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Zhyan
Profile Joined April 2004
United States23 Posts
November 17 2009 01:18 GMT
#201
On November 17 2009 08:08 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 06:50 OppositeSavior wrote:
So anyone can play in TSL just make an account with TSL tag and start playing the 21st?

Yes, provided you do not have a Chinese or Korean IP.



So isn't ret and Idra allow to play? I suspect they have a Korean IP.

And how do you judge whether a player is playing with a Chinese or Korean IP when he is playing the ladder?
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
November 17 2009 01:54 GMT
#202
i love day9 commentating. his commentating chill vs combat -ex was probably the best commentating ive ever heard. the only other ppl who come close is when ex-pro gamers like themarine or nal_ra commentate just because they provide so much insight, and not to mention, more than accurate predictions compared to regular commentators.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-17 03:00:37
November 17 2009 03:00 GMT
#203
On November 17 2009 10:18 Zhyan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 08:08 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 17 2009 06:50 OppositeSavior wrote:
So anyone can play in TSL just make an account with TSL tag and start playing the 21st?

Yes, provided you do not have a Chinese or Korean IP.



So isn't ret and Idra allow to play? I suspect they have a Korean IP.


Korean and Chinese IP addresses are prohibited (unless granted exemption by TSL Administration)
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 17 2009 03:51 GMT
#204
Are all the TL staff TSL administration? I am guessing so?
When I think of something else, something will go here
Gnarly
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States151 Posts
November 17 2009 13:43 GMT
#205
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 17 2009 15:16 GMT
#206
I don't see anything about this yet, but what if say there is player who plays exactly one MU like me (or is far superior in one MU compared to their other matchups). Therefore, in ladder I play exactly that one MU and magically qualify. Yet, I'm really not that good, because if I had to play any other matchup, I wouldn't do so well.

Practically speaking, I suppose something like this would be relevant only if someone qualified purely by playing their strongest matchup who wouldn't have qualified otherwise.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 17 2009 15:17 GMT
#207
On November 17 2009 22:43 Gnarly wrote:
Does it matter how we tag with TSL? Like [TSL]Gnarly or TSL-Gnarly? or TsL?


Any form of tagging is acceptable, so long as it is clear.

Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-17 15:56:21
November 17 2009 15:53 GMT
#208
On November 17 2009 10:18 Zhyan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 08:08 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 17 2009 06:50 OppositeSavior wrote:
So anyone can play in TSL just make an account with TSL tag and start playing the 21st?

Yes, provided you do not have a Chinese or Korean IP.


So isn't ret and Idra allow to play? I suspect they have a Korean IP.

And how do you judge whether a player is playing with a Chinese or Korean IP when he is playing the ladder?

We will know because his IP address will be Korean or Chinese.

On November 17 2009 12:51 blade55555 wrote:
Are all the TL staff TSL administration? I am guessing so?

All TL staff are a part of the TSL administration, but not all are actively doing it. The official admins are Kennigit, Liquid`Nazgul, Hot_Bid, and Plexa -- so if you are looking for an exemption or rule clarification, make sure it comes from one of us.

On November 17 2009 22:43 Gnarly wrote:
Does it matter how we tag with TSL? Like [TSL]Gnarly or TSL-Gnarly? or TsL?

As long as it is clear. Last time everyone used TSL- but its not a big deal to use [TSL]
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
November 17 2009 16:19 GMT
#209
On November 15 2009 23:58 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2009 18:10 samachking wrote:
On November 15 2009 18:08 Nick_54 wrote:
Doesn't seem like theres that much of an incentive to be ladder number 1, you have to play Nony instead of a random qualifier. It would be cool if the loser of Ladder 1 or Nony could drop into qualifier number round 3 if they lost. Still seems really cool though, and I'm definitely looking forward to this.


If you are ladder no1 you have really darn good chances of beating Nony, so its not bad at all, Idra/Ret/Ra are clear favorites over Nony any day and they can easily hit ladder no1.

lol

skill doesnt fade

im gonna smash ladder #1


Haha! Nony Hwaiting!!!!
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
November 17 2009 16:30 GMT
#210
On November 16 2009 04:57 Clownbaby wrote:
Does anyone know how to get the anti-hack for a mac? It would suck if i couldn't play cuz of my damn OS.


You can play SC on 15 year old systems. Go find an old PC. You can't use the AH on a Mac.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
AssiRoyal
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany216 Posts
November 17 2009 16:35 GMT
#211
where is cholera???
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
November 17 2009 17:54 GMT
#212
I searched for a while for that old vod of tasteless and Day doing a commentary together but I couldn't find it anywhere. Does anyone know where it is???
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
November 17 2009 21:29 GMT
#213
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 17 2009 21:57 GMT
#214
On November 18 2009 06:29 stormtemplar wrote:
Hey I have a bit of a problem. I had to register as TSLStormtempla Because TSLStormtemplar wouldn't fit. Is there gonna be any issue with this?

It won't be a problem, that's close enough.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
November 18 2009 01:31 GMT
#215
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
November 18 2009 01:35 GMT
#216
We are making a "spirit of the rule" evaluation. If you made an honest attempt to not smurf, an attempt that a reasonable person would make, then it will be fine even if its one or two letters off. Ask yourself "if someone knows me as "randomKo_Orean" and I make a TSL account "TSL-Rando_OmKR" will they know that's me? I think the answer is yes, so that ID is fine.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Zhyan
Profile Joined April 2004
United States23 Posts
November 18 2009 01:56 GMT
#217
On November 18 2009 00:53 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 10:18 Zhyan wrote:
On November 17 2009 08:08 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 17 2009 06:50 OppositeSavior wrote:
So anyone can play in TSL just make an account with TSL tag and start playing the 21st?

Yes, provided you do not have a Chinese or Korean IP.


So isn't ret and Idra allow to play? I suspect they have a Korean IP.

And how do you judge whether a player is playing with a Chinese or Korean IP when he is playing the ladder?

We will know because his IP address will be Korean or Chinese.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 12:51 blade55555 wrote:
Are all the TL staff TSL administration? I am guessing so?

All TL staff are a part of the TSL administration, but not all are actively doing it. The official admins are Kennigit, Liquid`Nazgul, Hot_Bid, and Plexa -- so if you are looking for an exemption or rule clarification, make sure it comes from one of us.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 22:43 Gnarly wrote:
Does it matter how we tag with TSL? Like [TSL]Gnarly or TSL-Gnarly? or TsL?

As long as it is clear. Last time everyone used TSL- but its not a big deal to use [TSL]


Well, I know it sounds stupid, but can you please explain explicitly about this IP issue? For example, If i am playing with an USA IP for most of the games, and then play with a Chinese/Korean IP for one or several games, would you know that? And would you punish that?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-18 02:41:53
November 18 2009 02:37 GMT
#218
On November 18 2009 10:56 Zhyan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2009 00:53 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 17 2009 10:18 Zhyan wrote:
On November 17 2009 08:08 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 17 2009 06:50 OppositeSavior wrote:
So anyone can play in TSL just make an account with TSL tag and start playing the 21st?

Yes, provided you do not have a Chinese or Korean IP.


So isn't ret and Idra allow to play? I suspect they have a Korean IP.

And how do you judge whether a player is playing with a Chinese or Korean IP when he is playing the ladder?

We will know because his IP address will be Korean or Chinese.

Well, I know it sounds stupid, but can you please explain explicitly about this IP issue? For example, If i am playing with an USA IP for most of the games, and then play with a Chinese/Korean IP for one or several games, would you know that? And would you punish that?

All ladder games must be played from non-Korean, non-Chinese IPs. In your hypothetical, are you saying you plan to play most of the games from the United States then fly to China and play one game? I suspect this issue affects very few people.

As for our ability to detect IPs, I'm obviously not going to tell you explicitly how we track it or how evade it (if evading us is even possible). For 99.99% of cases, we will know if you play even one or two games from inside Korea or China, and any account that does this (without us giving the player an exception) will be disqualified.

This DQ will very likely happen at the end of the ladder, so there won't be time to play another account to qualify (if that is the goal). If multiple accounts are used in this way, we will know by cross-checking IPs. Also, all accounts with games played sharing IPs (for instance, if your A+ friend logs in and plays games for you) can and will be found out by us too. Add to this the rule that you must give all ladder replays to us (for hotkey matching), and its going to be very, very difficult to abuse.

Basically, don't try to abuse or game the system, because we will find out and you will be punished -- harshly. This is very likely not the last TSL, and abuse in one will likely result in a lifetime ban from all future TL events.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Chronopolis
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1484 Posts
November 18 2009 05:15 GMT
#219
Damn, this is going to be awesome. Good map choice btw.
Zhyan
Profile Joined April 2004
United States23 Posts
November 18 2009 06:13 GMT
#220
On November 18 2009 11:37 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2009 10:56 Zhyan wrote:
On November 18 2009 00:53 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 17 2009 10:18 Zhyan wrote:
On November 17 2009 08:08 Hot_Bid wrote:
On November 17 2009 06:50 OppositeSavior wrote:
So anyone can play in TSL just make an account with TSL tag and start playing the 21st?

Yes, provided you do not have a Chinese or Korean IP.


So isn't ret and Idra allow to play? I suspect they have a Korean IP.

And how do you judge whether a player is playing with a Chinese or Korean IP when he is playing the ladder?

We will know because his IP address will be Korean or Chinese.

Well, I know it sounds stupid, but can you please explain explicitly about this IP issue? For example, If i am playing with an USA IP for most of the games, and then play with a Chinese/Korean IP for one or several games, would you know that? And would you punish that?

All ladder games must be played from non-Korean, non-Chinese IPs. In your hypothetical, are you saying you plan to play most of the games from the United States then fly to China and play one game? I suspect this issue affects very few people.

As for our ability to detect IPs, I'm obviously not going to tell you explicitly how we track it or how evade it (if evading us is even possible). For 99.99% of cases, we will know if you play even one or two games from inside Korea or China, and any account that does this (without us giving the player an exception) will be disqualified.

This DQ will very likely happen at the end of the ladder, so there won't be time to play another account to qualify (if that is the goal). If multiple accounts are used in this way, we will know by cross-checking IPs. Also, all accounts with games played sharing IPs (for instance, if your A+ friend logs in and plays games for you) can and will be found out by us too. Add to this the rule that you must give all ladder replays to us (for hotkey matching), and its going to be very, very difficult to abuse.

Basically, don't try to abuse or game the system, because we will find out and you will be punished -- harshly. This is very likely not the last TSL, and abuse in one will likely result in a lifetime ban from all future TL events.

Thanks for replaying so explicitly. Too bad that is the case for me . Of course I'm not thinking about abusing. Anyway thanks for explaining.
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