[GG] Mafia XII - The Summer Season - Page 5

TruthBringer

United States578 Posts

July 03 2009 03:23 GMT

#81

Sunny will be handy later if both our assassins are alive and we have some good suspects.
Rain could be decent if both our angels are still alive and mafia lose some of their men.
Snow, we'll just decide how well we like Plexa's clues and that will influence whether or not we use snow.
Fog is the safest way to start, reduce mafia KP at start, so fewer people die on the first turn.

Canada4732 Posts

July 03 2009 03:24 GMT

#82

On July 03 2009 12:03 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:

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They don't necessarily give any information, especially if someone's platform is to run just to put another name on the ballot. If anything, that spreads things out and makes it easier to mafia to alter the voting with less effort.

The platform isn't simply putting another name on the ballot, but that's the only concrete benefit we get out of another person running. I've already outlined my basic gameplan as emp, but all of that is subject to change if we get lucky hits, lose a fuckton of blues, a bunch of people play retardedly, etc.

I really shy away from making predictions which aren't mathematically probable, and that's why i'm not going to try and lock myself into a certain mode of play. My preferred mode would be the one I listed, but you can go back up and read it.

Pyrrhuloxia

United States6700 Posts

July 03 2009 03:51 GMT

#83

On July 03 2009 12:24 L wrote:

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Alright, I understand your plan a little better now with your further explanation / clarification. It's something to consider but, like you say, a lot could go wrong. Fog spam, though not fancy, is pretty sturdy and will help us win the game if we just play better than the mafia.

Scaramanga

Australia8092 Posts

July 03 2009 03:58 GMT

#84

On July 03 2009 12:23 TruthBringer wrote:
Sunny will be handy later if both our assassins are alive and we have some good suspects.
Rain could be decent if both our angels are still alive and mafia lose some of their men.
Snow, we'll just decide how well we like Plexa's clues and that will influence whether or not we use snow.
Fog is the safest way to start, reduce mafia KP at start, so fewer people die on the first turn.

this is what im thinking
first day greens get on the fog

Canada4732 Posts

July 03 2009 04:44 GMT

#85

On July 03 2009 12:51 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:

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The problem I have with fog is that we can assuredly get a few pledges with proper list checks during days 2-5 which opens us to the other 3 weather choices. If we're right about the 4.5kp-> 5, after 2 pledge kills we gain the equivalent of perma fog.

Doing so opens us up to something like rain spam/res into sunny when we're sure about our clues. Rain spam is a net -.33 mafia kp, since if done right we can keep our mystic invulnerable pretty much the entire game.

The goal, as usual is how to net some early KP cutting kills, and that's where I'm somewhat on the fence. Snow and an active town with solid clue interpretation + list checks is devastating. Snow + a stupid town + poor DT control is a gigantic waste of weather. That's why I don't want to really pin weather down for future days until we see what type of information we're pulling out.

Either way, day 1 fog is the best option assuming no one can capitalize on a snow clue. When day 2 rolls around, we'll have some more information to go on and we'll be better placed to discuss what the best course of action lays ahead of us.

Pyrrhuloxia

United States6700 Posts

July 03 2009 04:51 GMT

#86

Don't forget that proper list checks require high activity and total compliance and no game has ever had full activity (not even ones that have more checks against inactivity than this one does) plus every game has townies that fuck around.

Canada4732 Posts

July 03 2009 05:07 GMT

#87

I'm somewhat hoping that green townies having a critical game function will help out in that manner, but no, I'm not assuming we'll have perfect vote lists.

In actuality, some people dropping off of lists will speed shit up depending on the counts we get.

Either way, I'm not 100% into going full out on list checking. I kinda want to see how people vote today and who's killed. If we have a bunch of high suspicion players, having our DTs check individual alignments might be more worth our while. Regardless, that's something we'll have to discuss more when we have additional information.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

July 03 2009 05:08 GMT

#88

On July 03 2009 07:38 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK first off

I AM RUNNING FOR OFFICE

I am already seeing idiocy of players that has led to many vets getting insanely discouraged with playing these games. I appreciate Plexa for trying to make this game interesting with the addition of different roles, tweaking how some work, and the addition of fog. Now lets outline why I should be in office.

You make it sound as if your campaign is "I'm smart, you're all idiots, that's why I should be in office"

motbob

United States12546 Posts

July 03 2009 05:12 GMT

#89

On July 03 2009 14:08 Foolishness wrote:

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You make it sound as if your campaign is "I'm smart, you're all idiots, that's why I should be in office"

A solid campaign, considering how the elected officials acted in Pyrr's game.

EDIT: took out unnecessary "the"

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

July 03 2009 05:16 GMT

#90

On July 03 2009 14:12 motbob wrote:

A solid campaign, considering how the elected officials acted in Pyrr's game.

EDIT: took out unnecessary "the"

Which is exactly my point. JeeJee ran under the premise he was experienced, and he was one of the main reasons the town lost.

BloodyC0bbler

Canada7876 Posts

July 03 2009 05:29 GMT

#91

On July 03 2009 14:16 Foolishness wrote:

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Which is exactly my point. JeeJee ran under the premise he was experienced, and he was one of the main reasons the town lost.

See I've competently lead(along with sog) a town to victory in a elected position, and we manhandled the mafia.

Also note, Jeejee isnt amazing, hes played but not super experienced.

I also have a valid start to how to do this game as opposed to argue weather conditions, WHICH WE ARE STILL DOING. FFS vote fog and lets get the elections voting going.

Pyrrhuloxia

United States6700 Posts

July 03 2009 05:40 GMT

#92

Well, not much else to talk about until day post / voting thread, I guess.

Foolishness

United States3044 Posts

July 03 2009 05:46 GMT

#93

On July 03 2009 14:40 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Well, not much else to talk about until day post / voting thread, I guess.

Oh I beg to differ. We've got elections to worry about. I know you're hard set on your vote but with only three candidates there's a lot to worry about.

araav

Armenia1590 Posts

July 03 2009 06:31 GMT

#94

hey, hey

let's see who is who, shall we?

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