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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 16 2009 04:49 GMT
#81
Scaramanga's profile says he is on a boat. Qatol and LTT were killed on a boat. Coincidence? I think not!!!
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 16 2009 04:51 GMT
#82
I am running for office!

Qualifications: read the past 5 games.

Reasons: I don't feel like dying first night again. Mafia know how much of a threat I am regardless of role. Furthermore, I have absolutely no trust in medics to keep me alive after everyone second guessed protting me the last time I was town while one doofus protted the guy I had declared mafia.

I don't have anything to say about accountability because I'll make it glaringly obvious that I'm on the town's side. Because being mafia takes so much time I only make the minimum number of posts; when I'm town it's the exact opposite.

Mafia will no doubt wish to discredit or ignore me but that will only lead them to their ruin quicker.
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
May 16 2009 04:51 GMT
#83

and sipping decaf coffee

He's not in this game, damn.
I'm going to see who's running in about 12 hours, I really want to snag a place in that Blizzcon ticket line before anything mafia related.

Words that stand out to me in Qatol's death: "Blur", "leapt".
But day 1 clues are almost never good to go off of, obviously. Just trying to stimulate discussion here.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 16 2009 04:56 GMT
#84
I too, am running for mayor.

I urge town as I usually do to avoid bandwagons. Last time, we bandwagoned Qatol, and trusted him like we initially trusted Obama-namely, blindly and to points beyond reason (heh politics)

However, I believe that Ver is a good candidate for the position too. In Ace's mafia game, he was essentially running town more than I was-the eminence grise of the town. Granted we lost, but that was more due to my bumbling than to his responsibility.

However, my experience in every single mafia game, as well as natural suspicion of pretty much all authority, helps me to understand the role of mayor and thus I feel I am also a strong candidate for the mayoral position.

Again, however, I caution strongly against bandwagoning.
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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
May 16 2009 05:02 GMT
#85
On May 16 2009 12:05 dreamflower wrote:
Yeah, that trouble-making Mountain Time resident. Hmph.

By the way, I made another list of compiled profile information here (work was incredibly slow today, so I thought, "Why not?"). Please let me know if it's considered to be cluttering up the Mafia forum. I figured it was better to make a thread rather than a blog entry, as the thread doesn't need to be bumped constantly for people to find it.


This is now linked below the player list. Thanks!
Uff Da
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 16 2009 05:04 GMT
#86
Oh and one more thing:

From my experience last game, I think rather than try and lynch off day one clues, we should use day one clues as a confirmation point for any potential suspects from Day 2 and onwards clues, like I did with 3clipse at the last moment.
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Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
May 16 2009 05:08 GMT
#87
If plexa is mafia caller is too.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 16 2009 05:09 GMT
#88
On May 16 2009 14:04 Caller wrote:
Oh and one more thing:

From my experience last game, I think rather than try and lynch off day one clues, we should use day one clues as a confirmation point for any potential suspects from Day 2 and onwards clues, like I did with 3clipse at the last moment.


Yeah I agree. IMO the best course of action is for whoever is elected to lynch an inactive, after some discussion by the town. I think this has been discussed like every game, so we should all know the reasons by now I hope.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
May 16 2009 05:10 GMT
#89
That is, of course, assuming there are any inactive(s). If everyone is active, then um, I don't know.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 16 2009 05:11 GMT
#90
On May 16 2009 14:08 Malongo wrote:
If plexa is mafia caller is too.

NOU
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 16 2009 06:00 GMT
#91
Okay. So L is going to do some math because that's what L does.

So we have 30 total people, 1 traitor, 6 mafia total, 23 town. Mafia essentially have 7 total voting power maximum, so town auto-loses when they're under 6 people. In the worst possible scenario, mafia kill 3 per day + 1 mislynch (lets ignore double lynches b/c i'm lazy).

Essentially townie numbers go

23-Current
19-Tomorrow
15-Next day
11-Day 4
7-Day 5

Add in a missed vig hit or missed double lynches and we can be out of the game by day 5. We're essentially obligated to hit correctly on day 2 or 3 or we're in the shitter. We can't fuck around and pretend that day 2-3 are clue gathering days and that we can float until day 4 and suddenly start knocking people out.

What does this mean? ACTIVITY. Don't have anything to say? Think of something. If 5 pages go by and you haven't said anything you are fucking the down in the butt.

I have a feeling people have been a postin' so ima post this, read and then post s'more.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 16 2009 06:01 GMT
#92
I was wrong. No one posted.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 16 2009 06:14 GMT
#93
OK BOYO'S!

I know the game doesnt officially start till friday but guess what! That doesn't stop the bloodyc0bbler platform wooooooooooooo.

Ok guys, this game will be the hardest one potentially we have ever done, as such we need to get the mafia as soon as this game starts. I've shown a record of insane amount of clue analyzing from previous games, as such I believe I would make a good candidate for the town to keep alive. I however, would prefer to be pardoner, this allows me to help prevent potentially townbreaking lynches.

As mayor, I would analyze the clues (as this is my forte) and bring them to your attention and direct votes on the best possible suspects, thus bringing the town some central leadership to avoid chaos.

As pardoner, I would do generally the same idea, however, would use my ability to prevent lynches on cases where it appeared someone with no links was up for no reason.

Vote for order, vote for BloodyC0bbler
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 16 2009 06:49 GMT
#94
My thoughts on the election so far.

BC wants pardoner. Why? To pardon lynches where the town is blindly following some stupid bandwagon. Under normal circumstances (Games prior to this) sure, this is a completely legitimate point. However this is a veteran's game. We supposedly know better than to fall into those traps. At the very least, we know to pause when people put forward logically consistent arguments.

My point is this. BCs reason for wanting pardoner is to me, dodgy. There are obvious reasons as to why mafia would want a player in the pardoner position. I'd caution against voting for any player who specifically asks for that elected role.

On to Ver: I think if Ver achieved an elected position, based on his platform he would then have to be both active (said as much) and effective (He has a history of correct decisions and good reads). If he fails in either of those, it would to be be a significant indicator of guilt. So what I'm getting at is that if we elect Ver as mayor, he has basically put himself into the position where he *has* to be both useful and active, or we start lynching.

Keep in mind I don't think that's an amazing reason to vote for someone, but it's something I'm going to keep in mind while I wait for the other platforms.

Caller: Caller runs every election. Much the same platform each time. Nothing suspicious there that I can see.

I'm going out tonight and I'll check back tomorrow to see what has been happening before placing my vote.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
May 16 2009 06:50 GMT
#95
EBWOP:

At the very least, we know to pause when people put forward logically consistent arguments as to why we are bandwagoning stupidly*
Their are four errors in this sentance.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 16 2009 06:59 GMT
#96
On May 16 2009 12:55 LucasWoJ wrote:
Are we allowed to play the game without ever looking at our role, or would that be against the spirit of the game as well?


That's kinda what I was thinking before the game started. So I'm not going to look at my role until after the elections.

With that said, I'm going to say that BC's candidacy is also very sketchy like Bockit pointed out. Like in Ace's game, MTF became godfather mayor and pretty much handed over the town organization to Caller, probably trying to avoid the spotlight. Players have been known to blindly trust the mayor in every game pretty much, so BC may be attempting to avoid suspicion while getting into a position of power/save mafia lives/be invincible from vigi hits (not like there are so many vigis in this game). Of course I may be totally wrong. But this does look suspicious to me.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 16 2009 07:02 GMT
#97
Bockit, you are correct that in a vet game, there should be less of the players bandwagoning, but regardless, shady evidence is used in most games to push lynches. As such either a decent clue analyzer or behavioural analyzer should be pardoner, as they can stop potential blunders. I believe my playing style gives me a better style to be a pardoner over mayor.


And I really hope people know when to pause in this game when accuded of bandwagoning stupidly.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 16 2009 07:16 GMT
#98
Yeah, the pardoner position really doesn't help us. Ever. We have a very limited amount of time to hit the proper targets and unless we're 100% certain our target is green, pardoning is generally a VERY BAD CHOICE. If pardoner drops into mafia hands, it sets us back at least a single day, possibly 2.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 16 2009 07:16 GMT
#99
From what I recall, a play for pardoner is usually weird, unless someone has specific intentions to get into that spot. Like the pardoner was mafia on several occasions.

While I doubt BC would make his intentions that obvious, I still think he warrants some further notice if clues point to him.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 16 2009 07:21 GMT
#100
The only time I can see pardoner being used to the advantage of the town is if we get a blue in there and he has a role that can either be checked via usage of its powers, or retains the same level of power regardless of use. Vig in pardoner would do fuck all for us. Paramedic or detective are the only two roles I can see benefitting the town if they're placed there.

For that matter, I can only see Medic or DT being useful in the mayor slot too.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
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