On June 04 2010 14:44 Milkis wrote:
It's actually not clear. But he's saying three things.

- Never suggsted match fixing to Hwasin
- "doesn't remember" suggesting match fixing to DarkElf "later on". He accepted that he did suggest match fixing to DarkElf "earlier on".
- Never participated in match fixing sites himself.

Those are the specific three charges that are being denied, what he's actually being indicted of, we don't know.

God, this stirred up such a hailstorm. How many of you just didn't read the above post (which is from the original translator of the article)?

Let me repeat this

Savior admits to fixing his matches, and all of the other charges, except:

- He never suggested match fixing to Hwasin
- He doesn't remember suggesting match fixing to DarkElf later on and getting refused, although he admits doing it once, in the beginning.
- He didn't bet on fixed matches, and doesn't know any betting sites.

Also, the lawyer that accepted all the charges was Justin's lawyer, and not Savior's.

Godstorm

Romania845 Posts

June 05 2010 12:16 GMT

#166

Haha Savi0r is going out like he came in:a baller and an arrogant!MJY FTW!

Korea (South)1201 Posts

June 05 2010 12:52 GMT

#167

On June 04 2010 15:40 Milkis wrote:
- Progamer Ma has accepted most charges, but said "I admit to ~~betting on~~ Progamer Jin, but I never suggested or coerced him to throw the match" (T/N: Yes, the two articles are a bit contradicting)

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=107434&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

fix: "hand money".
(i guess Ma claims he was mere a money-delivery in this case.)
though it won't make much differences for the whole charges,
when thinking of the relationship between them, how Jin will feel differently? imho worse :/

LuDwig-

Italy1143 Posts

June 05 2010 14:31 GMT

#168

Compulsive Gambling,

Is this a crime in korea?
lol
compulsive gambling is more a illness than a crime..

Korea (South)1201 Posts

June 05 2010 14:51 GMT

#169

On June 05 2010 23:31 LuDwig- wrote:

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Is this a crime in korea?
lol
compulsive gambling is more a illness than a crime..

~~Compulsive~~Inveterate (illegal :only implied but just a matter of writings) Gambling

Doso

Germany769 Posts

June 05 2010 15:03 GMT

#170

So maybe he hasn't done one out of the five things or so he has been charged with. He is still a criminal and his career is a thing of the past.

PanN

United States2828 Posts

June 05 2010 16:23 GMT

#171

On June 05 2010 21:16 Godstorm wrote:
Haha Savi0r is going out like he came in:a baller and an arrogant!MJY FTW!

Sorry, but savior is a poser =) Guy's the least baller guy I know.

wadadde

270 Posts

June 05 2010 16:43 GMT

#172

On June 05 2010 00:18 Liquid`NonY wrote:

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Where do you get that quote from? And a second question that is probably relevant: is making up quotes being jackass?

It's not "making up quotes", but rather translating the percieved (unspoken) message into a form which allows one to easily see what kind of an idiotic/desperate plea sAviOr is making.
It may just be that a lot of stuff got lost in translation and obviously none of us were at the trial.. Putting all that aside, I think the person you called a jackass made a far better case than you just did. Not that it matters. You were just being lazy and arrogant at the same time. Poor combo.

Apa7HY

United States125 Posts

June 05 2010 18:03 GMT

#173

On June 05 2010 08:49 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Protoss don't win enough to get good odds on rigging. =(

This actually doesn't make sense, as the more someone is expected to lose, the better the payout for the odds is. That's why sAviOr made so much money betting against himself; he was the expected favorite in a lot of his games, but bet against himself and threw them to make money (since he probably got like 3 to 1 on his money, maybe more, I dunno how Korean sites work).

The Protoss players could have orchestrated this whole thing. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN

Milkis

5003 Posts

June 05 2010 21:53 GMT

#174

On June 05 2010 21:52 fw wrote:

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Yeah, I didn't know what to make of the "낸". I thought it was just there as a connector or something.

Fixed, and thanks :D

Rkie

United States1278 Posts

June 05 2010 22:31 GMT

#175

Progamer Ma: "I've never suggested or coerced match fixing"

Continuing, Ma said regarding Progamer Kim under the AirForce, that "it is true that I suggested match fixing to him in the beginning, but I don't remember suggesting match fixing to him later on and getting refused."

lol what? i think someone is definitely guilty of something here.

danmooj1

United States1855 Posts

June 05 2010 22:52 GMT

#176

On June 05 2010 11:50 LittLeLives wrote:
Savior is just some dude who is exercising his legal rights. Good for him.
Interested to see where this goes.

Yeah, I mean to those who are giving him shit for this, he's just trying to get a shorter sentence/ less severe consequence. Wouldn't you try to get in the least amount of trouble as possible if you could?

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The Storyteller

Singapore2486 Posts

June 06 2010 02:05 GMT

#177

On June 05 2010 18:16 cursor wrote:
I read 4 translated articles on the intratubes... I KNOW You are guilty sAviOr!!!
It's JUST like a guy who's guilty to say that he's not. Gawd.

Coincidentally, it's also just like a guy who's NOT guilty to say that he's not. Hmm.

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

June 06 2010 05:27 GMT

#178

. Furthermore, during the process where courts check the address, occupation, etc of the accused, while Won answered "currently unemployed", Ma attracted attention by answering "Progamer".

I love this man. Forever and always.