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CrAzEdBaDgEr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada166 Posts
August 22 2011 22:28 GMT
#81
Great write up! I love all the stats.

One small pet peeve is that the OP mentions the community giving someone a >80% chance of winning, which isn't true. If 80% of voters pick one player as their choice to win, it doesn't mean that the community thinks that player has an 80% chance to win. It just means that 80% of the community thinks the player has a >50% chance to win (or is voting with their heart).

The vote could be 95% to 5%, but it might just mean that 95% of people think Bomber has a 51% chance of winning, in an extreme example.

Anyways, sorry for the anal sidetrack and thanks again for the post! Maybe we can even see the remaining Toto numbers when they're available.
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 22 2011 22:30 GMT
#82
terran has 1/1/1
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 22 2011 22:30 GMT
#83
On August 23 2011 07:12 Fermats_last wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 07:08 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Hmm, like this new angle of looking at everyone's votes. Korea always bets much closer it seems

Edit: Just want to point out, I'd be highly surprised if Nestea managed to beat Mvp (unless he went for a surprise bane bust).


Atleast in the Toto bets thats because it actually matters who you vote for. i.e actual money is on the line and the odds change accordingly apparently

Gambling is actually illegal in Korea, the toto bets use points as imaginary money.
Fermats_last
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
England336 Posts
August 22 2011 22:33 GMT
#84
On August 23 2011 07:24 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 07:12 Fermats_last wrote:
On August 23 2011 07:08 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Hmm, like this new angle of looking at everyone's votes. Korea always bets much closer it seems

Edit: Just want to point out, I'd be highly surprised if Nestea managed to beat Mvp (unless he went for a surprise bane bust).


Atleast in the Toto bets thats because it actually matters who you vote for. i.e actual money is on the line and the odds change accordingly apparently


not real money, but people are pretty serious about their toto points :o


Aww man, I thought it was proper gambling haha. Now I feel like an idiot....

High stakes korean Starcraft gambling would be pretty cool though :D
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
August 22 2011 22:35 GMT
#85
On August 23 2011 07:33 Fermats_last wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 07:24 Waxangel wrote:
On August 23 2011 07:12 Fermats_last wrote:
On August 23 2011 07:08 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Hmm, like this new angle of looking at everyone's votes. Korea always bets much closer it seems

Edit: Just want to point out, I'd be highly surprised if Nestea managed to beat Mvp (unless he went for a surprise bane bust).


Atleast in the Toto bets thats because it actually matters who you vote for. i.e actual money is on the line and the odds change accordingly apparently


not real money, but people are pretty serious about their toto points :o


Aww man, I thought it was proper gambling haha. Now I feel like an idiot....

High stakes korean Starcraft gambling would be pretty cool though :D


nah, bad stuff happened the last time around -_-;
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shackes
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany148 Posts
August 22 2011 22:35 GMT
#86
I guess the toto votes always end up further towards 50%, unless the odds are off.
MinimalistSC2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
August 22 2011 22:36 GMT
#87
Day 2 is gonna be fuckin EPIC
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10343 Posts
August 22 2011 22:45 GMT
#88
nice preview, i've learned quite a bit from the graphs like what you observed and commented on... i'm disappointed

(wow, still so many people think that Hong Un sucks? what's up? he's such a consistent player and has so many good results)
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Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
August 22 2011 22:50 GMT
#89
After a long and philosophical discussion with a Unicorn named Alabanza, I was told that with enough long, hard work, and countless hours of studying, I could find a magical secret within the depths of GSL Code S August unbeknownst to all except those concerned and an evil wizard named GomTV. After examining and searching through TL at great lengths, I think I have discovered that secret:

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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
August 22 2011 22:52 GMT
#90
Lol at Hongun vs July's voting. A bit biased?
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TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
August 22 2011 22:53 GMT
#91
Polt and Hongun got my vote! I also went for Virus, predicting an upset. Only time I went with TL when TL went opposite of GOM is with Huk. Is Nada still studying or is he playing full time?
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VTJRaen
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom238 Posts
August 22 2011 22:56 GMT
#92
Great OP! I know that my Liquibet on MMA over Polt is definitely heart over mind. I just want to see the guy win everything ever; so hardworking and genuinely likable. I'd love to see him really take up the mantle of SC2's own version of BW BoxeR.
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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 22:57:18
August 22 2011 22:56 GMT
#93
I voted for July for the upset against HongUn lol, I actually think believe HongUn's going to win >.>

But I gave up on going for any system in my liquibets since I've seen so many upsets!
Next Season I'm going to flip a coin for every liquibet and see how that goes lol
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 22 2011 23:01 GMT
#94
baller writer lol. Yes Terran has 1/1/1 indeed, no way Puzzle could beat Ruyng. And how could July has 80% vote against HongUn anyway.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
August 22 2011 23:01 GMT
#95
I disagree with the analysis of Bomber vs. Keen.

I don't think anyone can deny that Bomber is the heavy favourite going into that series. And the fact that Bomber has 96.5% of the vote doesn't mean that the collective TL community thinks he has a 96.5% chance of winning - it means that 96% of the people who voted, voted for the player they think has a higher chance of winning.

Enjoyable write-up though! Thanks for writing it. =)
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 23:04:28
August 22 2011 23:04 GMT
#96
On August 23 2011 08:01 Sarang wrote:
I disagree with the analysis of Bomber vs. Keen.

I don't think anyone can deny that Bomber is the heavy favourite going into that series. And the fact that Bomber has 96.5% of the vote doesn't mean that the collective TL community thinks he has a 96.5% chance of winning - it means that 96% of the people who voted, voted for the player they think has a higher chance of winning.

Enjoyable write-up though! Thanks for writing it. =)


Toto's settled at like 1:4 odds for Keen to win T_T
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flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 23:10:47
August 22 2011 23:09 GMT
#97
I just realized that if July, Nada, and Polt all lose their round of 16 match, then MC can maintain his spot as number 3 in the GSL rankings. This has me conflicted.

Edit: Nada and July need to win to overtake MC, while Polt needs at least 2nd place.
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CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 23:11:23
August 22 2011 23:11 GMT
#98
Lol what has July done recently to make 80% of Team Liquid pick him over someone who was just in the final 4?

Do people hate HongUn that much for whatever reason or does nobody pay attention?
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Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 23:13:11
August 22 2011 23:11 GMT
#99
On August 23 2011 08:04 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 08:01 Sarang wrote:
I disagree with the analysis of Bomber vs. Keen.

I don't think anyone can deny that Bomber is the heavy favourite going into that series. And the fact that Bomber has 96.5% of the vote doesn't mean that the collective TL community thinks he has a 96.5% chance of winning - it means that 96% of the people who voted, voted for the player they think has a higher chance of winning.

Enjoyable write-up though! Thanks for writing it. =)


Toto's settled at like 1:4 odds for Keen to win T_T


I don't know much anything about betting, but that seems pretty reasonable I think. =P

Bomber's only TvT series loss in 7 months (according to TLPD) was the collapse against Byun last GSL. Now let's never speak of that series again.

If we count GSTL losses in TvT, his last loss was to Ryung, 5 months ago.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
starstorm
Profile Joined March 2011
64 Posts
August 22 2011 23:14 GMT
#100
Poor Polt, going to have to win 10 GSLs before people give him credit for his skill.
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