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JL13
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JL13
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Malongo
Chile3479 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:42 semioldguy wrote: I definitely want to hear from others how we should handle this as a town. Actually we cant do too much until next day. Medics should be catching hits this night and the rest of the blues should refrain to roleclaim you. Dts calling cluechecks and rolechecks and, since the town is starting to get silent slowly, id call for double lynchs everyday. And please Dts cluecheck small parts of the text, normally the clues are not easy but simple in terms or amount of words. Im sure there are clues as short as a one word, if i could suggest something id start doing cluechecks on words and themes repeated over the days (ex one by one). I know theres a chance i cant survive the night so im going to tell id vote to lynch motbob and tricode. Both are suspicious to me, and both can be linked by clues. | ||
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Chuiu
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Pyrrhuloxia
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 24 2009 09:36 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: I'd like to hear BC explain what he's going to do with the jail tomorrow. I guess maybe he shouldn't tell us for whatever reason but if so he could explain that. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
I think we just have to trust him | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 24 2009 09:40 fusionsdf wrote: If he tells us, then mafia just won't target that person. If he gives us hints, then it just makes it easier for mafia too. I think we just have to trust him That doesn't make sense, I thought he sends it in one night, and then that person is incarcerated the next day and night. So the incarcerated person wouldn't be invulnerable that night but the mafia instead might target that person before they could be incarcerated. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
You are the primary elected role of the game. You get to, four times during the game, incarcerate a player for one day. You must PM me if you want to incarcerate a player and it will happen the next day. so I don't really get what you are saying... mafia send in their hits before night too right? The key thing is that BC shouldnt say who he will jail, or give any hints until we can be sure that mafia have sent in all their hints. ideally, from an anti-mafia standpoint, it would be best if they didn't know who was in jail if anyone, but I dont think thats practical from a gameplay standpoint | ||
semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
On March 24 2009 09:31 malongo wrote: Actually we cant do too much until next day. Medics should be catching hits this night and the rest of the blues should refrain to roleclaim you. Role-claiming should not happen through me. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
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MrBabyHands
United States72 Posts
I present, MrBabyHands's Furious Five: humbug :i think BC first made the connection with a "humbug" being defined as a deceiver/deception. also scrooge = stingy, miser, collector, etc. I think that was very good clue analysis and i think we'd be hard pressed to find a better match. scooter : the biker clue. it just really sticks out to me. if you've ever had one of those gut feelings that you feel really strongly about. well, this is one for me. tricode : malongo noticed the repeating theme of "3" in the clues. tricode also made a suspicious post (that malongo also noticed). but his response to the idea that he might be a suspect is what convinced me... see below + Show Spoiler + I asked tricode what he thought about malongo bringing up his name as a suspect. this was his response: On March 22 2009 03:25 Tricode wrote: I don't know what to say really. I was just being honest about everything. I don't post because I would just read and go on AIM and talk to cob. Since I haven't been able to talk to him for the last two days. I was hoping you guys would help me. I didn't know when to vote until i saw others voting. I knew there was a clue in the morning and I am enjoying the game. Plus everyone said morning should be coming soon or something to that extent and it seemed like it was taking to long. So i was honestly confused. I am not certain about the clues to much. I don't want to ruin my first game and have people getting mad at me for pointing fingers at people who are innocent and get them killed though I doubt people would listen to me. If this helps in my defense, Cob knows I am new at this game and can vouch for my claims about being new and my behavior. But I will admit you are kinda half right about me posting it so I don't look inactive (mind you I still posted cause I wanted answers and help). I want my first game to be as fun as I can make it. I am having fun reading what you guys are saying. I do wish I can help more, but until I learn this game a bit better and understand how the clues are presented, I don't want to be completely inactive where I get blamed like this, but I don't know how I can contribute. I'm sorry about that. the ol "puppy dog eyes" technique "i'm new" "i was hoping someone could help me" "its my first time, i just want to have fun" "i dont want people to be mad at me" this could verywell be his first time. but that doesnt mean he's not red. i think he presented too many explanations and they were all around a common theme (first timer, new to the game, dont wanna mess up, etc). People do this when they have something to hide. I feel like most innocent new players are more likely to downplay their inexperience so as not to appear as a burden. Tricode did the opposite. I also feel like he's overcompensating for his inactivity, again posting lots of extraneous information (who is cob anyway) and appealing to our emotions he offers a humble apology at the end. His only defense was "i'm new. sorry about that." And he didnt address the clues at all, even tho they were a main part in his suspicion. if i wasnt sure he was mafia before, i am certainly more convinced now. MoC: this suspicion is mostly from the dark archon = bad fighter clue that someone else picked up on. But there are other things that got my attention. His posts dont really seem to add any real value. like they are "empty" posts in which he either agrees or disagrees with someone or is glaringly neutral-- this is indicative of a mafia trying to hide. Also, in the Day 1, the mafia member who "grabbed the gun" with his hands still behind his head. this could indicate psychic abilities (using the mind to grab the gun. Dark Archons are use mind powers). I think these two clues point to the same person. And I think that person is MoC LeperKhan: look at this clue When finally he saw there was nothing blocking the far door between him and his assailant he decided to try his luck and shove through the man. i cant believe i missed this at first. The keyword here is "LUCK." and he's easy to shove too-- like a little person***. AND he was taunting (as leprechauns are known to do). clearly a "leprechaun" is a good fit. or in our case... a "LeperKhan" ***Disclaimer: MrBabyHands does NOT condone the shoving of little people and has only done so under the most dire of circumstances. (edited for a few typos) | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On March 24 2009 09:03 Bockit wrote: Also, where is Ace? He's in the lockup but that doesn't stop him being able to speak. And being in lockup, he can't be killed tonight, which means it was his chance to go nuts with clue/behaviour/plans and be safe for another night. I've been watching the game. Honestly I don't really need to do much right now, the town seems to be doing okay  | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
The only other thing I could see for this is Teejing. For some reason that guy is suspicious to me and so I looked for clues for him and he's got nothing in his profile. I know it's not really the right way to go about it (person -> clue) but I tried to think of what a clue might look like for each of the people with no profiles and only names and for Teejing, all I can find about his name is that it seems to be Malaysian. So maybe the other weird shit that he couldn't make out in the biker's tattoos was something in an east asian language like Malay since they tend to be common tattoo subjects of the type that are harder to make out. Edit: Malaysian is not a language, Malay is. | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
On March 24 2009 10:08 Ace wrote: I've been watching the game. Honestly I don't really need to do much right now, the town seems to be doing okay Oh ho ho. A free rider eh? | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On March 24 2009 10:06 MrBabyHands wrote: Based on the last day's clues (and behavior for some) I have 5 top mafia suspects. Just in case i dont survive the night, let me show you thems. I present, MrBabyHands's Furious Five: humbug :i think BC first made the connection with a "humbug" being defined as a deceiver/deception. also scrooge = stingy, miser, collector, etc. I think that was very good clue analysis and i think we'd be hard pressed to find a better match. scooter : the biker clue. it just really sticks out to me. if you've ever had one of those gut feelings that you feel really strongly about. well, this is one for me. tricode : malongo noticed the repeating theme of "3" in the clues. tricode also made a suspicious post (that malongo also noticed). but his response to the idea that he might be a suspect is what convinced me... see below + Show Spoiler + I asked tricode what he thought about malongo bringing up his name as a suspect. this was his response: On March 22 2009 03:25 Tricode wrote: I don't know what to say really. I was just being honest about everything. I don't post because I would just read and go on AIM and talk to cob. Since I haven't been able to talk to him for the last two days. I was hoping you guys would help me. I didn't know when to vote until i saw others voting. I knew there was a clue in the morning and I am enjoying the game. Plus everyone said morning should be coming soon or something to that extent and it seemed like it was taking to long. So i was honestly confused. I am not certain about the clues to much. I don't want to ruin my first game and have people getting mad at me for pointing fingers at people who are innocent and get them killed though I doubt people would listen to me. If this helps in my defense, Cob knows I am new at this game and can vouch for my claims about being new and my behavior. But I will admit you are kinda half right about me posting it so I don't look inactive (mind you I still posted cause I wanted answers and help). I want my first game to be as fun as I can make it. I am having fun reading what you guys are saying. I do wish I can help more, but until I learn this game a bit better and understand how the clues are presented, I don't want to be completely inactive where I get blamed like this, but I don't know how I can contribute. I'm sorry about that. the ol "puppy dog eyes" technique "i'm new" "i was hoping someone could help me" "its my first time, i just want to have fun" "i dont want people to be mad at me" this could verywell be his first time. but that doesnt mean he's not red. i think he presented too many explanations and they were all around a common theme (first timer, new to the game, dont wanna mess up, etc). People do this when they have something to hide. I feel like most innocent new players are more likely to downplay their inexperience so as not to appear as a burden. Tricode did the opposite. I also feel like he's overcompensating for his inactivity, again posting lots of extraneous information (who is cob anyway) and appealing to our emotions he offers a humble apology at the end. His only defense was "i'm new. sorry about that." And he didnt address the clues at all, even tho they were a main part in his suspicion. if i wasnt sure he was mafia before, i am certainly more convinced now. MoC: this suspicion is mostly from the dark archon = bad fighter clue that someone else picked up on. But there are other things that got my attention. His posts dont really seem to add any real value. like they are "empty" posts in which he either agrees or disagrees with someone or is glaringly neutral-- this is indicative of a mafia trying to hide. Also, in the Day 1, the mafia member who "grabbed the gun" with his hands still behind his head. this could indicate psychic abilities (using the mind to grab the gun. Dark Archons are use mind powers). I think these two clues point to the same person. And I think that person is MoC LeperKhan: look at this clue i cant believe i missed this at first. The keyword here is "LUCK." and he's easy to shove too-- like a little person. AND he was taunting (as leprechauns are known to do). clearly a "leprechaun" is a good fit. or in our case... a "LeperKhan" (edited for a few typos) i like | ||
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
"Here is the definition of Humbug 1. Something intended to deceive; a hoax or fraud. 2. A person who claims to be other than what he or she is; an impostor. 3. Nonsense; rubbish. 4. Pretense; deception." Rubbish = what was in his pocket | ||
mikeymoo
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Scara’s killer taunted him, and let him run to a door, open it wide and die. I currently believe that this mafia is the one and only Kennigit. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Kennigit kennigits profile. In it his quote is that he loves catching people in the act, that’s why he whips doors open. In this case he caught scara in the act of fleeing for his life, by having a door whipped wide open and being blown to pieces. As for the taunting, that image has LOL typed over and over before a an annoying image of an asian kid waving and winking. Which could be a taunt. Kennigit and MoC are both blue names that haven't contributed much to the town this game even though they are pretty smart peeps... I think with so many good leads maybe we should go after the best players first as long as they aren't doing anything for the town? | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On March 24 2009 08:42 semioldguy wrote: I definitely want to hear from others how we should handle this as a town. Mandalor's lynch doesn't conclusively prove you as innocent, but it is a strong argument. It is possible that you would be mafia, seeing Mandalor's lynch inevitable, and pose as dt to seal the deal on his lynch and gain you trust for the town, even though doing so loses KP. If you were mafia you also would not pretend to claim his innocence because that would have been easily counter checked by a real DT. So basically your innocence comes into question if a large quantity of blues start mysteriously dying. My gut feeling is that you are telling the truth. The innocence of the other two detective can be ascertained when: 1.we see who is killed at night 2. what their clue/rolechecks come back as. if they lie, something will eventually turn up that exposes them, either from deaths or further rolecheck. It is then your job to expose this... i think. | ||
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