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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 18:33:17
January 01 2011 18:32 GMT
#661
On January 02 2011 03:30 Gomas wrote:
I agree this is gonna be epic.

And I agree it pretty retarded that the Koreans get their spots like that. Its not even funny how racist that is, imagine giving Brazil and Argentina a spot in the Football World Cup, while no other South American nations can compete, and while the rest of the world has to earn their spot. Logistics or not, its retarded.


IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

there are white people, white guys! living in korea who will get spots. it has to do with the fact that way over 50% of the top sc2 players are in korea and there's no reasonable way for TL to run qualifiers there! why shouldn't they get an at least somewhat proportional amount of spots in the tournament??
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
January 01 2011 18:32 GMT
#662
On January 02 2011 03:15 TheMunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 23:28 TaKemE wrote:
Will these qualifier be the same 512 ppl tournaments you have been running the last few times? I mean bo1 seems like a bad idea whit so much money on the line.

Also will there be alot more reserved spots for pro players since alot will try to sign up now for sure?


-The point system where top 8 non-winner with the most point fixes this issue. If someone does well enough consitantly throughout the TL opens then that person deserves it.



-Reserve spots? There shouldn't be anymore reserve spots besides the korean invites and the seeded players. We need a tournament where the best players in the world are participiating and the opens will determine that. So I dont see any reason to have anymore reserve spots.

About the reserve spots, I think he is talking about for the Teamspeak TL Opens and not TSL3. In which case, if I'm not mistaken, pros are given priority registration, so that shouldn't be an issue.
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 01 2011 18:33 GMT
#663
Holy. Cow. HAPPY NEW YEAR! :D
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
January 01 2011 18:33 GMT
#664
On January 02 2011 03:30 Gomas wrote:
I agree this is gonna be epic.

And I agree it pretty retarded that the Koreans get their spots like that. Its not even funny how racist that is, imagine giving Brazil and Argentina a spot in the Football World Cup, while no other South American nations can compete, and while the rest of the world has to earn their spot. Logistics or not, its retarded.

Racist? Really? Maybe you should read the FAQ or some of Plexa's explanations instead of spewing nonsense
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Mereel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany895 Posts
January 01 2011 18:34 GMT
#665
WUHUUUUUUUU cannot wait. TL best
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Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
January 01 2011 18:35 GMT
#666
On January 02 2011 03:26 omgCRAZY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 03:20 StarStruck wrote:
I wouldn't classify Jinro, HuK and IdrA as Asian players, but I'm sure they're included unfortunately.

I was hoping that wouldn't be the case. I really think players who can qualify should have to go through the process like everyone else considering they all have EU, NA accounts as well and speak English.

:/


It seems unfair that those players would have to deal with server lag issues to try and qualify when they are all clearly top level players. I can see the argument but I cannot see a way around it when those 3 players have huge fanbases, are extremely skilled, and do not have the means to play without (at points crippling) lag.

I guess it depends on who gets the invites.

Do TLAF players other than Ret/Jinro get invites? Can that be justified if you are using the level of skill as the a deciding factor to use this system, surely there's better Koreans. If there were actual Korean qualifiers do any non Kor beside Jinro/Ret/Idra have a reasonable chance?

It sounds like it's set up out of convenience more than it is in the spirit of fairness or having an ultra competitive tournament. It's still gonna be awesome so I can't complain too loud, and i do understand how hard it would be to be running tournaments all around the world.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 18:40:23
January 01 2011 18:39 GMT
#667
This will be epic !
The only "problem" I see is if players like MVP, Foxer or MC are there they will roll over everyone. (this is not a real problem, just less suspense)
Well, there's a few months of preparation, perhaps they won't be as dominant anymore then.
Gomas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Poland311 Posts
January 01 2011 18:42 GMT
#668
On January 02 2011 03:32 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 03:30 Gomas wrote:
I agree this is gonna be epic.

And I agree it pretty retarded that the Koreans get their spots like that. Its not even funny how racist that is, imagine giving Brazil and Argentina a spot in the Football World Cup, while no other South American nations can compete, and while the rest of the world has to earn their spot. Logistics or not, its retarded.


IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE

there are white people, white guys! living in korea who will get spots. it has to do with the fact that way over 50% of the top sc2 players are in korea and there's no reasonable way for TL to run qualifiers there! why shouldn't they get an at least somewhat proportional amount of spots in the tournament??


I couldn't find a better word for it but racist. You know what I mean, nationalist in a different way than nationalist is normally used.

All the reasons you gave are subjective. Over 50% of top sc2 players are Korean. Where did u get that figure from? What's a top sc2 player? As far as i know, they might be better they might be worse. It doesn't matter. Certain players could get invitations because they are good, but not because they're Korean, and that's what's happening here. Korean's participated in some foreigner events, and they weren't dominating (eg. dreamhack). But even if your point is true, even if they are gods among men, and the whole nation deserves an 'invitation', based on the whole nations quality, but an individual players' then still I don't get it. This would not happen in any other sport.

I'm digging myself deeper into this but just trying to convey my thoughts. I understand u can't do it, but its still worth criticizing imo.
Giiyom
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada81 Posts
January 01 2011 18:46 GMT
#669
drool..
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EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
January 01 2011 18:47 GMT
#670
HOLY SHIT BALLS!!! Mondragon is not only going to play in this one but is actively practicing hard?!?!? SWEET!!! Gogo mondragon fighting!
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10009 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 18:51:07
January 01 2011 18:48 GMT
#671
On January 02 2011 03:11 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 03:03 TT1 wrote:
On January 02 2011 02:51 0neder wrote:
On January 02 2011 02:22 TT1 wrote:
the amount of koreans who are getting invites is way too high tho, 3-4 woulda been nice but 13 is so much

You don't support your argument with any reasons. Why isn't (close to) half and half fair? Are you afraid of playing against the best of Korea? You have to face them sometime if you want to be the best. The TSL is about the best playing against the best for the most entertaining games. Frankly, this could be the most exciting SC2 tournament yet in terms of the amount of top talent from around the world.


umm because their getting their spots handed to them and we have to earn ours?


what does that have anything to do with their being "too many" ? wouldn't you agree that there are more better players in korea?


ok.. its tls tourney/money so ill just leave it be, congrats to all the gosus in korea who are getting free spots
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TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
January 01 2011 18:51 GMT
#672
WTF THIS IS THE BEST THING EVA!!! HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE!!!
I haven't really heard of mondragon in sc2, it will be interesting to see how this turns out.
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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
January 01 2011 18:55 GMT
#673
YAAAYY Thank You TL, Thank you PokerStrategy. That's a way to start 2011 happy new year TL :D
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Attero
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada271 Posts
January 01 2011 18:56 GMT
#674
So I was just chilling on my computer reading e-mails and what-not. Then I was like, what should i do now? Then I decided to visit teamliquid as I normally do daily - and saw this. Happy New Year indeed. This is incredible. Sincerely, you guys rock!
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
January 01 2011 18:58 GMT
#675
happy new year!!! this is the best news evar!
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
January 01 2011 19:00 GMT
#676
Re-watching the old TSL intros, I'm so excited to see the new one for this season, and the if the finals could have a kickarse custom intro just like some of the OSLs?
I wouldn't know what do do with myself.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
butter
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States785 Posts
January 01 2011 19:07 GMT
#677
On January 02 2011 03:01 0neder wrote:
Asia players I'm hoping for:
+ Show Spoiler +
Sen
SlayerSBoxeR
Nada
Tester
JulyZerg
Kyrix
MC
Jinro
HuK
Idra
FruitDealer
MarineKing
HongUn

Sen
SlayerSBoxeR
Nada
Tester
JulyZerg
Kyrix Ret
MC
Jinro
HuK
Idra
FruitDealer
MarineKing
HongUn SangHo
+ Rainbow or Loner to complete the 13 (since Sen doesn't count)

Last night I had a bad dream that BitByBitPrime somehow cheesed his way to an invite D:
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debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
January 01 2011 19:12 GMT
#678
I think that they will probably invite Loner as well, good to bring some chinese audience in :D
WindOw
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden407 Posts
January 01 2011 19:20 GMT
#679
Nice, I've been waiting on this TL! <3 You guys.
And also creds to PokerStrategy for helping to set this up!

Can't wait!
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MuNkz
Profile Joined March 2010
Iceland90 Posts
January 01 2011 19:28 GMT
#680
YES!!!!! last tsl was one of the best tournyes ever! made me a huge tyler fan, all i can say is TYLER HWAITING!!!!! this will be awesome. also some day9-chill casting would be epic.
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