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Who is the mysterious man in the shadows, pulling the strings? :tinfoil hat: | ||
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On May 21 2009 06:00 Caller wrote: muhahahahah you shall soon all fall under the influence of... THE PUPPET MASTER!!! ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/50/Puppet_Master_4.jpg)  lmao I am seriously stumped though... just like the mayoral elections. People are hatin' on each other and I don't want to be the guy that helps get the wrong person lynched. Time is running out.. | ||
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On May 21 2009 07:56 MTF wrote: - This isn't really a late bandwagon. In fact, I'm more fearful of the one I feel is approaching. Namely, the one that comes right after Ver posts a novel in a few hours, just before the vote closes. Yeah, Ver's absence is unusual. It's possible he's been really, busy; he did mention defending his honors thesis or something like that. But he hasn't even popped in to just leave a remark since right after the day post | ||
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On May 21 2009 09:31 Bockit wrote: These are exactly the same stunts Ver pulled last game, don't fall for them! He might legitimately have an honours thesis to defend, I'm not going to make a call on that. What I am going to make a call on is that he promised activity in his electoral platform, I'll even quote him. Read that again, look at his posting habits (both sparsity and content) and then try to tell me his absence is merely unusual Yeah I know. Things do come up unexpectedly in real life, which is why I hesitate to call his absence more than a little suspicious. I think Ver is well aware that being this absent is obvious and people will call it out, like we are. If he was mafia and didn't want to die, wouldn't he have taken more initiative in being active? | ||
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On May 21 2009 09:54 Bockit wrote: That's the argument I'm expecting him to take if he is mafia. It's the only thing he can really do to try and save himself. Right. You also need to ask though, why would Ver so blatantly promise to be active and then just disappear? Again, something like that is going to be picked up on (and it was). I don't think Ver would make a statement like that if he knew he wasn't going to be around to post. But as you said, he can just use that excuse if he comes back, whether he was feigning inactivity or genuinely gone. And i don't think that really tells us if he was mafia or innocent, because he could be a) mafia and actually gone b) mafia and faking inactive c) innocent and actually gone I don't think any innocent person would fake inactivity. But then this raises another question: how woul Ver act if he is the traitor? Blargh | ||
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On May 21 2009 09:59 Bockit wrote: My point is, the argument by no means establishes innocence because it's the most obvious position to take to try and prove ones innocence. And since it's essentially unprovable unless you know the person outside of the game, it's easy to lie about. Yeah this is basically what I was trying to say, in so many words. | ||
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On May 21 2009 11:15 Ver wrote: b) Or should the vigilante hit me? If you're actually a veteran why would we waste the vig hit on you? | ||
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On May 21 2009 11:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote: It proves his role, means the town sees that he is infact a blue and rallies behind him And then he has only 1 night life left, our vig hit is gone, and it's easier for the mafia to kill him. And it means the medic pretty much has to protect Ver, no? | ||
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"destructive influence on the game." I wonder what he means by that... i would laugh very hard if Ver flips traitor from all this | ||
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On May 21 2009 13:00 dreamflower wrote: All right, fine. I'm finally going to roleclaim, because I'm tired of hearing people suggesting that I should be lynched one second and then coming up with plans involving the vigi hit the next. It's been amusing, but also incredibly stressful, and I feel I could be doing not only the town but also myself some good by doing this. I'm the one vigilante in this game. This is why I've been quieter than usual this game, though I doubt it would necessarily have been noticeable for most. It's why I've avoided the spotlight and tried to post only when I had something truly substantial to share or when I wanted to defend myself so that I could carry out my role. Ver did correctly guess my color, but not its exact, shall we say, flavor. But then, there are twice as many medics and detectives as there are vigilantes in this game, after all. Now, why should you believe me? Well, it would be highly risky for Mafia to ever roleclaim vigilante, even in ordinary circumstances when there are more than one. In this game, when there's only one vigilante, it becomes even more dangerous, even for the godfather. They can't run the risk of having their clues repeat, as the vigilante has only one hit and which clues show up in the Day posts aren't under their control. It's true that Mafia can kill their own members this round, but I don't think they'd want to chance that, with only six members this game. So, I'd really like to see if Mafia tries to roleclaim vigilante as well, as I'm the legitimate vigilante and they, well, would just make themselves targets. asdf i don't think you needed to do this at all | ||
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On May 21 2009 13:02 L wrote: Dreamflower. You will vig hit whomever is not killed tonight. If you don't, I am going to bring this town straight down on your ass tomorrow as planned. You will do this because roleclaiming will have you 100% killed, so its really not an issue either way. If there is an extra hit tonight which corresponds with you, done. Problem solved. If not we proceed with tomorrow's double hit. What if Ace gets lynched, so she vigi's Ver, who happened to not be bullshitting about being a vet? | ||
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On May 21 2009 13:12 L wrote: Even if both are blue, we cant' confirm innocence unless Ver flips red on kill. Either both bullshit about the hit, which is likely because they're both going to die day 3 anyways, or Ver dies to a clue linking to dream and she's proven correct. Still working out the rest of the details, thanks for your input here. I think requesting modkill points to being innocent. Reasoning: it lets us know his alignment without wasting a town kill. Also if he's going to be inactive again, it would be better to get rid of himself so the town isn't arguing about like we did all Day | ||
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On May 21 2009 13:21 MTF wrote: Asking if possible =/= requesting. Lots of flawed logic being used by all of you last minute voters. I'm under the impression that he is going to be modkilled no matter what... maybe I misread something? | ||
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I don't know if this is a good idea. But it seems everyone is as confused as I am right now: From: Ver Subject: Re: you hit the mark Date: 5/21/09 12:49 To prove my innocence without the town wasting a kill and because I might be gone the next two days. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: hah yeah except I was semi-joking and according to you Ace is the traitor... why do you want to be modkilled? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: This is true Nice eye. | ||
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On May 21 2009 13:48 Ver wrote: No I haven't. I said I will but if people want info I'll give it. tell me if you were leading me on | ||
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My voting record also sucks. This I admit. If you read my posts it's pretty obvious what my alignment is. Wait to see what Ver flips before making accusations like this. | ||
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