EPTA comeback seems improbable now for me, but I hope you all can reconsider me for Mayor. Again my platform is on page 8 if you haven't read it yet.
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
A comeback seems improbable now for me, but I hope you all can reconsider me for Mayor. Again my platform is on page 8 if you haven't read it yet. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
Shikyo wrote: About multiple people claiming to have saved A, we don't necessarily have to kill all those people. Yes, we do. Read my posts again. Same reason that if a Vigi claims a hit we have to lynch the Vigi afterward if we want to believe him. Pawsom wrote: Just a thought, if we get a succesful towny identification through a medic save, could the medic saving him go ahead and role claim, and then call for another medic to protect him, while he continues to protect the player he saved? No. We need to confirm the role of the medic, so we have to lynch the medic. In general public roleclaiming is not helpful for the town since we gain nothing from it until we confirm whether you're being truthful. The only surefire way to do that (unless we have a confirmed towny ... and in this case public roleclaiming is just giving the mafia extra information we don't want them to have anyway) is to have the player roleclaiming die. The mafia, on the other hand, benefit from public roleclaiming immediately. Anyway I think for the remainder of the day we should focus on the candidates. Whoever gets elected can start planning tonight in case we end up with a successful save. --- I like JeeJee's post giving advice. Nothing in it (I skimmed most of it, admittedly) seems off-base to me. I'm trusting on his experience and his activity and going to vote for him. His advice for the mafia is particularly strong and I advise all the reds to follow it  One thing I would add--DO NOT ROLECLAIM TO ANYONE unless you have a very good reason for doing so. Most especially, do not just roleclaim to an elected role because they got elected. This very much includes the bodyguards--see what happened on night 1 in Mafia VIII for why. | ||
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Jimtudor
Canada259 Posts
On May 20 2009 05:17 BWdero wrote: Any chance on you telling us which name you sent to Pyhrry? Or haven't you done that yet? No, I haven't. I got a timetable from Pyrr that I need to send it in before 8PST. I won't miss it and I will tell once I made a decision. | ||
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
Some things I've noticed in this new mafia game. 1. Since most of the players, me included, are still quite new to the game, I've noticed that many have nothing in their public profiles. In a mafia game, this is a really bad thing since clues pointing to said person must be name based. I will attempt to complie a list later of people with blank public profiles. And 2. Pyrr's writing seems to contain more obvious clues than the last couple games. Off my first read, I think that the referece to decaf coffee and drumsticks is a clue DTs ought to look into. | ||
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teks
Norway263 Posts
On May 20 2009 05:28 crate wrote: Yes, we do. Read my posts again. Same reason that if a Vigi claims a hit we have to lynch the Vigi afterward if we want to believe him. Really? If the Vigi hits a red we know it's a vigi hit, and if he told 3-4 people via PM before he did the hit they can confirm his story. We would have a confirmed townie then. Unless you believe that the mafia would risk 3-4 of their members to backup one person in order to get to the confirmed townie position, only to be revealed by a DT or a clue? Problem is, of course, if he doesn't hit a red. He can do the same thing, revealing himself and calling for the support of the receivers of his PM, but he would be no more useful than any other townie. I'd also like the candidates to start figuring out who they are going to lynch. Props to zeks on this part, I agree on your choice, but it doesn't seem that you are the one getting to execute it. I do hope that the other candidates reads it and considers it as well though. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
I've been trying to find the link with decaffeinated coffee with a drumstick, since that's a pretty strong hint, but nothing says it in their profiles or their usernames. It has already been mentioned in this very thread, multiple times, that this is a running joke among the game hosts and decafchicken's history in mafia. Moreover, it's a well-known fact if you had played or read the previous games. So what's the point of posting this, aside from hoping misinformed/new townies start climbing up the wrong tree? (same question goes to you, raxor2) Also, I'll address this earlier post made by jimtudor: Jeejee, I had an eye on you ever since my preliminary clue search but these are so weak that I wanted to wait for one more day and wasn't putting it out. Now, after the echo chamber that you had with ilovektf and quiet support makes me more skeptical. Meanwhile, downstairs, Qatol was using the Triumvirate Building's spacious archery range for target practice. As he looked down to reload, another figure crossed the room from the other side. The mafioso crept behind Qatol and took out his knife. Qatol never shot another arrow. Fear is the strongest driving force in competition. Not fear of one's opponent, but of the skill and high standard he represents; fear, too, of not acquitting oneself well. In the achievement of higher performances, of beating formidable rivals, the athlete defeats fear and conquers himself. -Franz Stampfl Your profile contains pretty much the only reference to athletic competition in the whole game. Franz Stampfl was a famous coach that had somewhat revolutionary ideas for how to train your body and practice for your sport, although he specialized in training runners he also trained other athletes in other fields. He was a noted olympic trainer, got his trainees many golds. The only place where archery is relevant today is athletic competition and the olympics. I find it interesting that you mention stampfl being the only reference to any athletic competition in this game when your very name is that of a hockey player (a traditionally fast sport). Obviously it's not even close to being a good mafia link, I just wanted to point out the convenient omission on your part. Moreover, you didn't even state any strategy you would follow as sheriff/mayor or comment on any outlined plans in the thread so far. A good townie should always be reading and trying to figure out holes in potential plans, as well as pointing them out, something you have failed to do. This bring me to my final point -- I'm sorely disappointed that nobody jumped on my mistake in my analysis of roles. In particular, I have completely ommitted the possibility of godfather when describing what DTs should do if they r/c someone. Obviously they should never reveal their role no matter what the other person flips as, due to gf being in the game. Why was this not brought up? It tells me that either the people who are actively posting (and therefore reading) in the thread either a) aren't careful or b) didn't want to point it out. Comments? Oh and finally, given that the mayor race is still pretty close, I fully agree with zeks' reasoning for the first lynch choice being therapy: I choose therapy. Justification on therapy: His one post: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi guys, just chiming in here so I don't get killed for inactiveness. This is my first mafia game besides playing with about 15 friends around 2 years ago so I'm probably not going to be saying anything too profound. I haven't really been swayed by any of the potential sheriff's speech's so far, they sound reasonably intelligent but don't state anything that's beyond just general knowledge or logic. If I dunno who to vote for should I just abstain or should I take a shot in the dark? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The majority of us have agreed to lynch an inactive for first lynch, and the whole purpose of his one post is so that he won't be on the chopping block for this lynch. It is because of this that makes me suspicious of him. He may have posted once, so it looks like he's better than the ones that haven't posted, but I think his post was as good as nothing. Furthermore, his profile has pretty much one thing to relate clues to: the quote: "Let's start a revolution so I can break some shit." I am linking this to the last part of day 1: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Without warning, his windshield shattered and a wave of glass ripped through LTT's face. Passing out from blood loss, LTT's head slumped, sounding a horn that would not be heard in time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This isn't the strongest clue, but the links are: "break some shit" -> "windshield shattered and a wave of glass..." "start a revolution" -> "sounding a horn" So because of those two counts and the majority of us wanting to lynch an inactive, I would thus lynch therapy if I were to be elected mayor. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On May 20 2009 05:46 teks wrote: Really? If the Vigi hits a red we know it's a vigi hit, and if he told 3-4 people via PM before he did the hit they can confirm his story. We would have a confirmed townie then. I wasn't talking about the scenario you are talking about here at all. | ||
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teks
Norway263 Posts
On May 20 2009 05:56 crate wrote: I wasn't talking about the scenario you are talking about here at all. Oh, my bad then. I'll go back and view your posts one more time.  | ||
l10f
United States3241 Posts
On May 20 2009 05:49 JeeJee wrote: The recent streak of votes for jimtudor cause me to raise an eyebrow when I look at their history and the lack of jimtudor's posts lately. That's what I thought too when I looked at the vote results so far, but it might be too soon to point fingers at people. However it's definitely something to watch out for. Oh and finally, given that the mayor race is still pretty close, I fully agree with zeks' reasoning for the first lynch choice being therapy: I also think it's a good idea to lynch the inactives (especially someone who posted just so he's not inactive) because they wouldn't be any help to the town even if they turned out to be blue or green. | ||
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
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teks
Norway263 Posts
On May 20 2009 06:03 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: There are 7 mafia in this game. So far JeeJee is in second place with only 6 votes and Jimtudor is in third with 5 votes. I'm almost 100% sure one of the two is a mafia member and that the people voting for him are mafia. Of the two I believe JimTudor is more suspicious because most of his voters have been mostly inactive. I strongly encourage abstaintees to vote or mafia may elect a mayor with their 7 man voting power. I'm thinking the same thing. I first thought the mafia candidate was JeeJee, seeing how he was voted on by Jayme and iLoveKTF who already had connections to the possible clues, and BWdero, who was suspected by Shikyo. The latest posts from JeeJee have turned me though, I too think it's probably JimTudor who's the red one here, I might change my vote to JeeJee seeing how Shikyo basically already has secured his spot, and I think it's good that JeeJee agrees with zeks on who to lynch first. I'll wait a bit longer though. | ||
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On May 20 2009 06:08 teks wrote: I'm thinking the same thing. I first thought the mafia candidate was JeeJee, seeing how he was voted on by Jayme and iLoveKTF who already had connections to the possible clues, and BWdero, who was suspected by Shikyo. The latest posts from JeeJee have turned me though, I too think it's probably JimTudor who's the red one here, I might change my vote to JeeJee seeing how Shikyo basically already has secured his spot, and I think it's good that JeeJee agrees with zeks on who to lynch first. I'll wait a bit longer though. How do you think we should carry out the check on Jimtudor after JeeJee gets the mayor spot? He should definitely be checked out, but I don't know with what method. Lynch him? Role check him? | ||
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
1. Pawsom 2. Foolishness 3. Shiyko 4. The Master 5. EsbenPM (his quote is "hi") 6. Knutti 7. Koopie | ||
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l10f
United States3241 Posts
On May 20 2009 06:14 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: Role checks cannot be done night 1, and if Tudor is elected, we can no longer role check him. The same goes for JeeJee. However, if we are able to lynch one of his voters and he flips red, i think lynching him would be a smart move. Again, this can also be applied if JeeJee wins the election. So you want to lynch a voter for both JeeJee and Jimtudor, regardless of who wins? | ||
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
On May 20 2009 06:20 l10f wrote: So you want to lynch a voter for both JeeJee and Jimtudor, regardless of who wins? No im saying depending on who won, we can lynch one of their voters, and if he flips up red, we can be suspicious of the new mayor. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
I don't necessarily think Tudor is red at this point since I can't connect really any clues to him (I don't understand his quote, and his name is apparently a name of a hockey player), and his actions haven't really been too suspicious. I'm also not completely 100% sold on JeeJee's alignment, but right now my gut feeling tells me to trust him over Tudor. The mayor role has quite the big effect with the 3 votes, and in tight voting races it could really sway the result. From the looks of this JeeJee will become mayor, and I hope you decide to go with the lynch of therapy. | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
On May 20 2009 06:22 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: No im saying depending on who won, we can lynch one of their voters, and if he flips up red, we can be suspicious of the new mayor. If the right clues connect to one of the voters then yes; so I believe my suggestion of checking the voters first should be valid. We shouldn't be lynching just a random person off the list. | ||
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Jank
United States308 Posts
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