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John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
January 01 2012 05:54 GMT
#41
It's been a big year for big boys
FOOTBALL
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 01 2012 05:55 GMT
#42
On January 01 2012 14:54 Tazerenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:51 Cynthesis wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:36 Bumblebee wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:34 Cynthesis wrote:
I disagree with the tie for team of the year. EG has the most golds out of any foreigner team (and in my personal opinion) the better line up. But I respect your opionon.

They do? Please line it up for me.


EG - Axslav, Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol, Huk, Machine, Puma, StrifeCro, JYP

Liquid - Tyler, TLO, Jinro, Haypro, Ret, Sheth, Hero, Zenio

2011 1st Places
Liquid (3)
Ret Assembly Winter, Battle.net European Invitational
Hero - Dreamhack Winter
EG (7)
Idra - IPL 1, IEM China
Huk - Dreamhack Summer, MLG Orlando
Puma - NASL 1, 2, IEM Cologne

Technically HuK was on Liquid for DHS and Homestory Cup.


And Puma was on TSL for NASL1. Hence why EG picked him up.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Cynthesis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States22 Posts
January 01 2012 05:56 GMT
#43
On January 01 2012 14:54 Tazerenix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:51 Cynthesis wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:36 Bumblebee wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:34 Cynthesis wrote:
I disagree with the tie for team of the year. EG has the most golds out of any foreigner team (and in my personal opinion) the better line up. But I respect your opionon.

They do? Please line it up for me.


EG - Axslav, Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol, Huk, Machine, Puma, StrifeCro, JYP

Liquid - Tyler, TLO, Jinro, Haypro, Ret, Sheth, Hero, Zenio

2011 1st Places
Liquid (3)
Ret Assembly Winter, Battle.net European Invitational
Hero - Dreamhack Winter
EG (7)
Idra - IPL 1, IEM China
Huk - Dreamhack Summer, MLG Orlando
Puma - NASL 1, 2, IEM Cologne

Technically HuK was on Liquid for DHS and Homestory Cup.

True,

5, 6 then.
"Good game does not mean good play"
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 06:15:51
January 01 2012 05:56 GMT
#44
On January 01 2012 14:51 Cynthesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:36 Bumblebee wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:34 Cynthesis wrote:
I disagree with the tie for team of the year. EG has the most golds out of any foreigner team (and in my personal opinion) the better line up. But I respect your opionon.

They do? Please line it up for me.


EG - Axslav, Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol, Huk, Machine, Puma, StrifeCro, JYP

Liquid - Tyler, TLO, Jinro, Haypro, Ret, Sheth, Hero, Zenio

2011 1st Places
Liquid (3)
Ret Assembly Winter, Battle.net European Invitational
Hero - Dreamhack Winter
EG (7)
Idra - IPL 1, IEM China
Huk - Dreamhack Summer, MLG Orlando
Puma - NASL 1, 2, IEM Cologne

You can't lineup it like that.

Liquid (1st places):
PokerIdol (TLO)
Assembly Winter (Ret)
Blizz EU Invitational (Ret)
DreamHack Summer (HuK)
HomeStoryCup III (HuK)
DreamHack Winter (HerO)

EG (1st places):
IPL Season 1 (IdrA)
IEM GamesCom (PuMa)
IEM China (IdrA)
Asus ROG (IdrA)
MLG Orlando (HuK)
NASL Season 2 (PuMa)

So EG and we are tried for the lead, but where one of the "major" titles you're bringing in is an online tournament. However this is very very close and not hugely in favor of EG
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
grandmoose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States160 Posts
January 01 2012 05:56 GMT
#45
I think MVP (team) should be a nominee for best team. Other than that great writeup.
not really a moose
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 01 2012 05:56 GMT
#46
On January 01 2012 14:51 Cynthesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:36 Bumblebee wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:34 Cynthesis wrote:
I disagree with the tie for team of the year. EG has the most golds out of any foreigner team (and in my personal opinion) the better line up. But I respect your opionon.

They do? Please line it up for me.


EG - Axslav, Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol, Huk, Machine, Puma, StrifeCro, JYP

Liquid - Tyler, TLO, Jinro, Haypro, Ret, Sheth, Hero, Zenio

2011 1st Places
Liquid (3)
Ret Assembly Winter, Battle.net European Invitational
Hero - Dreamhack Winter
EG (7)
Idra - IPL 1, IEM China
Huk - Dreamhack Summer, MLG Orlando
Puma - NASL 1, 2, IEM Cologne

Do you think its fair to award results to players on teams when they weren't on that team :-) ?
Cocoba
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada352 Posts
January 01 2012 05:56 GMT
#47
Awesome and Hilarious write up :D
Caught myself Loling a few times
:D
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 01 2012 05:58 GMT
#48
On January 01 2012 14:56 grandmoose wrote:
I think MVP (team) should be a nominee for best team. Other than that great writeup.


They were when I wrote it. They got chopped off in the final proceedings.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
January 01 2012 05:59 GMT
#49
I agreed with almost everything, but you meta-meta-biased yourselves out with the foreign team pick... You can't ever fully get rid of bias, just make a call and deal with the fallback.
Cynthesis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States22 Posts
January 01 2012 06:00 GMT
#50
On January 01 2012 14:56 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:51 Cynthesis wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:36 Bumblebee wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:34 Cynthesis wrote:
I disagree with the tie for team of the year. EG has the most golds out of any foreigner team (and in my personal opinion) the better line up. But I respect your opionon.

They do? Please line it up for me.


EG - Axslav, Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol, Huk, Machine, Puma, StrifeCro, JYP

Liquid - Tyler, TLO, Jinro, Haypro, Ret, Sheth, Hero, Zenio

2011 1st Places
Liquid (3)
Ret Assembly Winter, Battle.net European Invitational
Hero - Dreamhack Winter
EG (7)
Idra - IPL 1, IEM China
Huk - Dreamhack Summer, MLG Orlando
Puma - NASL 1, 2, IEM Cologne

Do you think its fair to award results to players on teams when they weren't on that team :-) ?

Sorry, you are correct, I did not calculate this. I still hold my original opinion, but respect yours.
"Good game does not mean good play"
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 01 2012 06:03 GMT
#51
Tal'Darim not even nominated for Map of the Year?

That was the map which revolutionized the game (well one of the 3), but it has been around for the longest, got onto the ladder, pretty balanced and has given us plenty of great games.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
January 01 2012 06:04 GMT
#52
Great article, I just want to jump in here and say that I fully agree with Daybreak as map of the year.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
decerto
Profile Joined November 2011
244 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 06:09:44
January 01 2012 06:04 GMT
#53
Sorry international team of the year wtf......, where was mouz, mouz outstrips both eg and tl as a team by a long shot, no team comes together in team leagues like mouz, no team comes even close to it, maybe less so as a group of individuals but thats blind bias not even nominating mouz.
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
January 01 2012 06:04 GMT
#54
On January 01 2012 15:00 Cynthesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 14:56 Kennigit wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:51 Cynthesis wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:36 Bumblebee wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:34 Cynthesis wrote:
I disagree with the tie for team of the year. EG has the most golds out of any foreigner team (and in my personal opinion) the better line up. But I respect your opionon.

They do? Please line it up for me.


EG - Axslav, Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol, Huk, Machine, Puma, StrifeCro, JYP

Liquid - Tyler, TLO, Jinro, Haypro, Ret, Sheth, Hero, Zenio

2011 1st Places
Liquid (3)
Ret Assembly Winter, Battle.net European Invitational
Hero - Dreamhack Winter
EG (7)
Idra - IPL 1, IEM China
Huk - Dreamhack Summer, MLG Orlando
Puma - NASL 1, 2, IEM Cologne

Do you think its fair to award results to players on teams when they weren't on that team :-) ?

Sorry, you are correct, I did not calculate this. I still hold my original opinion, but respect yours.


I haven't calculated this but I would venture that as a team, TL has had more high placements than EG this year. TL seems to have more general depth when you look past the stars.

If we just look at the heavy-hitters, then yes I would agree EG has the better team.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
January 01 2012 06:07 GMT
#55
Worst Drama Winner...

Nobody
[image loading]

Bahahahaaha. Well done.

I could argue about some of the winners, but everything is so well-written and is overall a great read.

Happy New Year!
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
January 01 2012 06:07 GMT
#56
very bias haha
EG is better
Incredible Miracle
Cynthesis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States22 Posts
January 01 2012 06:09 GMT
#57
On January 01 2012 15:04 moltenlead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 15:00 Cynthesis wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:56 Kennigit wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:51 Cynthesis wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:36 Bumblebee wrote:
On January 01 2012 14:34 Cynthesis wrote:
I disagree with the tie for team of the year. EG has the most golds out of any foreigner team (and in my personal opinion) the better line up. But I respect your opionon.

They do? Please line it up for me.


EG - Axslav, Demuslim, Idra, Incontrol, Huk, Machine, Puma, StrifeCro, JYP

Liquid - Tyler, TLO, Jinro, Haypro, Ret, Sheth, Hero, Zenio

2011 1st Places
Liquid (3)
Ret Assembly Winter, Battle.net European Invitational
Hero - Dreamhack Winter
EG (7)
Idra - IPL 1, IEM China
Huk - Dreamhack Summer, MLG Orlando
Puma - NASL 1, 2, IEM Cologne

Do you think its fair to award results to players on teams when they weren't on that team :-) ?

Sorry, you are correct, I did not calculate this. I still hold my original opinion, but respect yours.


I haven't calculated this but I would venture that as a team, TL has had more high placements than EG this year. TL seems to have more general depth when you look past the stars.

If we just look at the heavy-hitters, then yes I would agree EG has the better team.

I think TL feels like it flows better together, but EG I feel has a deeper depth of talent which pushes it higher as the overall 'better' team. But better in a general sense, they both have aspects that outweigh one another.
"Good game does not mean good play"
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 01 2012 06:09 GMT
#58
Great write-up, good stuff!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
vahgar.r24
Profile Joined October 2010
India465 Posts
January 01 2012 06:10 GMT
#59
Thanks , i love such best of articles and this was awesome!
Somethings are just worth fighting for
Bumblebee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3237 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 06:14:42
January 01 2012 06:10 GMT
#60
On January 01 2012 15:04 decerto wrote:
Sorry international team of the year wtf......, where was mouz, mouz outstrips both eg and tl as team by a long shot, no team comes together in team leagues like mouz no team comes even close to it

mouz is definitely one amazing team and that's nothing i want to take away from them. But the team leagues that has been in the past year, hasn't really been on the level of the 1on1 competitions that has been. What the reason exactly might have been for that, I can't really tell, but the money compared to effort hasn't been exactly worth it to value it higher than some of the biggest tournaments such as IPL and DreamHack (which they have collided with), so while it's been taken seriously and people have wanted to play to win, I still think there's a long way to go for these and I believe IGN will be bringing some stuff to the table very soon.

However mouz definitely lacks 1on1 competition wins and general attendance than other teams.
There is no difference between a knight and any other man aside from what he wears. @robinnymann
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