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Progamer Ma: "I've never suggested match fixing" - Page 10

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machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
June 06 2010 09:29 GMT
#181
Dude has a vod of him killing his own units throughout the game in a zvz, lmao. I'd love to see him explain that game.
Lhefriel_Medies
Profile Joined May 2009
United States28 Posts
June 06 2010 10:29 GMT
#182
On June 06 2010 18:29 machinehead.. wrote:
Dude has a vod of him killing his own units throughout the game in a zvz, lmao. I'd love to see him explain that game.


There are a million and a half ways to throw a game in a matchup as volatile as ZvZ. Going 9pool and being slightly passive, or even than perfect, with your mutas will lose you the game without it looking remotely intentional, or, in the case of a mirror builds, mismicroing your scourge. Having your lings slightly out of position even, as the games EffOrt won against Stars last match show. If he's really killing his own units, he probably has some actual reason, because that would be the absolute stupidest way to throw a ZvZ.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
June 06 2010 10:49 GMT
#183
On June 06 2010 18:29 machinehead.. wrote:
Dude has a vod of him killing his own units throughout the game in a zvz, lmao. I'd love to see him explain that game.

Depending on the situation, that could be to clear up food to build other units if he didn't have enough OL's. Any match could always be a mistake. It doesn't have to be thrown.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
June 06 2010 12:07 GMT
#184
"I never knowingly took steriods"
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
June 06 2010 13:08 GMT
#185
On June 06 2010 21:07 thedeadhaji wrote:
"I never knowingly took steriods"


i just took things that arent steriods and turn into steriods once they enter my body.

Does anybody know when this trial and stuff is going on?
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 01:08:50
June 07 2010 01:06 GMT
#186
On June 06 2010 18:29 machinehead.. wrote:
Dude has a vod of him killing his own units throughout the game in a zvz, lmao. I'd love to see him explain that game.

savior sure is an idiot for throwing matches, but for goodness' sake he's not that stupid ...

hey, at least Savior is trying to prove to the public that Progamer is a legit occupation.

p/s: seeing how the word "progamer" is red-underlined in firefox (meaning it's not an actual word in English), i do hope this will change in near future ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
June 07 2010 04:16 GMT
#187
On June 06 2010 18:29 machinehead.. wrote:
Dude has a vod of him killing his own units throughout the game in a zvz, lmao. I'd love to see him explain that game.

Did you know killing your lings to free up supply for mutalisks is very common 2 years ago?
newvsoldschool
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
428 Posts
June 07 2010 08:11 GMT
#188
On June 07 2010 13:16 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2010 18:29 machinehead.. wrote:
Dude has a vod of him killing his own units throughout the game in a zvz, lmao. I'd love to see him explain that game.

Did you know killing your lings to free up supply for mutalisks is very common 2 years ago?


or you can have those lings on a suicide scouting mission, and maybe kill a drone or two.
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas, Brood War Progamer
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
June 07 2010 09:09 GMT
#189
i want to believe =(
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
June 07 2010 10:47 GMT
#190
On June 07 2010 17:11 newvsoldschool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2010 13:16 LunarDestiny wrote:
On June 06 2010 18:29 machinehead.. wrote:
Dude has a vod of him killing his own units throughout the game in a zvz, lmao. I'd love to see him explain that game.

Did you know killing your lings to free up supply for mutalisks is very common 2 years ago?


or you can have those lings on a suicide scouting mission, and maybe kill a drone or two.

to show them that you're saving larva by not building overlords?

players used to do this. it has nothing to do with throwing games.
hi man O_O
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6994 Posts
June 07 2010 14:33 GMT
#191
On June 06 2010 18:29 machinehead.. wrote:
Dude has a vod of him killing his own units throughout the game in a zvz, lmao. I'd love to see him explain that game.

It's absolutely standard to kill zerglings if you need additional mutalisks/other units and cant wait for the overlord to pop up. I'm sure you could find a vod of jaedong doing it as well but that doesn't mean he has ever thrown games.

Nobody is stupid enough to cheat blatantly like that, jesus.
pyr0ma5ta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States458 Posts
June 07 2010 16:27 GMT
#192
This trial is turning out to be a slow-motion disaster.

Savior
"I made you a zergling, but I eated it." - Defiler
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
June 07 2010 18:13 GMT
#193
He should have not said anything and stuck with the apology.
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-07 19:57:21
June 07 2010 19:56 GMT
#194
On June 05 2010 05:37 Shatter wrote:
Ma Jae Yoon fighting!...in court!


Heh.

I think an example needs to be made out of him and the rest of the gang- but him especially. He had so much, and had so many fans that he let down...

They should tie his right arm to a zergling, his left arm to a hydralisk, his right leg to a defiler, and his left leg to an ultralisk, and have them all run in opposite directions...

And then Reach should bang Savior's mom (though in some cultures, this is considered a great compliment).
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
June 07 2010 23:29 GMT
#195
On June 04 2010 14:49 opsayo wrote:
could he actually get jail time?


after watching that after talk thing that was posted on the main page, IIRC, the commentators said that there probably wouldnt be jail time for the progamers. just a fine and a ban from e-sports?
slimdagger
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States84 Posts
June 09 2010 07:22 GMT
#196
On June 04 2010 17:21 LunarDestiny wrote:
Man Savior, just admit your crime.

- (T)Hwasin admits his crime and apologizes in his cyworld.
- (Z)sAviOr forced to retire by KeSPA, CJ releases him.
- (Z)YellOw[ArnC] admits his crime and apologizes.
- (Z)Luxury retires. KT terminates his contract.
- (T)UpMaGiC admits his crime and apologizes.
- (T)go.go admits his crime and apologizes.
- (Z)type-b admits his crime and apologizes in his cyworld

Look at this list. Other progamers already admitted their crime. And isn't Savior the one suggesting match fixing to these players. It is very unlikely that Savior never took part in a fixed match himself.


One might say that ... Savoir has ... poor gg timing
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 07:30:31
June 09 2010 07:29 GMT
#197
According to the new tl news article, the head prosecutor of the match fixing case basically says that Savior had nothing to do with fixing matches other than hesitantly brokering some money, and rejected all offers to throw any matches. It looks like what Savior said was true. I think its unfortunate that he was banned from Kespa, since I think this redeems him for the most part.

If someone gave you money and told you to pass it to your teammate how many of you would instead report your teammate for match fixing as opposed to just giving them the money and having nothing further to do with it? Who knows Savior himself may have completely disagreed with match fixing but only did it because he would feel bad reporting his teammate.

Its unfortunate that he was the face of the whole scandal when he probably had the least to do with it out of everyone involved.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
June 09 2010 09:32 GMT
#198
Is this translation just bad? because it doesn't quite make sense. Also, lol at showing up with cast and shit for sympathy.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-09 17:24:50
June 09 2010 17:24 GMT
#199
On June 09 2010 18:32 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Is this translation just bad? because it doesn't quite make sense. Also, lol at showing up with cast and shit for sympathy.


lol now that we pretty much found out that everything savior said is true, i dont think the cast is for sympathy, might actually be real.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
June 09 2010 17:56 GMT
#200
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