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Pyrrhuloxia
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
I still think that if there are DT's out there that they should NOT Role claim to me yet regardless. It should become apparent whether this is all true or not before very long. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:10 semioldguy wrote: Obviously the worst case scenario here is that if I am guilty, as it could potentially screw over ALL of the town's DT's. I still think that if there are DT's out there that they should NOT Role claim to me yet regardless. It should become apparent whether this is all true or not before very long. How does it become apparent without DTs outing themselves to you or publicly? | ||
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
Personally, I am very suspicious of all this. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On March 24 2009 04:38 redtooth wrote: I've been out for a while but I'm glad to come back to good news. Now that mandalor's flipped red (and mafia KP is lowered) I say we should go ahead and cluecheck Rice. Rolecheck priorities should go to Ace and BC. Also, Ace is protected tonight because of Incarceration right? To Chuiu and special role players (including mafia): Let's hurry up and get the next morning up. To Medics: I trust that you guys will make the right decisions To fusiondf: Are you going to actively maintain that blog? You should put it on your profile or something because its drowned among the billion other blogs in TL. yep. I try and read through the thread, but if anyone wants something to be included in the blog, its best to PM me, since its easiest to add, it I can add it pretty quickly since I'll see it soon after you post and it won't get drowned in a sea of long posts that don't say anything. | ||
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
(1) I already know the identity of two Detectives, neither of which I should have known about in my opinion. In this case there is only one more Detective out there. Mafia have much less to gain from this as by not revealing this information I can instead try to misguide the two I do know about in my direction of their actions and mafia kills them when they are of no more use. There is little for mafia to gain in this scenario if only one other Detective is out, in my opinion that would not be worth the risk to essentially give myself up for a single Detective. (2) I completely made everything up. This means there are three Detectives out there (none of which whom I know about). In this situation mafia may stand to gain intel of all three Detectives. There is more to still be gained by mafia from this scenario, which is why if the DT's need to come out, they shouldn't come out to me (though we will have to find someone else to trust... I should also not decide that person) Neither of these are very likely in my opinion though. I am currently quite suspicious of the other two Detectives. | ||
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Scooter
United States747 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
If we value DTs to mafia 1 to 1, then after 4 sog lead lynches, it might be suitable for the DTs to roleclaim to sog. The reasoning is, even if it was a mafia ploy, they screwed up and came out behind anyways, and if it isn't a ploy then we come out even further ahead. Of course you have to worry about how many mafia a dt is worth, and how directly sog contributed to the lynch, so its fairly theoretical sog: It seems equally likely (assuming your innocence) that the roleclaiming dt is a dt or mafia. I would suggest coming up with a way to test, and not ignoring the roleclaimed completely. If you can construct a situation where there is a 1-1 trade of townie for mafia, its in town's interest to do so | ||
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
EDIT: And that was yesterday. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:42 semioldguy wrote: I definitely want to hear from others how we should handle this as a town. I think we should get drunk, but admittedly I have not been following this game as much as I should be. I'll try to start picking it up though For now I'll leave my suspicions to myself, simply because... they're based on my opinion and have no real backing what so ever. | ||
Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:42 semioldguy wrote: I definitely want to hear from others how we should handle this as a town. I'm imagining it now, the ultimate mafia ploy. SoG (godfather) says he's a DT, lynches a mafia for us, then these other 'dts' roleclaim to him (mafia) and he announces in the thread that he has now been contacted by the other two dts and that if there are any dts out there that he hasn't been in contact with regarding their dt status, they might have some mafia. Three real dts roleclaim to SoG and the next night we have 3 dead dts. It's possible, I think also that a godfather tradeoff for 3 dts is probably worth it from the mafia perspective. I'm not saying SoG is godfather, more that in the interests of the town, I think the dts shouldn't be roleclaiming to anyone quite just yet. As for the clues to check from day 1 (I realise I'm a bit late in the night now, but just in case you haven't checked yet and are still unsure), I think any of the three dreamflower listed would be good ones to try and pin on a player. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 24 2009 09:00 Bockit wrote: I'm imagining it now, the ultimate mafia ploy. SoG (godfather) says he's a DT, lynches a mafia for us, then these other 'dts' roleclaim to him (mafia) and he announces in the thread that he has now been contacted by the other two dts and that if there are any dts out there that he hasn't been in contact with regarding their dt status, they might have some mafia. Three real dts roleclaim to SoG and the next night we have 3 dead dts. It's possible, I think also that a godfather tradeoff for 3 dts is probably worth it from the mafia perspective. I'm not saying SoG is godfather, more that in the interests of the town, I think the dts shouldn't be roleclaiming to anyone quite just yet. As for the clues to check from day 1 (I realise I'm a bit late in the night now, but just in case you haven't checked yet and are still unsure), I think any of the three dreamflower listed would be good ones to try and pin on a player. SoG doesn't even have to be godfather because all he can be rolechecked to is Mayor. | ||
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
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Bockit
Sydney2287 Posts
On March 24 2009 09:02 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: SoG doesn't even have to be godfather because all he can be rolechecked to is Mayor. I forgot about that, an even better tradeoff then. Still conjecture, but enough reason for dts *not* to roleclaim to SoG. | ||
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
Which was one of the clues she mentioned. | ||
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JL13
United States1384 Posts
If #3 comes up DT, we have #2 confirmed DT. If #3 comes up anything besides DT, #2 is mafia This is a massive loss. I'm not sure if it's in the town's best interest to go this path. Town trades 1 DT (#3) for a confirmed DT (#2), or 1 town role (#3) for a confirmed mafia (#2). #3 DT will post publicly everything he knows/has done before he gets lynched. I'd figure to throw this out there if we have no other way of dealing with this problem. I'll figure something else out if possible, but since there is very little time before night ends, I thought I should post this immediately. Btw, if #3 has NOT used a night action, I think I have a plan that will net the town either 3 confirmed DTs or 2 confirmed mafia, not sure, still working out its logic. | ||
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