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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 21 2009 02:15 GMT
#1261
Now for the overall question for the town

a) Should I modkill myself after the lynch (already confirmed that qatol will do this)?

b) Or should the vigilante hit me?

I suggest everyone vote on what you want me to do after Ace dies. I am determined to prove my innocence in the most direct manner but I don't want this lynch to be wasted on me.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 21 2009 04:45 GMT
#1461
LOL. That's just sad.

Ok I'm gonna modkill myself.

Any final requests? I'll stay on and take them before I go.

Finally I can be done and take a break from mafia (I'm sitting out next game too I'm sick of it).
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 21 2009 04:48 GMT
#1466
On May 21 2009 13:48 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 13:47 Qatol wrote:
On May 21 2009 13:47 L wrote:
On May 21 2009 13:45 Ver wrote:
LOL. That's just sad.

Ok I'm gonna modkill myself.

Any final requests? I'll stay on and take them before I go.

Finally I can be done and take a break from mafia (I'm sitting out next game too I'm sick of it).


Release all of your PMs. They'll be fairly useful.

To: Qatol. When will Ver die?

When he asks for the modkill...........

he just did?


No I haven't. I said I will but if people want info I'll give it.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 21 2009 04:57 GMT
#1477
On May 21 2009 13:49 L wrote:
FULL LIST OF PMs.

Go.


I have around 120-130 pm's.

I'm apathetic as it is no way am I posting that. Ask for specific info instead.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 21 2009 05:44 GMT
#1485
On May 21 2009 13:58 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2009 13:57 Ver wrote:
On May 21 2009 13:49 L wrote:
FULL LIST OF PMs.

Go.


I have around 120-130 pm's.

I'm apathetic as it is no way am I posting that. Ask for specific info instead.


Fair enough. Simple version:

Who do you suspect now that ace has turned up blue and the specific PMs that support that.


You're probably traitor. I thought one of you/ace was traitor and the other green b/c both your play was so awful and dirtied up this thread. Either way you should not be killed though because you aren't mafia (could very well still be green too; I don't know anymore this game was just a mass of badness).

My top suspects are:

MBH (Don't rolecheck as he would be GF, almost positive here)
0cz3c
fusionsdf
heavonearth
Bockit
cam/plexa. More likely Cam given he's like me (Apathetic when mafia). Possibly both?
showtime

Obviously not all 8 are mafia but yeah. Either way too many of them are not helping when they should be.

Too annoying to post pm's but basically you guys want to be looking out for people who are sitting around and not helping even though normally they are very active (fusion, heavon), people who don't contribute anything when they should be (mbh), or in general just look shifty (0cz3c).

On May 21 2009 13:59 Bockit wrote:
Have you been in contact with Plexa?

What has he been saying?



Have you been in contact with Showtime?

What has he been saying?



Have you been in contact with Bloodycobbler?

What has he been saying



What do you think about Nemy?



Why did you run for mayor as a veteran when veteran is the worst role to run for mayor?


All of them yes I have been in contact. Plexa said he was sick. His behavior mirrors AMW but it's not concrete. Uncertain of him.

Showtime yes. He and I haven't talked as much as we normally do. I *think* he might be innocent but it's honestly a hard read and he's contributing way less than he should be. By now he should have a good understanding of what's going on and I don't see it.

I've talked a lot with BC. He's been part of my coalition and he's provided lots of great insights. Positively innocent.

Nemy is likely innocent as well. Didn't trust me though so I haven't talked w/ him that much for awhile.

I didn't make up my 17 people or whoever who I thought were nonmafia. Go back and look for that.
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1. Caller
2. Incognito
3. scamp
5. bloodyc0bbler
6. fishball (Paramedic)
7. nemy
9. Ver (Veteran)
14. mikeymoo (Bodyguard)
15. dreamflower
16. ace (Towny)
17. infundibulum
19. mynock
20. LucasWoJ (Bodyguard)
21. amber[light]
25. infinity21 (green)
30. L


I ran for mayor as veteran because as I will explain in my 'will' I wanted to stay alive at least until day 3 for an elaborate plan. My role is irrelevant for my ability as a mayor. But quite frankly I'm a terrible mayor and am not going to run again because it's simply too annoying to deal with everything. In future games once I have interest again I'll be sitting in the shadows as per the norm and not try to play the front man. I didn't want to bother outscreaming everyone else earlier and I hope this mass of evidence/analysis can make things clearer.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 21 2009 05:52 GMT
#1486
I'll provide a few notes on myself before I go.

I seriously hope you guys reflect on what happened and try to analyze things for the future. I would not have done so many of those stunts I did to try and bait mafia out if I wasn't innocent (foiled thanks to masses of garbage that obstructed too much stuff, which is why I was so annoyed and had to start over). Furthermore, absences don't always reflect on role. I was constantly replying to pm's but I felt like anything I posted would be ignored/construed by some random garbage/analyzed by someone grossly wrong. Thus I felt it was useless to post since I couldn't bait out mafia with so many innocents just posting so often and fell back on analyzing with my coalition.

I encourage everyone to sit back, reflect on what happened, and remember my statement that the mafia are the one's who contribute as little as possible and have been staying in the shadows this entire game.

As for analyzing posts, Ace in my mind played this game like a traitor anyway. How much you trust him is up to you; I've been ignoring his posts for a very long time now. I really think L/Ace covered up way too many important posts by all their nonsensical posting. If anyone wants to find their useful points try your best ;/

I really am sorry for doing things like this. I grossly miscalculated how bad of an idea for my motivation running for mayor would be. But honestly I just need to sit out and ignore mafia for awhile. I came in fully motivated and just got so disgusted/and abhorred it. I probably haven't read more than 5 of the last 20 pages and during the lynch. The town doesn't trust me after I was wrong on Ace and this way we won't waste any more town KP on innocents.

As for my guilt, you have to analyze things on how much people are contributing to the town's wellfare. Remember, mafia don't want to contribute more than they have to. I contributed in my own weird way but all of my moves were based on trying to figure out mafia.

Btw absences were legit! Absences depend on context, and pm'ing is very helpful here.

Lastly, Mynock, just for laughs (even though I'm pretty positive you're innocent by posting this so you better not be lynched):

Mynock said: IF VER ISNT MAFIA (or traitor), LYNCH ME IMMEDIATELY. If I'm wrong on this one, call me stupid, call me retarded, call me whatever, I'll deserve it.


:D

I guess me and Ace both showed well that things aren't always as they seem. The game isn't over at all though. You guys have all the clout cleared up and can have a fresh start. Just need to be extremely accurate onwards. Good luck.
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
May 21 2009 05:54 GMT
#1487
I request to be modkilled so that I can focus on priorities and not screw over the town by sucking anymore.
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