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Progamer Ma: "I've never suggested match fixing" - Page 9

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Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
June 05 2010 07:24 GMT
#161
On June 05 2010 16:23 shucklesors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 08:36 avilo wrote:


someone mentioned it b4, but isn't it interesting there's no Protoss involved. Just conniving Terrans and Zergs.


yea.. when zergs and terrans are involved, protoss are rarely involved.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
June 05 2010 08:02 GMT
#162
MJY trying to save his sorry ass. As if betraying your fans isn't enough. He just needs to own up and apologize.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Spyfire242
Profile Joined March 2009
United States715 Posts
June 05 2010 08:54 GMT
#163
I want to believe.... but I (Z)Just can't .... I am sorry (Z)sAviOr
Entusman #55 Spyfire242!
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
June 05 2010 09:16 GMT
#164
I read 4 translated articles on the intratubes... I KNOW You are guilty sAviOr!!!
It's JUST like a guy who's guilty to say that he's not. Gawd.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
June 05 2010 09:21 GMT
#165
On June 04 2010 14:44 Milkis wrote:
It's actually not clear. But he's saying three things.

- Never suggsted match fixing to Hwasin
- "doesn't remember" suggesting match fixing to DarkElf "later on". He accepted that he did suggest match fixing to DarkElf "earlier on".
- Never participated in match fixing sites himself.

Those are the specific three charges that are being denied, what he's actually being indicted of, we don't know.



God, this stirred up such a hailstorm. How many of you just didn't read the above post (which is from the original translator of the article)?

Let me repeat this

Savior admits to fixing his matches, and all of the other charges, except:

- He never suggested match fixing to Hwasin
- He doesn't remember suggesting match fixing to DarkElf later on and getting refused, although he admits doing it once, in the beginning.
- He didn't bet on fixed matches, and doesn't know any betting sites.

Also, the lawyer that accepted all the charges was Justin's lawyer, and not Savior's.
Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Godstorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania845 Posts
June 05 2010 12:16 GMT
#166
Haha Savi0r is going out like he came in:a baller and an arrogant!MJY FTW!
"It's not that he's dumb, he's just neural parasited by a retarded infestor"-Day 9
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 12:55:04
June 05 2010 12:52 GMT
#167
On June 04 2010 15:40 Milkis wrote:
- Progamer Ma has accepted most charges, but said "I admit to betting on Progamer Jin, but I never suggested or coerced him to throw the match" (T/N: Yes, the two articles are a bit contradicting)

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=107434&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


fix: "hand money".
(i guess Ma claims he was mere a money-delivery in this case.)
though it won't make much differences for the whole charges,
when thinking of the relationship between them, how Jin will feel differently? imho worse :/
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
June 05 2010 14:31 GMT
#168
Compulsive Gambling,


Is this a crime in korea?
lol
compulsive gambling is more a illness than a crime..
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 14:53:00
June 05 2010 14:51 GMT
#169
On June 05 2010 23:31 LuDwig- wrote:
Show nested quote +
Compulsive Gambling,


Is this a crime in korea?
lol
compulsive gambling is more a illness than a crime..

CompulsiveInveterate (illegal :only implied but just a matter of writings) Gambling


Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
June 05 2010 15:03 GMT
#170
So maybe he hasn't done one out of the five things or so he has been charged with. He is still a criminal and his career is a thing of the past.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
June 05 2010 16:23 GMT
#171
On June 05 2010 21:16 Godstorm wrote:
Haha Savi0r is going out like he came in:a baller and an arrogant!MJY FTW!


Sorry, but savior is a poser =) Guy's the least baller guy I know.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
wadadde
Profile Joined February 2009
270 Posts
June 05 2010 16:43 GMT
#172
On June 05 2010 00:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 22:43 InTheFade wrote:
(Z)sAviOr: "Hey, I may be a jackass, but it's not like I'm some kind of jackass or anything."

Go away, please.

Where do you get that quote from? And a second question that is probably relevant: is making up quotes being jackass?


It's not "making up quotes", but rather translating the percieved (unspoken) message into a form which allows one to easily see what kind of an idiotic/desperate plea sAviOr is making.
It may just be that a lot of stuff got lost in translation and obviously none of us were at the trial.. Putting all that aside, I think the person you called a jackass made a far better case than you just did. Not that it matters. You were just being lazy and arrogant at the same time. Poor combo.
Apa7HY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States125 Posts
June 05 2010 18:03 GMT
#173
On June 05 2010 08:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Protoss don't win enough to get good odds on rigging. =(


This actually doesn't make sense, as the more someone is expected to lose, the better the payout for the odds is. That's why sAviOr made so much money betting against himself; he was the expected favorite in a lot of his games, but bet against himself and threw them to make money (since he probably got like 3 to 1 on his money, maybe more, I dunno how Korean sites work).

The Protoss players could have orchestrated this whole thing. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN
섹스섹스보지털
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 05 2010 21:53 GMT
#174
On June 05 2010 21:52 fw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2010 15:40 Milkis wrote:
- Progamer Ma has accepted most charges, but said "I admit to betting on Progamer Jin, but I never suggested or coerced him to throw the match" (T/N: Yes, the two articles are a bit contradicting)

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=107434&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


fix: "hand money".
(i guess Ma claims he was mere a money-delivery in this case.)
though it won't make much differences for the whole charges,
when thinking of the relationship between them, how Jin will feel differently? imho worse :/


Yeah, I didn't know what to make of the "낸". I thought it was just there as a connector or something.

Fixed, and thanks :D
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
June 05 2010 22:31 GMT
#175
Progamer Ma: "I've never suggested or coerced match fixing"

Continuing, Ma said regarding Progamer Kim under the AirForce, that "it is true that I suggested match fixing to him in the beginning, but I don't remember suggesting match fixing to him later on and getting refused."

lol what? i think someone is definitely guilty of something here.
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-05 22:53:21
June 05 2010 22:52 GMT
#176
On June 05 2010 11:50 LittLeLives wrote:
Savior is just some dude who is exercising his legal rights. Good for him.
Interested to see where this goes.


Yeah, I mean to those who are giving him shit for this, he's just trying to get a shorter sentence/ less severe consequence. Wouldn't you try to get in the least amount of trouble as possible if you could?

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The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
June 06 2010 02:05 GMT
#177
On June 05 2010 18:16 cursor wrote:
I read 4 translated articles on the intratubes... I KNOW You are guilty sAviOr!!!
It's JUST like a guy who's guilty to say that he's not. Gawd.


Coincidentally, it's also just like a guy who's NOT guilty to say that he's not. Hmm.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 06 2010 05:27 GMT
#178
. Furthermore, during the process where courts check the address, occupation, etc of the accused, while Won answered "currently unemployed", Ma attracted attention by answering "Progamer".


I love this man. Forever and always.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
fw *
Profile Joined April 2003
Korea (South)1201 Posts
June 06 2010 08:30 GMT
#179
On June 06 2010 06:53 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2010 21:52 fw wrote:
On June 04 2010 15:40 Milkis wrote:
- Progamer Ma has accepted most charges, but said "I admit to betting on Progamer Jin, but I never suggested or coerced him to throw the match" (T/N: Yes, the two articles are a bit contradicting)

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=107434&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


fix: "hand money".
(i guess Ma claims he was mere a money-delivery in this case.)
though it won't make much differences for the whole charges,
when thinking of the relationship between them, how Jin will feel differently? imho worse :/


Yeah, I didn't know what to make of the "낸". I thought it was just there as a connector or something.

Fixed, and thanks :D

FYI, 건넨 (base form:건네다) is correct.
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
June 06 2010 09:24 GMT
#180
On June 04 2010 17:07 Mastermind wrote:
I am so glad this has shut up all the savior fanboys who use to think he could have a come back.

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