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Text byWaxangel
July 27th, 2010 18:56 GMT
A: (Z)EffOrt, (Z)Action, (T)Leta, (P)Bisu
B: (T)Flash, (Z)Hyuk, (Z)ZerO, (T)HiyA
C: (P)Pure, (T)Sea, (Z)Jaedong, (Z)Hydra
D: (P)Kal, (P)free, (P)Stork, (T)Fantasy

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by Flamewheel, Kwark, Motbob, and WaxAngel


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The Group Selection Ceremony

Examining the Groups

TL Podcast

Week One Preview

Finally, things are getting serious. The Korean Air OnGameNet Starleague Season II is here! Although the 31st season of the Starleague officially started a few months ago, ten years of history tells us that the most prestigious Starcraft competition in the world truly begins with sixteen progamers left.

With the round of 36 finally over, it was time for the sixteen finalists to take care of one final detail before competition could start in earnest. Although not as old as the Starleague itself, the group selection ceremony has a long history as well, and has been a Starleague tradition for over twenty seasons.

In this weeks coverage, we take a look at how the group selection went down, and then look at the big picture as the opening day of the Starleague approaches. On top of that, we even recorded a podcast, for those of you who need TeamLiquid even when you're driving, commuting, working out, or subliminally while sleeping.


The Group Selection Ceremony


by WaxAngel

For years now, the OnGameNet has held an event where the players participating in the Starleague are allowed to have a hand in the determining the groups of the tournament. The exact format has changed a few times over the years, but in general it allows the top four players from the previous OSL to have a significant advantage in selecting their opponents.

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Fantasy in front of the bracket board at the 2009 Bacchus Starleague. Photo courtesy of NeverGG.


Group Selection Format Explained
The current format of the Starleague group selection is a bit complicated, and even confuses the progamers at times. Here is a 'brief' explanation of how it all works.

+ Show Spoiler [Group Selection Format] +
To begin, the top four players from the last tournament are seeded into four separate groups. After that, a box is prepared with twelve colored and numbered balls that correspond to the remaining spots in each group. In turn, the twelve non-seeded players blindly draw two balls from the box and can choose which of the two spots they would like to go to (if a player draws two balls for the same group, then he is forced to go to that group). The order of this draw is chosen at random.

After the non seeded players are done placing themselves, the four seeded players can exercise the right to swap players. This goes in reverse order, from the number four seed to the first. The right to switch a player goes as follows. All seeds are exempt from being moved.

Each of the seeded players has a single "golden ball" player who they designate before the group selection begins. If a seeded player exercises his golden ball right, then he can bring the golden ball player to his group in a straight up one-for-one trade for another player in his group. With the golden ball, the seeded player gets to decide both players involved in the swap.

For example, let's assume that Flash is a seed, and he picked Killer as his golden ball player before the ceremony began. The group selection finishes, and it the groups end up looking something like this:

Group A: Flash (seed), Jangbi, Great, Gorush
Group B: Mind (seed), Hero, Stats, Killer

If Flash exercises his golden ball right, he could bring Killer to group A, and send any of the other players in his group to group B in return.

The seeded players can also choose to not use their golden ball right and bring any other non-seed player into their group. However, in this case, the seeded player has no power over which player is traded in exchange. Instead, that right is given to the seed holder in the group that is being taken from.

For instance, let's say in the previous scenario, Flash doesn't want to bring Killer to his group. Instead, he wants to take Hero from Group B, where Mind is the seed holder. In this case, Mind can't do anything about Hero going to Flash's group. However, Mind can choose between Jangbi, Great and Gorush to take to his group in return.


Group Selection Report
In true TeamLiquid style, we bring you a detailed play-by-play of how the group selection went down. If you just want to see what the final groups are, they're right below. However, the group selection process contains some miscellaneous points of interest, such as which pros are being avoided by other pros, which pros are considered easy opponents, the race matchups pros are confident in at the moment, and some general trash-talking and humor.

+ Show Spoiler [Group Selection Report] +

First pick: (T)Sea
Draws groups A and C, chooses C.

A: Effort
B: Flash
C: Pure, Sea
D: Kal

Both Sea and Pure are pleased with this pick, Sea looking to get some revenge for MBCGame's Proleague loss, while Pure doesn't seem to rate Sea particularly highly.


Second pick: (Z)Jaedong
Draws groups B and D, chooses D.

A: Effort
B: Flash
C: Pure, Sea
D: Kal, Jaedong

Jaedong brings up his great record against Kal, and his preference for playing Zerg or Protoss players.


Third pick: (Z)Action
Draws groups A and D, chooses A

A: Effort, Action
B: Flash
C: Pure, Sea
D: Kal, Jaedong

Action takes the longest of all the progamer to make his decision. He goes with group A, mentioning he wants to avoid Jaedong, who he thinks is the best player.


Fourth pick: (P)Bisu
Draws groups B and D, picks B.

A: Effort, Action
B: Flash, Bisu
C: Pure, Sea
D: Kal, Jaedong

Bisu says he doesn't particularly relish facing Flash, but it was the slightly more preferable group. Flash says he'd rather not face Bisu either, and says he will probably make a change that will separate them later.


Fifth pick: (P)Stork
Draws two balls from group D, no choice.

A: Effort, Action
B: Flash, Bisu
C: Pure, Sea
D: Kal, Jaedong, Stork

Stork is not pleased at having to face Jaedong, while Kal is glad to have another Protoss player in the group. Jaedong can't help but put on a huge smile when Kal mentions the possibility of making it a three Protoss group.


Sixth pick: (P)free
Draws groups A and C, chooses C.

A: Effort, Action
B: Flash, Bisu
C: Pure, Sea, Free
D: Kal, Jaedong, Stork

Free states his recent drop in PvZ form as the reason for his choice.


Seventh pick: (T)Leta
Draws groups A and B, chooses A.

A: Effort, Action, Leta
B: Flash, Bisu
C: Pure, Sea, Free
D: Kal, Jaedong, Stork

Leta says he prefers to play his best matchup, TvZ.


Eight pick: (Z)Hydra
Draws groups C and B, chooses C.

A: Effort, Action, Leta
B: Flash, Bisu
C: Pure, Sea, Free, Hydra
D: Kal, Jaedong, Stork


Ninth pick: (Z)Hyuk
Draws groups A and D. Picks group D.

A: Effort, Action, Leta
B: Flash, Bisu
C: Pure, Sea, Free, Hydra
D: Kal, Jaedong, Stork, Hyuk

Hyuk wanted to play ZvPs, so he went to the Protoss heavy group.


Tenth pick: (T)Fantasy.
Draws groups A and B, picks group A.

A: Effort, Action, Leta, Fantasy
B: Flash, Bisu
C: Pure, Sea, Free, Hydra
D: Kal, Jaedong, Stork, Hyuk

Although avoiding his teammate Bisu was the obvious reason to go to Group A, Fantasy preferred it in terms of difficulty as well.


Eleventh pick: (Z)ZerO
Draws two group B balls, but no choice anyway.

A: Effort, Action, Leta, Fantasy
B: Flash, Bisu, Zero
C: Pure, Sea, Free, Hydra
D: Kal, Jaedong, Stork, Hyuk

Despite the group looking difficult, Zero is still happy because there will be no ZvZ.


Twelfth pick: (T)HiyA
No choices remain.

A: Effort, Action, Leta, Fantasy
B: Flash, Bisu, Zero, Hiya
C: Pure, Sea, Free, Hydra
D: Kal, Jaedong, Stork, Hyuk

Hiya celebrates his birthday!


#4 Seed: (P)Kal
Golden Ball: Free. Kal chooses to exercise his golden ball right, and switches Free and Jaedong.

A: Effort, Action, Leta, Fantasy
B: Flash, Bisu, Zero, Hiya
C: Pure, Sea, Jaedong, Hydra
D: Kal, Free, Stork, Hyuk

The members of Group D are universally pleased with Kal's decision.


#3 Seed: (P)Pure
Golden Ball: Sea (already in group). Pure makes no changes.

A: Effort, Action, Leta, Fantasy
B: Flash, Bisu, Zero, Hiya
C: Pure, Sea, Jaedong, Hydra
D: Kal, Free, Stork, Hyuk

Having his golden ball player in his group already, and no real way to rid himself of Jaedong, Pure just leaves his group as it is.


#2 Seed: (T)Flash
Golden Ball: Hyuk. Flash exercises his golden ball right, and switches Hyuk with Bisu.

A: Effort, Action, Leta, Fantasy
B: Flash, Hyuk, Zero, Hiya
C: Pure, Sea, Jaedong, Hydra
D: Kal, Free, Stork, Bisu

While Hyuk is really annoyed, the four Protoss group seems okay with the new situation. Bisu seems to feel at least a little bit sorry for his teammate.


#1 Seed: (Z)EffOrt
Golden Ball: Bisu. Effort exercises his golden ball right and switches Bisu with Fantasy.

A: Effort, Action, Leta, Bisu
B: Flash, Hyuk, Zero, Hiya
C: Pure, Sea, Jaedong, Hydra
D: Kal, Free, Stork, Fantasy

Effort enjoys enjoys his position of power, and threatens teammates Bisu and Fantasy with the prospect of having to face each other (SKT is already facing a team-kill situation in the MSL). After wringing every kind of flattery and humbling comment out of the two SKT1 players, Effort appears to be unimpressed by their attempts to soothe his anger over CJ's playoff loss. After a great deal of teasing, Effort puts the duo in different groups, saying that he was just teasing them for everyone's entertainment.



Final Groups

A: (Z)EffOrt, (Z)Action, (T)Leta, (P)Bisu
B: (T)Flash, (Z)Hyuk, (Z)ZerO, (T)HiyA
C: (P)Pure, (T)Sea, (Z)Jaedong, (Z)Hydra
D: (P)Kal, (P)free, (P)Stork, (T)Fantasy



Odds and Ends
Besides the actual group selection itself, a major part of the ceremony has always been to give fans a glimpse at the personalities of Progamers. They are given frequent opportunities to speak throughout the ceremony, and the opening part of ceremony often features an entire segment based on the light hearted banter of the pros. This season, OnGameNet went with a lengthy four segments: Progamer Gossip, Progamer Dreams, Progamer Brain Maps, and "Dates" with the Stargirls (the eye candy in the gaming booths).

To be honest, all of the segments felt very contrived and childish. Nonetheless, they were all terribly entertaining. Come on, don't say you wouldn't enjoy watching Flash being awkward as he tries to talk to a cute girl. Milkis, the tireless translating tech, was on hand to translate most of these segments into English for our entertainment. Here's a little taste, to whet your appetite.

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A diagram of Hiya's brain. The central portion says "I'm actually better than Jaedong, he's holding my career back. A young talent like me has to be able to fly free!" Ok, it doesn't really say that. Or does it? Maybe you should make sure.


Check out the full post here: Highlights from the group selection.


The Official Maps

After running with just three maps during the round of 36, Polaris Rhapsody makes the cut as the fourth and final map for the round of 16.

Flight-Dreamliner Grand Line SE
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Eye of the Storm Polaris Rhapsody


Examining the Groups


Our expert team of writers got to work and wrote their in depth analysis of each OSL group. Then we invited the King of OSL, Kwark, to write about every player, because what's a TeamLiquid report without some brutally honest criticism?

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Group A: (Z)EffOrt, (Z)Action, (T)Leta, (P)Bisu


by Flamewheel

To me, this group seems the most balanced and offers the potential for the best games. Obviously, most of the attention is going to be on (Z)EffOrt and (P)Bisu since now they finally get to play the game that they were not able to play for the Proleague Playoffs. However, Action and Leta should be able to show us nice games as well, though neither is really known for getting deep into Starleagues. Since each player fights the other three in this round robin format, I'm going to give you my predictions at how things turn out.

(Z)EffOrt's matchups are all pretty solid, right? And by pretty solid, I mean he has phenomenal ZvZ and ZvP, though his ZvT (non-(T)Flash) makes me chuckle a bit. Counting the disastrous OSL tiebreakers last season where EffOrt seems to have broken the slump, EffOrt is 18-2 in ZvZ. If we look at (Z)Jaedong's ZvZ record for around the same time he is 18-5. Dare I say that EffOrt vZ, for right now, is almost like JvZ? The current ZvZ ELO agrees with me. Interestingly enough, (Z)Shine is third. I wouldn't have guessed that. Anyway, EffOrt is going to beat (Z)Action, and I say that with conviction.

EffOrt's vP is nothing to be laughed at eitherl; after Jaedong and (Z)ZerO he is third on the list for ZvP ELO, and even though he hasn't played many Protosses (in the last five months he is 6-2 vP) the Protoss he's playing against is (P)Bisu, who's currently on a 7 game win streak vZ in a time where ZvP is terribly imbalanced. I don't want to jump on the Bisu bandwagon, but I think Bisu is going to take this match.

And then we get to EffOrt's vT. Yeah, he's still fourth on the ELO list for ZvT (technically third, since Yarnc went bye-bye) but I think (T)Leta has a chance to harass him to death. EffOrt's good in straight up games and has the APM but TvZ imba and wraiths are tricky. Still giving this to EffOrt though, but in my eyes it's like a 60:40 at best.

(Z)EffOrt < Eye of the Storm > (Z)Action
(Z)EffOrt < Polaris Rhapsody > (T)Leta
(Z)EffOrt < Flight-Dreamliner > (P)Bisu

(T)Leta's cute. And he's got nice micro. However, I don't see him making it into the Ro8. Statistically, his TvP has been his weakest point. He had a rough enough time against Pusan in trying to make it into the Ro16 and was eliminated in the MST Preliminaries by Sky. Even though (P)Bisu is determined to run Archons into siege tank lines, I don't think Leta can take him.

Leta vs Action should be exciting; last time they met in Proleague (Leta's most recent TvZ match as well) Action walked away the victor in the late game, and they're playing on Dreamliner, which is 1-8 TvZ. However, Leta's got that 1 in a match against (Z)Kwanro, in which he abused the short air distance to wraith Kwanro to death. And even though Action is great at lategame ZvT, he's still very easy to kill off early on and Leta's got just what's needed to take this match.

(T)Leta < Grand Line SE > (P)Bisu
(T)Leta < Polaris Rhapsody > (Z)EffOrt
(T)Leta < Flight-Dreamliner > (Z)Action

Sorry (Z)Action, I have you walking away 0-3 from this. Your ZvZ is not impressive when compared to (Z)EffOrt's, and your ZvP is not going to stand up to Kim Taek Yong. Between you and (T)Leta, you'll be fighting for that single win, and I've already put down Leta to win it. After a nice early run, I don't think you're going to walk away from the Ro16, but hey, stranger things have happened still.

(Z)Action < Eye of the Storm > EffOrt
(Z)Action < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Bisu
(Z)Action < Flight-Dreamliner > Leta

And here we come to (P)Bisu. I haven't talked about him at all yet but I've already put him down to win 3-0. I'm not sure if he's out of his slump yet, but he's definitely playing some good Starcraft. As long as he remembers to use storm and not fail with Carriers, he should do well against Leta's weak PvT. EffOrt vs Bisu is going to be the match to watch, and even though ZvP imba, I'm going to say Bisu's going to take it. Just wait and see. Sorry Action, you're not EffOrt, you're not good at ZvP, and if Bisu holds out any random bust or all-in you may try, he's going to walk away.

(P)Bisu < Grand Line SE > (T)Leta
(P)Bisu < Flight-Dreamliner > (Z)EffOrt
(P)Bisu < Polaris Rhapsody > (Z)Action

So overall, I say Bisu and EffOrt advance. Which, of course, is what should happen. They are the two better players in this group and both have a good shot at being the 3-0 player.

+ Show Spoiler [Kwark's Conjecture] +
Effort, I'm sorry I said you didn't deserve the OSL just because your ZvT is awful. It doesn't matter, you're in the group with the weakest Terran in the OSL and your other two matchups are great. I'm still not a fan but you can at least play ZvZ and your ZvP isn't horrible either.

Bisu, what happened to you? You're not back, you're going backwards. That's not quite the same thing. You've regressed to the top notch PvP that won you most of your titles and your PvZ multitasking is as good as we remember. But your PvT reminds us why we don't play like that anymore. Please stop doing that.

Action? Who? Well, your ZvZ is good but your ZvT is bad and your ZvP isn't much better. You're just a placeholder. I'd like to say I don't like you, simply to churn up controversy, but you're not even on my radar.

Leta, what are you doing here? You had one short run where everyone was like "is he gonna be the next big thing?" but then we realised you weren't and you disappeared. This is kind of interesting because you're in a group of better players, none of whom are particularly good against T, so you could be a spoiler here and knock one out. Please don't.


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Group B: (T)Flash, (Z)Hyuk, (Z)ZerO, (T)HiyA


by Motbob
I love this group. Each of the six games has the potential to be really fantastic. (T)HiyA vs (T)Flash? Flash vs a management zerg? Flash vs a scrub zerg? A (Z)ZerO ZvZ? Yes, please. I don't really want to break down each potential game, but let's look at each player and what they'll bring to the group.

Flash isn't playing like the best player in the world at the moment -- that honor currently belongs to Jaedong -- but he's certainly one of the favorites to win this tournament, and he'll almost certainly make it out of his group. His game vs Hiya will go a long way towards killing the image that his TvT is slipping badly... or it might cement that image! We won't know until the game is actually played. His games against (Z)Hyuk and ZerO will be fun to watch, if only for the pleasure of watching efficient vivisections... though if ZerO gets onto 4 gas the game automatically becomes great, so I hope that he's able to do that. After a month of seeing Flash flounder against unplanned opponents (or, at least, approach a 50% winrate), it'll be nice to see him play with some planning beforehand.

I'm going to assume that Zero's disgraceful 0-2 exit from the MSL was the result of collapsing after Proleague ended and sleeping for 4 days straight. Otherwise, I'd be pretty pessimistic about him being able to display his trademark lategame play against the excellent opponents in his group. ZerO recently showed why any ZvZ involving him has the potential to become an instant classic when he played Great in the MSL Loser's Game a couple weeks ago, and he's always fun to watch when he gets 4 gas vs Terran.

Do you really expect me to analyze Hyuk in any meaningful way? Fat chance. That guy is more inconsistent than Loudog's story. I don't even know what to say about his style; from what I can remember, his style vs Terran is the fly-all-your-mutas-over-the-MnM-ball style. From looking over his record, it appears that he does a better job of preparing for specific opponents than against someone selected on-the-fly (like in Proleague), so that gives me hope that he might provide us with good games. I really hope that Hyuk doesn't advance; he's going to eventually have a bad game/series and be eliminated. Let it be now so that he doesn't ruin a potentially exciting quarterfinals/semifinals match.

Hiya is such a cool dude! His flamboyant style of play and bold ceremonies have earned him a lot of fans over the past few months. It also doesn't hurt that he's been playing lights out since the beginning of July. He really doesn't have what it takes to win against Flash and ZerO if those two are on top of their game, but if ZerO is still in a vacation-induced coma and Flash still hasn't switched back to Pocari Sweat, anything can happen. Hiya seems like sort of a generic Terran, but that's what everyone was saying before him vs Free game 4. I'll definitely be watching his games.

For obvious reasons, I think Flash is going to advance. Of Hiya and Zero, I'd say that Zero has a slight advantage since it seems that ZerO does better in matchups he can prepare for. So I'll predict Flash and ZerO to advance, and Hyuk to definitely NOT advance.

+ Show Spoiler [Kwark's Conjecture] +
Flash, bonjwa. Enough said.

Hyuk, SKT zerg. Enough said.

ZerO, moments of genius which temporarily distract everyone from the fact that you're mediocre. Still, you might get through your group as #2. Nobody will care though.

HiyA, you know what, I'm actually slightly fond of you. You're terrible but in a baby steps kind of way. You do a few things right and the tension rises and it's like "will he" "won't he". Your play is, to me, like a macaroni picture treasured by a parent. It's not very good though.


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Group C: (P)Pure, (Z)Jaedong, (T)Sea, (Z)Hydra


by Motbob

This is a group that is easiest to define. On the one hand, we have (Z)Jaedong, someone who will almost certainly 3-0 his group. On the other hand, we have (P)Pure, (T)Sea, and (Z)Hydra, who I predict will go 1-2 each, forcing themselves into tiebreakers that will probably go on for hours before someone breaks himself out of the pool of mediocrity.

Jaedong is Jaedong. He's the best player in the world at the moment, and he's the most accomplished player in the OSL. His style is the same style you know and love: aggressive when it needs to be; turtley when he needs to change it up; decisive and refined at all times. His ZvZ is still the best in the world, and his ZvP and ZvT are as good as or better than they've ever been. He's going to get to the finals unless he runs into Flash, guaranteed.

Pure is a genius. Please go watch Pure vs Pusan, a game that was played a couple weeks ago, and you'll see what I mean. Pure made the only decision that could possibly lead to a won game, as opposed to a draw, when he saved up 400 minerals and abandoned his base. He is really, really good at making the correct decision in his games and he's also very good at abusing game mechanics and keeping the overall flow of the game under his control. For example, when he gets an advantage in PvT, he doesn't give it up under any circumstances (see: vs Light a few weeks ago and vs Hwasin a few seasons ago in OSL). However, Pure will never ever ever beat an S-class progamer in a BoX. It's as if there's this ceiling that doesn't allow him to beat a gamer who is better than him. All he can do against really good progamers is to provide entertaining games against them (see: vs Bisu in PL playoffs). He has a chance to beat Sea and will probably beat down Hydra.

Sea is a noble figure in the world of Broodwar. When his team needed him the most, in the 2006 Sky Proleague Grand Finals, Sea came through against Gorush in the ace match and secured his team's place in history. However, Sea has a well-earned reputation for choking in individual leagues, and for a while was slumping hard in his traditional arena of choice: Proleague. At the beginning of this season, he suddenly became good again, and has become pretty darn good at all three matchups. However, I don't think he's going to overcome his individual league curse right after being eliminated from the Proleague playoffs.

Hydra is perpetually underrated. That won't change here. I don't know much about Hydra, and I'm not going to predict that he'll advance. If he does make it out of this group, he won't be just another A-teamer anymore.

Jaedong will advance, and if, at gunpoint, I were forced to choose one of the remaining three players to advance, I would pick Pure. His play against Light inspired me, and I think he can defeat Hydra.

+ Show Spoiler [Kwark's Conjecture] +
Pure is slowly bringing me round. At first I didn't like him and I made no secret about that. But his play kind of upped from bad to average and I'd never call a player bad if they weren't actually bad. You do make a lot of stupid mistakes though and you don't win games against good players. It's because you're average.

Sea, I still remember you as l'enfant terrible but it's been a while now. You're no longer a growing player to be watched and if you don't make something happen this OSL it'll probably never happen. Yeah, you're better than half the chumps in the OSL and I respect your play. But you need to make it happen in a starleague.

JaeDong, no introduction needed. You're playing fantastically and I'm hoping there are no upsets.

Hydra, you're the most outmatched player in the OSL and this is the group of death. I hope you lose, not out of any malice but just because you're out of your league here.


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Group D: (P)Kal, (P)free, (P)Stork, (T)Fantasy


by WaxAngel

In one of the toughest OSLs ever, group D appears to be the so called ‘group of death.’ It’s funny then, that all four players are optimistic about their chances. Alongside the rest of the group selection, it reveals a trend where progamers evaluate their opponents based mainly on their race instead of overall skill. How else could four of the aces on their respective teams be happy with facing each other?

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Stork is obviously Grimlok. Free is Sludge, because he's super powerful but dim-witted. Kal is Slag, because he breaths fire or something.

Kal's mind was in full-blown “at least I still have PvP” mode as defensive mechanism for his recent slump, which led to the odd sight where he was couldn’t stop expressing his glee at being in a group with Free, Stork and Bisu (before Fantasy made the fateful switch). Hopefully he went home and realized he’s facing some really good players.

Free played well to make it the OSL for the first time in his career, and it’s a surprise that it took him so long to get here. While he doesn’t have the best pedigree in the group, he’s definitely not wanting for pure skill. He has the skill and big-game chops to do well, but S-class gamers will be his bane as always. Free is great in a straight up fight, and he’s probably the best of the four at pure combat. However, he’s going up against three extremely clever players, who are easily capable of winning games without having to face Free in battles of evenly matched armies. It will be a test of Free’s strategic ability to get himself into a position where he can wield his strengths.

Stork is the best of the four, and the only OSL winner as well. After seeing his powers peak during his OSL win, Stork has been lumbering along rather unremarkably. I do think Stork’s PvP and PvT are always the most consistent of his matchups, with his PvZ being the decider of whether or not he’s going to be a real threat to win the whole thing. Interestingly enough, he lost to Baby(T) and Movie(P) to drop out of the last OSL, although I’m inclined to say that was a bit unlucky. I’m giving Stork a lot of credit for past performances, and I think with a group of only P and T, Stork can be almost as good as he was in 2008.

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Starscream: The eternal #2 man. Died trying to become #1 by force. Sounds like Fantasy to me. This has been another episode of 'WaxAngel caters to Generation Y'rs.'


Even though it’s an all TvP group, I don’t think you can say it gives Fantasy an advantage. Regardless of matchup, he’s facing guys who are very skilled. Say what you will about Fantasy’s TvZ, but it would have been much better for him to draw something like Hydra, Action, and Zero than this Protoss trio. I think Fantasy has an even chance in this group, no more amd no less.

On a side note, Kal and Fantasy will also have to worry about the important STX vs SK playoff match next week, and the player on the winning team will have to focus all of his efforts on the Proleague Final against KT Rolster. While it will certainly tax their stamina to practice for both OSL and PL, their relative declines actually help them out in this aspect. Since they are no longer sure-fire Ace match picks for their teams, they might actually have a few less games to practice for each week.

Recent results are a bit inconclusive as to who is the best in the group, but in the end, I predict Stork and Kal will make it out of this group. Even though Kal is going through a slump, I like how he matches up against these particular opponents. The differences in skill level at top level PvP are very minimal, so I can’t really say Kal is at a disadvantage there. Also, Kal tends to lose to opponents who overpower him in TvP, but he is much better against finesse players like Fantasy (see his series against ForGG last OSL!). As for Stork, I’m going to count on his years of being excellent at PvP and PvT to see him through.

+ Show Spoiler [Kwark's Conjecture] +
Kal, I've never really been fond of you because you're not as good as people say you are and your PvT makes me feel sad. Furthermore this is a tough group, fairly even with mirror matchups and strong opponents. I really don't care who gets through so whatever.

free, an average Protoss player. He has a surprising amount of fans which moved in after a few good series' a long time ago and they still haven't left. He's not the worst player in the OSL but he's not an especially important part of it either.

Stork, your play has been better of late. You're still not in the same league as JaeDong or FlaSh but who is. And at least you can kinda play PvT although it's not like you've been massively challenged. You're the best Protoss at the moment (despite having worse PvP and PvZ than Bisu ) so I'm kind of obliged to wish you the best.

Fantasy, a not awful Terran. I want you to go through simply because Flash isn't interesting anymore and I'm disillusioned with Sea. If Flash isn't going to be the only Terran in the round of 8 then you need to make it happen. You only have one matchup to practice though so good luck.



The writing team presents: OSL Podcast


Though our fingers had become but bloody little nubs after writing this week's news post, the TL writing team still felt compelled to create yet more content. So GTR and I (that's WaxAngel) decided the trendy thing, and got together to record a podcast. We discussed the minor controversy that OnGameNet and SKT were embroiled in over the date of the group selection ceremony, and then we moved on to wonder whether or not the ceremony is really even that necessary. After that, we had a nice discussion over tea about who would make it out of their groups, and eventually win the Starleague (hint: GTR didn't pick either Jaedong OR Flash to win).

Clocking in at around an hour it's a hefty little thing. I would suggest listening to it in small installments while you're on the can, or maybe playing it softly to your infant child so GTR's sexy Australian accent can lull your baby to sleep (and create a young Starcraft fan in the process).

Oops, looks like your browser doesn't support the audio tag yet. You can download the file manually: http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/GTR/OMG_TOOK_SO_LONG.ogg

So download it, already.


Week One Preview
This is usually where we'd have our previews, but we wrote them already up there! This box will have more presents in it next week, I promise!

Wednesday, July 28th - 18:30 KST

(Z)EffOrt < Eye of the Storm > (Z)Action
(Z)Hyuk < Grand Line SE > (T)HiyA
(P)Pure < Polaris Rhapsody > (Z)Hydra
(P)Stork < Flight-Dreamliner > (T)Fantasy


Friday, July 30th - 18:30 KST

(T)Leta < Grand Line SE > (P)Bisu
(T)Flash < Polaris Rhapsody > (Z)ZerO
(T)Sea < Flight-Dreamliner > (Z)Jaedong
(P)Kal < Eye of the Storm > free

Thanks for reading TeamLiquid's OnGameNet Starleague coverage!
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chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 19:03:59
July 27 2010 19:02 GMT
#2
Very nice read!

Can't wait, gonna be some fun games.

Edit: Everyone hyped about sc2, but OSL is still hype!
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
July 27 2010 19:06 GMT
#3
Cmon Zero and Jaedong!

Zergsssss (that arent aliens or clams)
Jaedong :3
Man.Magic
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
July 27 2010 19:13 GMT
#4
Good read and Kwark's conjectures rival my own for the match-ups listed.
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JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
July 27 2010 19:14 GMT
#5
Hoping for (P)Pure to provide more entertaining games
and advance hopefully :D
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Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
July 27 2010 19:20 GMT
#6
Love you guys, don't stop with our beloved BW. DON'T EVER STOP! <3
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
July 27 2010 19:22 GMT
#7
I love the podcast name :D

Let's see Jaedong/Flash/Stork/Bisu ro4, please :D
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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
July 27 2010 19:24 GMT
#8
For instance, let's say in the previous scenario, Flash doesn't want to bring Killer to his group. Instead, he wants to take Hero from Group B, where Mind is the seed holder. In this case, Mind can't do anything about Hero going to Flash's group. However, Calm can choose between Jangbi, Great and Gorush to take to his group in return.


Still reading though but Calm should be Mind, right?
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
July 27 2010 19:26 GMT
#9
Awesome write up! :D
This OSL is looking to have some awesome MUs. Again always hoping for a Jaedong upset
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
July 27 2010 19:27 GMT
#10
On July 28 2010 04:24 mucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
For instance, let's say in the previous scenario, Flash doesn't want to bring Killer to his group. Instead, he wants to take Hero from Group B, where Mind is the seed holder. In this case, Mind can't do anything about Hero going to Flash's group. However, Calm can choose between Jangbi, Great and Gorush to take to his group in return.


Still reading though but Calm should be Mind, right?


He obviously wasn't in a Calm state of Mind, sometimes your mind Flashes and you make a Pure mistake like that, probably requires a bit more EffOrt. Bisu is sexy.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
July 27 2010 19:27 GMT
#11
Great read, Bisu + Fantasy for OSL.
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Omegon
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden54 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 19:31:58
July 27 2010 19:31 GMT
#12
(T)HiyA is taking this 3-0. Nuff said.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11046 Posts
July 27 2010 19:43 GMT
#13
Generally feeling Kwark's conjectures.

Hoping for a Stork fantasy exit through to the next round. Can't stand fantasy, but he's certainly different.

Also he needs his heart broken again.

Poor JD and poor Hiya for not being in Fantasy's spot.
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 27 2010 19:46 GMT
#14
(Z)Jaedong + (T)HiyA + (Z)ZerO FIGHTING!
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Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States989 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 19:50:41
July 27 2010 19:48 GMT
#15
Really hoping for:

A: Leta, Bisu
B: HiyA, ZerO
C: Jaedong, Pure
D: Stork, Fantasy

And then...Jaedong will roflstomp Bisu and Flash into endless slump and HiyA will crush the other SKT1 member.

Finals should be Jaedong vs HiyA with a 3-2 result with the most epic TvZ's using battlecruisers, nukes, and queens. There will be a pre-game SC2 showmatch in a BO9 between the two players. The overall winner between those two should not matter. :D
n.Die_Jaedong <3
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
July 27 2010 19:50 GMT
#16
throughout the 6 years of watching starcraft, i believe this osl is one of the hardest with so many of the good players making it. group d is insane
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iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
July 27 2010 20:16 GMT
#17
I hope that Sea and Jaedong make it out. I'll be happy if only those 2 come out on top of their groups
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 20:19:34
July 27 2010 20:18 GMT
#18
Looking forward to (P)Bisu getting back his old ways. I think is going far this year.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
July 27 2010 20:26 GMT
#19
Please go away with that pokemon stuff, I feel positively middle-aged XX
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
July 27 2010 20:35 GMT
#20
Great Job! Thanks writing team!
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Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
July 27 2010 20:36 GMT
#21
had a very fun time reading this
awesome job guys great ..interesting prediction and funny things from kwark
lets hope for an awesome osl
go go go hiya and jaedong
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Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
July 27 2010 20:36 GMT
#22
Very excited.
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Profile Joined July 2009
United States381 Posts
July 27 2010 20:46 GMT
#23
The seeded players don't get Pokemon entries????
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 21:28:56
July 27 2010 20:54 GMT
#24
On July 28 2010 05:46 Gnabgib wrote:
The seeded players don't get Pokemon entries????

You can already see which pokemon they are in the previous four entries.
Edit: I need to learn to read.
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TheTeamLiquidTiger
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 27 2010 20:58 GMT
#25
JD and Bisu, Hyuk, and FANTA GOGOOGGO
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Gnabgib
Profile Joined July 2009
United States381 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 21:07:29
July 27 2010 21:06 GMT
#26
On July 28 2010 05:54 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 05:46 Gnabgib wrote:
The seeded players don't get Pokemon entries????

You can already see which pokemon they are in the previous four entries.


I haven't seen one for Effort, Flash, Pure and Kal. If that was a Ro36 thing, I understand. Unless I completely missed it... (checking other posts)
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 27 2010 21:09 GMT
#27
if ZerO gets onto 4 gas the game automatically becomes great


Sigged!

By the way, just as a nitpick, "JaeDong" with the capitalized D hurts my eyes

Great writeups but no pokemon omg 4/5
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42289 Posts
July 27 2010 21:28 GMT
#28
On July 28 2010 06:09 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
if ZerO gets onto 4 gas the game automatically becomes great


Sigged!

By the way, just as a nitpick, "JaeDong" with the capitalized D hurts my eyes

Great writeups but no pokemon omg 4/5

lol
But it's his name!
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42289 Posts
July 27 2010 21:28 GMT
#29
On July 28 2010 06:06 Gnabgib wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 05:54 KwarK wrote:
On July 28 2010 05:46 Gnabgib wrote:
The seeded players don't get Pokemon entries????

You can already see which pokemon they are in the previous four entries.


I haven't seen one for Effort, Flash, Pure and Kal. If that was a Ro36 thing, I understand. Unless I completely missed it... (checking other posts)

Ah, you are entirely right. I completely overlooked them.
I'll get on Waxangel about that.
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GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
July 27 2010 21:35 GMT
#30
Nice as always, I sometimes think these threads are a lot better than local newspaper!

+ Show Spoiler +
No pokemon today
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kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
July 27 2010 21:42 GMT
#31
bisuof/c
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42289 Posts
July 27 2010 21:47 GMT
#32
Having spoken to our resident pokemon expert it appears this is no oversight. We are saving them for something. So no worries, the final four will be revealed.
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Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
July 27 2010 22:08 GMT
#33
Please God. Please... Let this OSL be epic. This are the best groups I've seen in a couple of seasons so help these guys out.

I have faith.

Gotta love Kwark's analysis. Poor Hydra... Poor Hyuk

What would be more epic: Sea's first OSL, Stork's 2nd, Flash and Jaedong winning again?
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cloudica
Profile Joined May 2009
England43 Posts
July 27 2010 22:09 GMT
#34
No pokemon today

Transformers is better any day. Especially Starscream.

"Magic can never beat science!"

Good read. First Ro16 without Hwasin for how long now? (Incruit 2008?).
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
July 27 2010 22:18 GMT
#35
Wow, what I write-up. Thanks for laying it out so clearly with expert analysis, I'm *really* looking forward to this!
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Gnabgib
Profile Joined July 2009
United States381 Posts
July 27 2010 22:28 GMT
#36
On July 28 2010 06:47 KwarK wrote:
Having spoken to our resident pokemon expert it appears this is no oversight. We are saving them for something. So no worries, the final four will be revealed.


Huzzah! Keep up the great reporting!
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
July 27 2010 23:05 GMT
#37
BTW Waxangel your description of Kal's group situation was awesome <3
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
July 27 2010 23:07 GMT
#38
Also Bisu's first OSL would be the perfect ending ~
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Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
July 27 2010 23:13 GMT
#39
I'm so excited for Fantasy Vs Stork! I really hope Stork wins the OSL, he really deserves more than 1 gold in his career.
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dani_caliKorea
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
730 Posts
July 27 2010 23:40 GMT
#40
Kwark's Conjecture is quite dumb, it's just him complaining aimlessly about random players
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42289 Posts
July 27 2010 23:52 GMT
#41
On July 28 2010 08:40 dani_caliKorea wrote:
Kwark's Conjecture is quite dumb, it's just him complaining aimlessly about random players

I had an aim!
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
July 28 2010 00:05 GMT
#42
lmao Fantasy with a 3 protoss group. He's taking it 3-0 imo.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
July 28 2010 00:23 GMT
#43
yo motbob, sorry to bother you but you should see Pure vs Fantasy on Tornado before you declare that Pure never gives up a lead. That was a 99% won game and he lost to fantasy in epic fashion...
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
July 28 2010 00:24 GMT
#44
On July 28 2010 09:23 dRaW wrote:
yo motbob, sorry to bother you but you should see Pure vs Fantasy on Tornado before you declare that Pure never gives up a lead. That was a 99% won game and he lost to fantasy in epic fashion...

He also said that Pure doesn't win against players better than him, so...?
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 28 2010 00:47 GMT
#45
Ooooo, I'm liking this podcast. And I loved the write-up. ^_^
Oh, one thing though. It's either:
GTR didn't pick either Jaedong or Flash
or
GTR picked neither Jaedong NOR Flash.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 28 2010 00:49 GMT
#46
Wow this looks incredible, I wish I had time to read it all right now.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 28 2010 01:18 GMT
#47
hmm i think fantasy has a better chance than you're giving him but ... fine
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10340 Posts
July 28 2010 02:09 GMT
#48
Please keep Kwark out of these write-ups. His musings are awful.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9719 Posts
July 28 2010 02:27 GMT
#49
Did i mention that i couldn't have asked for better groups?
no?
well then let me just say that THESE GROUPS ARE AWESOME
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T.n.T
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 02:56:33
July 28 2010 02:40 GMT
#50
On the other hand, we have (P)Pure, (T)Sea, and (Z)Hydra, whom I predict will go 1-2 each

anyways, as i'm a really hardcore fan of Terran, i'll be rooting for every terran except maybe Flash, because he's not that interesting anymore. The only protoss i really like is free, and i dont mind Kal that much either. But the guy i really want to win is Leta. After his teammates threw games and got kicked out, and Hogil slumping and Horang2 not being extremely good, he's had to carry Hite on his back for basically this entire season.
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Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
July 28 2010 03:31 GMT
#51
Hoping for:

Group A: Bisu Leta
Group B: Flash, ZerO
Group C: Jaedong, Sea
Group D: free, Fantasy
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nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
July 28 2010 03:35 GMT
#52
FLASH!! haven't got to see him play for so long!! waited so long and it resulted in a cheesefest game against Violet.. Hope to see a great game vs Zero!
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42289 Posts
July 28 2010 03:50 GMT
#53
On July 28 2010 11:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Please keep Kwark out of these write-ups. His musings are awful.

As head of OSL I'll keep that in mind.
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
July 28 2010 04:25 GMT
#54
On July 28 2010 12:50 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 11:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Please keep Kwark out of these write-ups. His musings are awful.

As head of OSL I'll keep that in mind.

LOL

Kwark it's alright I for one enjoy your angry ramblings n_n! I thought they were very amusing and largely accurate.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32273 Posts
July 28 2010 04:59 GMT
#55
Good transformers references :p
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Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
July 28 2010 06:17 GMT
#56
I love these articles Good Job guys :D
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Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
July 28 2010 06:18 GMT
#57
Awesome writing. You guys do better work than any professional writers I've seen for other sports =p
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Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
July 28 2010 06:37 GMT
#58
Loved the podcast and great write up as usual

Thanks guys
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 28 2010 06:38 GMT
#59
I gotta say, I completely disagree with a lot of the things in the podcast.
Nice writeup though.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
July 28 2010 08:17 GMT
#60
Nice article.

JD has this OSL.

Just waiting to see how far Bisu can go. Hiya vs Flash will be interesting. Also hoping pure can make it outa his grp.
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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 08:44:59
July 28 2010 08:19 GMT
#61
On July 28 2010 03:56 Waxangel wrote:
On the other hand, we have (P)Pure, (T)Sea, and (Z)Hydra, who I predict will go 1-2 each, forcing themselves into tiebreakers that will probably go on for hours before someone breaks himself out of the pool of mediocrity.


I raged a little at this.

Putting Sea into a "pool of mediocrity"?! Blasphemy.

+ Show Spoiler [grammar nazi] +
On July 28 2010 11:40 T.n.T wrote:
On the other hand, we have (P)Pure, (T)Sea, and (Z)Hydra, whom I predict will go 1-2 each.


Why did you bold that incorrect "whom"?

(You would say "I predict they will go 1-2 each," not "I predict them will go 1-2 each." So you should use "who" rather than "whom."
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
July 28 2010 08:26 GMT
#62
im hoping for like a million tiebreakers so we can have more games!
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2230 Posts
July 28 2010 08:56 GMT
#63
Bisu got this
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Faraday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States553 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 15:05:43
July 28 2010 10:09 GMT
#64
+ Show Spoiler [OSL Day 1] +

lol action beat effort...bwwwhhaaaahahahaha


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PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
July 28 2010 10:56 GMT
#65
Nice article guys, cheers.

I'm looking forward to Bisu's PvZ, but like Kwark I still have some serious concerns about his PvT. I hope he heeds Flamewheel's advice and turns around his MSL Bo3 against Sea before heading into the OSL match against Leta. A big 24 hours for him inc.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
July 28 2010 13:03 GMT
#66
On July 28 2010 17:19 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 03:56 Waxangel wrote:
On the other hand, we have (P)Pure, (T)Sea, and (Z)Hydra, who I predict will go 1-2 each, forcing themselves into tiebreakers that will probably go on for hours before someone breaks himself out of the pool of mediocrity.


I raged a little at this.

Putting Sea into a "pool of mediocrity"?! Blasphemy.

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On July 28 2010 11:40 T.n.T wrote:
On the other hand, we have (P)Pure, (T)Sea, and (Z)Hydra, whom I predict will go 1-2 each.


Why did you bold that incorrect "whom"?

(You would say "I predict they will go 1-2 each," not "I predict them will go 1-2 each." So you should use "who" rather than "whom."

It was going to be "sea of mediocrity" but I decide that that wasn't very funny.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 28 2010 17:32 GMT
#67
Good read, lots of information.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
July 28 2010 19:33 GMT
#68
I agreed with most of Kwark's conjectures until he said if ZerO made it out of his group at 2nd no one would care . I would! ZerO fighting
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 20:03:37
July 28 2010 20:02 GMT
#69
On July 28 2010 22:03 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 17:19 matjlav wrote:
On July 28 2010 03:56 Waxangel wrote:
On the other hand, we have (P)Pure, (T)Sea, and (Z)Hydra, who I predict will go 1-2 each, forcing themselves into tiebreakers that will probably go on for hours before someone breaks himself out of the pool of mediocrity.


I raged a little at this.

Putting Sea into a "pool of mediocrity"?! Blasphemy.

+ Show Spoiler [grammar nazi] +
On July 28 2010 11:40 T.n.T wrote:
On the other hand, we have (P)Pure, (T)Sea, and (Z)Hydra, whom I predict will go 1-2 each.


Why did you bold that incorrect "whom"?

(You would say "I predict they will go 1-2 each," not "I predict them will go 1-2 each." So you should use "who" rather than "whom."

It was going to be "sea of mediocrity" but I decide that that wasn't very funny.


>=(

Sea is going to advance 3-0
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8080 Posts
July 28 2010 20:31 GMT
#70
great podcast guys. I think you need a 3rd person though for future casts.
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
July 29 2010 00:05 GMT
#71
Sea vs Jaedong will be interesting
DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
July 29 2010 14:48 GMT
#72
Great read. Nice work.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
July 29 2010 18:12 GMT
#73
The intro is so good. I hope Korean Air becomes the permanent OSL sponsor, they know how to put on a good show.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Vokasak
Profile Joined July 2010
United States388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 09:42:04
July 30 2010 09:40 GMT
#74
I get the feeling you don't give Action enough credit. I don't think he'll go 0-3...

Edit: Realized too late that the games are already over. + Show Spoiler +
I told you so? :S
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