On January 18 2012 10:55 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 10:32 Cybren wrote:
I know it's incredibly lazy of me but i'm disappointed there's no "overall results" spoiler.


liquipedia is our lord and master


And the previous day's LR thread is Her Majesty Elly's trustworthy and reliable minister.

JYP was very disappointing yesterday, but I have high hopes for Brown, some of the analysis written and spoken about him after his Code A romp was promising and enlightening.

Daybreak I'm ok with, I don't mind the 3 base vs 3 base "let's be best friends and macro before 200/200 fight" games that much, I've got time to spare for GSL. (Until SPL time lol)
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Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
January 18 2012 02:24 GMT
#48
It is about time Protoss!
For Aiur!
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
January 18 2012 02:31 GMT
#49
stellar analysis this time
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
January 18 2012 02:32 GMT
#50
Alright, i take it back, neither brown nor marineking can beat aLive
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
January 18 2012 03:05 GMT
#51
Are there ever vods of GSL games besides on gomtv.net ?

These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
January 18 2012 03:20 GMT
#52
thank you for battle reports
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sjperera
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada349 Posts
January 18 2012 03:30 GMT
#53
More than Brown, I've been impressed by Parting... eitherway, hope all three P's get into the Ro16 (Puzzle too)
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
January 18 2012 03:35 GMT
#54
On January 18 2012 09:00 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
P.S: Artosis has to be right about a Protoss sometime, right? All aboard the new Protoss Hero Hype Train!

Nahh. Artosis will never be right ofc :D Plus now Brown is predicted by both Fionn and artosis to win....he's doomed.


This. Brown will put up mediocre results and probably come in 3rd in his group sadly now that he's officially cursed. I hope he proves me wrong though, I want MKP to advance, and am indifferent as to who's the second person to also advance in this group.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3320 Posts
January 18 2012 03:49 GMT
#55
I think the predictions are a bit messed up. It seems that the wrong side is bolded
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phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
January 18 2012 04:13 GMT
#56
Why is it that Artosis is so damn good about predicting tournament winners but seems to lack in predicting who the to-be dominant players are? Strange.

Rooting for alive!
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
January 18 2012 04:20 GMT
#57
Fionn picked Brown and MarineKing? crap, they're cursed. that's what i liquibet. Happy/Alive will win now
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 18 2012 04:53 GMT
#58
I like Alive a lot (like I said, think he has the best pure skill of the group), but he just left his team + nerves could hold him back.
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Datum
Profile Joined February 2011
United States371 Posts
January 18 2012 05:15 GMT
#59
As amazing as these writeups are, I have to strongly disagree with Waxangel about macro games. I thought that Sc vs. Genius was an absolutely amazing game. Even though there wasn't a ton of battles, I found it very exciting to watch such solid play. While I absolutely see why someone might find those types of games boring, I would prefer to see a long macro game with great execution over any other type of game any day of the week.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
January 18 2012 05:15 GMT
#60
Oh poor Blown Fionn and Artosis pick you
jkos86
Profile Joined March 2011
50 Posts
January 18 2012 05:27 GMT
#61
Mvp offraces as zerg and has beaten mkp using ling infestor ultra it is very strong.
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
January 18 2012 05:39 GMT
#62
As long as the TSL incident does not bother aLive's mental state, he should clean up this group 2-0 and move forward into the ro16 in my opinion. Seems like he is quite the ladder beast.

aLive HWAITING!
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 18 2012 05:40 GMT
#63
Creator will be the next protoss to win a Code S event.

Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 18 2012 05:49 GMT
#64
Your ratings for last night's games are a little too low, it was a great night overall.

Also I knew I was right about DRG's ZvP being overrated. People have to stop relying on stats so hard.
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EctoMimed
Profile Joined April 2011
United States38 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:16:14
January 18 2012 06:12 GMT
#65
Here goes Teamliquid staff again about "Protoss hope" .. and we wonder why there is so much Protoss QQ on these forums. The staff or article writers are enabling them. How many have been banned for disagreeing with a mod about Protoss not being UP? I worry sometimes... I have no problem with the content of this post, but I do have a problem with the sensationalist title and inclusion of the dastardly "sad zealot" which is the most hypocritical thread in existence. You have rules against balance whining yet a mod can create a thread solely for Protoss QQ.

Remember that big write up aout HSC and the production value and games? well obviously MC winning that means nothing at all so lets shove that under a rug. Protoss is in a stage of transition imo and it's not something we should be too worried about.

In a 4v4 ladder match, me "hey you have a thor at 1 health exactly :o maybe you should repair it" mass thor guy "naaaaaww he's a trooper"
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 18 2012 06:22 GMT
#66
Heh it's true that protoss shouldn't be looking for "hope" when they are advancing to the RO16 at the same rate as Zergs and terrans
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
January 18 2012 06:24 GMT
#67
Go toss :D
Dear Sixsmith...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 18 2012 06:52 GMT
#68
Wow I'm surprised, someone who finally agree with me with those norush15 maps all the time! We've seen games where the first battle includes broodlords...
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
January 18 2012 07:30 GMT
#69
3/32 s class finalists are protoss. Look elsewhere IMO odds are against it.
MC for president
GoingGoingGone
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Slovakia529 Posts
January 18 2012 07:43 GMT
#70
Rooting for Brown, not enough protoss players in the next round, IMO . The second... I call MKP, we'll see.
Busy night, but there's always room for another... unless the servers are down.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 18 2012 07:46 GMT
#71
brown is doomed for sure now lol- i feel bad for the kid. MarineKing FIGHTING!!!!
btw- EVERYONE should watch Genius vs SC from last night (game 2) absolutely hilarious! =]
Long live the Boss Toss!
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
January 18 2012 08:09 GMT
#72
On January 18 2012 16:30 tdt wrote:
3/32 s class finalists are protoss. Look elsewhere IMO odds are against it.


and it's not like the game has changed at all in the mean time... dear oh dear
@followMVT
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
January 18 2012 08:17 GMT
#73
Not sure how Brown will do. Cella apparently said he never loses PvZ but I haven't heard anything about his PvT. Hopefully it's just as good
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7979 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 08:39:11
January 18 2012 08:35 GMT
#74
why are all tl articles so protoss whiny, zerg has the worst season with 34% winrate tvz and 37,5% winrate zvp

3 out of 9 zergs advanced, 3 out of 5 protoss advanced to ro16 so far

wtb that happy marine pic instead
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
January 18 2012 08:46 GMT
#75
MKP saw Goody play during HSC so mech hold no more secrets for him.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 18 2012 08:58 GMT
#76
On January 18 2012 17:35 Tsubbi wrote:
why are all tl articles so protoss whiny, zerg has the worst season with 34% winrate tvz and 37,5% winrate zvp

3 out of 9 zergs advanced, 3 out of 5 protoss advanced to ro16 so far

wtb that happy marine pic instead

Yeah but 2 of those zergs that didn't advance were foreigners that were seeded into Code S and didn't belong there anyway.
FiNTer
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland153 Posts
January 18 2012 09:10 GMT
#77
On January 18 2012 14:27 jkos86 wrote:
Mvp offraces as zerg and has beaten mkp using ling infestor ultra it is very strong.

He beated also Bomber with his zerg but what was your point imo MVP could take some tournaments even with random ^^
Slayers`terran fan
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
January 18 2012 10:01 GMT
#78
I think that, if I were to hype a new protoss hope, I would likely choose Parting (if not finale) over Brown.
vittra
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden16 Posts
January 18 2012 10:12 GMT
#79
On January 18 2012 15:52 nojok wrote:
Wow I'm surprised, someone who finally agree with me with those norush15 maps all the time! We've seen games where the first battle includes broodlords...


We've actually even seen at least one game where the first battle included Carriers...
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 18 2012 10:13 GMT
#80
Artosis needs to start calling more people he loves the worst players in the world in order to spare them.

I hope MKP gets out of his group!
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dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
January 18 2012 10:28 GMT
#81
Haha, prophet Artosis has spoken again, Brown's days are numbered.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win.
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
January 18 2012 11:48 GMT
#82
Fionn hates his predictions right now.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
January 18 2012 11:53 GMT
#83
I hate my predictions right now...
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 18 2012 11:59 GMT
#84
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
ManicMarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia409 Posts
January 18 2012 12:13 GMT
#85
Poor Fionn, I feel your pain.
Manic by name, Manic by nature.
klo8
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria1960 Posts
January 18 2012 13:05 GMT
#86
On January 18 2012 20:59 Fionn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Amazing.
This post is clearly not a hurr, as you can see from the graph, the durr never intersects with the derp.
vittra
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden16 Posts
January 18 2012 13:24 GMT
#87
Did anyone else note Artosis use of the term "artosis-pylon"? An atemt to de-dramatize it, perhaps? A bit akward, maybe, but it kind of made me happy that he did that.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
January 18 2012 13:26 GMT
#88
I have said it for a long time and I will say it again: MC and Genius are the only real bosses of the protoss race. If there is ever gonna be another protoss GSL champ, I'm convinced it will be one of these two guys..
Bosskonasegway
Profile Joined March 2011
United States161 Posts
January 18 2012 14:51 GMT
#89
You can always bet on Artosis' Protoss pick immediately getting eliminated from the GSL, which is unfortunate; I really liked SlayersBrown.
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cupapoo
Profile Joined December 2010
17 Posts
January 18 2012 14:56 GMT
#90
On January 18 2012 20:59 Fionn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


hahahahahah
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
January 18 2012 17:19 GMT
#91
On January 18 2012 20:59 Fionn wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Too good, just emailed this to my Protoss friend
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Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
January 18 2012 18:43 GMT
#92
Did you seriously compare DongRaeGu to Stephano?

Wow. Just, wow.
garbodor
Profile Joined October 2011
269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 21:12:19
January 18 2012 21:11 GMT
#93
Unrelated to the article, but, I read a post a few days ago about the naming convention for BW leagues compared to GSL: If you look at any msl/osl, that season is called the "Sponsorsname" MSL or OSL, right?
2010 Bacchus OSL, 2011 Jin Air OSL, etc?

Why isn't the same naming convention applied to the GSL?
This would be the Hot6ix 2012 GSL S1 or something, rather than just GSL 2012 S1?
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
January 18 2012 21:33 GMT
#94
Artosis: please stop hyping players, it's terrible for their careers! :p
Scholar. Shaman. Starcraft Enthusiast.
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
January 18 2012 21:53 GMT
#95
MC has been and still is the protoss hope.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 22:07:58
January 18 2012 21:56 GMT
#96
On January 19 2012 06:53 Lewan72 wrote:
MC has been and still is the protoss hope.

like I said before, MC AND genius imo
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 18 2012 22:34 GMT
#97
On January 19 2012 06:56 B.I.G. wrote:
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On January 19 2012 06:53 Lewan72 wrote:
MC has been and still is the protoss hope.

like I said before, MC AND genius imo

Why genius? His Code S performance was his first impressive one in a long time. He hasn't had a top 3 finish in anything since 2010. He certainly doesn't deserve the same status as MC.
goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 18 2012 22:46 GMT
#98
No one can overcome the Artosis Fionn curse....

Poor Brown there was nothing he could do about it.
Hydrox911
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom261 Posts
January 18 2012 22:56 GMT
#99
How come happy beats marineking. Then marineking beats happy. No makey sensey ?
No, Your Quote.
Beedon
Profile Joined October 2010
United States12 Posts
January 19 2012 16:13 GMT
#100
TBH i really expected Genius to disappear into obscurity. I am happy to see him rockin some bitches, now, though. I hope his attitute has improved and that he keeps it up!
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
January 20 2012 14:48 GMT
#101
I'm so beyond tired of these protoss-centric/sad zealot featured articles. To have QQ on the forums is one thing, but have indirect TL-sanctioned endorsement of the QQ in the form of featured articles is just really bad
InstantKarma
Profile Joined November 2010
United States205 Posts
January 25 2012 23:54 GMT
#102
On January 20 2012 23:48 Quotidian wrote:
I'm so beyond tired of these protoss-centric/sad zealot featured articles. To have QQ on the forums is one thing, but have indirect TL-sanctioned endorsement of the QQ in the form of featured articles is just really bad



Exactly! This season of GSL there are 5 protoss in the round of 16 and only 3 zergs. It was the exact same way in GSL november! There were 5 protoss and only 3 zergs! I didn't see any frontpage posts with a crying hydralisk.
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