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TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 13 2008 08:05 GMT
#27
Sign me up, please!
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 13 2008 08:25 GMT
#32
Just fyi--not to be a dick--the numbers don't addup currently. 50 total, 10 mafia, 24 regs, 14 blues, 1 silencer. 24 + 14 + 10 + 1 = 49. 25 reg townies?
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 13 2008 19:04 GMT
#62
Hyper, it's his first time hosting, let him do a format that is comfortable for him.

Bloody, I told my friend "venomo45" to sign up and play. He signed up on page 2, but I think you ignored him because he only has 1 post. He really will play this game, I'll pressure him to if he starts flaking out! Also, we won't be sharing information with each other about the game unless we are both mafia or are both confirmed townies.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 14 2008 18:50 GMT
#140
Hyper, Folca is the same person he was last game. He is going to do whatever he wants regardless of whether it screws the game over.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 14 2008 21:31 GMT
#147
I agree with malongo that Folca shouldn't be let in future mafia games. But I changed my vote to Scaramanga, I like Hyperbola's analysis, the imitation of "Sair is the next Bonjwa" is very strong imo.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 15 2008 05:28 GMT
#185
Everyone vote for Ver, even if you already voted in the last 12 hours, DT revealing that VER is mafia should be a good reason to switch. Also, if he doesn't let you switch, who cares? May as well try.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 15 2008 05:51 GMT
#188
Chaoser, if any mafia is willing to sacrifice himself to kill a single townie, I'll take that trade. If you run the numbers . . . you should be willing to also.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 15 2008 05:55 GMT
#189
I don't know exactly what the detective did, but I am guessing he checked two people for their roles. One turned up green, one turned up red. He told the green to announce the red.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 16 2008 18:20 GMT
#335
Two dead detectives . . . who still trusts Ace?

Yu is the electricity guy. I still kind of like Blue_arrow as electricity guy, but I am sure there are more suspects that fit that category.

Anubus is hanging out near a supermarket and near a firewood display, and he beats Camlito without a weapon. IDK.

Chronus and Camulous fighting each other? More_minerals and Showtime!?
Camulous slits Heros)pink's throat.
Chronus "you're next" cracks his knuckles, flies out in front of Tensai, beats him to death with punches and kicks.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 16 2008 18:44 GMT
#342
I would say it's probably 2 of these 3, fishball, capek, and spike.
Attackzerg's first time playing and he seemed genuinely clueless and was asking people how to play. If he were mafia, I think they would be guiding him in how to play.

Electricity spike? It was a large voltage that got SpiralArchitect . . .
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 16 2008 18:54 GMT
#347
Right now, I am leaning towards lynching spike. Spike, capek, and fishball all have empty profiles, so basically we are going off of their names. (Fishball's profile may have something in chinese or korean characters, anyone know what it says?)
Spike can be indicated by the electricity or perhaps as Caller says a sharp object (spike) killing SA.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 16 2008 19:10 GMT
#359
If you aren't willing to play the game unless you get the role you want, maybe you shouldn't play. A townie shouldn't be bored, he should try to decipher clues.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 16 2008 20:14 GMT
#380
Vote for Spike, according to a DT, 2 of the 4 Folca voters are mafia. The 4 were spike, capek, fishball, and attackzerg.

Camlito got 1 hit killed to the face which could be done with a spike.
Also, SpiralArchitect got hit by a huge voltage of electricity. Electricity spike?

I honestly didn't look into attackzerg's profile, but the other 3 were blank, except fishball has "soul symphony" written in korean.

So based off the names, Spike is dirtiest. Someone should look into AttackZerg though, I just dismissed him because he really seems clueless and unaligned.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 16 2008 23:49 GMT
#446
Oczec's posts are not funny, they are very lame.
They always come as a distraction from tracking down mafia.
He puts forth no effort into clue analysis but spends plenty of time writing tedious, long, stupid posts that serve no function other than distracting us from finding the mafia.

Even if he is a green townie, he is playing so self-servingly it is ridiculous. He just does the same bullshit every game so that he blends in every game.

Notice that he is doing exactly the same thing as last game, with the long distracting posts. But is he clue analyzing? No.

He's just building a reputation, so that when he is actually mafia in one of these games, he can do this same act which involves nothing to help the town . . . and remain unsuspected.

It will be proof that I am not a vigilante, if oczec lives through the night.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 16 2008 23:57 GMT
#448
Honestly, I'm happy with us lynching spike or Mynock. The mynock clues are pretty decent, he did fly, he did slice (and no mention of weapon, mynock would slice with a body appendage).

I think we are a bit better off if we lynch spike, if he turns red, that'll definitely help some of us trust Ace.

Ace, not trusting you doesn't make someone an idiot. I do not fully trust you. The 5th hit could have been healed by a medic, or taken by another veteran. You could still be mafia. But as long as you keep feeding us mafia, we trust you. And the trust doesn't necessarily run out as soon as you lead us astray. If this 2/4 Folca voters turns out wrong, we'll want your head or the fake DTs head.

Ver's death is not a huge deal, because mafia killing power is still at 5. Once we kill another mafia then we have reduced their power.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 17 2008 00:33 GMT
#458
Infundibulum, about Ver.
Ver posted very logical and helpful to the town posts in the last mafia game. If he didn't keep that up this game he would stick out like a sore thumb. Maybe he was considered to be the least capable of blending in of all the mafia. Fishballs and oczecs blend in when they are mafia, they behave the same no matter what role they are (it seems).
I don't think Vers blend in well.
Plus, Ver's death gives us more trust in Ace than say Spike's death.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 17 2008 08:31 GMT
#488
Vigis kill capek and fishball?
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 17 2008 21:26 GMT
#530
BTW Ace, the martyr may have been doing exactly what you asked of him. As I understand it, he sacrifices himself to save someone else's life not to save them a hit point.

Attackzerg, you can't blame Ace for directing you to heal someone who ended up not getting hit. Ace, if townie, has no way of knowing for sure who the mafia will hit, he just tries to protect the important targets.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 17 2008 23:40 GMT
#540
Let's not do anything drastic based on the AttackZerg's statements. Go ahead with the vigi hits on Capek and Fishball.
Attackzerg still could very well be mafia.
We should reevaluate based on the color of Capek and Fishball's blood.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 18 2008 02:01 GMT
#592
For future reference, AttackZerg, it's not a good idea to announce who you are healing. The mafia will not hit him now. If the mafia were unsure whether he was protected, they might have gone for him with one of their 5 hits, and you would have prevented his death. Then the town would only lose 4 people. As it is, they'll go after other targets and we'll lose 5 people.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 18 2008 05:03 GMT
#641
Attackzerg you are causing trouble again . . .

Martyr sacrifices himself for one person. If the person he is protecting would die, he dies instead.

If paramedic A is watching townie A, and paramedic B is watching paramedic A and the suicide bomber comes along after townie A, they all die.

If the martyr is guarding townie A, only townie A survives, both paramedics and the martyr will die.

I don't know how much of this you are choreographing, but generally it is pretty bad for a paramedic to let the mafia know his moves. Feel free to tell the people you trust what you are planning to do. But don't announce it to everyone including the mafia.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 18 2008 18:24 GMT
#704
Is it me or did AttackZerg obliterate the no editting rule? Modkill him and we can lynch More_minerals?
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 18 2008 19:08 GMT
#708
kdog3683's quote is "fighting!"

Chronus has been fighting Camulous, kills Camlito with a rain of punches and kicks and is at the boxing ring in day 3.

I think Chronus is kdog3683.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 18 2008 19:27 GMT
#709
Hmm slight change of mind. I think Scaramanga may be Chronus. He has "fighting" in his quote, [hwaiting = fighting]. Chronus was the mafia that fought Camulous before killing Tensai176.

Chronus says "you're next" to Tensai176. "sair is the next bonjwa" is from Scaramanga's quote.

Chronus kills Tensai176 with a rain of punches and kicks (my mistake earlier indicating it was Camlito that he killed). Chronus also kills someone at a boxing ring. Very fighting oriented.

Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 19 2008 00:10 GMT
#752
AttackZerg we all know you are mafia, so we take anything you say with a grain of salt. Feel free to waste your time and continue posting, but it will have no impact on any of us at all.

It seems like you are just being an asshole to people now . . . (to rebirth) "your pretty fucking stupid."

The gamesmanship is over, because we are ignoring your posts in this thread as irrelevant now.

I don't think it's a good idea to continue your personal attacks on other people.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 19 2008 00:40 GMT
#762
Killing attackzerg is still the way to go, because we want to kill a mafia for sure during the day and during the night. And the case against rebirthoflegend is underwhelming.

To shine a little more light upon rebirth, he was in the trust circle with Chaoser, Nevake, and AttackZerg. How do I know this? I was invited, but I declined because I didn't trust AttackZerg.

I think AttackZerg influenced the whole group to be very skeptical of Ace and that is why Rebirth was so anti-ace. Maybe Nevake can shed more light on what happened in that group, but I believe that AttackZerg was the only mafia there.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 19 2008 03:39 GMT
#803
Hmm, I find oczec extremely unpleasant to play with, but I would rather we vigi kill More_minerals tonight. More_minerals falsely rolecalled and told us to lynch a townie (showtime). I find that more compelling than what I have seen from oczec.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 19 2008 03:41 GMT
#804
Fishball, I felt the exact same way. I get the impression that Scaramanga posted that to seem like a townie, because I believe he is in fact Chronus or Camulous one of the "Hwaiting" mafia guys.

But, right now, I think the two strongest leads are 1. AttackZerg (obv) 2. More_Minerals (false rolecalled DT, tried to get us to kill Showtime).
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 19 2008 03:59 GMT
#810
Oczec, maybe you have been missing my point. It is harmful to the town when you post long, rambling posts that involve no clue analysis or strategy that serve only as a distraction from our true purpose of figuring out who the mafia are.

If you are a townie, I hope you'll adjust your playstyle accordingly. With each new substanceless post, I become more convinced that you are mafia or silencer.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 19 2008 17:53 GMT
#834
Just reiterating that I think More_Minerals is our strongest lead right now. He falsely roleclaimed detective and tried to get us to kill Showtime.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 20 2008 16:36 GMT
#895
Malongo, any idea why you were silenced?
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 20 2008 19:57 GMT
#911
I like artanis, kdog, amber[light], and midnightgladius from the first list, shadowdrgn from the 2nd.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 21 2008 16:31 GMT
#954
If those lists are trustworthy we can take down 5 mafia in short order. Mad Hatter apparently already has bombs placed on kuja and shadowdrgn. We are still very much in this.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 21 2008 16:47 GMT
#955
5 mafia based on the 2 lists Scaramanga told us. I think Aznvaliance is one of the other mafia.
Contents of his profile:
"How can there be any meaning in the memory of such a being? What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion."
—Sephiroth

"Whoever wins, the battle does not end. The loser is set free from the battlefield, while the winner must remain there. And the survivor will live out his life as the warrior until the day he dies." -Big Boss aka Naked Snake

Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus ***

When BC died a hand touched him from behind. He turned and ended up only shooting wall. An illusion?

The second quote whoever wins, the battle does not end. Camulous was fighting Chronus and although Cam(?) was winning, the battle did not end because they both went after tensai176 and Heros)pink right afterwards.

The third quote, "worth fighting for?" Fighting has been a common theme for Camulous/Chronus whichever one of them.

I still think we should get rid of the others on the 2 lists first, but then AznValiance should be a top suspect.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 21 2008 17:02 GMT
#956
Regarding, Amber[Light]'s vigi claim, there is a living vigi right now, and if it weren't amber, he would have spoken up. So, we can trust Amber[Light].

Which narrows that list even more. 4/6 with malongo, ydg, artanis, kuja, midnight, and decaf. I think artanis, kuja, and midnight are mafia. Idk who would be 4th. According to Amber we have bombs on both shadowdrgn and kuja.

So let's vigi kill artanis[xp] tonight?
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 21 2008 22:49 GMT
#972
Fishball is clean.

Amber[Light] is clean.

The remaining vigi has only one more kill left. So it makes no sense for him to hide himself at this point. He can use his last hit tonight.

Therefore the fact that nobody spoke out against all the stuff amber[light] has said means that Amber[light] is trustworthy. Amber must either be someone the vigi trusts or must be the vigi himself.
Silenced Ace could be the vigilante, but he is most likely mafia or veteran, so probably not the vigilante.
Carbon FC
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 22 2008 01:46 GMT
#982
Well, I don't know why at this point the vigi would be afraid to reveal himself, but based on the way the one vigi is trying to protect Amber, makes me think that he is the real vigi and that Amber is his "mouth" so he can avoid getting killed.

Once again though, I thought vigis only got 2 kills and that all of our vigis had already used at least one. So I don't know why the vigi would need Amber[Light] to be his mouth.
Carbon FC
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