EPTI'm willing to bet that about 75% of what Caller editted is some sort of a clue, and the rest are found in the original lyrics.
I hope we get a new song each time.
TL Mafia V: The Wrath of KHAAAAAANN
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LucasWoJ
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I'm willing to bet that about 75% of what Caller editted is some sort of a clue, and the rest are found in the original lyrics. I hope we get a new song each time. | ||
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However, if you lynch the accuser first you ALWAYS know what the accused role is. ALWAYS. This is crucial. False. RoL gets lynched first. You could still have been green, blue or red. False. | ||
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On December 31 2008 07:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Ace its the information that is gathered from it, In the case of the insane DT you gain more information from lynching the accused than the accuser, that is clear as day, and the fact you dont see it, or are refusing to a) makes you the VI or b) mafia as well. That's assuming you're a detective in the first place though. | ||
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On December 31 2008 09:20 AttackZerg wrote: + Show Spoiler + From: LucasWoJ Subject: Re: mafia Date: 12/31/08 09:19 LOL at your post in every way. Mafia. You don't have to "watch". I'm watching you. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I don't have to watch shit. It was a smart idea to check mafia from previous games. Also by asking it that way, you are indirectly implying that you are not mafia which I have good cause to doubt. Don't over read into things, now I'm at least sure you can't that smart. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: How does that make me a smart player? Watch you answer. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Sorry I didn't get mafia three times in a row. Thank god! ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Give me the list Caller gave you. I take it back he is a moron. The messages appear First- Last - Last-First. None of this is suspicious but I should respond to it nevertheless. I'm in contact with a bunch of people via PM and I'm taking note of their answers (or lack of) to see if there's a sort pattern (or once again, lack of) Based on how the person we lynch today turns out, I'll know much more. I'm also trying to see if players' responses to quick short questions (to which they must reply quickly or it seems suspicious -- if I know the person is on, I'm checking times I sent my PM against the time the PM was received) are consistent with their posts on the forum. There was a very specific reason I asked each of the questions I asked you, attack. And you gave me exactly what I wanted with your responses, even your latest post on the forums. I'm a green townie. I have absolutely nothing to hide. If you wish, come back to this after we sort out the bloodycobbler thing, but as attack told us "Don't over read into things." | ||
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That seems really unfair without the NRA guy. Mafia should only be allowed to act during the night--with the lynch, they could have killed three people during the day. :/ | ||
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Edit: If you still want to be a part of this one, perhaps you should have re-thought your decision to kill yourself on the first day. Stop posting, please. | ||
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On January 02 2009 09:19 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Not to mention very few actually pinned me ass the VI at the time :D that is why I didn't get lynched. I was aiming for a day 2 lynch with mass chaos. We never actually got to day 2 though. After Ace would have been lynched, you wouldn't have died, haha. | ||
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LucasWoJ
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 Assuming Ace had not revealed his role early (or even if he did), I don't think we would have lynched you Day 2. By the way, it's possible that there are more Village Idiots in this game. That may seem fairly obvious but because the VI is a separate party, I assumed the secrecy of the number of roles didn't apply to him. According to Caller, it does. Someone else could still try wasting our time tomorrow as well. | ||
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On January 02 2009 10:45 Scaramanga wrote: It was obvious AZ was mafia because he called you a "smart" player. He called me a smart player, not oczcec, and he basically gave himself away when I asked him why he thought I was a smart player, haha. In the case that I don't live through this night, I'm going to split up what I know through PMs to people I fully trust. All of it will be done before the night post, so it's not cheating. Please check your PMs and respond when you get them. | ||
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Again, if you protected someone randomly last night and managed to save someone, don't bother contacting them. If you had a hunch that they were random, don't both. If you had more than a hunch, consider letting them know who you are. Don't risk it, but if it's not a risk, help the town. | ||
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LucasWoJ
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Right before the night post, Scaramanga informed me that the only three people he shared his role with were you, amber[light], and me. I assume he excluded camlito from that list because he had already informed me that he had looked him up and found him to be a meth dealer. The problem with that is that it was minutes before the night post. Mikeymoo, which whom I was enchanging PMs, can attest to this. I had no idea that you and amber[light] were in this little coalition. In fact, I had created a "possible mafia list in case I die" and sent it out to a few people, including scaramanga. Both you and amber were on it based off of your behavior PM-wise. Logically from my standpoint, this would mean that you could potentially be mafia. In fact, a few people could attest that I informed them of your small little inner circle and told them to watch out for you in case I died (and then after the day post, but before you posts, I informed the detective/jacks to consider role-checking you). My behavior PM-wise, has not been suspicious at all. Those who could speak up for me probably shouldn't or they will be targetted by the mafia. I'm not going to write a long defense. There's no need. You're acting irrationally and based on the assumption that either me or you is mafia. The problem, and I can already speculate this, is that neither of us are. The only other thing I can think of is that this was completely orchestrated by the mafia, assuming, again, that you're mafia of course. The mafia didn't trust me when I said I was a green townie, and assuming I was a meth dealer or another potentially dangerous role at night, they decided to get me lynched during the day. Don't waste the double lynch on a green townie and a blue. It's retarded. This game is imbalanced against the town as it is right now, and with the lost medics + jack + detective and wasted lych on the first day, it will only drag us back so far. I'm going to sleep in a few minutes. Don't be stupid. EDIT: By the way, THIS? On January 02 2009 14:06 ydg wrote: Well if the mafia knew camlito was the meth dealer, why would they send their suicide bomber to kill him? If I were mafia, I'd have to be absolutely insane to send a suicide bomber to kill a role that probably would not be protected and would kill me. I could achieve the same result with a normal mafioso. Respond to that, nevake. It just about clears you as much as it clears me. | ||
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On January 02 2009 14:38 nevake wrote: There's no possible way the mafia would've gotten all 3 of them without having some leakage. Scaramanga told me that you DID know about all the people killed excluding me (I told him not to tell you too much based on your behavior). Absolute falsity. He clearly trusted me much more than he did you. After I gave him my list (I shared it with Ver and mikeymoo as well), he responded with (@ 13:07) i know nevake role claimed zombie and so did amber so if they are both telling the truth then there could be more than 1 meth dealer Even from this, one can infer I know the identity of camlito (I even have a PM from scaramanga telling me his role) and we're discussing someone else's identity. Before this, I had no idea either or you were blue. I honestly thought you were both mafia, which is why I harassed you on the forums + sent certain implications in my PMs.Now for certain, good night. :/ | ||
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Furthermore, you completely ignore the fact that I knew the identity of camlito. If I were mafia, NO ONE would send their (hopefully) last suicide bomber on a confirmed meth dealer. In case it makes no sense to you, he'd have no medics on him because the point of his role is to draw fire in from the mafia. There are no benefits in wasting a role that is meant to multi-kill on someone who is almost sure to be a single kill. A regular mafioso, if they really wanted to trade-off 1:1, which is once against stupid, would have done the same job. Camlito was in contact with at least two others, but one of them is a confirmed blue and the other person is almost certainly blue. Unless the latter ran off with his mouth, there shouldn't be anyone else. According to mikeymoo, Camlito actually approached him and just straight up told him his role. If he did that to anyone, a mafioso say, it would be very beneficial to the mafia as they'd just ignore him. Clearly, the mafia didn't know Camlito's identity. Both you and I did. I was going to try and plan my own lynching yesterday with mikeymoo in a way to draw in the mafia and get the detectives to prove their sanity. It was going to be subtle enough to draw the mafia in after me, but when someone's as innocent as I am right now, it's just a waste of time. Honestly nevake, your lack of clear thinking, rush of emotions and acting on nothing but wrong impulses might very well lead us to our doom. You, sir, are possible as bad as oczcec, at least at causing unnecessary chaos. Town - Don't vote for either of us. I suppose you could, but those really playing this game should know it's already almost impossible to win. There are 10 possible mafia, one of whom is the doctor, one of whom is the GF. Assuming there are two moles (there are at least two jacks, so I'm assuming two Moles) and the GF successfully converts two people, there are fourteen mafiosos. With two wasted lynches (possibly three if there's a double lynch) Note-- JL13, I added him, as well as a few others, after the first day because I realized I had forgotten to include any singers/songs. | ||
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If I'm honestly your strongest suspect right now, the town is completely screwed. Three days into it and, if I'm lynched, not a single mafioso will have been killed with the rope. Those constantly screaming (Oh noes! Town is doing so bad! UH OH!) are being observed as well. Peeping in every now and then, calling for reform, and then leaving are as chaotic as some of 03czc's stunts. I'm currently leading in terms of votes to get killed tonight, and that's because no one's taking the time to actually see if I'm innocent or not, either based off of behavioral analysis, if that's your forte, or making up clue analysis (because that's all everyone's doing at this point. Except for the truthbringer clue, everything is grinding teeth. There's a reason he was mafia: the clues that pointed to him made sense). | ||
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You're not allowed to talk after you've been killed. | ||
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LucasWoJ
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Keep it going, if just a little bit longer. Perhaps inactivity is just their strategy of not drawing fire. The two remaining two meth dealers, and two remaining zombies, on the other hand, are trying to draw mafia fire, but being blatantly obvious with their roles does them no good. With all the blues being quiet, the greens have little incentive to speak as they would give the mafia higher odds at hitting a blue (assuming the mafia eliminates them as a possible blue). And the atmosphere becomes more quiet, so that the mafia has to kill as randomly as we do (well, they have much higher odds I suppose). Others who play stupidly are probably so drenched in shame at this point that posting is the last thing they wish to do right now (I'm referring to those who were stupid enough to give away their roles). The mafia will probably target them this night and they know they can't do anything to protect themselves. Ver, I responded to you by PM. If you wish, we can continue our conversation in public; I have no preferences. Back on track -- Caller, you've devoted a lot of time to this game, so don't end it prematurely. Let it keep running. It's no fun because we're getting destroyed, but I suppose we might still be able to pull it off, depending on how many blues (and mafiosos) get killed tonight. | ||
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Edit: I find it odd no one listened to your arrows when the clue was pointed out. You were basically confirming that the clue analysis was correct. I'm disappointed. | ||
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My guess is infundumbulum was converted. | ||
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Original Message: whats your role? if really blue/green are you connected to mm circle? if blue/green what are your main suspects of mafia? whos gonna get hit from vigis? name a dt. Was chaoser your MVP? I was wondering why he stopped posting. When were each converted, Caller? | ||
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I suppose I went too far to say yours was incorrect. It was there. I meant to say that, basically, you were claiming to be FAR less active than you appeared to be than the impression you gave off.)I'm rather impressed with how Incognito played his role. For the majority of the game, I was convinced he was a blue. | ||
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On January 16 2009 13:18 malongo wrote: I wasnt playing right??? hey man next time someone asks you to clear you and someone else then agree with the fucking double lynch ok??? your defence lucasjow/nevake was so fucking bad that i thought all time you were mafia. Why didnt you call for the double lynch? My defense only seemed bad because you're bad at this game, lol. It was plain nevake was acting on impulse and I think he was convinced towards the end that I wasn't mafia either. Why would I have called for the double lynch? lol Looking at the roles, I feel this game was very stacked against the town. The mafia shouldn't have had more than 6 players originally in this type of game (with inactive townies). With the mole, the uncertainty, AND the GF's conversions, this game was impossible to win after the day 2 lynching didn't work out. We should have looked at the clues more though. By the way, Ver, did mafia inform you of your role before Caller, or did you go in "clean"? haha | ||
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On January 16 2009 13:38 Incognito wrote: @ Lucas - You never even talked to me. But I could read the things you posted on the forums. You played your role very well. I actually had a word document with everyone's name and a little note next to each. Although I didn't save it, I remember simply writing "blue? Slight chance he's green, but he's not mafia." I'm not sure how I arrived at that conclusion, but you convinced me. What role did you end up roleclaiming? It would have sucked had the vote rigger actually been recruited by the mafia. o.o Just shows once again why the GF should never have had that ability. | ||
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And there was no such thing as an inner circle this game, with the exception of chaoser/mikeymoo (and when chaoser seemed to make it obvious that he was the medic who had protected mikeymoo the night before) which is why this game was imbalanced. I'm going to throw this out again: the reason the boondock saint thing was able to work was because of the godfather's imbalanced abilities in this game. With so much uncertainty about the number of roles, the GF can only be killed by chance. | ||
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