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[GSL] Code A Nov '11 - Week Two

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[GSL] Code A Nov '11 - Week Two

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November 13th, 2011 03:05 GMT
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Code A, Week 2:
Thinking Back, Looking Forward


Waxangel

Before I move on to this week's games, here's a few thoughts I had as I watched the first week of games:

  • The first week of Code A was largely devoid of surprises, with the favorites going through for the most part. The only real shock was a hitherto unknown Startale_PartinG defeating former silver medalist oGs.TOP, knocking him down into Code B.

    But even that was not so much of a surprise, because it's been proven that being the GSL runner-up is a pretty crappy gig. TOP is now the fourth GSL runner-up to get stuffed all the way back to Code-B, joining some pretty dubious company (current GSL status wise) such as Rainbow, Rain, and Inca. That's a pretty long way to fall for someone who was considered an elite Terran player just two months ago.

  • Tree.Hugger's crazy theory that strats get invented in Europe and perfected in Korea seems to be holding a little water. Alongside Stephano's upgraded ling-festor in ZvT (no, I don't care that Nestea used it in three games in the past), Mutalisks are gaining popularity in Korean ZvZ a few months after they became common in the Western scene. Playing on macro friendly maps like Calm Before the Storm and Daybreak, Minseok and YuGiOh rushed ahead towards the Lair stage to get their fliers. And just like in the Western scene, one guy decided to stick with Mutas for too long after Infestors were out and lost; go figure?

  • Seriously, I can't believe that Boxer is still good. Yeah, you can call me faithless. Watching pro Brood War religiously taught me this much: when people slump, they usually don't come back. Boxer's been through at least three major phases where he started to suck, took some time to reinvent his game, and became relevant again. It's absolutely mind-blowing that a guy who's been in the business for so long can put in that level of effort. I don't know if Dream is old enough to fully appreciate it, but that 90 degree bow he gave Boxer after their games was entirely appropriate.

  • While we're all raving about how great the new GSL system is because it gives everyone more opportunities to get into Code S, we've overlooked one, KIND OF CRUCIAL point. The gates into Code A are still locked tighter than MLG's prize purse. The situation might be nicer for the guys in Code A, but there's still great players like BbongBboong, Annyung, Puma, and Line among others who are fighting it out in Code B. Anyone who can come up from the preliminaries is deadly, and players like PartinG and CrazymoviNG proved as much. We should remember that going into the next few weeks, looking at match-ups with with supposed unknowns.

  • Oh yeah, the race balance. I don't know about you guys, but I enjoy watching ZvP without having the nagging feeling of "Why are you fighting each other? You should be allied against the common enemy." With seventeen Protoss, sixteen Terrans, and fifteen Zergs, this Code A Season has achieved near golden race balance.

    Anyhow, the recent resurgence of Protoss in Code A/S makes me wonder if the 1.4.2 patch is going to send Protoss beyond balanced, and push them over the top. All but one Protoss player has made it through to the next round in GSL so far, and we might even see a full seven out of eight Protoss players make it through to the next round in the next week of Code A games. Stay tuned guys; we're gonna see what kind of effect 1.4.2 really had.


With that in mind, let's look at week two.

(T)dignitas.SeleCT vs (P)NsHS_Tassadar: It's great for SeleCT that he's been playing on the Korean ladder for the last few months. Even though he is an amazing TvP player, good enough to completely dismantle SlayerS_ Alicia after barely a month in Korea, I would have been deathly afraid for him against cheesy, all-in adept Tassadar (and when I say that, it's no insult. I appreciate players who win games – especially those who win important games – no matter what they have to do). While the dominating macro wins are easier to remember, one can't forget that Koreans have made careers on punishing greedy, unaware foreigners with a variety of precisely calibrated cheese-rushes. Tassadar can play a pretty good standard game, but his all-ins are what make him particularly dangerous. If SeleCT has experienced his fair share of cheese in Korea, and doesn't let his guard down, then he should have a good chance.

(T)oGs.Ensnare vs (Z)oGs.Cezanne: Unfortunately for oGs, two of their old guard must face off in an elimination match where one player will be sent back to Code B. Considering the fact that Ensnare has spent practically every GSL season in Code S, you can't help but imagine that he'll find a way to heartlessly defeat his teammate as he claws his way back up. While I said before that anyone who can make it out of the deadly Code A preliminaries is a threat, we just haven't seen enough of Cezanne lately to go any further than that.

(P)MVP_Genius vs (Z)TSL_Symbol: To be quite honest, I don't really know what separates the members of the first generation of Protoss players. While the new kids on the block inject some flair into the way they play, not much distinguishes Genius going for a seven gate +2 blink all-in from Tester, Killer, HongUn, San, Ace, or Squirtle (and the list goes on) doing the same. While their determination to slowly and safely gather a 200/200 deathball might serve them well in PvT, I'm always a bit scared for those solid, workmanlike Protoss players when they go up against the more dynamic Zerg players that are proliferating as of late.

(P)NsHS_Sage vs (T)oGs.fOrGG: Well, there's karma. After I made countless snarky remarks about how GSL must have rigged the brackets for Boxer during the early seasons, now it looks like GSL is determined to prove that the brackets are entirely random and impartial by throwing two of the most anticipated players against each other in a first round elimination match. May I never make a negative remark about GSL again.

Now, to be serious, I haven't seen much of ForGG so far that has particularly impressed me. He was pretty good in the few ESV.TV weekly games I saw, but he was good within the normal boundaries for Starcraft II. He's another very good macro Terran from what I can tell, and not some harbinger of doom from the cult of Brood War, who will provide a glimpse of the unfathomable terror and ruin to come. That said, very good macro Terrans are pretty f***ing terrifying in their own right, dominating Code S for the last few seasons. Sage really has his work cut out for him here, and it's a shame that one of the two will be eliminated so quickly.

(P)HongUnPrime.WE vs (Z)oGs.Luvsic: Alongside Zenio, Luvsic (aka J) is an oGs Zerg player who is highly regarded by everyone in the oGs-TL house but has failed to get results on the big stage. HongUn is almost the opposite; a player everyone seems to underestimate but is capable of deep tournament runs nonetheless. Though I'm tempted to predict that HongUn is at the end of his luck, it's so hard to argue against his ability to cause upsets. While he's nowhere on the level of the logic-defying, reality-warping White-Ra, HongUn is on the same spectrum. Against someone as shaky as unproven, I have to go with the Code S veteran.

(P)TSL_JYP vs (P)QxG.SaSe: It's like Sage vs ForGG, but it's an even worse dilemma somehow. Not only are we guaranteed to lose one of our Protoss hopes, but a foreigner might go crashing out as well. I wish both of these guys could do well, but if I had to choose, I would have to lean ever so slightly towards Sase. When a guy drops everything, ignores the fact that he doesn't have a team, flies to a foreign country with the attitude of "f*** it, I WILL make this work," it seems downright wrong to root against him.

(Z)FXOLucky vs (P)coL.NaNiwa: How unlikely! A direct rematch from the first round of last month's Code A. In October, Naniwa showed that his one month of Korean training was not quite enough, going down 2-0 against Lucky. Now, some people are holding the fact that Lucky used a roach-ling timing heavily in his IPL3 silver medal run against him. I think that's a bit silly, when you could as easily say he is a player who can analyze his opponents and use proper counter-builds to ensure a deep tournament run. Naniwa is in for a tough battle, and he will really need to have made the most of his time in Korea to advance here.

(T)oGs.NaDa vs (P)SocceR: If the barely masked insinuation from MLG's Slasher is correct, then Nada has received his military summons and cannot delay his service much longer. It would definitely make Nada's poor form for the last few months make sense, as the prospect of being your country's indentured servant for two years can take the wind out of anyone's sails. While Soccer was absolutely abysmal for F.United in the GSTL, he came out of nowhere to earn a Code A spot through the preliminaries this season. As mentioned before, that makes him a noteworthy opponent for even the most hardened veteran, and this could very well be Nada's last stand.


Interview with FXOLucky


Waxangel

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Though Stephano stole the show at IPL3, there was another Zerg who made his presence felt. FXOLucky went on an incredible run to the finals, taking out three Slayers Terrans, even defeating the formidable SlayerS_MMA 3-0. Now he will attempt to reproduce his good performance in the Korean scene, as he has been seeded into the November Code A tournament. After making it as far as the up-down matches last season, Code S is his goal this time around.

Could you introduce yourself briefly?

Hi, my name in Lee In Soo, and I play Zerg for FXO under the ID FXOLucky.

Well, we can't start without talking without your second place finish at IPL3. Now that you've had some time to look back on it, what kind of experience was it for you?

When I went to IPL3, it was my first time abroad so I went thinking about getting experience more than winning. But as I played, I had some luck, and the games went well, so I got a good result that was above my expectations. It was so fun I still think about IPL3 even now that it's over, and it's a great memory for me.

You said you went to gain experience, do you think you gained anything that will help you in your up-coming Code A games?

This is my third Code A tournament now. On my second try, I was confident, but I had nothing to validate my confidence. But after beating some really good players on a big stage like IPL3, I'm confident that I can beat anyone I face in Code A.

So how have you been preparing for Code A? Do you think you're better than last time around?

I wasn't able to show a variety of play in the last Code A tournament, so I practiced more varied plays. As I played, I felt myself getting better little by little, and I'm having fun practicing.

Your first match is against the same opponent as the previous tournament, Naniwa. You won relatively easily that time, are you confident you can win again? Also, how would you compare Naniwa now to one month ago?

Though I haven't been able to show good games against Protoss, it's the race I'm the most confident against in practice, and I did beat Nanwia 2-0 in the RO32 last season, so I'm very confident. I saw Naniwa play at Blizzcon, and it looks like he has improved since we last played, so I'll have to practice harder.

Your group contains Naniwa, Soccer, and the last place player from Code S Group F. With this kind of line-up, do you think you can get through your group and take a direct Code S seed? Any opponents that would be tough? (Besides your teammate Oz).

After seeing the groups, and the new format that makes it easier to get into Code S, I think I should be able to get into Code S directly. For difficult opponents, I think Nada will be the toughest. He was a great player in both Starcraft 1 and 2, and he's always been good in Code S, so I think he will be a hard opponent.

You lost to SlayerS_Taeja in the previous Up-down matches, don't you want to have another shot at a SlayerS Terran four-kill?

I lost to him in the last up-downs, so the player I want to meet the most group F would be Taeja. And yes, I would personally like to try for the Slayers Terran four-kill.

As long as we're talking about beating Slayers Terrans, you defeated their reactor-hellion expands with a roach-ling push several times at IPL3. Was that something you had prepared beforehand, or was it just improvisation?

Because a lot of Slayers Terrans were competing in IPL3, I thought about it a lot at the team house. My teammate FXOLeenock was winning a lot of games against the reactor-hellion double expand with the roach-ling push, so I learned the build him and ended up winning a lot of games with it at the tournament. So I'm really thankful to Leenock.

The GSL Format has changed to make it easier to gain a Code S spot, and in reverse much easier to lose a Code S spot. What do you think of this change?

Because of the changes, I think players will try even harder to for the Code S spots, and there will be more fun games in the GSL as a result. Also, because there are more spots for for Code B players going to Code A, and from Code A to S, I think Code B players will try harder because of the increased opportunities.

There will be two direct foreigner seeds into the up-downs this season. They've been very good against Koreans in tournaments lately, so do you think they will be able to do well in GSL?

I think foreigners perform a lot of new, different plays from Koreans. So I think Korean players are losing to those new plays in foreign tournaments as of late. I think if they can prepare a lot of new plays before they come to Korea, then they should be able to do well in the up-down matches and get into Code S.

If you had to play Idra in GSL, or maybe get a rematch against Stephano, do you think you'd be able to win?

I received quite a shock after losing 0-4 to Stephano in the IPL3 finals, and I practiced a lot of ZvZ after I returned to Korea. At IPL I had beat HayprO and Ret already in the bracket, so I was confident in my mirror-matchup, but I really panicked after going 0-4 to Stephano. If we can play again, I'd like to have some fun games in Korea.

Do you plan to go to more foreign tournaments? DreamHack Winter and MLG Providence are coming up in November...

Personally I would love to play at DreamHack or MLG Providence, but our team's foreign tournament participation works through a rotation system, so I won't be able to compete this time T_T. But when it becomes my turn again, I would love to go abroad.

Any words for the foreign fans you met at IPL3?

I really want to thank you for watching my games, and cheering me on. I'll try my best to play entertaining games for the people watching me.

Any last comments or shout-outs?

Thanks to everyone who took the time to read this interview. Thanks to FXO's owner Josh, head coach Choya, and Slog who helped me go to IPL3. Also, thanks to Razer, and my teammates who stayed up all night to help me practice and watch my games.










Art by Fishuu



Writer: WaxAngel
Graphics and Art: Fishuu, Meko and Pony Tales (disciple and Lip the Pencilboy).
Editor: WaxAngel

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GhandiEAGLE
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Last Edited: 2011-11-13 03:41:56
November 13 2011 03:07 GMT
#2
Great writeup! I rly love the new icon ♥_♥ Although I will miss Losira kitty

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Ireland1061 Posts
November 13 2011 03:14 GMT
#3
Loved the interview with Lucky, he might be one of the most underrated players out there.

awesome fishuu icon <3
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Canada2214 Posts
November 13 2011 03:15 GMT
#4
Great job on this article. TL is a role model for all sites.
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Japan1333 Posts
November 13 2011 03:17 GMT
#5
Good article. I can't Imagine why you wouldnt root for Sase. Let's hope him and Naniwa meet In the finals ! (if thats even possible )
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United States1839 Posts
November 13 2011 03:20 GMT
#6
I really want fOrGG to win. I really liked watching his games back in the ESV games, but at the same time I love Sage.. :/
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Mexico2870 Posts
November 13 2011 03:22 GMT
#7
Amazing article, I also didn't know that NaDa had to go to the army, (I always thought he had gone already...) oh and LosirA drawing is awesome!

Well, there's karma. After I made countless snarky remarks about how GSL must have rigged the brackets for Boxer during the early seasons, now it looks like GSL is determined to prove that the brackets are entirely random and impartial by throwing two of the most anticipated players against each other in a first round elimination match. May I never make a negative remark about GSL again.


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United States4549 Posts
November 13 2011 03:24 GMT
#8
Nice wax also lovE losiracat haha
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Katowice25012 Posts
November 13 2011 03:39 GMT
#9
LosiraCat lol, nice stuff

digging the new CSS too
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November 13 2011 03:41 GMT
#10
Your section on NaDa vs. Soccer was insanely depressing. NaDa ... TT__TT

Great write-up though.
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United States315 Posts
November 13 2011 03:53 GMT
#11
Man when is FD/Alicia gonna happen Also they should just have Boxer playyyyy need to know the Emperor's fate! But good write up
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United States1268 Posts
November 13 2011 03:58 GMT
#12
Nice writeup and I always enjoy the interviews. It lets you get to know the players a little better.
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United States813 Posts
November 13 2011 04:14 GMT
#13
Cmon Sase! So much dedication it's hard not to respect him
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November 13 2011 04:22 GMT
#14
Sexy graphics, well done Meko.

Sage vs ForGG should be sick, can't wait!
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Australia8759 Posts
November 13 2011 04:31 GMT
#15
I'm more sad about Select v Tassadar than JYP v Sase, but I understand the point.

Looking forward to foreigner Code A week. Come on Naniwa+Select+Sase! =D
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November 13 2011 05:06 GMT
#16
Nada to army so sad TT
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United States446 Posts
November 13 2011 05:14 GMT
#17
Nooo NaDa ;n; Loved the Losira cat though :D
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Vietnam9021 Posts
November 13 2011 05:31 GMT
#18
Great writeup. I can't wait for these games.
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Canada938 Posts
November 13 2011 05:37 GMT
#19
Hmm, about the protoss balance part... I think that the reasons almost all the toss's advanced from their groups was a kind of a natural selection process for the race, where only the best of the best toss's were able to hold S class, and the rest dropped. When you look at the Terrans in code S (at the start of this season), it's much easier to pick out weak ones (eg. ensnare)
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United States6151 Posts
November 13 2011 05:38 GMT
#20
On November 13 2011 12:17 Robinsa wrote:
Good article. I can't Imagine why you wouldnt root for Sase. Let's hope him and Naniwa meet In the finals ! (if thats even possible )

It might not make sense to you, but some of us pick a team and root for them no matter what :D
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Canada4773 Posts
November 13 2011 07:01 GMT
#21
Losira cat lives on!
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United States17920 Posts
November 13 2011 07:32 GMT
#22
One day you'll interview Losira and there will be this really awkward moment when you don't know if it's in good taste to use a losira cat picture.

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Canada1024 Posts
November 13 2011 08:02 GMT
#23
The new Code S system is really good, but it should last longer with each match played being a best of 3. Hopefully they implement that in the new year!
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 13 2011 08:34 GMT
#24
Sad to see how we might not be able to see Lucky again for quite some time. The big foreign tournaments should definitely get rid of all those invitations and hold qualifiers. It's not only Koreans but I think several smaller teams in EU and NA are thirsting to proving their worth which is currently being denied to them because most of the bigger tournaments are mainly invitationals!
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Canada39254 Posts
November 13 2011 08:34 GMT
#25
The new background for GSL news posts is sick.
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Netherlands8351 Posts
November 13 2011 09:04 GMT
#26
First July and now NaDa perhaps aswell ouch, i will miss these guys alot it's kinda depressing but that's the magic of any sport old ones will be replaced by the new. Except for Boxer offcourse, we all know he will be there for many years to come.
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Scotland9300 Posts
November 13 2011 09:53 GMT
#27
Now, some people are holding the fact that Lucky used a roach-ling timing heavily in his IPL3 silver medal run against him. I think that's a bit silly, when you could as easily say he is a player who can analyze his opponents and use proper counter-builds to ensure a deep tournament run.

I don't hold playing to win against anyone. However, winning in the style he did proves far less in terms of lasting StarCraft ability as far as I'm concerned.

Not that he necessarily doesn't have it - obviously you have to be good to take 2nd at a big tournament no matter how you do it - but his play didn't show much except that he can execute a build FXO came up with specifically to beat reactor hellion expands, which were stupidly common in TvZ at the time.
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Netherlands1083 Posts
November 13 2011 10:06 GMT
#28
I received quite a shock after losing 0-4 to Stephano in the IPL3 finals, and I practiced a lot of ZvZ after I returned to Korea. At IPL I had beat HayprO and Ret already in the bracket, so I was confident in my mirror-matchup, but I really panicked after going 0-4 to Stephano. If we can play again, I'd like to have some fun games in Korea.

I don't think he knew his opponents very well. Haypro is just a level below the rest I think (in comparison to HuK, thorzain, nani, Idra, etc.) and Ret's ZvZ is bad and he hates it (just look at the BiB yesterday).
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Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands523 Posts
November 13 2011 11:21 GMT
#29
Great writeup, and a nice interview with Lucky.
I didn't really like him for kicking ret out of the IPL3 but he seems to be a nice guy
Still I want naniwa to beat him
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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 13 2011 11:23 GMT
#30
Great write-up.

Love the Lucky interview. There are so many match ups that I want to see.

Select, Sase, Nani obviously. Foreigners fighting.

JYP/Sase is so hard for me! JYP and SaSe are both so good.
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United States3075 Posts
November 13 2011 12:34 GMT
#31
I enjoyed this article
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
November 13 2011 12:49 GMT
#32
I think that everyone trying to claim the "invention" of a strategy as a geographical/personal feat should investigate his confirmation bias and his relative exposure to matches from different geographical sources/players. But alas, keep babbling about such things if you deem that entertaining.
That said, I have nothing against calling certain strats by the name of a player who made it popular, e.g. Stephano style for heavy infestor-ling, which is just a sensible way to be understood among peers. (I wonder if Koreans have a different name for Artosis pylons, or similar things.)
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 13 2011 12:49 GMT
#33
By the way, this will be protoss week! 8 games and 8 protoss in total, actually it's quite a wonder that there will only be 1 PvP!
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United States7481 Posts
November 13 2011 12:53 GMT
#34
wow can I just say that the graphics/css? for this article are beautiful?
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Canada1229 Posts
November 13 2011 13:49 GMT
#35
Fishuu you need to start making some desktops for us.
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
November 13 2011 14:02 GMT
#36
On November 13 2011 14:38 VirgilSC2 wrote:
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On November 13 2011 12:17 Robinsa wrote:
Good article. I can't Imagine why you wouldnt root for Sase. Let's hope him and Naniwa meet In the finals ! (if thats even possible )

It might not make sense to you, but some of us pick a team and root for them no matter what :D

No matter if Fruitdealer is not in tsl anymore huh?
(Look at your signature )
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
November 13 2011 14:33 GMT
#37
THINKING BACK


Who's the ThinKing? And was he ever really gone? What have I missed?
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 13 2011 15:11 GMT
#38
So sad for SaSe vs JYP, my two favourite protoss players in the GSL colliding first round

Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
November 13 2011 15:19 GMT
#39
Like the new style and the cutey cat graphic. Thanks for the Lucky interview also!
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
November 13 2011 15:26 GMT
#40
great preview and that losira kitty with a baneling is just too cute :D
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gotMilkshake
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden10 Posts
November 13 2011 16:12 GMT
#41
Amazing write-up! Also: Cutest SC2 picture ever in the bottom <3<3<3
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
November 13 2011 17:00 GMT
#42
Tree.Hugger's crazy theory that strats get invented in Europe and perfected in Korea seems to be holding a little water. Alongside Stephano's upgraded ling-festor in ZvT (no, I don't care that Nestea used it in three games in the past), Mutalisks are gaining popularity in Korean ZvZ a few months after they became common in the Western scene. Playing on macro friendly maps like Calm Before the Storm and Daybreak, Minseok and YuGiOh rushed ahead towards the Lair stage to get their fliers. And just like in the Western scene, one guy decided to stick with Mutas for too long after Infestors were out and lost; go figure?


Do people actually believe this?_?

Damn, I loved the writeup, but stuff like this si why we get dumbies saying that Koreans never innovate and are just mechanics bots. Mutas in ZvZ was popularized in Korea, by Nestea. Infestors you may have a point(but as you said it has been used in Korea before) but Mutas?

Hehehe, nitpicking aside awesome writeup. It just irks me that people act as if Koreans were incapable of innovation lol
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wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
November 13 2011 17:22 GMT
#43
Wow, I really enjoyed the Lucky interview, he seems like a really hardworking guy that people should not underestimate.

I look forward to Lucky's future and I hate to admit it, but I'll be cheering on Lucky over Naniwa.
Gameplay > Personality
fishuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States369 Posts
November 13 2011 17:31 GMT
#44
Yay, new graphics! Meko did an awesome job :D
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
November 13 2011 17:41 GMT
#45
'When a guy drops everything, ignores the fact that he doesn't have a team, flies to a foreign country with the attitude of "f*** it, I WILL make this work," it seems downright wrong to root against him. '

Truer words have never been written on TL! The only thing I love more than players who actually commit everything to get better is when it works out for players who commit everything to get better.

Go Sase! Go Naniwa!
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 13 2011 17:42 GMT
#46
LOOK AT THE LOSIRA CAT + BANELING !!!! IT'S SOO CUUTEEE! I love it, great writeup as alyas.
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Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
November 13 2011 19:40 GMT
#47
Awesome, really pumped for this.
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 13 2011 19:59 GMT
#48
On November 13 2011 12:05 Waxangel wrote:
He's another very good macro Terran from what I can tell, and not some harbinger of doom from the cult of Brood War, who will provide a glimpse of the unfathomable terror and ruin to come.
You called?
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
November 13 2011 20:24 GMT
#49
I really appreciate these write ups.

It helps a lot maintaining continuity and building stories for the GSLs, or any tournament for which they are written for that matter. I wish the commentators would bring some of this style into their repertoire, either through not putting in the work or through the sheer workload they are under, this kind of summary and information would go a long way to bring perspective to the often times disjointed GSL casting.

Personally, there is no way I am not going to read these on Team Liquid, so I guess it does not make much of a difference, I will go into the matches having an objective point of view or summary to refer to. But honestly, if there is anything that I really want perhaps especially the Code A casters to focus on and bring into the picture, it would be this type of story telling and finding a common thread to highlight.
TeCH_TT
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany63 Posts
November 13 2011 20:47 GMT
#50
epic icon: D
very nice interview thx enjoyed reading it.
envisioN .
Profile Joined February 2011
United States552 Posts
November 13 2011 21:15 GMT
#51
love ♥ the LosirA cat hugging a baneling at the bottom. Also, FINALLY a terran icon on the heading of the article instead of a LosirA cat or sad Zealot.
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 13 2011 21:17 GMT
#52
great write up .and it seems like there is going to be some INTENSE matches this week.
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Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
November 13 2011 21:33 GMT
#53
great write up and nice fan art at bot
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
November 13 2011 21:46 GMT
#54
Good article as always. Really hope the foreigners do well and praise to fishuu for the new and improved Losiracat.
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SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
November 13 2011 22:00 GMT
#55
I really enjoy reading these articles. I felt the same warm feelings with the noted lack of rampant T/P/Z OP talk with the balanced race statistics.

Hopefully the season brings about some really epic games!
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
November 13 2011 22:21 GMT
#56
Great write up, but I'm still sad fOrGG and Sage have to play each other in the first round of Code A.
Share_The_Land
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada152 Posts
November 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#57
Loved old Losira cat but new one is amazing well done! Yeah the matchups I'm the most upset about are the same as you, fOrGG and Sage and JYP and SaSe. I'm personally hoping SaSe and fOrGG make it through but I am predicting the opposite. Only time will tell! Really frustrating thought to see 2 players that could make an amazing final face off so early
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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
November 13 2011 23:29 GMT
#58
Unless NaDa graduates from university soon, then he shouldn't need to go to the army.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
November 14 2011 00:24 GMT
#59
Sase Naniwa SeleCT fOrGG fightingg!
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JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
November 14 2011 03:08 GMT
#60
Great article
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 14 2011 03:37 GMT
#61
Ah Lucky. No matter what where your career path goes I will always take joy in how you slayed SlayerS at IPL3. Unfortunately I still have to root for Naniwa to beat you :/
knightwulf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada174 Posts
November 14 2011 05:00 GMT
#62
oGs.fOrGG Has three different accounts in the top 10 on the korean ladder. Watch out for him
Swap
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden144 Posts
November 14 2011 08:46 GMT
#63
Great writeup once again! It's really nice getting some interviews with those not-so-well-known koreans.

But also, what I would like to see from the code A team is a little bit extra focus on foreigners. Since I believe its harder to follow foreigners once they go to Korea - can you do that job for us? :D

Yeah, of course I want extra focus on all swedes and all protosses!
he he... ja
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
November 14 2011 09:53 GMT
#64
Kpop is just weird!~
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-14 11:02:20
November 14 2011 11:02 GMT
#65
On November 14 2011 17:46 Swap wrote:
Great writeup once again! It's really nice getting some interviews with those not-so-well-known koreans.

But also, what I would like to see from the code A team is a little bit extra focus on foreigners. Since I believe its harder to follow foreigners once they go to Korea - can you do that job for us? :D

Yeah, of course I want extra focus on all swedes and all protosses!


I tried D: (A little)
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 14 2011 14:22 GMT
#66
How cute is that drawing of Losira and that baneling?
If I ever get a cat, and I might, I will call him Losira.
I had a good night of sleep.
crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
November 14 2011 18:15 GMT
#67
Why does Stephano always get credit for upgraded ling-infestor zvt? Destiny invented that style a long time ago, Stephano just used it to win ipl.
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
November 14 2011 19:05 GMT
#68
GO NANI GO SASE FOREIGnoR HOPEPPE!! AND SELECT TOO (he is considered a foreigner0
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
November 15 2011 05:46 GMT
#69
On November 15 2011 04:05 dnld12 wrote:
GO NANI GO SASE FOREIGnoR HOPEPPE!! AND SELECT TOO (he is considered a foreigner0


Err..... Games are already over dude. U should check out the [GSL] Code A ro48 D2 thread
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ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
November 17 2011 04:29 GMT
#70
Nice write-up!
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