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GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
October 19 2009 20:44 GMT
#121
That was a pretty terrible "article". If you want to rant please put it in blogs. I didn't even realize what you were talking about until the end.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
October 19 2009 20:49 GMT
#122
On October 20 2009 05:44 GunSlinger wrote:
That was a pretty terrible "article". If you want to rant please put it in blogs. I didn't even realize what you were talking about until the end.

I didn't really enjoy reading it either.

+ Show Spoiler +
NOT TO MENTION THE AUTHOR IS A CJ-LOVING SCUMBAG :D
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12815 Posts
October 19 2009 20:59 GMT
#123
hehehe backho gonna smash CJ!! then do fbh dance
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
October 19 2009 21:08 GMT
#124
On October 20 2009 05:44 GunSlinger wrote:
I didn't even realize what you were talking about until the end.

Pretty sure you didn't ever realize what he was talking about, then.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 19 2009 21:08 GMT
#125
CJ fanboy reporting in.




wait can I be an everything fanboy? I just love BW in general. lol.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
October 19 2009 21:10 GMT
#126
I disagree with many aspects of this article.
1. Whether or not fanboys will be discouraged from cheering for other winning players or old timers, why do we care?

2. ACE is technically not washed up

Seems like you dont respect too much from the past, rather you like to move on. Sure you talk about sticking to MJY to the end, but really now, does that give you the ability to smash some of the other old timers who don't got it anymore?
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
October 19 2009 21:12 GMT
#127
hyuk fan since 2008 ^^
(cause his games were amusing)

but im all for cj winning the proleague
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
ThanatosSyndrome
Profile Joined October 2009
United States5 Posts
October 19 2009 21:16 GMT
#128
I'm quite glad this article was written. It's the elitism in the community that we need to keep from expanding if we expect the community to grow and flourish.

10/10 by far.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
October 19 2009 21:18 GMT
#129
On October 20 2009 00:30 TwoToneTerran wrote:
I think you mean KT.

I think he did mean KT
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
October 19 2009 21:22 GMT
#130
We all look at the world through our own set of lenses.

I like the diversity of opinions amongst staff. You articulated your views and provided a great arguments for it.

It's not like the staff should always a united front...we're not in a war against some enemy. Diversity in opinion is what makes this very community interesting.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
October 19 2009 21:29 GMT
#131
haha Great read. Loved the Nal_rA to Bisu comparison.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
October 19 2009 21:37 GMT
#132
On October 20 2009 00:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
It's great you liked my article but please stfu.

LOL! Classic stuff!

Great article by the way, it really got me thinking.
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21552 Posts
October 19 2009 21:41 GMT
#133
On October 20 2009 05:12 iamho wrote:
i think this article tried too hard to be realist and ended up in exaggeration

I think it tried too hard to exaggerate and ended up realistic.
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kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
October 19 2009 21:50 GMT
#134
On October 20 2009 00:15 iSiN wrote:
it's like a staff flame war


this is just getting better and better, cant wait for a "reply" of another staff...

PD: great reading by the way....
"It is not a shameful thing to be unable to reach the goal. It's becoming afraid and running away, even before considering the fact that the road is long and rough, that is truly cowardly." by - Lim Yo Hwan aka SlayerS_Boxer from "Crazy as me"
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
October 19 2009 21:52 GMT
#135
finally T_T iv been thinking this the moment I learned about the scene.. or whenever someone says back then
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 19 2009 22:11 GMT
#136
On October 20 2009 03:56 hyst.eric.al wrote:
sexy read
is plexa fuming?

Not in the slightest, why should i be? This doesn't contradict anything riptide/myself said in BBW
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
October 19 2009 22:12 GMT
#137
HB is awesome
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
ForSC2
Profile Joined June 2009
United States580 Posts
October 19 2009 22:19 GMT
#138
It's important to have some people that can transition to new players as Starcraft goes on. Because the career length of a player is so short it can be hard to keep following Starcraft when all your favorite players are retired. For a while I didn't like all these new faces showing up in Starcraft beating old players because I couldn't get attached to them. But if no one can switch to the next generation whos going to be watching Starcraft when no one we like plays?

The problem I have with the current best player bandwagon mentality is when people talk like it's such a fucking insight that the best player today is better than the best player a year ago. It's like yeah obviously the Mars Rover is more technologically advanced then Apollo 11. But some people have the gall to compare the two like the Mars Rover is more important than the Apollo 11 ever was. That is the part that makes me angry, not the bandwagon mentality itself, but the ignorance in the arguments presented by the people that think the Mars Rover is greater than Apollo 11 could ever be.

That's why when people say you think Jaedong/Bisu/Flash is Bonjwa? It's like such a slap in the face when all the discussion really shows is that they really don't understand the meaning of the term Bonjwa itself. There's nothing wrong with liking whomever, in fact it helps the longevity of Starcraft because new players get support as well.

The problem occurs if a player that only follows casually with limited knowledge says not only is my player great he's a bigger deal than any player that has ever come before him.

Consider this sentence:
You see that guy Anytime on Ace? Wow he sucks noob, maybe he could learn to play Protoss from Backho, that's a real Protoss player.

If there was a Backho bandwagon and someone said this, do you see all the things that are wrong with this statement? Or why such a person could easily be labeled as ignorant or of having a less valuable/informed opinion vs someone else? Even if he was a Backho fan the only thing it accomplished was lowering the perceived IQ of Backho fans everywhere through the sheer ignorance of such a statement.

The following is certainly not a sentence to Hotbid, but to casual current best player bandwagons. If a person follows Starcraft casually with limited knowledge they don't care to increase, they should not try to educate people when they haven't taken the initiative to educate themself.

Bandwagons can be good, casual fans that haven't made the slightest effort to learn about something before educating others is bad.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2883#comic
FallingTeardrops
Profile Joined October 2009
United States46 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 22:47:32
October 19 2009 22:20 GMT
#139
There was always someone to start something.

Just because their time has come and go, doesn't mean we shouldn't still root for that player. Sure, if you focus on the past you'll get nowhere in the future, but we honor war veterans and give them respect, don't we? Shouldn't we do the same for veterans of Starcraft?

What's the point of museums if all they serve is to reminisce of old, smelly artifacts from an ancient period? What's the point of cherishing anything from a past time-frame if you don't respect how it got there? The fact that people still have a special place in their hearts for old-timers such as BoxeR or Yellow, proves that.

I don't think this should be a front-page spread. It doesn't necessarily reflect any other person's views and values, all it does is have a negative connotation towards sentimentalism.

And why the fuck is my race automatically selected as Terran?

Mod Edit: No need to bold your entire post, we can read it just fine without
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 22:47:45
October 19 2009 22:39 GMT
#140
On October 20 2009 07:20 FallingTeardrops wrote:
There was always someone to start something.

Just because their time has come and go, doesn't mean we shouldn't still root for that player. Sure, if you focus on the past you'll get nowhere in the future, but we honor war veterans and give them respect, don't we? Shouldn't we do the same for veterans of Starcraft?

What's the point of museums if all they serve is to reminisce of old, smelly artifacts from an ancient period? What's the point of cherishing anything from a past time-frame if you don't respect how it got there? The fact that people still have a special place in their hearts for old-timers such as BoxeR or Yellow, proves that.

I don't think this should be a front-page spread. It doesn't necessarily reflect any other person's views and values, all it does is have a negative connotation towards sentimentalism.

And why the fuck is my race automatically selected as Terran?

You can change your race in your profile ' -'a
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