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[IeSF] Once More, with Feeling

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[IeSF] Once More, with Feeling

Text byWaxangel
November 30th, 2009 11:50 GMT


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For a sport that’s not even ten years old, professional Starcraft is fueled by a large amount of nostalgia. Presented with truly great players and great games, our attention can be forced to the here and now. But more often than not, the present is a window through which we reminisce the past.

If a new player starts to play well and gets noticed, we’ll talk a little bit about what aspects of his play make him good. Then we’ll work our brains in a knot trying to decide which player he reminds us of.

If a player becomes a successful present day star, we’ll praise his abilities and declare our support. Then we’ll go on and say “Still, he isn’t as good as…..”

When I see three bunkers in a game, I don’t see a desperate early defense, a crushingly tight containment line, or a keep-away sign to mutalisks. Instead, I see the Starcraft’s premiere celebrity in 2004, declaring that he is a winner first and foremost, and that being an entertainer and innovator was just something he did on the side.

The reason these old memories are so alluring is as foggy as the memories themselves, but it suffices to know that they are strong and lasting. Or at least enough so that at long last, we have the first real old school tournament. For your consideration, an early holiday gift from MBCGame and the IeSF: IeSF Star Invitational Classic 8 - Return of the Legends.



From the name alone, you might have thought this summer’s so called E-Stars ‘Heritage’ league had a similar old school theme. But with players like Savior, Tossgirl and Anytime in the mix, it was clear that this was a just-for-kicks popularity contest meant to give Savior’s then depleted bank account a break.

Although I’m not sold on “Legend” status for all the players involved, and there are some notable missing players I would have loved to have seen, the exploits of the players in this tournament are so old and retold, they border on myth. Here is your lineup:

Protoss: (P)Reach, (P)IntoTheRain
Zerg: (Z)YellOw, HOT-Forever
Terran: (T)BoxeR, (T)iloveoov, (T)ChRh, (T)NaDa

Four of these players (HOT-Forever, ChRh, Boxer, IntoTheRain) are practically founding fathers, having made names for themselves on TV or through the internet before the summer of 2000 when Ongamenet came to be. The schedule is as follows (Formatting shamelessly stolen from overall great human being l10f):

◆IeSF Star Invitational Classic 8 - Return of the Legends Schedule

Ro8 Day 1 - December 1st 13:00 KST
(P)Reach <Luna the Final> (T)iloveoov
(Z)YellOw <Into the Darkness 2> (T)ChRh
Winner <Fighting Spirit> Winner
Loser <Fighting Spirit> Loser
Final <Match Point> Final

Day 2 - December 2nd 13:00 KST
(T)BoxeR <Fighting Spirit> (P)IntoTheRain
(Z)H.O.T-Forever <Match Point> (T)NaDa
Winner <Luna the Final> Winner
Loser <Luna the Final> Loser
Final <Into the Darkness 2> Final

Semifinals - December 3rd 13:00 KST
1st from group A vs 2nd from group B (Bo3)
2nd from group A vs 1st from group B (Bo3)

Map order:
Set 1 - Match Point
Set 2 - Fighting Spirit
Set 3 - Into the Darkness 2

Finals - Bo5 - December 12th
Set 1 - Neo Requiem
Set 2 - Match Point
Set 3 - Fighting Spirit
Set 4 - Into the Darkness 2
Set 5 - Luna the Final


Source: Daily E-Sports



Players


(T)BoxeR
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In the year 2000, Lim Yo Hwan figured out that while dropships were terribly slow and expensive (they were like un-upgraded shuttles before the 1.08 patch), they could be pretty damn good against Zerg players who only made scourge if they spammed the ‘S’ key too quickly. After being crushed one too many times, the hapless Zerg players started to leave lurkers and scourge at their bases. At this point, Lim Yo Hwan furthered discovered that paying close attention to your units and clicking quickly according to the situation is a pretty good idea. The supposedly prepared Zergs continued to lose to dropships anyway. At some point while this was happening, Boxer became bored and decided to master and popularize one-factory expansions in TvP as well. Further inspirations were to come, but none as lasting the first two. As far as Starcraft goes, he was and continues to be a leading pioneer in the “This seems effective in theory, I think I’ll actually pull it off because I’m just that f***ing awesome” school of thought.


(T)ChRh
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One of two Starcraft players who had the decision making ability, knowledge of the game, and overall awareness to play random at the top level (the other was Grrr…). While he later switched to Terran when perfection through repetition emerged as the dominant style of play, Chrh's career as a random player was something special. Grrr… was the more aggressive and whimsical half of a successful random player, full of good ideas and unpredictability, with the flexibility and execution to make things work in prickly situations (his picked-protoss on islands in an exception, being one of the earliest examples of ruthlessly efficient play. But that’s a story for another day). ChRh, compared to this, was the passive side of a great random player; he always knew what to do in any situation. He was rarely flustered, and could be counted on to make the correct decision given any situation. While he could perform high-impact plays when required -- such as an epic psi-storm burst against Zerg -- his best games were the least notable ones, where slowly lulled his opponents into a quiet loss.


(Z)H.O.T-Forever
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Back when Starcraft first started to be shown on TV and internet broadcasts, the broadcasters were unsure of what direction they were going in. The game was hugely popular in Korea in 1999 ~ 2000, so it was guaranteed some kind of base viewership. But after the basic idea of Starcraft on TV, they didn't seem to know what they were going to do.

When I started watching Starcraft at that time, I approached it as a tool to get better by seeing what kind of strategies and tactics good players used. HOT486 (His original ID. When your ID references a K-Pop band and an Intel CPU from the 1990’s, you know you are an old school badass) was one of the first players who started me and countless others along the path of watching Starcraft for pure entertainment, relishing the quality game.

For better or worse, he was the first of manifestation of a classic Starcraft archetype: The Villain Zerg. One of our most beloved stories typically goes something like this. The cunning Zerg players torments our Protoss hero with nasty lair tech harassment, and then contains him with lurkers while shrewdly sniping his observers, all the while expanding around the map. However the Hero perseveres and survives through this hardship, scratching together his final army as his resources begin to run out. In the final do or die push, the Hero’s forces appear to be outnumbered and outmatched…. But he prevails! -- the Zerg swarm fades away underneath the relentless cover of lightning.

HOT was our perfect villain. Although he knew when to play cynically and take the advantage without confrontation, he also relished taking his opponent head on in battle. The Terran death ball wasn’t something to be slowly worn away; you threw yourself at it full force and picked up the pieces later.

Unfortunately, his games didn’t come down to amazing final confrontation phase that often. HOT was a good player after all, and many of his games simply involved him repeatedly crushing the opponent’s feeble attempts at breaking containment until HOT had expanded to every corner of the map. When this happened though, I never blamed HOT for being a cheap, boring Zerg player. Instead, I would blame his opponent for not doing better. I knew that if you went up again HOT wanting a fight, he would be more than eager to throw down.


(P)IntoTheRain
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Any long time fan of Starcraft should know what ‘Han Bang’ means by now. Han Bang is your wind-up haymaker, your one-hit KO, your all in shove. We are used to the word now, but people didn’t always refer to the well-timed rush of pwning as the “Han Bang rush” from the start. First, there had to be a player who demonstrated the concept of a single, all-or-nothing attack with such fury that people began think “Damn, we need a name for that s***.” Although no present Starcraft maneuver is named after a player (“bisu build” jokes will be banned), I wouldn’t mind it if people started saying things like “Whoa, that guy’s Rainin’ it up.”

IntoTheRain’s Hanbang came during the two-gate opener age of Protoss vs Zerg, where Protoss would attempt to do as much damage with a zealot rush as possible, then put together a pitiful zealot/templar/observer force off one base. Zerg would be an overall jerk, containing Protoss’s front with lurkers and scourge while doing lame only-on-Lost-Temple cliff lurker tricks (hmmm, Zerg players are still jerks now). While it was the typical pattern for every Protoss player, IntoTheRain made a point of making his containment breaking attack as epic as possible. On good days, he would utterly smash Zerg’s containment force and then go onto Zerg’s main to finish the game with a single attack. If it went poorly, he might push far enough to take his third expansiom, only to lose to a swarm of ultralisks and cracklings after 10 minutes of fighting cliff lurkers.

Unfortunately for IntoTheRain, he qualified for the OnGameNet Starleague after he was past his prime. For many people, his Han Bang was something they knew about from hearsay only, not personal experience. But for those like me, who have seen and remember IntoTheRain at his best, he left us an important life lesson: Faced with an all-or-nothing decision, take your chances. At worst you lose. At best you’re a f***ing badass.

(Was IntoTheRain vs HOT486 eagerly anticipated back in 2001? You betcha. In the end, however, it was a lame game. Me, I blamed IntoTheRain for not bringing enough fight to a FIGHT.)


(T)iloveoov
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There’s barely a one year gap in careers between iloveoov and his peers in this tournament, but he comes from a totally different environment than the others. For the elder seven, there was no existing establishment to help their careers along. Though E-sports was hardly as organized as it was today, iloveoov is the first real success story of the modern progamer. After starting as a practice partner, he was brought in as a junior member of a team so that he might slowly develop his skills. iloveoov practiced hard and improved his game, made a huge splash in the pro league/team league, and then went on to win in individual competitions. To be honest, I think he’d be more appropriate in a tournament with players like JulyZerg, Savior, and Nal_ra, but what’s a party without at least one gate-crasher? Might as well take the cockiest, most BM bad motherf****** of them all in that case.


(T)NaDa
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Did I ever tell you that Nada is the greatest player ever? Oh you already knew? Good thing, because if you disagreed, I’d have to tell you that you’re stupid. Here, go look at TLPD. Anyway, now we’re all familiar with Nada’s countless tournament wins and the way he crushed the best players in his time over the period of several years. So, how about a story about young Nada, before he was known as the second Bonjwa?

Unfortunately, I can’t think of anything quirky and amusing about his early career to share. As far as I can recall, Nada was introduced to us as a killing machine, and continued to be one ever after. In fact, the only surprise an E-sports fan may have felt upon observing Nada’s early career would be that he managed to keep consistently killing people for so damn long. If I had been told in 2002 that Nada would be the greatest player of all time, I would have shrugged and said “Sure, why not?” Although, I will say that he was cuter seven years ago.


(P)Reach
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The March 3rd Revolution was a source of great joy at first, but in the following years it would cause me sorrow as well. In the old days, there was a universal truth. Zerg was evil, Protoss was good. Zerg had the maps, the cheap units, the unbalanced everything on his side. Protoss had to fight tooth and nail for every victory, and even their best was not good enough most of the time. Simply put, Protoss vs Zerg was HARD.

Then Bisu came and taught us if we opened our minds (and clicked really fast), anything is possible. He gave Protoss a great gift, and yet took away something vital as well.

For seven years, soul of Protoss was defined by their struggle. The dream of defeating Zerg in a final may have been an impossible one. Nothing came easy for the hero, he had to earn his happy ending. He had to have a burst of inspiration so he could for once, overcome the foes who had cast him aside so easily in the past. The glory was not in the victory itself, but in how hard earned the victory had been.

Thanks for the revolution, now give us back our old heroes.


(Z)YellOw
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Hong Jin Ho is the most complicated man in E-Sports.

People seem to actually forget this, but he was an excellent and talented player for a very long time. In terms of consistency, he was superior to everyone else in his generation with the exception of Nada (who was the greatest player of all time, so tough beans there).

Somehow all that’s taken a back seat to the way Yellow has become a truly bizarre cult figure. Hong’s legacy as a second-place finisher has been thrown back at him in so many ways, from gentle teasing to outright mockery, and also as pity and true support. Now Yellow’s legacy has ascended into something else completely, detaching itself from the actual player and becoming a symbol of E-sports itself.

If someone says “Kong gga ji ma” (one of the mantras related to Yellow and his silver curse), he’s not actually saying anything about Yellow. He’s just saying, “I like E-sports and I know who Yellow is!” Along those lines, Fomos even started calling the points they awarded for their winner prediction games ‘Kong,’ and it implied absolutely nothing about their opinion of Yellow. So say what you will about which of these eight players was actually the best, Yellow is the true symbol of E-sports.


IeSF kicks off tomorrow at 13:00 KST with Group A on MBCGame (check the Live Report thread for streams - MBC is notoriously bad when it comes to this stuff). Group B is being played on Wednesday and the semifinals on Thursday. This is going to be over fast, so make sure you catch it while its still on!
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Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 13:11:05
November 30 2009 12:37 GMT
#2
Don't know why but this almost makes me cry.

When I started watch progaming vods, Reach was the best rookie of the year, Nada was a wunderkind from nowhere, IntoTheRain had the most sexy ID and HT controls in the world, ChRh was so hot (along with TheMarine), the real K-pop was H.O.T and I was a fangirl who put Boxer's photo in my purse.

I'd love to see ChRh. Haven't seen him for a while since he‘s discharged from the army. (Oh I have an unfinished ChRh/Bisu fanfic....) Some may have no idea how handsome he looked when playing an individual league (3/4) finals in white suits.
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l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
November 30 2009 12:42 GMT
#3
It's a shame I can't watch this live
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CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
November 30 2009 12:46 GMT
#4
GOOOOOOO

Very well written, especially the bit about Reach.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
November 30 2009 12:49 GMT
#5
YES
OMG you nasty gurl
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 30 2009 12:52 GMT
#6
Wow epic!
Thanks for teaching us newschool players why the old schools are SO AWESOME!
In the woods, there lurks..
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
November 30 2009 12:52 GMT
#7
Yeah, Reach part is the best.

Would be an excellent movie of good and evil!
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
November 30 2009 12:54 GMT
#8
Sounds like someone has a Yellow bias :p
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
November 30 2009 12:56 GMT
#9
This is seriously going to be great.
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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
November 30 2009 13:00 GMT
#10
Epic write-up, I can't wait for these matches...
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
November 30 2009 13:04 GMT
#11
you got me all hot and bothered
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ssystem
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom337 Posts
November 30 2009 13:05 GMT
#12
Awesome stuff

I'm gonna start saying “Whoa, that guy’s Rainin’ it up.”
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
November 30 2009 13:05 GMT
#13
I have a bad feeling that including oov and Nada is going to end up making a bunch of old stars look bad. But I could be wrong.
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
November 30 2009 13:05 GMT
#14
For those of us that started following the scene late, this is the most badass, motherfucking awesomest chance to look into the past and how it all began.
If you don't stay up for this - you are not a starcraft fan.
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
November 30 2009 13:11 GMT
#15
YES!

And LOL at the Kong references

Never get old! <3
Blue
Profile Joined July 2004
Norway359 Posts
November 30 2009 13:14 GMT
#16
On November 30 2009 21:52 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Yeah, Reach part is the best.

Would be an excellent movie of good and evil!


didnt really say much bout reach in particular

but loved the rest of it

intotherain was my first hero -_-
I must return to the time when I played with my own style, and when I determined the victory through strategies. And the strategies are a product of practicing more than anyone else. The key to success is to persevere through practice. Lim Yo-hwan
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
November 30 2009 13:16 GMT
#17
Nice write up. I can't wait to see these games.
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
November 30 2009 13:18 GMT
#18
great preview. thanks wax
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
November 30 2009 13:21 GMT
#19
I wanted to see Nal_ra
Nice article, thanks.
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Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
November 30 2009 13:25 GMT
#20
Wait, who is the left guy on the banner? I'm pretty sure he's not H.O.T486 but really looks like an H.O.T group memeber. >_<
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Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
November 30 2009 13:39 GMT
#21
WOW! Nice writeup and introduction to some of the really old players! I enjoyed the Heritage tournament since it was an opportunity to see the older generation progamers battle it out. I'm sure i'll enjoy this tournament as well!

KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
November 30 2009 13:44 GMT
#22
god those guys look so young
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
November 30 2009 13:55 GMT
#23
Waxangel owns
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Vernom
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Spain374 Posts
November 30 2009 14:04 GMT
#24
On November 30 2009 22:25 Emlary wrote:
Wait, who is the left guy on the banner? I'm pretty sure he's not H.O.T486 but really looks like an H.O.T group memeber. >_<

He is H.O.T486, he had that hair
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1558 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 14:21:34
November 30 2009 14:18 GMT
#25
yes it's hot486 but definitely in his very early day.

Actually I'm a bit surprise about his description, H.O.T wasn't boring at all, he had a terrific gameplay vs protoss and terran, extremely creative. I remember trying to copy his style, but that was impossible, it was far too funky and RISKY, and i will often end up being totally raped.
Also very smart, he was the kind of "thinking of everything" making trap with lurker, scourge since his entire strategy was based on tempo. He has almost 60% win in his career and was a plague for all living protoss.

I believe sAviOr is truly his successor in this particular style.
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Chile1438 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 14:19:28
November 30 2009 14:18 GMT
#26
nice article.

And epic tournament...

the legends deserve RESPECT !!
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
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Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
November 30 2009 14:33 GMT
#27
legendary tourny
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Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 14:41:31
November 30 2009 14:38 GMT
#28
H.O.T-Forever's picture is quite amazing, so is the article. Looking much forward to the tournament! Thanks!

Edit: Oh btw, boxer is gonna rip this apart, ez.
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 30 2009 15:03 GMT
#29
Oh wow, nice write-up!

Newer SC fans probably have a hard time grasping how dominant, slumping/resigned players like Nada and Oov were back then. They toyed around pretty much anyone, which of course can be seen in Nada's achievements. Nada kept up his dominance for a long period of time though, and Oov faded away pretty fast in comparison
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Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
November 30 2009 15:05 GMT
#30
[B]
Edit: Oh btw, boxer is gonna rip this apart, ez.


lol

Chances are Nada will own this. Yellow looked good against Boxer in SPL as well
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prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
November 30 2009 15:06 GMT
#31
On November 30 2009 21:54 Whiplash wrote:
Sounds like someone has a Yellow bias :p


There's no such thing as Yellow bias. There's only aknowledgement of how awesome he is.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
November 30 2009 15:16 GMT
#32
As expected, only Waxangel can deliver something like this.
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
November 30 2009 15:21 GMT
#33
I sincerely hope everyone on TL gets a chance to read this. Thank you Wax, there really was no one else who could have done this justice.
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PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
November 30 2009 15:24 GMT
#34
I wanted realy bad to see GARIMTO..
Still, Reach will probably win this !
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HmZ.
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany59 Posts
November 30 2009 15:27 GMT
#35
IntoTheRain ~ I wanted to see Zeus or SKELETON 2 ~ but you cannot let all those play^^
I hope final will be Rain vs ChRh !!!
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Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden282 Posts
November 30 2009 15:29 GMT
#36
Fantastic, it makes me so happy to be alive :D
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Profile Joined February 2009
Germany19 Posts
November 30 2009 15:49 GMT
#37
ChRh, IntoTheRain, YellOw... wow, simply amazing!
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ggt
Profile Joined December 2003
France58 Posts
November 30 2009 16:01 GMT
#38
if i remember correctly, HOT was also known to be elky's bitch.

Elky crushed him 3-0 for his first televised game in Korea even winning toss in the last game.
Then Elky crushed several times with ease :p
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
November 30 2009 16:05 GMT
#39
Hong Jin Ho fighting...
TranslatorBaa!
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
November 30 2009 16:12 GMT
#40
Holy crap,amazing article wow I really cant wait to see this,its definitely the best thing in sc for me after many many years!! super hyped
Radiomouse
Profile Joined November 2009
Netherlands209 Posts
November 30 2009 16:14 GMT
#41
very much enjoyed reading this : )

Thanks a lot for the write-up.
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
November 30 2009 16:18 GMT
#42
Boxer, Oov, Nada!

My heroes :D
iNkA
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States206 Posts
November 30 2009 16:19 GMT
#43
intotherain look like he wearing a straight jacket
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 30 2009 16:38 GMT
#44
The absence of JulyZerg in this kind of events really hurts me a little inside , but i guess he isn't washed up yet like this cool dudes in it .
horang3
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
November 30 2009 16:45 GMT
#45
lol Reach actually looks a bit chubby in his old picture.
Do great work
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 30 2009 17:00 GMT
#46
I AM EXCITE
Peace~
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
November 30 2009 17:11 GMT
#47
Oh man, I've been waiting for this.
Though I'm kind of sad that neither Savior nor Nal ra are in this T.T
@DreamingBird
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
November 30 2009 17:12 GMT
#48
Don't discount the possibility of Oov winning this.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
November 30 2009 17:22 GMT
#49
hypehypehype

i am hype.

great preview!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
November 30 2009 17:23 GMT
#50
Oh my god, ChRh! Will have to get up at 5 am to see this. :/
1000 at least.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
November 30 2009 17:40 GMT
#51
I'm pretty surprised at the race balance in this tourny.
I hope iloveoov doesn't drop out due to health complications again That was such a disappointment in the heritage league.
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 17:48:23
November 30 2009 17:48 GMT
#52
I think I pooped my pants a little in anticipation.

EDIT: Okay, it's wasn't just a little, it was a lot.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
November 30 2009 17:55 GMT
#53
Where is my beloved July ?
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
November 30 2009 18:09 GMT
#54
Great write up! Definitely love the feeling of nostalgia that is transmitted within this post!
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 18:22:49
November 30 2009 18:10 GMT
#55
Wow. One of my favorite articles on this site.

But I thought 486 referenced I love you and not a processor :x?

ChRh - first handsome progamer
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
November 30 2009 18:55 GMT
#56
very nice writeup, the graphics look neat!

now i know a lot more about these guys, thanks!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
November 30 2009 20:06 GMT
#57
YELLOW GETS TEH GOLD PLZ
i type teamliquid into the url subconsciously... all...the...time...
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-30 20:08:14
November 30 2009 20:07 GMT
#58
Very entertaining read, though there were a few things I didn't like.
I liked the part about your protoss heroes and zerg villains but then when you started calling Zerg "jerks" it seemed too childish.

The other part was this:
Did I ever tell you that Nada is the greatest player ever? Oh you already knew?

I really liked that start but then
Good thing, because if you disagreed, I’d have to tell you that you’re stupid.

:/ a bit anticlimactic and childish again.

But enough bitching I still enjoyed the read very very much. And it was nice to read about players whose names I had heard often (ChRh, H.O.T.Forever and IntoTheRain) without ever knowing anything about them.

Oh and gj keit, really cool pics
beep boop
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 30 2009 20:12 GMT
#59
nada gonna crush this
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
November 30 2009 20:15 GMT
#60
Nice artcile and those old player pictures are so great.
This actually made me little bit sad that I didn't continue on playing starcraft back when I was kid :/
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
November 30 2009 20:43 GMT
#61
HOT, Sechskies, FIN.K.L, g.o.d, S.E.S, Seo Taiji and Boys. The 'days'.
Commentator
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4200 Posts
November 30 2009 20:56 GMT
#62
omg i hope this isn't the 'last tournament' nada was talking about!!

it's too soooooooooooon
( ・´ー・`)
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
November 30 2009 21:22 GMT
#63
nada

<3
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
November 30 2009 21:43 GMT
#64
Yes! I love these!
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Sanku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada90 Posts
November 30 2009 22:35 GMT
#65
Nada had better win this.
# 1/0 NaDa fan. You can't get better than that./ I spell challenge with a "r"
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 30 2009 22:35 GMT
#66
oh dear god. this is pure nostalgia
O__O intotherain REALLY? good god
cw)minsean(ru
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2009 23:09 GMT
#67
Great read.

Good job Wax!
RIP Aaliyah
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
November 30 2009 23:16 GMT
#68
Such an epic sounding tournament and yet it comes and goes so quickly. We have to enjoy these rare opportunities.
cncbmb
Profile Joined August 2009
238 Posts
November 30 2009 23:22 GMT
#69
Nada might not actually be in the best shape because he just went through surgery. But I kinda hope he wins after reading the post [Nada] End Days.

Boxer and oov showed us they can hold their own against KAF players in the heritage league and proleague respectively, so I think we'll get a TvT final but I think TvP is more fun to watch.

GO REACH
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 30 2009 23:43 GMT
#70
I wonder if Chrh and H.O.T will do well

i have a feeling they are going to get rolled bad
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
December 01 2009 01:50 GMT
#71
Go ChRh!
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red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
December 01 2009 05:43 GMT
#72
On December 01 2009 10:50 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Go ChRh!


Yeah.. Doesnt look good for him though.

Always been one of my favorite players.
Broom
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
December 01 2009 05:49 GMT
#73
This is Yellow's chance to take another silver!

Go, KONG!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
December 01 2009 05:58 GMT
#74
Very nice article Wax!
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
December 01 2009 06:19 GMT
#75
This article and tournament just makes me wanna sit in front of a monitor and watch old school games for like 3 days straight.

Basically, they are both awesome.
ThePsiTooz
Profile Joined November 2009
New Zealand27 Posts
December 01 2009 06:55 GMT
#76
I cant wait till it starts
Once you go grack, you never go back.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 07:01:49
December 01 2009 06:58 GMT
#77
No mention of the ChRh-Boxer rivalry, or ChRh being called the Boxer killer for his series wins over Boxer in some of their early meetings?

No mention of IntoTheRain's status as storm king for his excellent use of spell casters?

No mention of NaDa's debut as an amatuer OBLITERATING a then S-class ChRh in a televised showmatch in 2001?

+ Show Spoiler +
I know I must sound harsh, but I felt like certain segments of that write-up were just kind of winged from memory in a hurry. Normally, I'd be a bit more "meh" about it, but I think that at least half the people on this site hadn't yet found Starcraft when IntoTheRain won Game-Q.

Basically, I feel like this write-up deserves more than the usual level of focus and was thus a bit lacking.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
December 01 2009 07:21 GMT
#78
On December 01 2009 15:58 Mortality wrote:
No mention of the ChRh-Boxer rivalry, or ChRh being called the Boxer killer for his series wins over Boxer in some of their early meetings?

No mention of IntoTheRain's status as storm king for his excellent use of spell casters?

No mention of NaDa's debut as an amatuer OBLITERATING a then S-class ChRh in a televised showmatch in 2001?

+ Show Spoiler +
I know I must sound harsh, but I felt like certain segments of that write-up were just kind of winged from memory in a hurry. Normally, I'd be a bit more "meh" about it, but I think that at least half the people on this site hadn't yet found Starcraft when IntoTheRain won Game-Q.

Basically, I feel like this write-up deserves more than the usual level of focus and was thus a bit lacking.


Good points but I think wax was taking a much different direction.

To me it was really more of a ' You've heard about these people dozens upon dozens of times by veteran members and yeah we had heritage league but here's the real deal '

I don't think it was meant to be a historical account or a blast to the past article. I mean in the section about Reach he hardly even mentions individual achievements.
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 10:05:09
December 01 2009 10:01 GMT
#79
I hope it's Boxer vs Nada at the end.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-01 10:15:34
December 01 2009 10:15 GMT
#80
btw that picture in the banner is definitely of jang woohyuk from HOT, not HOT-forever
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Profile Joined September 2009
France1558 Posts
December 01 2009 10:28 GMT
#81
On December 01 2009 05:43 GTR wrote:
HOT, Sechskies, FIN.K.L, g.o.d, S.E.S, Seo Taiji and Boys. The 'days'.


Ho i had babjjo[fin.k.l] in my clan during wgtour period he was damn better than any European^^
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
December 01 2009 10:38 GMT
#82
On December 01 2009 19:15 LosingID8 wrote:
btw that picture in the banner is definitely of jang woohyuk from HOT, not HOT-forever
[image loading]


we were on a deadline and somehow I couldn't get the gpx team my pic of HOT from the hanaro tournament
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ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
December 01 2009 12:46 GMT
#83
Great article but maybe you should write more about Reach

Thanks!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
December 02 2009 04:38 GMT
#84
plexxxaaaaa

the front page box makes it look like I'm talking about myself in third person and calling myself legendary
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