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On April 23 2009 09:35 Incognito wrote:CK: will probably not be wanting to use a RC. He can't use it until day 2, and wont get the results back till the next night: night 3. Which means the info can't be used effectively till the day after. I think the CK will certainly know which way the game is going by this point, so there would be no need to waste all that time if you could be killing people. I think people are going on the wrong track with the CK. We're assuming there IS a separate goal for CK. I'm not so convinced there is, except for possibly a stay alive role. Nonetheless, I will try to present an option. If you look at the first part of the text: Show nested quote +You are a man for hire. You excel in information and death. You work for the best offer, and offer your services to all who can buy it, and your job means everything to you. you see that pretty much this role is related to the job and only the job. I think its far fetched to think that the CK might have to have some kill objectives like kill one mafia and one DT like someone suggested. I feel from this sentence it is more likely that the CK MUST use his power every turn he can. Hence the bolded part. I think this may be right I don't think there's some complimicated goal thing except to stay alive and make contracts to make havoc. I thought the role description was pretty clear until BC posted about some "boooo seeeeecreeeeets" post that could be a joke.
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Hmm, anyone knows when night comes? J/k j/k, don't kill me fishball
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No, that isn't it.
You and I both know there aren't any vote checks this game. I was being sly when I did my ballot.
I don't believe in first day clue analysis. This is based on more than one variable. I will only explain my reasoning in full when I gain trust, so I'll make this brief:
1. Veteran players with good intel = big targets. Either establish a core, or find the Mob. I have reason to believe at least one of us is Mafia.
2. Red herrings aside, this is based on personal behaviour, posting habits and perhaps a little clue interpretation from more than one person.
3. I gave the DTs three big names to check. No need to waste rolechecks. Hence, cut down some variables. I'm not asking for them to check us all per say.
However, if you guys wish to proceed with this we can do the following:
Based on where you (the DT) show up on the signup list, check the player closest to you by rounding up, etc. It's just a suggestion, so take it with a grain of salt.
Targeting inactivities isn't necessarily the best choice either, but yes they do ruin the game.
I'm sure you guys could come up with more ideas/suggestions.
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Well, Pyrr, he wouldn't have simply posted that statement if he meant it as a joke. That would literally be polluting the fairness of the game, as the game leader himself would have been injecting chaos and disarray into our town that, especially with this unresolved and, without his mention, this not-to-be-resolved-soon issue, does not need that lack of organization.
With that said, I've only seen the discussion of the CK, and, to me, his involvement does not seem that monumental. He can't use his role until Day 2, and, in my opinion, he has far more to gain with allying himself with a member of the town than simply with a member of the mafia. That he could go against the town does not need to be stated by almost literally every other person that posts. That's counter-productive. I say this because I've been waiting for someone to elect for mayor, but the only serious campaign which I see is Qatol (and although I feel that he probably is not mafia, I always feel uncomfortable with the fact that he's far-and-away the leader in vote count (in fact unanimous, I think)). That lack of focus has caused me to abstain thus far.
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25. Camlito - he hasn't talked at all. surprising for a veteran player 26. Mynock - he is usually a pretty logical guy who is active 28. Versatile - VERY active during the election in Ace's Mafia World. Logical posts last game. Was pretty active. 36. Rage - come on man. You're TL staff. Gotta be held to a higher standard activity-wise.
Inactivity has been quite shocking this game, as seen by the post count. Your list seems ok, except Rage seems to be a bit of a stretch. From last game, Kennigit(DT), MasterOfChaos(mafia GF), and Rage (townie) were all quiet, so I'm not sure how much of a case we can make here.
Camlito was killed off last game the on night 1. Perhaps leaving him alone to see how long he lasts might be a good idea, since he is a prominent player who wouldn't be able to hide for too long.
I'd like to suggest RebirthOfLeGend as an alternative. He usually likes to cause chaos, and last game, when he didn't really post at all, he turned out to be mafia. Something we might want to try.
Versatile and Mynock seem like decent players from previous games who I wouldn't mind killing based on inactivity. But we really should get some activity here...I think perhaps the no DT check before night 2 is hurting town activity?
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Hey guys really sorry, the past couple of days have been kinda busy as I've been testing a new algo for the trading firm I work for.
Looking at the profiles, I think that the biggest clue in Day 1 has to be the gibberish on the TV. I'm leaning toward people with long, nonsensical profiles. Will do more detailed analysis when work slows down. (I work asia shift so this is worktime for me)
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On April 23 2009 09:28 Qatol wrote:Ok I think I'm going to post my final thoughts on the CK. The town should be willing to work with him. We can even do what we can to make contracts with him without interfering with his victory conditions. However, he needs to contact the town early. If he makes a contract with the mafia, he is essentially in the mafia's pocket without constant medic protection. He then becomes a liability to the town. So the CK basically needs to choose sides before his first hit. Continuing deals might be a problem, but I think it can be figured out decently easily. Other matters to discuss: Barring a HUGE shift in voting at the last second, I will be mayor. As I promised in my earlier post, I will be lynching an inactive that I think shouldn't be inactive. I AM trying to avoid someone who claims they are busy with exams. I kept off people who had even made 1 moderately long post. Here is the list of inactives: Show nested quote + 8.JeeJee 11. RebirthOfLeGend 13. Mandalor 15. nemY 19. Hyperbola 25. Camlito 26. Mynock 28. Versatile 29. 3 Lions 31. fusionsdf 32. truthbringer 35. Quickstriker 36. Rage 37. Motbob 39. Blue_Arrow 40. Inertinept 41. 0cz3c 43. Amber[light] 45. Aznvaliance 46. Laxercannon 48. ILoveKtf 49. T_co 50. scamp 51. goodwill 52. CompX 53. coolcrimefighter 54. YDG 56. Vivi57
List of those people who did not post in day 1 thread, just voted for mayor: Show nested quote + 31. fusionsdf 32. truthbringer 35. Quickstriker - trolled the voting thread 46. Laxercannon 49. T_co 50. scamp 51. goodwill 53. coolcrimefighter 54. YDG
List of people with 1 one-liner post, but posted SOMETHING: Show nested quote + 27. LordWeird - "Let the wild accusations begin!" and then a crazy accusation post 44. Zapling - "vote me for mayor wooo ill be a good one" 55. Mista - “Still taking my own sweet time ..”
List of people I consider to be exceptions due to school: Show nested quote + 7.Fishball - “I would not have access to TL from Thursday to Sunday (Back on Sunday).” 10. Ver - "Due to an intense finals period I won't be on until a brief bit friday, and then I will probably go do research and will be tied up until mon/tues." 24. Mikeymoo - "mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry" (monoxide posted this) 47. Monoxide - “mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry”
Names that stand out to me from the list: 25. Camlito - he hasn't talked at all. surprising for a veteran player 26. Mynock - he is usually a pretty logical guy who is active 28. Versatile - VERY active during the election in Ace's Mafia World. Logical posts last game. Was pretty active. 36. Rage - come on man. You're TL staff. Gotta be held to a higher standard activity-wise. If anyone has a better idea of who I should be targeting, please post it in the thread or PM me. Remember, the theory is that we should be targeting people who are uncharacteristically silent.
Alright everyone and Qatol, I really didn't want to speak up yet nor would I actually do anything right now seeing how I enjoy my quiet and peaceful life in TL, in this game, and in RL, but enough is ENOUGH! First off, yes this is my first post in this thread (second if you count the factor that on this very same thread I made a post that I wanted to join this game). And I can understand the fact that you would consider me as inactive since I was actually busy enjoying my outside life trying to learn and practice golf, preparing for my college transfer, and just doing my own business HOWEVER when everyone starts bashing at me for such a pointless idiotic stupid reason, that's where I decide to come out in the open and talk about it.
"...trolled the voting thread"
now how the hell did I troll in that thread? I was minding my own business of voting someone who I wanted to give my opinion of and we have the next post commenting and cricitizing my post in which I felt a little bit offended by that post. So what's the next thing that should have been done? Well I comment him back to stfu about it and tell him he's an idiot for posting something like that... after that, I suppose I somehow got my name out there and got noticed by ppl (and you) saying oh how I'm trolling just b/c I expressed my opinion and told Caller to shut up about it. Now I see how obviously you join in and tell everyone away I'm a troller?
Ok, that's that, I'm done commenting about how other ppl think about me so I'll leave it here unless someone else decides to offend me again for w/e reason they think it's necessary....
Now I suppose my next question is, does my post just now became a whole new target of you and your team to look that, if I haven't been one already for making a post that didn't really matter much??
One last thing I like to say is I notice how a lot of ppl just voted Qatol for mayor without saying much as if it was some sort of a spam-ish thing.... sure, some ppl gave input and output but it's just that... I find it a little suspcious to me, probably b/c this is my first time in this game....
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On April 23 2009 09:09 LucasWoJ wrote: ... we can't analyze behavioral patterns. If you were intending to do that, it'd be day 15 or so before any pattern could be noticibly distinguished.
Are you insane!? It doesn't take that long to start analyzing behavior patterns. Behavior analysis was far and away more helpful than clue analysis in the last game which didn't even get halfway to Day 15.
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On April 23 2009 10:23 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 09:09 LucasWoJ wrote: ... we can't analyze behavioral patterns. If you were intending to do that, it'd be day 15 or so before any pattern could be noticibly distinguished.
Are you insane!? It doesn't take that long to start analyzing behavior patterns. Behavior analysis was far and away more helpful than clue analysis in the last game which didn't even get halfway to Day 15.
I think mafia will be smarter about that this game. Better to use other tactics, but most importantly don't let mafia know how (the ranking mechanism) town "core" comes to lynch decisions.
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@Showtime! with all the efforts to pre-sign up veterans with a little bit loose definition of veteran i would be surprised if fewer than 2 were really good players. I'm sure mafia will be better than last game.
as for your plan I don't even understand what it is and you've said yourself you're not even ready to present all the arguments for it so I don't know whether to support it or argue against it or what. qatol's plan of clue checks makes more sense at this point then potentially having out DTs overlap role checks early which could be a mistake (or goal) of your plan. I certainly can't see why we should direct the DTs to use role checks this early until you explain what they are supposed to do with their results.
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On April 23 2009 10:23 semioldguy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 09:09 LucasWoJ wrote: ... we can't analyze behavioral patterns. If you were intending to do that, it'd be day 15 or so before any pattern could be noticibly distinguished.
Are you insane!? It doesn't take that long to start analyzing behavior patterns. Behavior analysis was far and away more helpful than clue analysis in the last game which didn't even get halfway to Day 15.
mmmm, you took my post completely out of context, but I guess I was not clear.
I was referring to the written clues. Every mafioso has his own behavior which one can analyze IN THE CLUES. If Bloodycobbler is to continue doing what I think he's doing and there are roughly 1 mafia: 4 townie, it would be like day 6 before he's described all of the mafia in THE CLUES. Because it's so difficult to determine whether something is a red herring or an actual clue, it would take a couple clue posts before we could be certain of our characterization.
And yeah, I was part of that game. Behavioral analysis was what won that game for us. But that's not the type of behavioral analysis I'm referring to. It's analyzing the characters in the clue day posts.
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On April 23 2009 10:26 t_co wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 10:23 semioldguy wrote:On April 23 2009 09:09 LucasWoJ wrote: ... we can't analyze behavioral patterns. If you were intending to do that, it'd be day 15 or so before any pattern could be noticibly distinguished.
Are you insane!? It doesn't take that long to start analyzing behavior patterns. Behavior analysis was far and away more helpful than clue analysis in the last game which didn't even get halfway to Day 15. I think mafia will be smarter about that this game. Better to use other tactics, but most importantly don't let mafia know how (the ranking mechanism) town "core" comes to lynch decisions. t_co's sort of right, now that we're posting "this is why so and so is suspicious" the mafia know how to act to look good. Showtime! probably has the right idea hiding back some rationale.
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On April 23 2009 10:39 LucasWoJ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 10:23 semioldguy wrote:On April 23 2009 09:09 LucasWoJ wrote: ... we can't analyze behavioral patterns. If you were intending to do that, it'd be day 15 or so before any pattern could be noticibly distinguished.
Are you insane!? It doesn't take that long to start analyzing behavior patterns. Behavior analysis was far and away more helpful than clue analysis in the last game which didn't even get halfway to Day 15. mmmm, you took my post completely out of context, but I guess I was not clear. I was referring to the written clues. Every mafioso has his own behavior which one can analyze IN THE CLUES. If Bloodycobbler is to continue doing what I think he's doing and there are roughly 1 mafia: 4 townie, it would be like day 6 before he's described all of the mafia in THE CLUES. Because it's so difficult to determine whether something is a red herring or an actual clue, it would take a couple clue posts before we could be certain of our characterization. And yeah, I was part of that game. Behavioral analysis was what won that game for us. But that's not the type of behavioral analysis I'm referring to. It's analyzing the characters in the clue day posts. OOohhhh... I see. That makes more sense.
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well I've recently gotten addicted to altitude so thats why I've been inactive ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif)
to make myself unshady here are some infoz about me
I am a D protoss my name is coolcrimefighter I am not shady
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On April 23 2009 10:39 LucasWoJ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 10:23 semioldguy wrote:On April 23 2009 09:09 LucasWoJ wrote: ... we can't analyze behavioral patterns. If you were intending to do that, it'd be day 15 or so before any pattern could be noticibly distinguished.
Are you insane!? It doesn't take that long to start analyzing behavior patterns. Behavior analysis was far and away more helpful than clue analysis in the last game which didn't even get halfway to Day 15. mmmm, you took my post completely out of context, but I guess I was not clear. I was referring to the written clues. Every mafioso has his own behavior which one can analyze IN THE CLUES. If Bloodycobbler is to continue doing what I think he's doing and there are roughly 1 mafia: 4 townie, it would be like day 6 before he's described all of the mafia in THE CLUES. Because it's so difficult to determine whether something is a red herring or an actual clue, it would take a couple clue posts before we could be certain of our characterization. And yeah, I was part of that game. Behavioral analysis was what won that game for us. But that's not the type of behavioral analysis I'm referring to. It's analyzing the characters in the clue day posts.
Well, I dont really think there is any specific "behavior" that is tied to each mafia within the clues. While sometimes this does have something to do with it, most of those times that behavior is tied to a general theme related to the person's name/profile/whatever. Its not directly related to the actual behavior of the players.
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On April 23 2009 10:53 coolcrimefighter wrote:well I've recently gotten addicted to altitude so thats why I've been inactive ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) to make myself unshady here are some infoz about me I am a D protoss my name is coolcrimefighter I am not shady
Truly, all suspicion of you being shady is washed away by this stellar showing of evididence of you being unshady.
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On April 23 2009 11:20 BWdero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 10:53 coolcrimefighter wrote:well I've recently gotten addicted to altitude so thats why I've been inactive ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) to make myself unshady here are some infoz about me I am a D protoss my name is coolcrimefighter I am not shady Truly, all suspicion of you being shady is washed away by this stellar showing of evididence of you being unshady. indeed
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On April 23 2009 11:28 coolcrimefighter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 11:20 BWdero wrote:On April 23 2009 10:53 coolcrimefighter wrote:well I've recently gotten addicted to altitude so thats why I've been inactive ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif) to make myself unshady here are some infoz about me I am a D protoss my name is coolcrimefighter I am not shady Truly, all suspicion of you being shady is washed away by this stellar showing of evididence of you being unshady. indeed Do you WANT me to lynch you or something? Why the heck would you make a post like that?
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On April 23 2009 10:17 QuickStriker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 09:28 Qatol wrote:Ok I think I'm going to post my final thoughts on the CK. The town should be willing to work with him. We can even do what we can to make contracts with him without interfering with his victory conditions. However, he needs to contact the town early. If he makes a contract with the mafia, he is essentially in the mafia's pocket without constant medic protection. He then becomes a liability to the town. So the CK basically needs to choose sides before his first hit. Continuing deals might be a problem, but I think it can be figured out decently easily. Other matters to discuss: Barring a HUGE shift in voting at the last second, I will be mayor. As I promised in my earlier post, I will be lynching an inactive that I think shouldn't be inactive. I AM trying to avoid someone who claims they are busy with exams. I kept off people who had even made 1 moderately long post. Here is the list of inactives: 8.JeeJee 11. RebirthOfLeGend 13. Mandalor 15. nemY 19. Hyperbola 25. Camlito 26. Mynock 28. Versatile 29. 3 Lions 31. fusionsdf 32. truthbringer 35. Quickstriker 36. Rage 37. Motbob 39. Blue_Arrow 40. Inertinept 41. 0cz3c 43. Amber[light] 45. Aznvaliance 46. Laxercannon 48. ILoveKtf 49. T_co 50. scamp 51. goodwill 52. CompX 53. coolcrimefighter 54. YDG 56. Vivi57
List of those people who did not post in day 1 thread, just voted for mayor: 31. fusionsdf 32. truthbringer 35. Quickstriker - trolled the voting thread 46. Laxercannon 49. T_co 50. scamp 51. goodwill 53. coolcrimefighter 54. YDG
List of people with 1 one-liner post, but posted SOMETHING: 27. LordWeird - "Let the wild accusations begin!" and then a crazy accusation post 44. Zapling - "vote me for mayor wooo ill be a good one" 55. Mista - “Still taking my own sweet time ..”
List of people I consider to be exceptions due to school: 7.Fishball - “I would not have access to TL from Thursday to Sunday (Back on Sunday).” 10. Ver - "Due to an intense finals period I won't be on until a brief bit friday, and then I will probably go do research and will be tied up until mon/tues." 24. Mikeymoo - "mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry" (monoxide posted this) 47. Monoxide - “mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry”
Names that stand out to me from the list: 25. Camlito - he hasn't talked at all. surprising for a veteran player 26. Mynock - he is usually a pretty logical guy who is active 28. Versatile - VERY active during the election in Ace's Mafia World. Logical posts last game. Was pretty active. 36. Rage - come on man. You're TL staff. Gotta be held to a higher standard activity-wise. If anyone has a better idea of who I should be targeting, please post it in the thread or PM me. Remember, the theory is that we should be targeting people who are uncharacteristically silent. Alright everyone and Qatol, I really didn't want to speak up yet nor would I actually do anything right now seeing how I enjoy my quiet and peaceful life in TL, in this game, and in RL, but enough is ENOUGH! First off, yes this is my first post in this thread (second if you count the factor that on this very same thread I made a post that I wanted to join this game). And I can understand the fact that you would consider me as inactive since I was actually busy enjoying my outside life trying to learn and practice golf, preparing for my college transfer, and just doing my own business HOWEVER when everyone starts bashing at me for such a pointless idiotic stupid reason, that's where I decide to come out in the open and talk about it. "...trolled the voting thread" now how the hell did I troll in that thread? I was minding my own business of voting someone who I wanted to give my opinion of and we have the next post commenting and cricitizing my post in which I felt a little bit offended by that post. So what's the next thing that should have been done? Well I comment him back to stfu about it and tell him he's an idiot for posting something like that... after that, I suppose I somehow got my name out there and got noticed by ppl (and you) saying oh how I'm trolling just b/c I expressed my opinion and told Caller to shut up about it. Now I see how obviously you join in and tell everyone away I'm a troller?
Ok, that's that, I'm done commenting about how other ppl think about me so I'll leave it here unless someone else decides to offend me again for w/e reason they think it's necessary.... Now I suppose my next question is, does my post just now became a whole new target of you and your team to look that, if I haven't been one already for making a post that didn't really matter much?? One last thing I like to say is I notice how a lot of ppl just voted Qatol for mayor without saying much as if it was some sort of a spam-ish thing.... sure, some ppl gave input and output but it's just that... I find it a little suspcious to me, probably b/c this is my first time in this game.... Holy shit batman. I just gave you the "80% mafia chance" prize that malongo created last game.
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On April 23 2009 11:56 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 10:17 QuickStriker wrote:On April 23 2009 09:28 Qatol wrote:Ok I think I'm going to post my final thoughts on the CK. The town should be willing to work with him. We can even do what we can to make contracts with him without interfering with his victory conditions. However, he needs to contact the town early. If he makes a contract with the mafia, he is essentially in the mafia's pocket without constant medic protection. He then becomes a liability to the town. So the CK basically needs to choose sides before his first hit. Continuing deals might be a problem, but I think it can be figured out decently easily. Other matters to discuss: Barring a HUGE shift in voting at the last second, I will be mayor. As I promised in my earlier post, I will be lynching an inactive that I think shouldn't be inactive. I AM trying to avoid someone who claims they are busy with exams. I kept off people who had even made 1 moderately long post. Here is the list of inactives: 8.JeeJee 11. RebirthOfLeGend 13. Mandalor 15. nemY 19. Hyperbola 25. Camlito 26. Mynock 28. Versatile 29. 3 Lions 31. fusionsdf 32. truthbringer 35. Quickstriker 36. Rage 37. Motbob 39. Blue_Arrow 40. Inertinept 41. 0cz3c 43. Amber[light] 45. Aznvaliance 46. Laxercannon 48. ILoveKtf 49. T_co 50. scamp 51. goodwill 52. CompX 53. coolcrimefighter 54. YDG 56. Vivi57
List of those people who did not post in day 1 thread, just voted for mayor: 31. fusionsdf 32. truthbringer 35. Quickstriker - trolled the voting thread 46. Laxercannon 49. T_co 50. scamp 51. goodwill 53. coolcrimefighter 54. YDG
List of people with 1 one-liner post, but posted SOMETHING: 27. LordWeird - "Let the wild accusations begin!" and then a crazy accusation post 44. Zapling - "vote me for mayor wooo ill be a good one" 55. Mista - “Still taking my own sweet time ..”
List of people I consider to be exceptions due to school: 7.Fishball - “I would not have access to TL from Thursday to Sunday (Back on Sunday).” 10. Ver - "Due to an intense finals period I won't be on until a brief bit friday, and then I will probably go do research and will be tied up until mon/tues." 24. Mikeymoo - "mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry" (monoxide posted this) 47. Monoxide - “mikeymoo and I are going to be inactive for about 24 hours due to an upcoming final. Sorry”
Names that stand out to me from the list: 25. Camlito - he hasn't talked at all. surprising for a veteran player 26. Mynock - he is usually a pretty logical guy who is active 28. Versatile - VERY active during the election in Ace's Mafia World. Logical posts last game. Was pretty active. 36. Rage - come on man. You're TL staff. Gotta be held to a higher standard activity-wise. If anyone has a better idea of who I should be targeting, please post it in the thread or PM me. Remember, the theory is that we should be targeting people who are uncharacteristically silent. Alright everyone and Qatol, I really didn't want to speak up yet nor would I actually do anything right now seeing how I enjoy my quiet and peaceful life in TL, in this game, and in RL, but enough is ENOUGH! First off, yes this is my first post in this thread (second if you count the factor that on this very same thread I made a post that I wanted to join this game). And I can understand the fact that you would consider me as inactive since I was actually busy enjoying my outside life trying to learn and practice golf, preparing for my college transfer, and just doing my own business HOWEVER when everyone starts bashing at me for such a pointless idiotic stupid reason, that's where I decide to come out in the open and talk about it. "...trolled the voting thread" now how the hell did I troll in that thread? I was minding my own business of voting someone who I wanted to give my opinion of and we have the next post commenting and cricitizing my post in which I felt a little bit offended by that post. So what's the next thing that should have been done? Well I comment him back to stfu about it and tell him he's an idiot for posting something like that... after that, I suppose I somehow got my name out there and got noticed by ppl (and you) saying oh how I'm trolling just b/c I expressed my opinion and told Caller to shut up about it. Now I see how obviously you join in and tell everyone away I'm a troller?
Ok, that's that, I'm done commenting about how other ppl think about me so I'll leave it here unless someone else decides to offend me again for w/e reason they think it's necessary.... Now I suppose my next question is, does my post just now became a whole new target of you and your team to look that, if I haven't been one already for making a post that didn't really matter much?? One last thing I like to say is I notice how a lot of ppl just voted Qatol for mayor without saying much as if it was some sort of a spam-ish thing.... sure, some ppl gave input and output but it's just that... I find it a little suspcious to me, probably b/c this is my first time in this game.... Holy shit batman. I just gave you the "80% mafia chance" prize that malongo created last game.
Yeah, I can see where you are coming from. He seemed to over react a bit to much, could of just posted and explained himself calmly lol. Even others who are inactive come back saying something to do with school, but not in such a way as he did.
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