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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 20:23:31
January 01 2011 20:23 GMT
#701
Enjoy everyone! We're as excited about this as you are and what better way to start of the new year?
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
January 01 2011 20:30 GMT
#702
TSL 3? for Starcraft 2?

FML , its about time.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
January 01 2011 20:30 GMT
#703
Since i am a pretty newbie to TL, i haven't heard of TSL. But serial, i already love this community so much now and seeing so much spam for just this tournament is making me soooo superexcited!!!
NYXinc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany74 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 20:33:03
January 01 2011 20:31 GMT
#704
Very good news for the community it sure will be an great tournament I hope we can see some fighting from Mondragon and I hope we will see many more TLS's in the near future.
I am hoping for 2 a year.
Remember living
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 20:41:54
January 01 2011 20:34 GMT
#705
On January 02 2011 05:17 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
If they were able to play in the TL opens u know what? it'd be a hell of a lot more than 13 players from korea. there would be almost none of ur favorite europeans/north americans. so actually THINK about the merits of this format.


No, travis. There is a misunderstanding. We're talking about Chinese, Taiwanese and Korean players here. Not the pro's of other nationalities living in Korea. It's a thin line.


why? thats totally unfair


I hope you realize how ridiculous this statement is. We know there aren't qualifiers for the Chinese and Koreans. That doesn't include players of other nationalities like I said before. HuK is still a Canadian citizen the same way IdrA is an American citizen. They have competed many times in many other foreign tournaments with minor problems. You can call it reverse racism all you want, but we're talking about equal opportunity here (no pun intended). The lat going from Europe to the Asia server really isn't that bad. Players like IdrA and ret for instance, should have no problem qualifying for the tournament. Yet, they are receiving the same treatment as players who earned their spots like Tyler and Mondi. Of the three players I mentioned only one of them qualified for the next GSL.


wtf does it matter if they are asian or not. the issue is where they are based. jesus christ
this isn't the olympics where nationality matters this is an e-sport where you log on the freakin internet and play the game


I have no problem with inviting players from the Asia as long as they:

- citizens of their country
- don't speak English
- don't have access to the Europe Server(lat is ok)/ NA (lat is dreadful)
- other network problems not allowing them to compete

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. It's TL's tournament after all. I'm really interested to see how you guys go about selecting the actual Koreans/Chinese/Taiwanese/etc. players.


dude, what does it matter if they are citizens of the country not
wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING

what does it matter if they speak english
obviously most asians will not have secondary accounts to play on EU with

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



i can't believe ur actually suggesting that tl should somehow find out whether or not each individual KR server player is able to log onto EU and play in qualifers and then only invite OTHER players. how do you not see how incredibly unfeasable/stupid that is

or are you actually just saying that ONLY the white guys in korea should have to log onto EU at weird times to spend hours upon hours trying to qualify with only half the qualifiers as opportunities despite there being numerous koreans(some of them in the house with them) that could easily be doing the same thing?




edit: i went through and edited out all my caps. u successfully frustrated the hell out of me
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
January 01 2011 20:34 GMT
#706
TeamLiquid <3
@Munck
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 20:50:38
January 01 2011 20:48 GMT
#707
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 02 2011 05:34 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 05:17 StarStruck wrote:
If they were able to play in the TL opens u know what? it'd be a hell of a lot more than 13 players from korea. there would be almost none of ur favorite europeans/north americans. so actually THINK about the merits of this format.


No, travis. There is a misunderstanding. We're talking about Chinese, Taiwanese and Korean players here. Not the pro's of other nationalities living in Korea. It's a thin line.


why? thats totally unfair

Show nested quote +

I hope you realize how ridiculous this statement is. We know there aren't qualifiers for the Chinese and Koreans. That doesn't include players of other nationalities like I said before. HuK is still a Canadian citizen the same way IdrA is an American citizen. They have competed many times in many other foreign tournaments with minor problems. You can call it reverse racism all you want, but we're talking about equal opportunity here (no pun intended). The lat going from Europe to the Asia server really isn't that bad. Players like IdrA and ret for instance, should have no problem qualifying for the tournament. Yet, they are receiving the same treatment as players who earned their spots like Tyler and Mondi. Of the three players I mentioned only one of them qualified for the next GSL.


wtf does it matter if they are asian or not. the issue is where they are based. jesus christ
this isn't the olympics where nationality matters this is an e-sport where you log on the freakin internet and play the game

Show nested quote +

I have no problem with inviting players from the Asia as long as they:

- citizens of their country
- don't speak English
- don't have access to the Europe Server(lat is ok)/ NA (lat is dreadful)
- other network problems not allowing them to compete

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. It's TL's tournament after all. I'm really interested to see how you guys go about selecting the actual Koreans/Chinese/Taiwanese/etc. players.


dude, what does it matter if they are citizens of the country not
wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING

what does it matter if they speak english
obviously most asians will not have secondary accounts to play on EU with

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



i can't believe ur actually suggesting that tl should somehow find out whether or not each individual KR server player is able to log onto EU and play in qualifers and then only invite OTHER players. how do you not see how incredibly unfeasable/stupid that is

or are you actually just saying that ONLY the white guys in korea should have to log onto EU at weird times to spend hours upon hours trying to qualify with only half the qualifiers as opportunities despite there being numerous koreans(some of them in the house with them) that could easily be doing the same thing?




edit: i went through and edited out all my caps. u successfully frustrated the hell out of me


"""""wtf does it matter if they are asian or not. the issue is where they are based""""

So are you saying the EU/NA players (Jinro, ret, huk, idra and haypro) in korea will not have a higher chance of being one of those 13 invited then other top koreans.
Phee
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom29 Posts
January 01 2011 20:50 GMT
#708
HELL ITS ABOUT TIME.
Phee - MaximusBrood
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 20:56:35
January 01 2011 20:55 GMT
#709
On January 02 2011 05:48 TaKemE wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 02 2011 05:34 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 05:17 StarStruck wrote:
If they were able to play in the TL opens u know what? it'd be a hell of a lot more than 13 players from korea. there would be almost none of ur favorite europeans/north americans. so actually THINK about the merits of this format.


No, travis. There is a misunderstanding. We're talking about Chinese, Taiwanese and Korean players here. Not the pro's of other nationalities living in Korea. It's a thin line.


why? thats totally unfair

Show nested quote +

I hope you realize how ridiculous this statement is. We know there aren't qualifiers for the Chinese and Koreans. That doesn't include players of other nationalities like I said before. HuK is still a Canadian citizen the same way IdrA is an American citizen. They have competed many times in many other foreign tournaments with minor problems. You can call it reverse racism all you want, but we're talking about equal opportunity here (no pun intended). The lat going from Europe to the Asia server really isn't that bad. Players like IdrA and ret for instance, should have no problem qualifying for the tournament. Yet, they are receiving the same treatment as players who earned their spots like Tyler and Mondi. Of the three players I mentioned only one of them qualified for the next GSL.


wtf does it matter if they are asian or not. the issue is where they are based. jesus christ
this isn't the olympics where nationality matters this is an e-sport where you log on the freakin internet and play the game

Show nested quote +

I have no problem with inviting players from the Asia as long as they:

- citizens of their country
- don't speak English
- don't have access to the Europe Server(lat is ok)/ NA (lat is dreadful)
- other network problems not allowing them to compete

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. It's TL's tournament after all. I'm really interested to see how you guys go about selecting the actual Koreans/Chinese/Taiwanese/etc. players.


dude, what does it matter if they are citizens of the country not
wtf does that have to do with ANYTHING

what does it matter if they speak english
obviously most asians will not have secondary accounts to play on EU with

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



i can't believe ur actually suggesting that tl should somehow find out whether or not each individual KR server player is able to log onto EU and play in qualifers and then only invite OTHER players. how do you not see how incredibly unfeasable/stupid that is

or are you actually just saying that ONLY the white guys in korea should have to log onto EU at weird times to spend hours upon hours trying to qualify with only half the qualifiers as opportunities despite there being numerous koreans(some of them in the house with them) that could easily be doing the same thing?




edit: i went through and edited out all my caps. u successfully frustrated the hell out of me


"""""wtf does it matter if they are asian or not. the issue is where they are based""""

So are you saying the EU/NA players (Jinro, ret, huk, idra and haypro) in korea will not have a higher chance of being one of those 13 invited then other top koreans.


I have no clue who is going to be invited, but I think odds are at least a couple of them will be liquid players, and i am sure idra will be invited because he is one of the most consistent top players and has performed well in other TSLs. Jinro clearly deserves to be invited, and I suspect ret would be invited as he made code A and also has a history of good performances in TSLs.

Now guess what, if haypro, or huk, or idra or one of the other liquid players isn't invited then THEY HAVE NO WAY TO QUALIFY. so it's not like there is no downside for them. which sucks because im sure all of them aree good enough to qualify.
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
January 01 2011 21:02 GMT
#710
Very well organised, props !

Let's see how the korean and Mondragon do...
Brood War is forever
funnybananaman
Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
January 01 2011 21:08 GMT
#711
Well i liked the teaser video :/
I would be so hyped if this was for brood war, this whole announcement brings back a lot of good memories.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 21:14:25
January 01 2011 21:09 GMT
#712
Just came out of the shower and had more time to think about it, but you know what? Let's just drop that issue and be happy that more foreigners will be competing.

There's another issue that deserves more attention. We know Tyler, Mondi and sen are seeded. We also know you guys have a point system in place for the guys who didn't win an Open. How do you guys plan to seed/slot the other players and invitees? You guys talk about the round of 32, so I guess there won't be a group stage and you'll bracket the players right away. I have no clue how you guys plan on seeding 4-32. Will there be some sort of draft or are you guys going to auto-generate the brackets? I cannot imagine let's say Tyler having to play against someone like FruitDealer in the Ro32 because that wouldn't be very fair for the number 1 seed. Can you guys explain it any further, or do we have to wait? The point system only works for the bottom of the barrel. I can see some pretty wicked match-ups arising from the players who won the EU/NA Opens and the invitees.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
January 01 2011 21:13 GMT
#713
Open Teamliquid and a strange Youtube video comes on. AHHHHHHHH TSL best way to start the new year :D!! Yeaaaa hyper excited mode!
Sup.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
January 01 2011 21:21 GMT
#714
On January 02 2011 06:09 StarStruck wrote:
You guys talk about the round of 32, so I guess there won't be a group stage and you'll bracket the players right away. I have no clue how you guys plan on seeding 4-32.


now that's a good question

i wonder if it will be random. it seems like it probably will be
zs3000
Profile Joined March 2010
United States43 Posts
January 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#715
I love the format for this, great job guys
www.justin.tv/zs3000
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 21:25:09
January 01 2011 21:24 GMT
#716
Inviting Asians is far better than letting them play on NA/EU in the qualifiers. This is a pretty big prize pool with international prestige. You can bet oGs, Prime, Fou, TSL, etc. would all set aside a few hours to play in it, and honestly, they'd win most of the slots. Inviting them actually gives western players a chance to get to the top.

Our top pros are good, but I doubt they could take out 5 top GSL Koreans in a row.
ng
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)3 Posts
January 01 2011 21:25 GMT
#717
sick event TL! I truely love your guys and your sponsors!!!

Happy new year!!! <3
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
January 01 2011 21:28 GMT
#718
On January 02 2011 05:30 ScrubS wrote:
Since i am a pretty newbie to TL, i haven't heard of TSL. But serial, i already love this community so much now and seeing so much spam for just this tournament is making me soooo superexcited!!!


You should watch the second TSL! There was massive hype between Nony and Idra clashing, and the drama that unfolded throughout the tournament was great.
There is no cow level
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
January 01 2011 21:28 GMT
#719
checked the OP but didn't wade through 37 pages of responses... if we have both EU and NA accounts can our points from tem be accumulated into one score? or since imf rom NA will only my NA scores count?
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24813 Posts
January 01 2011 21:33 GMT
#720
On January 02 2011 06:28 RyanRushia wrote:
checked the OP but didn't wade through 37 pages of responses... if we have both EU and NA accounts can our points from tem be accumulated into one score? or since imf rom NA will only my NA scores count?

Yea you can accumulate both together as long as you are clear about which are your accounts.
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