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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:26 Tricode wrote: My only regret was not being able to get you killed like i wanted. Maybe I should have just not switched my joke vote of killing BC... And 0cz was kind of right at the end. Bad presentation and bad timing though. MVP probably should be MTF... | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 24 2009 15:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote: haha, or p ushing the death of townies.  I gave up many fake names, and in pm's i was trying to redirect df's hit, I set up a few votes for you into office actually ace due to how bulldogish you were being, etc..I tried to play alot more behind the scenes while keeping my regular level of activity in the thread going, then ver roleclaimed, df roleclaimed, caller was pushed from said circle and was red, then ver mod killed, df died and i had communication with tricode and nemy, in which i was then told to pin tricode. Except you couldn't have picked a worse target to push df's hit onto. You had a better chance of taking that hit than 0cz3c did....... | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
Mafia mvp should be L for the obvious work he did for us. | ||
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Town mvp should be 0cz3c, the guy had our numbers, and hard. MTF as a close second. Mafia mvp should be L for the obvious work he did for us. ROFL | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:29 Qatol wrote: Except you couldn't have picked a worse target to push df's hit onto. You had a better chance of taking that hit than 0cz3c did....... I didnt know that till after >.> | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:29 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Town mvp should be 0cz3c, the guy had our numbers, and hard. MTF as a close second. Mafia mvp should be L for the obvious work he did for us. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Was the caller emotion clues supposed to be a link to his profile picture of the I am afraid of chinese people, afraid being fear an emotion? Also why the hell is amber a sheep? lol I was suspicious of like 4 of those mafia, but 2-3 of them were off bad clue interpretations. There was some mention of light which I thought could refer to Amber. I remember Vivi's behavior stuck out then MTFs clue interp confirmed it for me, its a shame I didn't stick with what I though earlier in the thread "Kill both people the clue can refer to" which I thought was vivi57 and MrBabyHands. That would of been an epic lynch. I found it odd that MrBabyHands didn't want to release all his information, it seemed like an excuse as to why he didn't want more BS interpretations, considering we had no medics it was stupid to wait. He also didn't vote for double lynch, which we needed. This game was crazy and bad, but I actually feel like I learned something about clue reading and behavior from this game:D Its a shame Ver quit like that though. For caller, I am very "emotion". We chose a different one each time. Read amber's profile. Lamb = baby sheep. | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On May 24 2009 14:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Making fake clue analysis is hard Believe me, I can empathize with this. It seems like it should be easy enough, what with all the red herrings and honest mistakes others make, but for some reason it was even more time consuming to make fake analysis than it was to do it for real. On May 24 2009 14:25 Ace wrote: "ace says" Check out the Mayoral candidates. We dropped the ball, unfortunately. This is amazing and should not be buried so far away! :D On May 24 2009 14:43 Bockit wrote: What do people think about dt roleclaiming to get elected? It's gutsy and heavy-handed. Nemy thought he had a good reason for it, though, so it happened how it happened. That said, I would have a general rule for players in the future that all DT's roleclaiming on the first day should just be ignored. It's chaos and will always turn out to be either an absurdly overpowered power move or just a really, really dumb move. On May 24 2009 15:18 Ace wrote: Town MVP....hard to call. I'd say MTF because he had the right line of thinking but seemed too timid to force it out there. Ask anyone that was in my Mafia team when I was Godfather - I allow a lot of leeway in where people stand on things, even when I'm in a supposed position of leadership. I suck at persuading people beyond listing what I view as facts/logical standpoints, which is why I wanted you/Caller/Showtime! as Mayor in the first place. I know all three of you have the ability to demand things of town in as much of an aggressive fashion as is necessary.  | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:24 Incognito wrote: Actually... Town played a terrible game and should have lost. Mixture of both really. Mafia got really complacent after Ver and Ace died. Players whom were playing pretty well for them up until then (such as Scamp and Showtime!) just stopped posting. Meanwhile, the town played really poorly too, with the exception of a few players like 0cz3c, MTF, and Dreamflower. At the end it was basically a push on who wanted to lose worse. The timing worked out such that the town won the coinflip. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:47 Ace wrote: L did more work than 99% of the town. Shame he's getting called out like that. While he did, his scenario blowing up in his face and the MBH prot were really bad. Also, he caused WAY too much chaos. But agreed, he is getting a little bit of a bad rap, since he did stuff like helping get Caller killed. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:43 MTF wrote: This is amazing and should not be buried so far away! :D Preserved for all time in the OP! | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
Let's do this! I think every one of us should do it. It's the new trend. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
voting for nemy because he might be a DT - how many times do I have to explain to you guys just NO. Kill the fucker and move on. You left him alive and he still did shit. The other DT was well...yea, just as bad. For the sake of the game pretend there were no detectives. Both of them lived to the end and not 1 Mafia outted when it was staring them in the face. Caller Showtime! Then you had the traitor BC and then you had Ver's mistake which was why both L and I thought he was mafia: his PM to me that saved Amber[light] This should have been the instant lynch of Amber[light]. I called it - Ver's suspicious non-lynch of amber should have been reason to investigate him. No one could investiagte Ver, hence you'd have to check Amber[light] by default. Anyway enough about the shit DTs. Like I said they don't count this game because they were sitting around talking to people in PM land. Which once again brings me to this tip - stop fucking talking to people in PM land if your easily tricked. Seriously, how do you listen to some guy because he's fishing for blue roles? :/ Even worse is the fact that you give up so much information, then get corralled into voting wagons with mafia so it's damn near impossible to tell who's just stupid or who's legit mafia. The only reason I had confirmed BC as mafia(he was traitor) is because he was posting some seriously off the wall shit. I was shocked to see people agreeing with it though, so I had to just bunch them all up in the idiot wagon and block them out. Turns out he seduced a lot of you in PMs so destructively that when he posted in the thread, you couldn't even read past the nonsense. If you want a prime example of how bad this is just go look at the night I got lynched and read up to it - it's pretty damn frightening how you all got duped. Now let me get to this L point, because this is pretty stupid. How can you stand back and say L played terribly when he was one of the few people doing anything worthwhile? While you morons were sitting around twiddling your thumbs in PM land L was trying to make a plan (flawed, but better than nothing), and you all sat back and said "oh no, he is causing chaos". I wasn't lying when I said I understood perfectly what he was trying to do, and if you couldn't well then maybe you should learn how to read objectively. Even worse is that for all that blame you put on others you still can't accept the fact that you fucking sucked ass this game. Technically only about 7, maybe 8 Townies played the game. After Ver died I said ok, this game is over. Mafia have 0 chance of winning if the town just reads back and puts the pieces together. The only reason Ver was labeled mafia was on multiple circumstantial evidences. I was lynched because people got emotional and also because L had a suicidal plan. So once we both die, just put the pieces together. You can either try and follow Ls plan and look at the votes, or check my plan and look at the candidates. Did any of you have a credible plan before that? No, didn't think so. so then L dies and what do you do? Listen to MBH who pops out of no where with some really crazy post about Oz being mafia. ... and then you kill Oz. ... Then only a few people call MBH out on it, but dumb townie logic prevails and you end up almost letting Vivi live also. How the fuck do you get from TWO plans of action to massive finger pointing of everyone else and then have the balls to say the people that actually did work caused trouble? Your a scrub and that's just the way it is. I've come to the conclusion that this was not a Vet game - a lot of players are overestimated. too many people just are not that good, and just don't learn from their mistakes. Next game I guess I'll just have to take it more seriously as I didn't think the town could fuck up after what happened last game and yet people STILL don't go back to read posts and piece stuff together. Good job town, you got a pity win. You can keep it. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 24 2009 16:55 Qatol wrote: While he did, his scenario blowing up in his face and the MBH prot were really bad. Also, he caused WAY too much chaos. But agreed, he is getting a little bit of a bad rap, since he did stuff like helping get Caller killed. I dont think the "chaos" he caused was that bad. Remember, most of the people playing stood by and did jack shit, then when the outcome was bad were like omg L you confused us QQ. :/ If people were reading the game it shouldn't have been THAT bad. Or the least they could have done is offer up some other plan if they think he's a fuckup. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 24 2009 17:08 Ace wrote: I dont think the "chaos" he caused was that bad. Remember, most of the people playing stood by and did jack shit, then when the outcome was bad were like omg L you confused us QQ. :/ If people were reading the game it shouldn't have been THAT bad. Or the least they could have done is offer up some other plan if they think he's a fuckup. My problem with it at least was that it got so dense. I will admit I was merely skimming for a while there right after the BGs got killed (of course not being a player probably didn't help that). I 100% agree that this game was not as high level as it was expected to be. A lot of players were either overestimated or just played really poorly compared to how they usually play. | ||
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