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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
June 02 2010 04:26 GMT
#241
Awesome games.
+ Show Spoiler +
Tester is a beast, I wonder if better corrupter/hydra micro would've made a diff, Tester didn't have enough AA to kill corrupters before they killed the colossus, it looked like... but yeah.

ggz
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
June 02 2010 04:49 GMT
#242
I know u guys got a lot of unnecessary shit for the void being a day or two late -_- but I just wanted to say thanks for putting on this event. The players and casters were all top notch. Thank you for putting on this and many other great events and I look forward to more in the future.
Smu
Profile Joined July 2009
Serbia164 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 05:08:46
June 02 2010 05:06 GMT
#243
Quite good games.

+ Show Spoiler +
Pretty much all of it is Tester schooling foreigners though. I have to admit I expected more out of Idra. Especially on game 3 he showed his lack of ability to adapt. A handful of mutalisks would have done wonders versus a stretched out base like that. Too often does he wait for the opponent to build up so he can counter his army. He should take up on some initiative.
Take us into orbit Mr. Malmsteen. We've seen enough.
nickycakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States103 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 06:00:16
June 02 2010 05:59 GMT
#244
Not sure if this helps anyone, but I made a reddit thread with each of the games individually linked with some spoiler prevention built in. I don't like how youtube makes you go through 5 pages between youtube videos so you can get to the main expanded version of a single video. Anyway, enjoy:

linky

and thanks a bunch to the team for getting the vods up. some AWESOME games.
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
June 02 2010 06:37 GMT
#245
lol, Tester domination, awesome.

Laughs at those who thought he would get wrecked or was overrated, the gap between Asia and the world is still huge.
qd
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany37 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 07:16:25
June 02 2010 07:11 GMT
#246
did i miss something?

where are the games between tester v whitera and idra v tlo?

sorry guys, dont hang me...

just woke up

thx, great vods!
san-tokie
Profile Joined May 2007
Korea (South)185 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 07:30:47
June 02 2010 07:29 GMT
#247
Wow, I've never been so impressed by a SC2 player before. Truly, Tester is playing on another level than the current top foreigners.

Artosis, please invite more progamers to future invitationals!

p.s. everytime Chill laughed at Day9's jokes I also started laughing, what a cutie pie haha
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 08:40:46
June 02 2010 08:39 GMT
#248
On June 02 2010 15:37 Wedge wrote:
lol, Tester domination, awesome.

Laughs at those who thought he would get wrecked or was overrated, the gap between Asia and the world is still huge.


I don't know if this series has convinced me that Korea will remain far and away the most dominant force in SC2. It's hard to describe but basically when you watch Korean BW it's just mind blowing and you feel no one could ever reach that level, whereas I don't get that same feeling watching Tester.

I do suspect that it's for 2 reasons: the main one being I don't think Blizzard's map pool favors macro oriented play very much. The other is that to my knowledge Korea still hasn't 'converted' to SC2. I'm very interested to see what will happen when (if?) they do

P.S. I would love to see Tester vs Sen =D
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
June 02 2010 08:46 GMT
#249
What the heck is going on with the audio on TLO/Idra Game 1?
Ancient.TL
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania37 Posts
June 02 2010 09:11 GMT
#250
On June 01 2010 18:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that we'd do it immediately if there wasn't an unforeseen issue with with Day's upload. However, if we put a prediction of "next day or so" up and do not meet it, people will whine (see several posters above).

So we have decided to make a more accurate prediction of "within 1 week" which is fine whether we upload it today or at the end of the week. This will still lead to whining, but this type of whining is less frequent and less annoying.

Obviously, we will upload it as soon as possible.

I wouldn't say that people whine, I would say that they complain because of the failure of the results that they were expecting.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that people do not appreciate your work and time put into this because they complain.

Most people expected the vods to be up within one day and after several days of expecting the same thing and not having it they eventually started to complain about it.

But this is only due to the inaccuracy of their expectations as opposed to the actual facts.

So just proper information and notifications of the status that you guys are at will do wonders.

If it takes a day, say it will take a day, if one week, say one week, if you expect a day and some problems occur, just make a quick update on the status and tell people about it so that everybody knows what to expect as opposed to being dissapointed when they don't get the results they are expecting.

User was warned for this post
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 09:39:44
June 02 2010 09:25 GMT
#251
I just watched game 1 and had something weird happening. + Show Spoiler +
When the vod was over, Youtube jumped to game 1 of IdrA vs. Tester. This is obviously a bad spoiler, and that aside, it doesn't make any sense to watch the games in that order. Someone might want to look into that.
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
June 02 2010 11:43 GMT
#252
Great games, great tournament and thanks to Altitude. Loved how it all happened on one day instead of dragging it on over a month.

Ridiculously stacked group of death lol.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 12:58:26
June 02 2010 12:11 GMT
#253
On June 02 2010 18:11 Ancient.TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 18:47 Hot_Bid wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that we'd do it immediately if there wasn't an unforeseen issue with with Day's upload. However, if we put a prediction of "next day or so" up and do not meet it, people will whine (see several posters above).

So we have decided to make a more accurate prediction of "within 1 week" which is fine whether we upload it today or at the end of the week. This will still lead to whining, but this type of whining is less frequent and less annoying.

Obviously, we will upload it as soon as possible.

I wouldn't say that people whine, I would say that they complain because of the failure of the results that they were expecting.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that people do not appreciate your work and time put into this because they complain.

Most people expected the vods to be up within one day and after several days of expecting the same thing and not having it they eventually started to complain about it.

But this is only due to the inaccuracy of their expectations as opposed to the actual facts.

I believe "a day or so" can mean one or two days. It could even mean three days. That is why the estimate was "a day or so" and not "a day."

To prevent future misunderstandings, I present this handy chart:


American Measurements of Duration
  • A minute = 0.00069 days
  • An hour = 0.042 days
  • A day = 1 day
  • A day or so = 1-2 days (strict interpretation)
  • A day or so = 1-3 days (lenient interpretation)
  • A week = 7 days
  • A month = 28-31 days
  • A year = 365 or 366 days
  • A decade = 3,652 or 3,653 days
  • A century = 36,524 or 36,525 days
       Chart © 2010 TeamLiquid


The VODs would have been posted on Monday (2 days after event) but due to a uploading error, they were posted on Tuesday, (3 days after the event). So even assuming the strictest interpretation of "a day or so," viewers were only deprived of the VODs for at most 24 hours.

Additionally, I believe given the general track record for tournaments uploading VODs, what happened was completely within the bounds of acceptability, especially since we gave an update stating that there was an uploading issue. For example, Proleague VODs often take 2-3 days to be uploaded.

So just proper information and notifications of the status that you guys are at will do wonders.

If it takes a day, say it will take a day, if one week, say one week, if you expect a day and some problems occur, just make a quick update on the status and tell people about it so that everybody knows what to expect as opposed to being dissapointed when they don't get the results they are expecting.

This is what we did. In fact, posting VODs three days later is perfectly OK for "a day or so" and I believe users making posts like "are they ever going to be up?" and proclaiming our estimate to be a mistake are definitely whining.

In sum, we posted our VODs 3 days after the event, and we informed everyone about a technical delay.

I believe you are blowing this incident out of proportion and I do not understand why you must complain about such a sequence of events.

However, as much as I wish to simply dismiss you with a short "quit whining," I feel it is necessary to explain what happened and why our actions were not unreasonable. Now, let's focus on the more important things like the actual games themselves or the sponsor that made this possible.

Please stop talking about this.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
June 02 2010 12:55 GMT
#254

People will complain no matter what you do, just look at the HDH thread, people were whining about the broadcast being delayed and as soon as games were broadcast people were bitching about no vods being uploaded and even now that the vods have been posted people are still bitching about not having replays. The whining will never stop.
Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
Skvid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Lithuania751 Posts
June 02 2010 12:56 GMT
#255
Anyone else think that the fragster.de showmatch with mardow v socke were way more entertaining series?
I just finished watching those and... my god those were insanely fun to watch.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
June 02 2010 14:30 GMT
#256
Thanks for the vods, have seen about four of them so far, and they are excellent! First time I've seen Tester play!
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Ancient.TL
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania37 Posts
June 02 2010 15:43 GMT
#257
Did I really deserve a warning for a perfectly logical and civilized explanation ?

It was not a "whining", as you call it, nor an offensive point a view, I was simply explaining the reason why people complained.

It makes me cautious about trying to further state logical point of views.

You know, Starcraft is popular in South Korea, not North Korea.

User was warned for this post
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
June 02 2010 16:53 GMT
#258
Sweet series thanks for the VODs and thanks to the sponsor for providing these cool MUs!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
June 02 2010 17:17 GMT
#259
Nice VODs, just love Tester and his colossi in game 3 of the finals.
[TLMS] REBOOT
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
June 02 2010 18:09 GMT
#260
On June 02 2010 21:11 Hot_Bid wrote:

To prevent future misunderstandings, I present this handy chart:


American Measurements of Duration
  • A minute = 0.00069 days
  • An hour = 0.042 days
  • A day = 1 day
  • A day or so = 1-2 days (strict interpretation)
  • A day or so = 1-3 days (lenient interpretation)
  • A week = 7 days
  • A month = 28-31 days
  • A year = 365 or 366 days
  • A decade = 3,652 or 3,653 days
  • A century = 36,524 or 36,525 days
       <font size=1> Chart © 2010 TeamLiquid</font>




Thanks for this chart! It helped greatly in my understanding of time.

Sincerely,
A noob
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
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