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Blizzard Cup - RO6 Preview & Group Stage Review

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Blizzard Cup - RO6 Preview & Group Stage Review

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December 13th, 2011 22:44 GMT
  • Blizzard Cup on Liquipedia
  • Group Stage Review: Mini-Power Rank
  • MC vs Leenock: Generation Change
  • Mvp vs Polt: Sieging the Hand the Feeds

Group Stage Review: Mini-Power Rank


By: Fionn

Heading into the RO6, we decided to review the group stages in Fionn's favorite article format: A Power Rank! But first, a some spoilerific Group B short match recaps from WaxAngel:


+ Show Spoiler [Spoilerific Short Match Recaps] +

Group B
1. MMA > Nestea: Oddly reminiscent of their game on Antiga Shipyards in the GSL. Nestea just looked dull and uninspired, microing poorly and forgetting to take care of all the little details involved in taking down a player of MMA's caliber. The game went long, but Nestea never looked to be in control.

Rating: Few late game, 5 vs 5 base battles have seemed this dull.


2. Leenock > Naniwa: As he forewarned, Leenock cheesed Naniwa early on, busting his Forge FE with a Baneling attack. This transitioned into a macro game where Leenock always looked undeniably ahead, but Naniwa fought hard with good force-field and storm micro. It looked like he had a glimmer of hope after he defeated Leenock's Brood Lords, but he was in too much of a hole to really recover.

Rating: Anyone who managed to stay realistic during the game knew that Naniwa only had a tiny chance of making a comeback, despite how well he was playing. Still, it was very exciting to see him try.


3. Polt > Nestea: Polt beat Nestea in a straight up, standard game. Nestea continued to play rather poorly, while Polt played pretty well.

Rating: Not really worth seeing, unless you're curious about Polt's play or want to see exactly what was wrong with Nestea.


4. MMA > Leenock: MMA surprised Leenock with a double proxy rax, managing to kill off Leenock's fast expansion. It progressed to a surprisingly close mid-late game finish game after that, where MMA overwhelmed Leenock with unrelenting macro and aggression.

Rating: Two of the best guys TvZ guys in the world going at it. Not amazing, but worth seeing.


5. Polt > Naniwa: The game Naniwa could have won. Polt went for two rax against Naniwa's one-gate expansion. Naniwa stopped the early attack, and reversed the tables by putting the pressure on Polt. However, he committed to attacking Polt for too long without doing enough damage. Naniwa's tech stayed stagnant while Polt got Medivacs and infantry upgrades. Despite having a stronger economy, Naniwa couldn't defend against Polt's counter-counter attack of marines, tanks, and medivacs.

Rating: A F*** TERRAN game for Protoss players.


6. Leenock > Nestea: Nestea appeared to stop a one base all-in play by Leenock rather well, but then mismicroed his defensive Banelings HORRIBLY. Leenock showed great micro throughout the game, but part of the image was simply due to Nestea playing poorly.

Rating: I guess it might be interesting to watch the game that conclusively dispelled Nestea's aura of ZvZ invincibility.


7. MMA > Naniwa: Very cute Thor + Marine all-in against a Nexus first build.

Rating: The build was rather creative, worth a look. Naniwa looked like he had a chance of holding the attack off.


8. Leenock > Polt: Polt tried to triple bunker Leenock, but Leenock just laughed and broke it with Banelings. After droning up a little, he continued down that path and finished Polt with a Baneling bust.

Rating: It was actually a bit refreshing to see an old school, mass-Baneling bust for the first time in a while. Still, very one-sided.


9. Nestea > Naniwa: Yeah, whatever.


10. Polt > MMA: A showcase game for Polt, where he showed his unparalleled skill in choosing when and where to fight Marine-Tank engagements in TvT, and then microing those engagements effectively.

Rating: Identical to any decent TvT game from June.


Tie-Breakers


11. MMA > Leenock: A long macro game, where MMA showed really solid fundamentals to take the game.

Rating: Disappointingly, even MMA is getting in on the slow and steady Terran style. He's terrifyingly good at it, too.


12. Leenock > Polt: Polt tried to fight Leenock head on, but died to roaches + Baneling bombs.

Rating: Some terrific Baneling bombs, I must say.


13. MMA > Polt: Polt was set far behind early by having his fast Banshee build countered by MMA's FE + Viking build. Polt did his best to try and get back in the game with drop tactics and smart engagements in the middle, but eventually he fell too far behind in upgrades to compete.

Rating: MMA had the lead for most of the game, but Polt took a lot of interesting risks to try and get back in the game.





1. (T)SlayerS_MMA - The Son of Boxer had a blazing start to the Blizzard Cup, taking down every single player in his group, including the best ZvT player in the world, Leenock, twice. He did drop one game to arch-rival Polt in the final game of the group, forcing a three way tie break, but was able to avenge his earlier loss with a strong showing in a rematch for the top spot in Group B.

2. (T)IMMvp - Did MVP win his group? No, he did not, but that isn't going to stop me from placing him as the second most impressive player so far. He went from winning the World Cyber Games championship to the Media Day Event for the Blizzard Cup to his first group matches in a span of twenty four hours. He came out second his group with a score of 3-1 and only dropping a close game to DongRaeGu.

3. (Z)FXOLeenock - Only losing to one player in his group, the first placed MMA, Leenock dominated the rest of his competition, taking down Nestea, Naniwa and Polt twice to give him a commanding second place in Group B. Both games against MMA were close, but he wasn't able to take down the ace from Slayers when it came down to the end game. On the flip side, against Polt, he dominated both games with creative drop builds and beautiful defense that reassures the statement that he is the best ZvT player currently in the world.

4. (Z)MVPDongRaeGu - Talking about players with great ZvT, DRG was one game away from being eliminated from the entire tournament, but he persevered and took down MC in the final set of Group A and was able to pull out a miraculous first seed. He did drop a game to the foreigner Stephano, but was able to defeat the Game Genie Terran in the best match of the first day.

5. (T)TSL_Polt - A lot of people wondered, 'How would Polt do?' Many people believed he shouldn't have been invited and that his time of being a top player was long gone. Polt was able to shut up some of his critics by playing excellent games, beating Nestea on Crossfire (a map that Nestea doesn't lose on), Naniwa, and his rival MMA. Sadly, he lost two games to Leenock and faltered in the final game of the night in a rematch between him and MMA. Still, he was able to advance out of the group and prove that he belonged at the Blizzard Cup.

6. (P)oGs.MC - The Protoss President was the only player from his race to win a game in the Blizzard Cup, and he was also able to advance with victories over Stephano and Hero. MC still looks shaky when it comes to playing Terran, but his game against Stephano was some of the best play that I've seen out of the former GSL champion in quite some time. He has a tough test next round against Leenock, but he has a chance if he plays as well as he did against Stephano.

7. (Z)Mill.Stephano - The French Zerg played really, really well. I can't stress that enough. I came into the tournament thinking that he had a good shot of going 0-4, but he proved me wrong by taking the first two sets and putting himself in a great position to get out of the group. Unfortunately for the foreigners, Stephano dropped his last two games and had to watch as DongRaeGu beat him out for the final spot by beating MC in the deciding game. He might be seventh in my ranking, but I can assure you that he is high (very high) above the people below him.

8. (Z)IMNesTea - What happened Nestea? In each of the first three games against MMA, Polt, and Leenock, he had golden opportunities to win, but then threw the games away with bad decision making. When I think of smart players, I think of Nestea, but this was one of his worst outings in his entire career. Unlike Hero, Nestea was allowed to get into longer parts of the game, but fell apart when his macro was needed the most. He did "win" one game, but that sadly isn't enough to get him anywhere near the seventh spot in the ranking.

9. (P)QxGNaNiwa - What can I say? Naniwa went up against two tricky builds when going up against the Terrans of his group, and was able to prolong a game against Leenock where he was behind economically all game, but the only game we'll remember from his time in the Blizzard Cup will be the match against Nestea. Do I hate Naniwa and think he's an awful human being for throwing away a meaningless match? No, but I am disappointed. Even if there wasn't money on the line, pride still was. Naniwa in the GSL, now counting the Blizzard Cup, is 0-10 (if you count the Nestea game) and has only won once in the GSTL. I still believe he has all the talent in the world, and that he can become a big player in Code S, but he needs to vary up his builds.

There is a reason why Leenock, Polt, and MMA went for what they did. They've scouted Naniwa. They know that he likes to play longer games and opts to go for Nexus first a lot of the time. What they do in response is simple: kill the Naniwa before he can get ahead of me. If Naniwa wants to go anywhere in Code S, he needs to mix up his builds and play style. He's no longer an unknown quality to Koreans – in fact he might even have a target sign on his back. They'll know his style and know how to abuse it.

10. (P)Liquid`HerO - Hero didn't play well. He tried to play longer, macro games in his group, but his opponent would slap him alongside the head and kill him before he could get into the late game. Hero showed he still has nerves when it comes to the big stage, but this was a good opportunity for him to get his feet wet before delving into the Up-and-Down matches coming up in the next week. No, he may not be the best Protoss in the world, but he surely has the potential to be one of the better ones with a bit more training. Not any of the games he played were that close, and he really wasn't able to get going in any of the four games he played.

Generation Change


By: WaxAngel

RO6 Match One: (P)oGs.MC vs (Z)FXOLeenock

Whoa, I thought the changing of the guard was supposed to be a peaceful process. I didn't know Leenock was going to go around and mount the heads of previous GSL champions on pikes. MMA, Mvp, and Nestea have fallen. Now the ruthless Leenock has his sights set on oGs.MC, looking to let out some more rage from his GSL Finals loss by collecting another GSL Champion's head.

When we take recent momentum into consideration, MC looks like he will be brushed easily aside. Leenock has been performing progressively better in each of the last six GSL tournaments he competed in. Code A RO32, RO16, RO4, RO4, Code S RO16, Finals. It's been incredible to check in on his progress, where you literally saw a young talent improving by the week. On the other hand, MC recently experienced a massive slump, partially recovered, and has been stuck in limbo ever since.

One thing the President might have going for him is the match-up. For all his leaps and bounds, Leenock PvZ is slightly less convincing than his other match-ups. This is kind of Protoss's fault. At least for Terran, there are titans like MMA and Mvp that can be toppled to prove oneself. As for Protoss... Well, it feels like they're starting their top ten list with the first five slots absent. Beating Naniwa and HuK like drums is impressive for sure, but it doesn't really have the oomph of Leenock's Terran and Zerg triumphs. Then again, if MC isn't conclusively better than Naniwa or HuK, isn't Leenock still favored anyway?

Style wise, MC is as varied as always. He comes with an arsenal of one and two-base all-ins and timing attacks that he can deploy at will, as well as the solid mechanics to play a good macro game. What he doesn't seem to enjoy are the Warp Prism shenanigans of HerO and JYP, which while risky, are extremely useful at taking the fight to Zerg after other avenues of aggression have been closed off. While the safe, macro, deathbally style of Protoss is certainly still valid (insert obligatory IdrA joke here), I think that it's been the stubbornness of sticking to that style that's put Protoss in its PvZ rut. MC might have to be more dynamic to beat Leenock.

As for Leenock, his ZvP style in recent months boils down to "Be a dick now with Roach rush, or be a dick later with mass Mutalisks." He seems determined to defeat Protoss in the ways that offer them the least satisfaction, by either killing them off early before they can even play their game, or by pecking away with Mutalisks and getting the win without even allowing Protoss that massive engagement they relish. While MC is pretty good against the early all-ins, he's shown a weakness against the annoying mass-Mutalisks style as of late, and that does not bode well.

Prediction: Leenock 3 - 2 MC

Though I really think MC has a good underdog's shot at it, I have to go with the red-hot Leenock on this one.



*I'm kidding, I'm well aware that the only real DT build is "Fast DTs into fast loss."

Sieging the Hand that Feeds


By: Fionn

RO6 Match Two: (T)IMMvp vs. (T)TSL_Polt

What a turn of events going into our third day of Blizzard Cup action. MVP, due to already having three invitations to the Blizzard Cup with his #1 ranking in the GSL points alongside his wins at Blizzcon and WCG, got to see those two spots taken up by his Terran brothers in the #4 GSL ranked player MMA, and #5 ranked player Polt.

It's deliciously ironic that after two days of group play, the two players who road in on MVP's coat-tails now stand in his way of a Blizzard Cup championship. First up, is MVP vs Polt.

Both Polt and MVP had strong outings in group play, both going 3-1 in the original round robin format. They both fell to the two best ZvT players in the world, Leenock and DongRaeGu, and cleaned up the rest of the competition. Polt did lose two straight in the tiebreaker portion of his group, but he had already guaranteed himself a spot in the Ro6 and was just playing for seeding.

Now, looking at this match, the favorite is clear. MVP, who has been on a roll for the past few months, should win this match. Not only should he win this match, but he should more than likely 3-0 or 3-1 Polt in the process. That isn't to say I don't think Polt is one of the best Terran in Korea, but MVP just plays a style of TvT that overwhelms how Polt plays. It doesn't matter how many tricky builds Polt can come up with or how long he waits for MVP to make a mistake by unsieging his tanks. The three-time GSL champion has shown us that he will play a patient, long game and not overextend himself.

If Polt had gotten second place in the group and faced MC, I would have favored him heavily, but the styles of these two Terrans heavily favors MVP. Polt loves to play bionic. MVP loves to play mech. If MVP was a run-of-the-mill mech user who didn't siege correctly or wasn't able to keep all his bases defended, Polt would have the opportunity to run him over, but there is a reason why MVP is the best player in the world and looking for another trophy to add to his case.

Polt's main strength in TvT is that he can punish players who make small mistakes. If you move your army at the wrong time for a split second or go a little forward without your tanks positioned correctly, Polt will go head first into a battle and clean you up. MVP isn't the type of player that will give him those chances in a match. Instead of going in blindly or moving his units incorrectly, MVP slowly plods around the map and, like an anaconda, chokes you out until you have nothing left to do but tap out.

Even if Polt does fall to MVP, he has shown that his invitation to the tournament wasn't a wasted one. Coming into this tournament, after two straight disappointing Code S seasons, a lot of people started to doubt that Polt would be able to stick around. Now, with an impressive display in his group stage, Polt is given another shot at showing everyone that he can get back to where he was months ago as the champion of the Super Tournament.

If there was ever a moment for Polt to shock the world, this would be it. The last time these two faced off in the Arena of Legends, Polt got crushed by the superior multitasking of MVP. He'll need the better builds to win this series. His mechanics aren't as polished as MVP's and his macro won't be able to stand up over a long, drawn out game. Just like how MMA was able to get MVP off his toes by using two strategic builds in a row at the GSL October Finals, Polt will have to do the same. He can't and shouldn't try to play 100% standard against MVP. If he does, the chances of him winning are slim.

MVP is standing in front of Polt with his arms crossed, and tapping his foot impatiently. "It's time to lose, Polt. I gave you your spot, and now I'm giving you a chance to leave quietly."

So, what will it be, Polt? A quiet, predictable exit, or a result that shocks the world? I hope you guys like seeing marauders running at siege tanks because you'll be seeing a lot of explosions tonight. Will it be the scraps of tank flying or the heads of Polt's army? Only one way to find out.

Prediction: MVP 3 - 1 Polt




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Art by alteredclone.
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Writers: Fionn and WaxAngel
Graphics: Meko
Editor: WaxAngel
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ChampionEast14
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United States27 Posts
December 13 2011 22:51 GMT
#2
1. Naniwa is still a badass and what he did was not BM at all.
2. Polt is looking amazing, and so is MMA
3. LEENNOOCKKK!!! <3<3<3
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United States10796 Posts
December 13 2011 22:53 GMT
#3
LOL at that art! :D
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December 13 2011 22:54 GMT
#4
bad ass poster omfg
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December 13 2011 22:54 GMT
#5
That picture is priceless.
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December 13 2011 22:54 GMT
#6
That art. So good. :D
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December 13 2011 22:54 GMT
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beautiful picture
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101998
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December 13 2011 22:55 GMT
#8
best poster ever hahahahaha
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Sweden3286 Posts
December 13 2011 22:55 GMT
#9
DAT NANI SWORD....... Hahaha cracks me up. Just awesome. Awesome bonus.
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Canada187 Posts
December 13 2011 22:55 GMT
#10
enjoyed the read.. thanks
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United States7927 Posts
December 13 2011 22:57 GMT
#11
Nice article

Picture at the end is ace.
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United States383 Posts
December 13 2011 22:58 GMT
#12
Naniwa <3
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December 13 2011 22:58 GMT
#13
Thank you for the enjoyable read. That picture is amazing
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Canada2562 Posts
December 13 2011 22:59 GMT
#14
Oh man that art.
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December 13 2011 23:00 GMT
#15
they are playing bo5
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December 13 2011 23:00 GMT
#16
Can we have a TSHIRT PLEASE?
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 13 2011 23:01 GMT
#17
Great article, a lot of effort and really appreciated. Oh, and great poster. Naniwa really is one of a kind.

Hard to understand what GOM were thinking when they came up with the format for the tournament, though. Why so few matches between the best players of the year? But then again, naniwa might have been strangled if he had drone-rushed*2 ^^
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Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 23:05:46
December 13 2011 23:02 GMT
#18
Fun fact: Jinro, Idra, TLO, Sheth, Huk, Fenix, Thorzain, Loner, Sen, Dimaga, TT1, Ret, Stephano and qxc have all won more games than Naniwa in GOMTV/GSL events.

Artosis and Torch have won an equal number of games. 1.
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United States327 Posts
December 13 2011 23:03 GMT
#19
Thanks for the great article! The art really made me chuckle. This tournament had gotten me really excited, but some of my favorite players have just had really disappointing performances. Oh well, go MMA!
Waxangel
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Last Edited: 2011-12-13 23:04:38
December 13 2011 23:04 GMT
#20
Ah, guess I was confused about the BO3. It's BO5 then!
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Last Edited: 2011-12-13 23:12:26
December 13 2011 23:06 GMT
#21
Nani probes poster. It deserves a t-shirt.

Wax for Nestea Naniwa you could have used that gif from LR thread and write "watch yourself"
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
December 13 2011 23:06 GMT
#22
naniwa stop being the biggest eco cheeser ever. you realize if you 4gated even once you would confuse all of your opponents forever. LOL NANIWA I STILL LOVE YOU
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Turkey12 Posts
December 13 2011 23:08 GMT
#23
best artwork ewah
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Sweden708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 23:12:08
December 13 2011 23:09 GMT
#24
LOL @ art, hahaha. The bo1 format was stupid but now it's finally bo3 (would be better with bo5 but oh well).
Looking forward to some GGs

EDIT: huge props to creator of article layout too. those liquipedia etc. link under GSL logo are awesome.
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Sweden69 Posts
December 13 2011 23:10 GMT
#25
Geat poster!

Really thought Stephany would make it out, but with so many good players it's hard to predict.
I hope Naniwa get's a good chans to calm down, get his practice on and come back in a while. Better than ever! And with a stronger mindset. He seems like a protoss version of Idra in his mindset sometimes.
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Sweden1080 Posts
December 13 2011 23:11 GMT
#26
Nice write-up!
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Sweden1673 Posts
December 13 2011 23:11 GMT
#27
Good read, I dont understand Fionns disappointment in what Naniwa did though. I would have though that people who usually are thinkers would understand.

Awesome picture as well
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Latvia68 Posts
December 13 2011 23:12 GMT
#28
Holy shit, that's one helluvah awesome Naniwa pic. Definitely want to see a poster with this picture at some LAN event, hehe.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada2308 Posts
December 13 2011 23:13 GMT
#29
Excellent as alwayss
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Sweden1197 Posts
December 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#30
On December 14 2011 08:06 TheNessman wrote:
naniwa stop being the biggest eco cheeser ever. you realize if you 4gated even once you would confuse all of your opponents forever. LOL NANIWA I STILL LOVE YOU

And judging from Naniwas PvP back in the 4gate days and his current micro, an early timing push from him would seem lethal. Hopefully we'll see some varied play from him in the future.

Also, Yay, Bo5. More games of the BossToss vs Leenock can only be a good thing.
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Profile Joined December 2011
Canada9 Posts
December 13 2011 23:15 GMT
#31
I completely understand that clearly this was a super shitty thing to do. Naniwa was out of line and his frustration and cockiness clearly got to him. But what exactly is the issue here? Naniwa did something childish and immature because he was upset? All this means is that eSports are no different than every other sport on the planet. Zidan headbutted an opposing player. Ron Artest beat the shit out of a bunch of fans. Tie Domi sprayed water at a fan then broke his nose. These are professional players under stress expected to perform well and when they don't, they get frustrated and make insanely stupid decisions.

Now, is Naniwa wrong for what he did? Of course he is. He was essentially saying "Fuck this tournament I don't even care any more". Which is immature and childish. But do I think everyone needs to take it easy and relax? Yes. Naniwa is human. Although according to his StarCraft II play almost seems like an android. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, Naniwa made a stupid decision on a game that, as he made clear "didn't mean anything" and was trying to prove a point that didn't need to be made. Naniwa and Nestea will lick their wounds, shake hands and forget all about this soon. And so should you.
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United States324 Posts
December 13 2011 23:23 GMT
#32
MC FOR RE-ELECTION bABY!
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Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
December 13 2011 23:27 GMT
#33
who cares about the nani vs nestea match?! he wanted to end it fast - there you go... dont see that big story -.-
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Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 23:29:26
December 13 2011 23:28 GMT
#34
On December 14 2011 08:15 Earlobe wrote:
I completely understand that clearly this was a super shitty thing to do. Naniwa was out of line and his frustration and cockiness clearly got to him. But what exactly is the issue here? Naniwa did something childish and immature because he was upset? All this means is that eSports are no different than every other sport on the planet. Zidan headbutted an opposing player. Ron Artest beat the shit out of a bunch of fans. Tie Domi sprayed water at a fan then broke his nose. These are professional players under stress expected to perform well and when they don't, they get frustrated and make insanely stupid decisions.

Now, is Naniwa wrong for what he did? Of course he is. He was essentially saying "Fuck this tournament I don't even care any more". Which is immature and childish. But do I think everyone needs to take it easy and relax? Yes. Naniwa is human. Although according to his StarCraft II play almost seems like an android. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, Naniwa made a stupid decision on a game that, as he made clear "didn't mean anything" and was trying to prove a point that didn't need to be made. Naniwa and Nestea will lick their wounds, shake hands and forget all about this soon. And so should you.


totally agree with your point of view
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
December 13 2011 23:37 GMT
#35
dat Naniwa art haha.
Hoping for Leenock and MVP, we deserve another Leenock vs MVP !
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 23:43:38
December 13 2011 23:40 GMT
#36
On December 14 2011 08:00 careohx wrote:
Can we have a TSHIRT PLEASE?


/sign

I have to say, i prefered seeing a probe rush then watching 2 hardly motivated guys slugging it out in a 20 minute boring game full of mistakes. That would have been only a waste of my time
Whitept
Profile Joined April 2011
United States60 Posts
December 13 2011 23:43 GMT
#37
That pic is so epic. Love it. Great write up as always, I really enjoy reading these.
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
December 13 2011 23:47 GMT
#38
the naniwa poster needs the mask of zero :D
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
December 13 2011 23:47 GMT
#39
LOL the picture xD
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dolvlo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
December 13 2011 23:47 GMT
#40
If GSL bans Naniwa (or fines him) for this, I'm done with the GSL.
colate
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway121 Posts
December 13 2011 23:49 GMT
#41
Priceless poster! :') New desktop right there!!
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
December 13 2011 23:56 GMT
#42
Awesome artwork and write-up. Will be some interesting games coming up.
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ChowChillaCharlie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden677 Posts
December 14 2011 00:00 GMT
#43
Omfg make that shit into a t-shirt plz
ArtThouAngry
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada146 Posts
December 14 2011 00:03 GMT
#44
Great article, hoping for a Polt 3-2 of MVP
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fishuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States369 Posts
December 14 2011 00:07 GMT
#45
You guys are awesome for getting this out so fast. Also, that picture is amazing and hilarious <3
johanreidel
Profile Joined December 2011
27 Posts
December 14 2011 00:08 GMT
#46
That Nani poster is my new desktop background, now all I need is a Tshirt :D
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
December 14 2011 00:10 GMT
#47
MVP going to have an easy time with Polt. And awesome Nani artwork!
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instruMENTAL013
Profile Joined July 2011
United States10 Posts
December 14 2011 00:12 GMT
#48
"For anyone who managed to stay realistic" (during the Naniwa Leenock game)?! Tiggah Please! I, and I hope many other viewers, wish to see the outcome of that game if Nani would've taken down all the tech before leaving for the expansions. And I don't feel like I'm being unrealistic...
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Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
December 14 2011 00:17 GMT
#49
Awesome write-up, just wanna point out though -
It's deliciously ironic that after two days of group play, the two players who rode in on MVP's coat-tails now stand in his way of a Blizzard Cup championship. First up, is MVP vs Polt.

and
Now, looking at this match, the favorite is clear. MVP, who has been on a roll for the past few months, [i]should win this match. Not only should he win this match, but he should more than likely 3-0 or 3-1 Polt in the process.

You forgot to close the italics, sorry I just don't like noticing these without saying anything.

Anyway that aside, great article and I'm really hoping MC can come out of his slump, we freakin' need a top 'toss again.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 14 2011 00:20 GMT
#50
that naniwa pic is fucking awesome.
liftlift > tsm
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 14 2011 00:22 GMT
#51
BB code error on the should win, by the MVP Polt section yo.
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Treziel
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
December 14 2011 00:25 GMT
#52
Naniwa above Hero. Hilarious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 14 2011 00:27 GMT
#53
On December 14 2011 09:25 Treziel wrote:
Naniwa above Hero. Hilarious.

Naniwa had harder opponents imo.
liftlift > tsm
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
December 14 2011 00:27 GMT
#54
Epic poster - Naniwa leading the charge of the light probe brigade


Also Polt hwaiting! That writeup got me pretty pumped, hope Polt brings his A game and makes a match of it!
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
December 14 2011 00:30 GMT
#55
such a great poster rofl
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brendaaan
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand77 Posts
December 14 2011 00:31 GMT
#56
great read as always!keep up the good work and i love the poster at the end!! keep em rolling naniwa!
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ambrosiaa
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore333 Posts
December 14 2011 00:38 GMT
#57
On December 14 2011 09:25 Treziel wrote:
Naniwa above Hero. Hilarious.

Other than the final game, he played 10x better than hero
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
December 14 2011 00:38 GMT
#58
Lol the art ahhahah
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 14 2011 00:48 GMT
#59
Is it finally time to consider Stephano as one of the very best foreigner and as one of the best player there is ? I think so. May the future discussion on his allegedly overhype be considered as moot.

Otherwise great write-ups as per usual.
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
December 14 2011 00:53 GMT
#60
The scarf made the picture great.
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Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 14 2011 00:53 GMT
#61
On December 14 2011 09:25 Treziel wrote:
Naniwa above Hero. Hilarious.

Rightfully so...

Anyway good preview, I do hope MC can pull through though .
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
December 14 2011 00:55 GMT
#62
On December 14 2011 09:12 instruMENTAL013 wrote:
"For anyone who managed to stay realistic" (during the Naniwa Leenock game)?! Tiggah Please! I, and I hope many other viewers, wish to see the outcome of that game if Nani would've taken down all the tech before leaving for the expansions. And I don't feel like I'm being unrealistic...

Leenock at that time had almost no need for that tech. His economy was to cripled to make high tech units anyway. He could only afford lings and banes at that time. Nani mistake was that he failed to take out the infestor hit squad that decimated his last mining base
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 14 2011 00:55 GMT
#63
On December 14 2011 09:48 Otolia wrote:
Is it finally time to consider Stephano as one of the very best foreigner and as one of the best player there is ? I think so. May the future discussion on his allegedly overhype be considered as moot.

Otherwise great write-ups as per usual.



Depend on what best player means. Top 10? No. Top 20? Probably. Top 30? Yeah
But I definetely agree that he's probably the no1/no2 foreigner along with HuK right now.
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aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
December 14 2011 01:08 GMT
#64
On December 14 2011 09:55 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 09:48 Otolia wrote:
Is it finally time to consider Stephano as one of the very best foreigner and as one of the best player there is ? I think so. May the future discussion on his allegedly overhype be considered as moot.

Otherwise great write-ups as per usual.



Depend on what best player means. Top 10? No. Top 20? Probably. Top 30? Yeah
But I definetely agree that he's probably the no1/no2 foreigner along with HuK right now.

i'd still take idra over stephano though idk why, i just have a feeling idra's mutltiasking/mechanics are stronger..personal bias probably xD

fantastic write-up! even though i didn't like naniwa's actions, i LOLed at the picture. took me a while actually to get what he was riding...
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Supert0fu
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States499 Posts
December 14 2011 01:15 GMT
#65
HuK is on an entire different level then any other foreigner. Could very well be the best protoss in the world. He just needs not go to every tournament >.<. I really dislike what naniwa did. Very dishonorable.
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
December 14 2011 01:15 GMT
#66
Nice writeup.

LOL at the Naniwa fanart
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Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
December 14 2011 01:24 GMT
#67
That last picture is geniously funny
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Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 14 2011 01:24 GMT
#68
On December 14 2011 10:15 Supert0fu wrote:
HuK is on an entire different level then any other foreigner. Could very well be the best protoss in the world. He just needs not go to every tournament >.<. I really dislike what naniwa did. Very dishonorable.

umm...After huk's runs in WCG, NASL, and GSL those assertions are absolutely ridiculous. I know you subsequently just blamed it on travel but still.
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
December 14 2011 01:29 GMT
#69
:O, I love the art, it's made to be a poster!

Nice writeup aswell .
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
December 14 2011 01:37 GMT
#70
On December 14 2011 08:15 Earlobe wrote:
I completely understand that clearly this was a super shitty thing to do. Naniwa was out of line and his frustration and cockiness clearly got to him. But what exactly is the issue here? Naniwa did something childish and immature because he was upset? All this means is that eSports are no different than every other sport on the planet. Zidan headbutted an opposing player. Ron Artest beat the shit out of a bunch of fans. Tie Domi sprayed water at a fan then broke his nose. These are professional players under stress expected to perform well and when they don't, they get frustrated and make insanely stupid decisions.

Now, is Naniwa wrong for what he did? Of course he is. He was essentially saying "Fuck this tournament I don't even care any more". Which is immature and childish. But do I think everyone needs to take it easy and relax? Yes. Naniwa is human. Although according to his StarCraft II play almost seems like an android. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, Naniwa made a stupid decision on a game that, as he made clear "didn't mean anything" and was trying to prove a point that didn't need to be made. Naniwa and Nestea will lick their wounds, shake hands and forget all about this soon. And so should you.

Well said Good sir
XastoC
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada59 Posts
December 14 2011 01:40 GMT
#71
Great writteup! the nani pic is amazing! GO LEENOCK / MMA
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power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
December 14 2011 01:43 GMT
#72
MC not conclusively better than Naniwa or Huk? PvT Shaky? Okay after a failed all in against the best Terran, I guess his PvT is shaky lol. We'll just ignore that aside from that one game hes been dominating Terrans left and right.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
December 14 2011 01:45 GMT
#73
I can't help but think waxangel is a protoss fan.
With his dead president article and now calling leenock a dick in zvp
lol
moo...for DRG
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 01:49:00
December 14 2011 01:47 GMT
#74
On December 14 2011 10:45 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I can't help but think waxangel is a protoss fan.
With his dead president article and now calling leenock a dick in zvp
lol

You gotta admit man he kinda is. :D jk but yeah but Leenock certainly has been ruthless with his ZvP style lately.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 14 2011 02:04 GMT
#75
On December 14 2011 08:15 Earlobe wrote:
I completely understand that clearly this was a super shitty thing to do. Naniwa was out of line and his frustration and cockiness clearly got to him. But what exactly is the issue here? Naniwa did something childish and immature because he was upset? All this means is that eSports are no different than every other sport on the planet. Zidan headbutted an opposing player. Ron Artest beat the shit out of a bunch of fans. Tie Domi sprayed water at a fan then broke his nose. These are professional players under stress expected to perform well and when they don't, they get frustrated and make insanely stupid decisions.

Now, is Naniwa wrong for what he did? Of course he is. He was essentially saying "Fuck this tournament I don't even care any more". Which is immature and childish. But do I think everyone needs to take it easy and relax? Yes. Naniwa is human. Although according to his StarCraft II play almost seems like an android. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, Naniwa made a stupid decision on a game that, as he made clear "didn't mean anything" and was trying to prove a point that didn't need to be made. Naniwa and Nestea will lick their wounds, shake hands and forget all about this soon. And so should you.

All this is true, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be repercussions. You do it, you should be punished. Should he be crucified like the Korean media pretty much is calling for? No. But there definitely should be repercussions.

But he definitely should not be treated as the next sAviOr as some people are calling for.
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floatingbee
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore61 Posts
December 14 2011 02:09 GMT
#76
Thumbs Thumbs up for the picture!
wildely
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2 Posts
December 14 2011 02:13 GMT
#77
I read TL daily but have never once been compelled to post until now: PLEASE make that art into a poster and sell it to me.
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
December 14 2011 02:30 GMT
#78
Lets go DRG!
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
December 14 2011 02:43 GMT
#79
Man thats a handsome nerd shirt if I ever saw one!
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
December 14 2011 02:43 GMT
#80
Alteredclone was pretty quick on the draw with that one. (heheheh, draw)
Horrible, cheesy puns aside, I really wish I didn't have to see MC vs. Leenock. I really like both of them and want both of them to win more than almost anyone else. Having to watch one of them tap out tonight is going to be painful.
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SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
December 14 2011 02:45 GMT
#81
Truly some great games. Just liked I hoped, MMA is doing great. I think Providence helped give him that push he needed. If all goes well he might take this! MVP will be a challenge though.
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1058 Posts
December 14 2011 03:01 GMT
#82
On December 14 2011 08:15 Earlobe wrote:
I completely understand that clearly this was a super shitty thing to do. Naniwa was out of line and his frustration and cockiness clearly got to him. But what exactly is the issue here? Naniwa did something childish and immature because he was upset? All this means is that eSports are no different than every other sport on the planet. Zidan headbutted an opposing player. Ron Artest beat the shit out of a bunch of fans. Tie Domi sprayed water at a fan then broke his nose. These are professional players under stress expected to perform well and when they don't, they get frustrated and make insanely stupid decisions.

Now, is Naniwa wrong for what he did? Of course he is. He was essentially saying "Fuck this tournament I don't even care any more". Which is immature and childish. But do I think everyone needs to take it easy and relax? Yes. Naniwa is human. Although according to his StarCraft II play almost seems like an android. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, Naniwa made a stupid decision on a game that, as he made clear "didn't mean anything" and was trying to prove a point that didn't need to be made. Naniwa and Nestea will lick their wounds, shake hands and forget all about this soon. And so should you.

Uhh, kind of a strange group of examples to use.

- Zidane was thrown out of the game for the headbutt and suspended for three more (did three days of community service instead since he had already announced his retirement).
- Ron Artest was suspended for a 73 games, which resulted in approximately $5 million USD salary lost.
- Tie Domi was fined $1000 for his fight with the fan.

Now, Naniwa didn't fight anyone or hurt anyone physically. So whatever happens to him shouldn't be on the same level as those previous three. However, he did deny the fans from seeing an entertaining rematch with someone who is quickly becoming his rival. He also wasted a chance to further get into Nestea's head before a potential GSL meeting. Neither of those are my biggest dissapointment in him.

I'm not good enough to legitimately play for money. I can enter an open tournament, but I have no expectations of winning. Instead, I just play for pride. All I ever get to do is play for pride. Now here's Naniwa with an opportunity to play for pride and he chooses not to play. He might as well go up to everyone who isn't a tournament player and tell us all that our play is meaningless. That if he was in our position, he wouldn't play at all. It's a slap to the face of every casual player. Despite what he said during his departure from Complexity recently, it seems like the only thing that actually matters to him is the money. Once that's out of the picture, he'd rather just go home.

Despite all that, I can't really think of an appropriate punishment for him. There probably shouldn't be any official punishments. However, he certainly doesn't sound like someone who I'd ever cheer for. In the end, actions like this may cost him a lot more money than just one missed tournament prize.
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 03:20:35
December 14 2011 03:20 GMT
#83
Impressive artwork. Nice work, TL.
omgimonfire15
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States233 Posts
December 14 2011 03:38 GMT
#84
On December 14 2011 08:15 Earlobe wrote:
I completely understand that clearly this was a super shitty thing to do. Naniwa was out of line and his frustration and cockiness clearly got to him. But what exactly is the issue here? Naniwa did something childish and immature because he was upset? All this means is that eSports are no different than every other sport on the planet. Zidan headbutted an opposing player. Ron Artest beat the shit out of a bunch of fans. Tie Domi sprayed water at a fan then broke his nose. These are professional players under stress expected to perform well and when they don't, they get frustrated and make insanely stupid decisions.

Now, is Naniwa wrong for what he did? Of course he is. He was essentially saying "Fuck this tournament I don't even care any more". Which is immature and childish. But do I think everyone needs to take it easy and relax? Yes. Naniwa is human. Although according to his StarCraft II play almost seems like an android. But that's neither here nor there. The point is, Naniwa made a stupid decision on a game that, as he made clear "didn't mean anything" and was trying to prove a point that didn't need to be made. Naniwa and Nestea will lick their wounds, shake hands and forget all about this soon. And so should you.


He is human. So are the other people you cited. Unfortunately, they are also representatives of his team, sponsors, and fans. And all the players you listed got punished in some way. What people are angry at Naniwa for isn't the probe rush, its the meaning behind it.

Basically it was a giant FU to everyone, and that isn't right for people who follow him and believe in him. People pay to watch the tournament, and if you sing that contract, you better know what you're getting yourself into. And if he really cared about the game and his fans, he would play the game as a showmatch of use it as practice. Instead, he makes a selfish decision because the game, his fans, sponsors, team, etc are not his priorities while playing publicly in front of thousands of people. It seems as though when money is out, he stops caring while Nestea was prepared to give it all he had for his fans and for his pride.
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 04:03:03
December 14 2011 03:51 GMT
#85
liking these frequent articles.

oh and MMA MMA MMA
feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
December 14 2011 04:17 GMT
#86
Really enjoying these fast write ups.
Siaubunas
Profile Joined April 2011
Lithuania12 Posts
December 14 2011 04:21 GMT
#87
The Picture is AMAZING
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 14 2011 04:42 GMT
#88
LOL Naniprobes
Spudone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
December 14 2011 05:07 GMT
#89
That picture is awesome! This write-up was excellent, as always, and I agree with the predictions.

I want to see if Leenock has studied MC and will prepare for timing attacks or just go into another series knowing he should win.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
December 14 2011 05:10 GMT
#90
It's been a while since I belted out such laughter on the internet. When I saw that poster I was like, "Oh, this must have been made before Nani played... hm... what does... OH, ROFL."
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Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
December 14 2011 05:13 GMT
#91
Thanks for the new wallpaper!
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
December 14 2011 05:44 GMT
#92
dat art lol =]
i hope MC wins this tournament...
Long live the Boss Toss!
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 14 2011 05:50 GMT
#93
Polt gonna smack MVP around with dem Marauders.
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Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
December 14 2011 06:48 GMT
#94
Thanks for the write-up, the art is super awesome!
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
December 14 2011 07:30 GMT
#95
that art is just awesome (and nice read of course)
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DrZz
Profile Joined May 2011
Romania70 Posts
December 14 2011 07:41 GMT
#96
great art of naniwa!! :D
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d00fuz
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia129 Posts
December 14 2011 07:52 GMT
#97
That Naniwa art...needs to be a shirt lol!
KraeganWolf
Profile Joined September 2011
United States8 Posts
December 14 2011 08:07 GMT
#98
Alright...someone tell me please just how DRG and MMA got seeds into the Semi-Finals?
"Slavish adherance to formal ritual is a sign one has nothing better to think about."
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 14 2011 08:28 GMT
#99
On December 14 2011 17:07 KraeganWolf wrote:
Alright...someone tell me please just how DRG and MMA got seeds into the Semi-Finals?

They placed first in their groups.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
December 14 2011 08:38 GMT
#100
I never thought a probe could look so sinister....
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SzaszaG
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary120 Posts
December 14 2011 08:39 GMT
#101
Does anyone care about Protosses could win Only 2 Games in the whole Blizzard Cup group stages ? ( and 1 was a PvP ! )

If Stephano goes for a proper 6:30 Roach+SpeedLing Timing, instead of a weird Eco Roach+SpeedLing one at 7:30, than Protosses could have won Only the PvP ! =/

Sad, but True imo.

(btw Naniwa's game threw away, and MC's luck getting into the Grid will make everyone forget about this... =*( )
(Blizzard had a Lucky-Lucky day yesterday, it would be a huge upset, if there were No Protoss in the Grid at all !)
(I promise, that I won't post this again, only if MC got beaten to 0-2)
KraeganWolf
Profile Joined September 2011
United States8 Posts
December 14 2011 08:44 GMT
#102
On December 14 2011 17:28 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 17:07 KraeganWolf wrote:
Alright...someone tell me please just how DRG and MMA got seeds into the Semi-Finals?

They placed first in their groups.



But Mvp and DRG had a tie score, both went 3-1...what was the tie breaker?
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Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 14 2011 08:45 GMT
#103
On December 14 2011 17:44 KraeganWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 17:28 Olinimm wrote:
On December 14 2011 17:07 KraeganWolf wrote:
Alright...someone tell me please just how DRG and MMA got seeds into the Semi-Finals?

They placed first in their groups.



But Mvp and DRG had a tie score, both went 3-1...what was the tie breaker?

DRG beat MVP in head to head.
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
December 14 2011 08:58 GMT
#104
Great Naniwa poster!
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Eboceixa
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium60 Posts
December 14 2011 09:09 GMT
#105
really nice artwork~

MC and Leenock were my favourite, sad they play each other in ro6...
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
December 14 2011 09:17 GMT
#106
hahaha that picture was amazing
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Drimacus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany92 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:25:55
December 14 2011 09:25 GMT
#107
Nice Art

Naniwa... I'm not angry or something because I payed to see the games, but I can not understand how Naniwa can throw a game away like this. It would have been perfect practice under tournament circumstances, against one of the best players in the world - so why not use it?
It never pays off if you let your emotions take over after a loss....

Anyway, Naniwa/Foreigners fightiiiiiing! (in Up/Down Januar^^ )
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:50:56
December 14 2011 09:50 GMT
#108
Great preview! Didn't expect the poster XD
Someone call down the Thunder?
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:00:39
December 14 2011 10:00 GMT
#109
Good Job Stephano !

+ Show Spoiler +
Stephano 1-0 HerO
Stephano 1-0 DongRaeGu

But DongRaeGu win vs MC :'(
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
December 14 2011 11:10 GMT
#110
A probe with a scarf ! :D MMAzing
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 11:21:10
December 14 2011 11:20 GMT
#111
To kick Nani out of Code S because of this is just ridiculous -.-
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
Drimacus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany92 Posts
December 14 2011 11:21 GMT
#112
I did miss it, just heard "naniwa" and "update"
What happened exactly?
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
December 14 2011 11:25 GMT
#113
On December 14 2011 20:21 Drimacus wrote:
I did miss it, just heard "naniwa" and "update"
What happened exactly?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=294713
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
jmertelj
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia84 Posts
December 14 2011 11:37 GMT
#114
On December 14 2011 20:21 Drimacus wrote:
I did miss it, just heard "naniwa" and "update"
What happened exactly?


Naniwa threw last game vs Nestea (7 probe rush), because they were both 0-3 and the game meant nothing. Naniwa was banned from competing in GSL 2012.
If I was a wizard, this wouldn't be happening.
TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
December 14 2011 12:28 GMT
#115
Yesss! That probe rush pic is hilarious!
"Pikachu and Protoss are both yellow, Coincidence?" ~apexMorroW
Shieldz
Profile Joined October 2011
Hong Kong18 Posts
December 14 2011 12:33 GMT
#116
naniwa is so bm thats why col dont take him now the he joined QxG i dont think QxG cares about his rep since he can join.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
December 14 2011 12:35 GMT
#117
On December 14 2011 17:39 SzaszaG wrote:
Does anyone care about Protosses could win Only 2 Games in the whole Blizzard Cup group stages ? ( and 1 was a PvP ! )

Yeah, I absolutely did notice that 2/3 Protoss players went 0-4 in the group stages, and the remaining one barely squeezed through at 2-2. The competition was fierce to be sure, but these guys are arguably the best protoss players in the world- you could make a case for Oz or Puzzle, but Naniwa, Hero and MC were definitely up there (sorry HuK, I'd like to mention you but you haven't been at the top of your game lately). While it's up for debate whether it's the race or the players who are at fault, this does not bode well for the sons of Aiur.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 14 2011 13:52 GMT
#118
Blizzard cup - MC's return to glory? Jesus I hope so.
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
December 14 2011 14:24 GMT
#119
When I saw that Naniwa poster Ride of the Valkyries started playing in my head.
Photoshop is over-powered.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
December 14 2011 16:28 GMT
#120
That's an incredible poster. o_o
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
December 14 2011 16:35 GMT
#121
nice writeup and i love the picture
made me laugh
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
doerrman
Profile Joined January 2011
United States11 Posts
December 14 2011 18:05 GMT
#122
lets go MC!! he is still the protoss president and showed us, in style, how to crush a greedy zerg player. cant wait to see more of his amazing macro play mixed in with some VERY well controlled timing attacks. MC fighting!! <3
universal truth is not measured in mass appeal
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
December 14 2011 18:28 GMT
#123
That Naniwa poster at the end was unexpected and had me laughing. Well played.
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
hdasdsah
Profile Joined April 2011
5 Posts
December 14 2011 18:48 GMT
#124
--- Nuked ---
Dimitrixs
Profile Joined December 2011
Costa Rica9 Posts
December 14 2011 19:41 GMT
#125
I am waiting to see nestea come back. Because he is not winning that much lately
For the swarm!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 14 2011 20:00 GMT
#126
I like how TeamLiquidWriters became TeamLiquidESPORTS :D
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
December 14 2011 20:05 GMT
#127
Oh god, MVP vs Polt. This will either be a great series to analyze the changes in TvT, or be a very depressing (All-too famous) MVP massacre.

For some reason, I don't want MC to win his game. He'll have to play against a Terran at some point then, and then we'll have another discussion on how weirdly imbalanced TvP is.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Juliiuzz
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway2 Posts
December 14 2011 21:30 GMT
#128
I'd love to see a Leenock vs MVP game! I think that might be exciting!

Funny picture at the end! I really hope naniwa will come back strong with a rematch against NesTea or something!
Rubahn
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada1 Post
December 14 2011 22:24 GMT
#129
MC, Naniwa, Hero....Bring us some pride for PROTOSS!!!!
Shaboygan Lagar! THATS HOW WE DO!
AsBan
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway94 Posts
December 15 2011 13:26 GMT
#130
Pretty sick that mvp thought of stephano of such a big threat that he did a allin build that was really risky and he didnt even scan stephano once during there game ''/
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