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I think it's best to see if ver flips red before we do anything. After what happened in ace's game with mtf sending a list of blues to the mafia and caller being innocent, I wouldn't send info to ace. | ||
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On December 15 2008 15:58 chaoser wrote: see, that's the thing! even if you ARE mafia, they don't have to be legit! they could just be sacing you to gain oyur trust Even then, one less mafia would be good for the town. If nothing else, ace's post says that we need to carefully watch him to see who's side he's really on. 1. If Ver turns up mafia then we need to check out ace to make sure he's not sacrificing one of his own to gain a list of blues. 2. If Ver turns up green or blue, we need to get the name of ace's dt and decide if we want to lynch ace or his "dt" Either way, it will give the town a direction, even if the clues aren't good on the next day | ||
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On December 15 2008 18:20 AttackZerg wrote: My post was asking for somebody to pm me about what I can do to get involved in the game and also how Ace caught Ver. It was just a longer version of that. It was like that before, I saw it. Mind forewarding those to me? I've been wanting tips too. | ||
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On December 16 2008 10:14 capek wrote: I was thinking. We now have two "Stargate" clues. If we take that in context with this being a Starcraft Broodwar website using unit icons, maybe we can guess that a mafia member has a units icon with a Protoss unit made in a Stargate. If we do, the list of users that satisfy the above conditions are: Amber[LighT] <- Corsair Vivi5 <- Corsair JeeJee <- Corsair Roffles <- Corsair There may be more but they are users who have yet to post on either this topic or the voting one or are users I may have overlooked. If there are any more users with Corsair/Scout/Carrier icons (I doubt carrier...) then please either PM me or post it. Please note that this is just a wild guess at the clue but the one I believe makes the most sense so far. edit: just formatted the lines a little and bolded a few stuff. I wouldn't trust this, you can change your unit icon so easily that it's really unreliable. ex. I was a hydra when the first and second posts were made. I'm leaning towards trusting ace. If none of the clues point towards him, I'm going to trust him and send him my info. | ||
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On December 17 2008 16:52 blue_arrow wrote: These people have not spoken or voted since the beginning of day 2: vivi57 ydg kdog3683 Zbir artanis[xp] softer kuja900 jeejee MidnightGladius venomo45 capek Please speak up asap so that we can find out who was silenced EDIT: corrected day number That was a 13 hour day, I got a call from friends this morning to go out when I was halfway done reading the thread. "days will be 24-48 hours depending on voting, and night rolls have 24-36 hours to submit them to me." from the first post I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time that the post has come sooner than expected. I just got finished reading the thread and thinking about stuff when night is posted >_< | ||
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On December 17 2008 17:31 TruthBringer wrote: Vigis kill capek and fishball? Why capek over attackzerg though? capek hasn't posted yet, and attackzerg could be playing dumb or legitimately is new | ||
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I was also explaining why i hadn't posted or voted. | ||
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On December 17 2008 19:35 Scaramanga wrote: [/i]Righto, well your role claiming to the vigis at the moment so glhf Edit: whats with the weird [i] That's exactly the point. We don't need the vigis taking out blues. | ||
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I recommend the vigis attack the other two on the list, if they choose to attack tonight. | ||
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With this confirmation, it'll reduce the amount of holes caller and ace have to escape through if things turn out badly in the morning. | ||
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On December 18 2008 11:52 Ace wrote: To the vigi that NEVER contacted me, hit FISHBALL! I support this. Attackzerg is almost definitely innocent. | ||
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On December 18 2008 11:54 Caller wrote: I hope capek's computer didn't break down again I'm going to guess there's a 6/22 chance it did. | ||
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On December 18 2008 12:03 Ace wrote: what if AttackZerg is mafia and is just playing dumb like capek? oh and um, to the medic that I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT, I suggest you protect Attackzerg for now (even tho he's confused). and AttackZerg I suggest you protect Mynock. And to the jack, I hope you protect Vivi57. Jack, do not protect me, save your abilities for more checks on voting lists. | ||
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Yes, it's an easy way to find the mafia, but that kills the game and is boring. | ||
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do we go for fishball or attackzerg | ||
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On December 18 2008 18:54 AttackZerg wrote: There is 1 medic left. hmmm.... I FUCKING WONDER. I GOT IT. KILL HIM. DING DING DING YOU WIN A PRIZE! Come on man, you've talked with me long enough to realize I'm legit. I was going to gaurd Chaoser, as we have been together since the start, and he told me to gaurd caller. Not my fault. Yeah, we should probably go for fishball first. I do believe that attackzerg is innocent. Why *isn't* fishball on the dead list... | ||
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electricity gun smiling when he killed bent down/looked into his eyes “searing liquid” Anubus firewood “stripping life” no weapon Chronus “backed up into a corner” cracking Camulous knuckles punches coat near a boxing ring – bum? Camulous eyes: “fear to contempt” sliced throat weaponless kill “fly out in front of him” “rain of punches and kicks” Aphophis broke arm shot knees threw into crate/barrel Ameratsu sent a billboard down to kill “metal embrace” – has anyone been advocating metal TvZ lately? Misc “flashed each other badges” Chronus and Camulous fighting JeeJee quote about fear driving competition – Camulous? (weak) Kuja900 july quote in profile – links to a physical attack? (weak) kuja loves anarchy – Yu? (weak) “fear to contempt” + “rain of punches” – kuja’s turn to insanity (moderate) RebirthofLegend has been trying to discredit ace the whole game, suspicious Firewood -> fire -> rebirth – Anubus (moderate) Anubus is close to Anubis, the Egyptian god of death, close to rebirth (weak) Scaramanga/More_Minerals can’t find anything beyond what others have posted Folca there must be some grudges against him from last game. It’s suspicious that the mafia didn’t kill him on the first night The best lead I have from this is rebirthoflegend as anubus. That’s pretty convincing to me. | ||
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On December 19 2008 08:57 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I just though of something, would we know if the silencer was recruited into the mafia? If not "then bending down Yu looked into his eyes, then smiling silenced him forever." Could indicate that Yu was once the silencer, no? Impossible, silencer would have to link half the mafia names to code names. Yu was there on the first night I'd be impressed if the silencer managed to link mafia names to codenames before the codenames existed. | ||
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His goal now is to dissociate the other mafia members from him. What better way to do so than arguing with them. | ||
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On December 17 2008 14:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Whens voting close BC? Also that is weird that everyone gets told who is silenced. It makes the role less useful, if you silence someone important and then slam him, he can't defend himself. Which would help the mafia own people a lot. The only difference between this mafia and mafia 3 is the silencer. The silencer makes the mafia a little stronger when it was debated that the town was overpowered in mafia 3. Rebirth is basically saying the silencer should be more powerful because the town is overpowered. Even if attackzerg dies, the mafia will still have 4 killing power, therefore, I'm asking everyone to Change your vote to RebirthOfLegend A vigi can easily kill attackzerg who's guarenteed mafia. We should save killing him until it's useful for the town (when it will reduce his killing power). a summary of clues against rebirth: has been trying to discredit ace the whole game, probably to destroy any leadership the town has Firewood -> fire -> rebirth, this fits in with the firewood display Anubus hid behind Anubus is close to Anubis, the Egyptian god of death. Death leads to rebirth, just as Anubus leads to RebirthofLegend Change your vote to RebirthOfLegend There isn't much to be gained by lynching attackzerg today. The mafia will have 4 killing power regardless. | ||
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On December 19 2008 09:40 TruthBringer wrote: Killing attackzerg is still the way to go, because we want to kill a mafia for sure during the day and during the night. And the case against rebirthoflegend is underwhelming. To shine a little more light upon rebirth, he was in the trust circle with Chaoser, Nevake, and AttackZerg. How do I know this? I was invited, but I declined because I didn't trust AttackZerg. I think AttackZerg influenced the whole group to be very skeptical of Ace and that is why Rebirth was so anti-ace. Maybe Nevake can shed more light on what happened in that group, but I believe that AttackZerg was the only mafia there. I'd like to hear more about this. | ||
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I had the list of clues, but didn't connect them to names until today. I suppose that's suspicious, but as I was going through names, everything fit into place around rebirth. If you have stronger evidence for someone other than az, we should hit them during the day. I still think we should let the vigi get az since that's simple enough to do and he is guarenteed red. We should spend the day looking for other mafia rather than going after az. | ||
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AZ is being annoying as hell, trying to get us to waste our lynch on him rather than letting the vigi do it. If we let him get that, he'll have outplayed us even after he was a known mafia. | ||
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Now that I think about it, it does make some sense to do that. If the mafia has the name of the other vigi, they're dead tonight and if they don't use their hit tonight, it's wasted. Now, assuming they have to use it tonight, we could have them hit az and vote for someone else or we could vote for az and leave it up to a single person to decide who to hit tonight. I think voting for the non az mafia would give a better result than letting the vigi decide alone. | ||
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On December 19 2008 10:40 AttackZerg wrote: I am not mafia. I thought ace was smart enough to figure it out. I figured the only way to get mafia off of what we were doing was to confuse them. My death will not be in vain. Ace Look at everybody who has posted since I first posted. Only mafia would feel the need to start contributing now, when they hadn't before! Forget everything I said, he's pissing me off too, lynch him now. | ||
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can we have him modkilled so we can look for someone else? az: this is the worst coverup plan I've *ever* seen. Especially after you said you were mafia explicitly | ||
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It won't help, he edited half of them out | ||
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strong: more_minerals 0zc moderate: RebirthofLegend Mynock and I'm sure they have some behind the scenes | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j201/Vivi57/mafia0z.jpg) I'm convinced | ||
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they still have 4 kp because they recruited the silencer. Our jack is gone too. With ace and caller gone, we should either go for 0zc or more_minerals. I think we should lynch more_minerals I think the evidence against him is stronger, although if we lynch 0zc and he flips red, we have a massive list of innocents from his clue deciphering post. | ||
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Camulus is doing the same things he's done before On second thought, we should lynch 0cz3c There's a huge chance he's mafia and if he flips red, we have a massive fake clue analysis that we can go off of. Keep in mind he posted random crap for 40 pages, trying to derail the thread. Once we started accusing him directly, he posted some clue analysis. | ||
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The vote for Ace from yesterday is full of potential mafia names. Based on what scara says, we should definitely lynch 0zc3c There's a MASS of information to gain from his clue analysis and if he's red, that will be huge. | ||
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also, I found this as one of his earlier posts On December 15 2008 06:50 dinmsab wrote: I was going to vote for Folca, but you Hyperbola changed my mind. Its true Folca is a jerk, but we cant just go kill off random townies if we're planning to win this. Good work Hyperbola.  Someone should look into folca | ||
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I'm going to go shower and eat then I'm going to do some name analysis to see what each name means and work from there. | ||
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I believe ShadowDrgn is Kali The entire kill is a *excellent* description of a dragon. "he quickly ran up a small set of stairs, then to a window and climbed out the fire escape" This fits wonderfully with his profile of himself doing the FireBatHero crotch dance. | ||
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The case against kuja is actually fairly strong with that list: in his profile: "July fighting" - reference to all the fighting camulous has done from the first day, "fear to contempt" which then turns into a massive burst of anger as Camulous gets a double kill. This is similar to kuja when he finds out that he isn't immortal. He's upset for a short while which quickly turns into contempt as he decides the world shouldn't live on without him. He then goes on to try to destroy the world in a burst of rage, similar to the outburst of Camulous. | ||
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All I can find is "fighting" in his profile and the name dog... That's weaker that kujas or even mynock's. | ||
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Imagine if they'd decided to silence attackzerg instead of meegreen. He wouldn't have had to defend himself and wouldn't have dug himself so deeply into a hole where we knew for sure he was mafia. | ||
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Just saw that you mixed up Chronus and Camulous. That makes alot more sense now. | ||
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It'll probably be hard to change all the votes this late in the day. Vote for kdog | ||
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If there's 1, we should keep this going another day, if not, I'm fine ending this now If you are going to end it, give us a few hours notice, I want to see everyone's suspect list so we can laugh afterwards | ||
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2. MyHeronoob 4. aznaliance 7. cynanmachae 8. folca 9. Mynock 13. ydg 23. Zbir 26. artanis[xp] 29. softer 38. jeejee 44. venomo45 Also on the 4/7 Mafia list: ydg artanis[xp] Who I like from the 4/7 list: amber[light] - roleclaimed vigi and completely directed the vote away from shadowdrgn. I was questioning this because the living vigi had the clue about strangling while the dead vigi was the one with the ray of light clue. kuja900 - fits the clues well Artanis - overly inactive | ||
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I'm predicting I'll be dead in the morning so I'm posting this now. BC offering to end the game means that the entire thing is already decided and that we can't do much against it. Probably because we've put our trust in the wrong places. Therefore, I'm calling everyone to lynch Ace tomorrow. Best case scenario: he flips red and we go back to clue analysis Worst case scenario: he flips blue and we laugh since the game was already lost. Notice how Shadowdrgn (high chance of mafia) is saying we should keep playing. Who would want to stop when they're winning? Ace wants the same. BC wouldn't offer to end the game if we had much of a chance. Lynch ace and let the hilarity of anarchy take hold. | ||
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I think that would be a better end to the game. | ||
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I was *sure* shadow was mafia | ||
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I come back after being gone a week and find out our clue analysis was COMPLETELY wrong. Got rebirthoflegend down, but that was pinning him on the wrong person. Kuja I was just as sure as you that you were camulus. Missed caller's game so I'll have to wait around for the next one. | ||
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