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On December 14 2008 08:50 Folca wrote: Aw you guys ruin the fun ![]() speak for yourself bud :p | ||
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On December 14 2008 15:45 AttackZerg wrote: I'm sorry but anybody who posts that long of a 'trust me' this early hmm I don't know. This is my first game I just can't imagine anybody spending that long without due cause. How do mafia normally act in this game? Any seasoned pro's of pm me. oczec was posting like this last time and he was green. however, that means nothing this time around ![]() | ||
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On December 15 2008 02:02 Tensai176 wrote: When are the day results getting posted? Tbh, I think we need some more clues to figure this out, no offense to bloody cobbler but i dont think the clues will get that far metaphorically and it'll be something simple. It's always something simple. of course we aren't going to get far at all on one day of clues. generally it takes at least 2 days of clues, since we can't cross reference from one day post. if we manage to find a mafia from one day of clues we are either lucky or BC isn't doing his job well. the best way is to analyze people's posts, but even at this point in the game there hasn't been much posting. the first lynch is always difficult because of these things. | ||
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On December 14 2008 16:39 JeeJee wrote: Sorry to break it to you all, but infundibulum is mafia. What shall we ever do?! oh no how did you catch me | ||
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On December 15 2008 12:14 JeeJee wrote: and please consider lynching infundibulum cuz he's obvious mafia you've been saying so for a while now. how about explaining your position, instead of just saying things like i'm "clearly mafia"? honestly i think you're just trying to stir shit up w/ me | ||
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1. Fishball (didn't post, but voted) 7. cynanmachae (didn't post, but voted) 13. ydg 16. kdog3683 23. Zbir (didn't post, but voted) 25. meegrean 26. artanis[xp] 29. softer (didn't post, but abstained) 34. heros)pink 35. spike (didn't post, but voted) 37. kuja900 40. randombum (didn't post, but voted) 42. MidnightGladius 47. roffles (didn't post, but abstained) 48. capek (didn't post, but voted) hopefully no mistakes there, i think that list is accurate as of this post. there are a few people who have only posted once, but i removed them from the list anyway, keeping in mind it's final exams week for many people. edit: removed Ver, he posted edit2: removed Clazz, he requested himself to be temp banned but did vote under a diff acct. | ||
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On December 16 2008 13:19 Ace wrote: yea that "Dts can check the people that didn't vote list" is a broken skill. Guess you gotta do what you gotta do. it honestly doesn't make much sense in my mind. I imagine the townies lining up, casting their votes on folded pieces of paper into the ballot box. The astute detective then covertly examines the handwriting and fingerprints, to determine whether a ballot was indeed the ballot of a mafia. How can he analyze a vote that hasn't been cast? | ||
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how does this happen | ||
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On December 17 2008 03:48 Caller wrote: also, did anybody notice the "sun going down" again? doesn't the sun, when it goes down, look like an amberlight? like sunsets? maybe? it's possible; it could just be a way to lead into the night post. but the fact that it appeared twice means it warrants a closer look i suppose | ||
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On December 17 2008 03:54 TruthBringer wrote: Right now, I am leaning towards lynching spike. Spike, capek, and fishball all have empty profiles, so basically we are going off of their names. (Fishball's profile may have something in chinese or korean characters, anyone know what it says?) Spike can be indicated by the electricity or perhaps as Caller says a sharp object (spike) killing SA. The characters in Fishball's sig translate to "soul symphony" i believe | ||
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On December 17 2008 04:03 Caller wrote: as for fishball's profile i believe it says "soul symphony" so maybe thats not the right clue. but capek''s name is that of the originator of the word "robot." maybe a robot punched camlito in the face to kill him? sorry Caller but that doesn't make any sense at all, haha | ||
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Well i was a bit hasty on that. Yu was smiling when he killed Spiral, i am not sure whether robots can smile. But maybe hes an android or cyborg or something, and still has a human face. If capek is mafia and if the robot idea is even a clue, it's also possible it has not yet appeared in a night post. (I should think things out better before i post so hastily). Furthermore, capek's postings after Night 1 make me think he be a townie. While Fishball and Spikes' behavior lead me to think they are mafia, I don't see anything in the clues yet that relates to them :S | ||
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On December 17 2008 04:22 Caller wrote: i think the spike to the face is good though. remember, blue_arrow seemed to be good last game but he was scummy. and fishball is being fishball, as usual. I guess so. I'm no good at analyzing posts/behavior beyond the very surface, and am easily fooled. this leads me to trust noone ...:tinfoil hat: | ||
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On December 17 2008 08:57 TruthBringer wrote: Honestly, I'm happy with us lynching spike or Mynock. The mynock clues are pretty decent, he did fly, he did slice (and no mention of weapon, mynock would slice with a body appendage). I think we are a bit better off if we lynch spike, if he turns red, that'll definitely help some of us trust Ace. Ace, not trusting you doesn't make someone an idiot. I do not fully trust you. The 5th hit could have been healed by a medic, or taken by another veteran. You could still be mafia. But as long as you keep feeding us mafia, we trust you. And the trust doesn't necessarily run out as soon as you lead us astray. If this 2/4 Folca voters turns out wrong, we'll want your head or the fake DTs head. Ver's death is not a huge deal, because mafia killing power is still at 5. Once we kill another mafia then we have reduced their power. The clues towards Mynock are alright. If the mafia were to out a member to gain public trust, why would they sacrifice Ver of all people? He's a really smart player and it simply wouldn't be worth it to trade him off. So Ver's death is a pretty big deal for them. I think, if Spike is lynched tonight and any vigi's go after the other 3 (capek, Fishball, or AttackZerg) we will have our confirmation of this 2/4 list of mafia, if any doubt is left. | ||
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On December 17 2008 09:05 Spike wrote: i thought silencers can only act after night 2? you do seem to be correct. my mistake ![]() | ||
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On December 18 2008 10:21 Caller wrote: Capek either you or Scaramanga is a dirty photoshopping liar. Your PM came at 7:09. Scar's PM came at 7:15. Scar is #18, you are #46. There are 36 townies (i believe) in this game. Assuming 15 seconds per towny, and that #'s 18-46 every odd one is towny, and assuming bloody cobbler went in reverse # order (i dunno why he would do that), you are still 3 minutes off schedule. the only explanation is that one of you are mafia and got your pm earlier/later than a towny would. thats assuming BC went in numerical order he could have just used a random number generator range 1-50, then said "ok these next 25 are townies," and each # that came up got a PM we don't know exactly how BC did the role assigning so i'd say you're making a baseless assumption | ||
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On December 18 2008 10:35 Caller wrote: thats just it though even with the random number generator thinking, unless bc literally just randomly picked somebody and gave them their role, there is no reason for that 3 minute delay. also notice how he shut up after my post ^^ that's true. it's still important to examine it from as many angles as possible though. | ||
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unless i am mistaken in how that role works, then yes i mostly was. | ||
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Yu - used a knife with some kind of "searing" liquid in it. poison, maybe something hot, or acid? also uses electricity. is it possible the liquid in the knife is the same liquid thrown on BC's face in day 1? i'm not sure of that because i would think the electricity and acid/poison would be connected to 2 separate mafias Scaramanga - i don't care what pm he posted. Sair/Flash in his sig both could relate to electricity, moderate Artanis[xp] - Artanis is a templar, may use psi-storm, weak venomo45 - poisoned knife, very weak clazziquai - is a korean band, Wikipedia lists their style as "electronic, acid jazz, and house." sounds a bit like Yu to me. moderate connection Apophis - first appeared by name in Day 3. Is strong (subdued meegrean easily), and possibly cruel, he shot his kneecaps and let him die in a barrel. i think the crates and barrels are also a clue. they could relate to maybe Donkey Kong, or the US store Crate & Barrel. Ameratsu - first appeared by name in Day 3. another really strong guy maybe, throwing a billboard or somehow detaching it from the roof. the phrase "metal embrace" is probably important here. Chronus - likes to fight and is good at it. see Day 2 where he is fighting Camulous (rain of punhes and kicks), and the boxing ring in Day 3. ZbiR - his name means 'thug' or 'bandit' or smth like that. is an ok connection, best i could find anyway Camulous - was fighting Chronus in Day 2, and losing until he saw heros)pink. he killed by 'surging' past Chronus, slamming into Heros, and 'slicing' his throat. emphasis on the words that BC used. Anubus was hiding behind a firewood display at a supermarket, kills Camlito with a single strike to the face, "stripping his life from this world." here's a list of the names so far and who i think could be connected after a quick overview. notice how we only have 7 names. that means we are missing 2, because Ver died. please make any connections you can, or debate with mine ![]() | ||
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On December 20 2008 05:32 0cz3c wrote: Day 2 = "a ray of light arcing from his chest" this one is Day 3, and is actually referrig to the dead body of Capek which implies to me that this is the clue left behind by the vigi. In this case we shouldn't be analyzing it; why do the mafias job for them? ![]() | ||
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interesting thought about zeks. it is possible he was just musing about the stargate clues, and Capek knowing they were false took some time to flesh them out and distract analysis in that direction. meegrean is dead and therefore cannot be mafia. and i agree with others who have posted that kdog3683's sig, "fighting!" connects rather well to Camulous who has been found fighting on repeat occasions. another valid connection is Scaramanga who has "HWAITING," which is korean for "fighting." kdog has been inactive in the thread so far, i believe. all of this has been mentioned before btw by myself and others, so yes there has been sufficient clue analysis. it just gets lost. | ||
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I agree with you guys about the clues regarding shadowdrgn, the fire escape could also be a reference to a fire breathing dragon. More clues about Camulous being adept at combat, although it's weird that he's the only mafia to be in every single day post so far. Makes me wonder about you, BC. I still think kdog3683 is the likely candidate here. Maybe ZbiR... i think he's inactive which is different than usual for him. Less so Scaramanga now who's probably townie even though this series of posts is, well, weird: On December 20 2008 20:03 Scaramanga wrote: What did i say? why did i say this? its because i know who the last dt is he just informed me that he clue checked ShadowDrgn and it revealed that he is Aphophis On December 20 2008 20:10 Vivi57 wrote: Um. Didn't aphophis just die and turned out to be dinmsab? On December 20 2008 20:21 Scaramanga wrote: Your right, the dt didnt clue check but vote checked and got this list Mynock, Folca, Nevake, Dinmsab, Shadowdrgn 2/5 is mafia he just thought it might have been shadowdrgn So lets get some clue analysis down on these guys and lynch the most likely, so we've alredy gotten a vigi off on dinmsab so lets get this last mafia Edit added more i don't understand why you wouldn't just post the list in the first place? anyway in my opinion these are likely mafia based on clues, i think: ShadowDrgn softer kdog3683 Mynock I'll say lynch ShadowDrgn, gives us information if that DT list Scaramanga posted is correct + possibly confirm some innocents. | ||
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On December 21 2008 01:36 TruthBringer wrote: Malongo, any idea why you were silenced? i think it was because he was making sense. it also coincided with silencer being recruited into mafia, iirc. | ||
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On December 21 2008 05:51 Vivi57 wrote: What exactly are the clues for kdog? I never even heard his name until this page. All I can find is "fighting" in his profile and the name dog... That's weaker that kujas or even mynock's. well if he's mafia, all BC has to work with really is the sig "fighting!" i think it works rather well with the character of Chronus (boxing ring kill, fighting w/ Camulous, rain of punches and kicks"). I know i was saying kdog could be Camulous before, but i got Chronus/Camulous mixed up :p. edit: plus hes on the 4/8 list | ||
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On December 21 2008 06:02 Amber[LighT] wrote: I agree with Scaramanga. We should go for KDog tonight because of how the lists are set up. Shadowdrgn is not confirmed yet and we may waste a kill on him. Our chances are better if we go for Kdog today. I disagree. kdog is not confirmed either; the clues pointing to him also point to a couple other people. we also get more information by lynching ShadowDrgn: namely, we can clear the names of everyone else on that list if he is red. edit: removed accidental italic | ||
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On December 21 2008 06:40 Amber[LighT] wrote: Okay guys we need you to switch votes from Shadowdrgn to KDog in order for this plan to work. I am the last remaining vigilante and I have one hit left, which I will be using tonight. We have as much to lose by going after Kdog as we do shadowdrgn, but we are better off going for kdog today. I have confirmation from Caller before he died saying that he knew who the Mad Hatter was and he knows who currently has bombs placed on them (ShadowDrgn and Kuja). We need to follow this plan so we can win. We will take out (hopefully) 3 mafia members AT LEAST following this plan, and if we can't we will have valuable information for clue analysis for the remainder of the game. ok. if the bomb is on Shadow i will vote for kdog. | ||
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thought we had a decent shot with kdog as Chronus, even if the clues pointing to him also could have pointed to a few others also guys, we don't know for sure if there are really bombs on kuja900 and ShadowDrgn. Amberlight hasn't posted much all game, has been on several peoples suspects (notably Caller, Showtime!), then comes out and says he is a vigi and was in contact with Caller before Caller died? Then he persuades us against lynching ShadowDrgn who we are fairly certain is red. I'm calling bullshit here. I think Amber[LighT] is mafia. | ||
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On December 22 2008 02:02 TruthBringer wrote: Regarding, Amber[Light]'s vigi claim, there is a living vigi right now, and if it weren't amber, he would have spoken up. So, we can trust Amber[Light]. ugh thats true i didn't think of it that way. and we know both vigis are active. i still don't trust him though. | ||
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On December 22 2008 02:29 Amber[LighT] wrote: No this is not true. Just because 1 lynch flipped a green instead of red I am automatically mafia? The plan is that we still have shadowdrgn killed, or well he will not be alive for long. We can focus attention on other suspects for the next lynch and get more clue analysis done (which doesn't seem to get done in this thread). The decision was to lynch either Kuja or Kdog, but what I have been told is that Kuja is also being targeted with a bomb. I already know who I am hitting tonight. This lynch has helped us narrow the lists down significantly and our odds have increased. We have the ability to take out 3 mafia tonight and an additional tomorrow there is nothing to worry about this cuts their killing power by 2 (if all goes perfectly). There is a method to this madness. So where have I been all game? I've been quiet because I have been behind the scenes making sure that I didn't get killed. You wonder how a vigi doesn't die? They don't speak up and make themselves obvious for the mafia, and you don't align yourself with people you can't trust. I was working with the Jack originally (he role-checked me) and I needed to make sure my identity was covered. Once he got killed I had to go to an alternate source and place a lot of trust in these individuals. I figure I have one hit left anyway I have to put trust in someone for a definite hit! it just really bothers me that you come out of no where like that, after being nowhere all game, to sway us to lynch a green. you have to admit it doesn't look good. from my perspective, i have no idea if you are telling the truth or not, and the town is in a precarious position. in any case, we will find out tonight whether you are truthful (i hope you are). i was too hasty to accuse in my post you quoted, sorry for that. i tend not to think things through enough before i say them. edit: put in a space | ||
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On December 22 2008 03:19 Amber[LighT] wrote: I'm not gonna sit here and try to convince you to not to think I'm mafia, but for the sake of the game if you have a chance can you please try to analyze the players on this list? 5/10 of this list are mafia. Malongo - silenced, ydg kdog3683*dead* meegrean artanis[xp] amber[light] kuja900 Ver*dead MidnightGladius DecafChicken Even me if need be please analyze clues to me 5/10 -> 4/7 Malongo - silenced - i had been suspicious of him early on, but going back reading through his posts i think he is a townie. ydg - any clue would be from his quote "The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next." i don't see anything in the day posts except MAYBE the fight scene with Camulus and lakris in day 4. artanis[xp] - the only connection i can see is to Yu, because of the use of electricity and Artanis is a templar (psi storm). i think it's weak however. amber[light] - you already know what i think of your posts this game. the only clues i find relating to you are the sunset clues mentioned before, however since they do not relate to any specific character i'm not confident in them. kuja900 - people have already done analysis here. i never played ffix or whatever he's in, so i can't comment for sure on here. MidnightGladius - has he posted at all yet? his name always comes up in mafia simply because of the word "Gladius," however there are also a lot of references in the Day posts to darkness i.e. midnight. For example, the darkening of the town hall and the pitch black warehouse. However, the 2 mafia in the warehouse were Yu and Apophis, and Apophis = dinmsab, and i can't see how MG can be connected to Yu's use of electricity. DecafChicken - no idea about postings, he's been pretty inactive as well. his sig is "how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?" A clue that connects to this is Anubus hiding behind the firewood at the supermarket. Supermarkets sell food (duh!) and decafchicken has food references in his name, sig, and even profile. And the firewood is maybe a reference to his sig. that's what i got with like 10 minutes. some of that i have already posted before, maybe you missed it otherwise i don't see why you'd want me to repeat myself. now i ask you: what's your take on the people on this 4/7 list, and what of my interpretations? | ||
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On December 22 2008 05:19 Fishball wrote: It wouldn't really matter, as long as I don't say who. Just letting you know there is a conflict. And from how I (and most of us) see this, the game should effectively end tonight. Unless the Mafia decides to target the inactives. Yeah. Even so we have 3 vets and a medic alive still, so it would take them a long time to win. Kind of like mafia 2 in a way. Posting the lists for future reference. A * denotes somone i feel is suspicious. 2/21 are mafia 2. MyHeronoob 3. zeks 4. aznaliance* 5. Nevake 7. cynanmachae 10. clazziquai 12. vivi57 17. more_minerals 18. scaramanga 19. truthbringer 21. Qatol 23. Zbir 28. RebirthofLegend 29. softer* 30. ace 36. infundibulum 38. jeejee* (only because he keeps calling me mafia ![]() 39. 0cz3c 40. randombum 44. venomo45 47. roffles 4/7 of this list are mafia. Malongo ydg artanis[xp]* (i guess :S) amber[light]* kuja900* MidnightGladius DecafChicken* (i can't make up my mind about these 4/7 people haha) 1/4 is mafia Mynock Folca Nevake Shadowdrgn* | ||
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On December 22 2008 17:53 MidnightGladius wrote: Why meeeeee? dunno but at least we got smashed together before kicking the bucket! ![]() | ||
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![]() It's a very frustrating feeling for me, when my clue analysis etc. went largely ignored and nobody ever really discussed and then i get killed :s | ||
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On December 28 2008 04:13 Amber[LighT] wrote: haha I'm terribly sorry about misleading the town you can ask Qatol I felt bad doing what I did. I knew I would be under suspicion it didn't matter since I needed you guys to want to lynch me anyway. It was the only thing we could do to be clever was to have me roleclaim vigi :p yeah it was a shitty situation and i definitely understand the angle you tried to play it from now. it's too bad i was an idiot about it during the game though! | ||
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On December 28 2008 04:22 Kuja900 wrote: Early on alot of your analysis was kind of garbage, no offense mate so we let you live then you started getting better and while the town didnt notice you the mafia sure did we lynched you to prevent your ideas from gaining ground. haha none taken. i knew i was going to die after i had started making those lists, but was ok with that because i thought my death would ultimately help the town. but that's not really the way it worked out haha | ||
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