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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-20 19:45:10
December 20 2008 19:44 GMT
#906
i must add this is hilarious if true
regarding those dt lists
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 20 2008 19:54 GMT
#910
that's a good q, i'd assume he wouldn't be able to silence himself cause afaik none of the other roles can act upon themselves (i.e. medic can't protect himself, right?). it's not said in the op.

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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-20 21:00:31
December 20 2008 21:00 GMT
#917
On December 21 2008 05:51 Vivi57 wrote:
What exactly are the clues for kdog? I never even heard his name until this page.

All I can find is "fighting" in his profile and the name dog...

That's weaker that kujas or even mynock's.


well if he's mafia, all BC has to work with really is the sig "fighting!" i think it works rather well with the character of Chronus (boxing ring kill, fighting w/ Camulous, rain of punches and kicks"). I know i was saying kdog could be Camulous before, but i got Chronus/Camulous mixed up :p.

edit: plus hes on the 4/8 list
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-20 21:07:24
December 20 2008 21:06 GMT
#919
On December 21 2008 06:02 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I agree with Scaramanga. We should go for KDog tonight because of how the lists are set up. Shadowdrgn is not confirmed yet and we may waste a kill on him. Our chances are better if we go for Kdog today.


I disagree. kdog is not confirmed either; the clues pointing to him also point to a couple other people. we also get more information by lynching ShadowDrgn: namely, we can clear the names of everyone else on that list if he is red.

edit: removed accidental italic
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 20 2008 22:20 GMT
#928
On December 21 2008 06:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Okay guys we need you to switch votes from Shadowdrgn to KDog in order for this plan to work.

I am the last remaining vigilante and I have one hit left, which I will be using tonight.

We have as much to lose by going after Kdog as we do shadowdrgn, but we are better off going for kdog today. I have confirmation from Caller before he died saying that he knew who the Mad Hatter was and he knows who currently has bombs placed on them (ShadowDrgn and Kuja). We need to follow this plan so we can win. We will take out (hopefully) 3 mafia members AT LEAST following this plan, and if we can't we will have valuable information for clue analysis for the remainder of the game.


ok. if the bomb is on Shadow i will vote for kdog.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 21 2008 17:02 GMT
#957
hm
thought we had a decent shot with kdog as Chronus, even if the clues pointing to him also could have pointed to a few others

also guys, we don't know for sure if there are really bombs on kuja900 and ShadowDrgn. Amberlight hasn't posted much all game, has been on several peoples suspects (notably Caller, Showtime!), then comes out and says he is a vigi and was in contact with Caller before Caller died? Then he persuades us against lynching ShadowDrgn who we are fairly certain is red. I'm calling bullshit here. I think Amber[LighT] is mafia.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 21 2008 17:04 GMT
#958
On December 22 2008 02:02 TruthBringer wrote:
Regarding, Amber[Light]'s vigi claim, there is a living vigi right now, and if it weren't amber, he would have spoken up. So, we can trust Amber[Light].


ugh thats true i didn't think of it that way. and we know both vigis are active.

i still don't trust him though.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-21 17:52:02
December 21 2008 17:51 GMT
#960
On December 22 2008 02:29 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2008 02:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
hm
thought we had a decent shot with kdog as Chronus, even if the clues pointing to him also could have pointed to a few others

also guys, we don't know for sure if there are really bombs on kuja900 and ShadowDrgn. Amberlight hasn't posted much all game, has been on several peoples suspects (notably Caller, Showtime!), then comes out and says he is a vigi and was in contact with Caller before Caller died? Then he persuades us against lynching ShadowDrgn who we are fairly certain is red. I'm calling bullshit here. I think Amber[LighT] is mafia.


No this is not true. Just because 1 lynch flipped a green instead of red I am automatically mafia?

The plan is that we still have shadowdrgn killed, or well he will not be alive for long. We can focus attention on other suspects for the next lynch and get more clue analysis done (which doesn't seem to get done in this thread). The decision was to lynch either Kuja or Kdog, but what I have been told is that Kuja is also being targeted with a bomb. I already know who I am hitting tonight. This lynch has helped us narrow the lists down significantly and our odds have increased. We have the ability to take out 3 mafia tonight and an additional tomorrow there is nothing to worry about this cuts their killing power by 2 (if all goes perfectly). There is a method to this madness.

So where have I been all game? I've been quiet because I have been behind the scenes making sure that I didn't get killed. You wonder how a vigi doesn't die? They don't speak up and make themselves obvious for the mafia, and you don't align yourself with people you can't trust. I was working with the Jack originally (he role-checked me) and I needed to make sure my identity was covered. Once he got killed I had to go to an alternate source and place a lot of trust in these individuals. I figure I have one hit left anyway I have to put trust in someone for a definite hit!


it just really bothers me that you come out of no where like that, after being nowhere all game, to sway us to lynch a green. you have to admit it doesn't look good. from my perspective, i have no idea if you are telling the truth or not, and the town is in a precarious position. in any case, we will find out tonight whether you are truthful (i hope you are).

i was too hasty to accuse in my post you quoted, sorry for that. i tend not to think things through enough before i say them.

edit: put in a space
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 21 2008 18:44 GMT
#965
On December 22 2008 03:19 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2008 02:51 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On December 22 2008 02:29 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On December 22 2008 02:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
hm
thought we had a decent shot with kdog as Chronus, even if the clues pointing to him also could have pointed to a few others

also guys, we don't know for sure if there are really bombs on kuja900 and ShadowDrgn. Amberlight hasn't posted much all game, has been on several peoples suspects (notably Caller, Showtime!), then comes out and says he is a vigi and was in contact with Caller before Caller died? Then he persuades us against lynching ShadowDrgn who we are fairly certain is red. I'm calling bullshit here. I think Amber[LighT] is mafia.


No this is not true. Just because 1 lynch flipped a green instead of red I am automatically mafia?

The plan is that we still have shadowdrgn killed, or well he will not be alive for long. We can focus attention on other suspects for the next lynch and get more clue analysis done (which doesn't seem to get done in this thread). The decision was to lynch either Kuja or Kdog, but what I have been told is that Kuja is also being targeted with a bomb. I already know who I am hitting tonight. This lynch has helped us narrow the lists down significantly and our odds have increased. We have the ability to take out 3 mafia tonight and an additional tomorrow there is nothing to worry about this cuts their killing power by 2 (if all goes perfectly). There is a method to this madness.

So where have I been all game? I've been quiet because I have been behind the scenes making sure that I didn't get killed. You wonder how a vigi doesn't die? They don't speak up and make themselves obvious for the mafia, and you don't align yourself with people you can't trust. I was working with the Jack originally (he role-checked me) and I needed to make sure my identity was covered. Once he got killed I had to go to an alternate source and place a lot of trust in these individuals. I figure I have one hit left anyway I have to put trust in someone for a definite hit!


it just really bothers me that you come out of no where like that, after being nowhere all game, to sway us to lynch a green. you have to admit it doesn't look good. from my perspective, i have no idea if you are telling the truth or not, and the town is in a precarious position. in any case, we will find out tonight whether you are truthful (i hope you are).

i was too hasty to accuse in my post you quoted, sorry for that. i tend not to think things through enough before i say them.

edit: put in a space



I'm not gonna sit here and try to convince you to not to think I'm mafia, but for the sake of the game if you have a chance can you please try to analyze the players on this list?

5/10 of this list are mafia.
Malongo - silenced,
ydg
kdog3683*dead*
meegrean
artanis[xp]
amber[light]
kuja900
Ver*dead
MidnightGladius
DecafChicken


Even me if need be please analyze clues to me

5/10 -> 4/7
Malongo - silenced - i had been suspicious of him early on, but going back reading through his posts i think he is a townie.
ydg - any clue would be from his quote "The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next." i don't see anything in the day posts except MAYBE the fight scene with Camulus and lakris in day 4.
kdog3683*dead*
meegrean
artanis[xp] - the only connection i can see is to Yu, because of the use of electricity and Artanis is a templar (psi storm). i think it's weak however.
amber[light] - you already know what i think of your posts this game. the only clues i find relating to you are the sunset clues mentioned before, however since they do not relate to any specific character i'm not confident in them.
kuja900 - people have already done analysis here. i never played ffix or whatever he's in, so i can't comment for sure on here.
Ver*dead*
MidnightGladius - has he posted at all yet? his name always comes up in mafia simply because of the word "Gladius," however there are also a lot of references in the Day posts to darkness i.e. midnight. For example, the darkening of the town hall and the pitch black warehouse. However, the 2 mafia in the warehouse were Yu and Apophis, and Apophis = dinmsab, and i can't see how MG can be connected to Yu's use of electricity.
DecafChicken - no idea about postings, he's been pretty inactive as well. his sig is "how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?" A clue that connects to this is Anubus hiding behind the firewood at the supermarket. Supermarkets sell food (duh!) and decafchicken has food references in his name, sig, and even profile. And the firewood is maybe a reference to his sig.

that's what i got with like 10 minutes. some of that i have already posted before, maybe you missed it otherwise i don't see why you'd want me to repeat myself. now i ask you: what's your take on the people on this 4/7 list, and what of my interpretations?
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 21 2008 20:03 GMT
#967
Well, Sir Fishball, this certainly is headache inducing. I suppose we are waiting on amber's reply now. Is the vigi that pm'd you on either of the dt vote lists?
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 21 2008 20:04 GMT
#968
actually i'm not sure if you should divulge that information :S
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 21 2008 20:56 GMT
#970
On December 22 2008 05:19 Fishball wrote:
It wouldn't really matter, as long as I don't say who. Just letting you know there is a conflict.

And from how I (and most of us) see this, the game should effectively end tonight.
Unless the Mafia decides to target the inactives.

Yeah. Even so we have 3 vets and a medic alive still, so it would take them a long time to win. Kind of like mafia 2 in a way.

Posting the lists for future reference. A * denotes somone i feel is suspicious.

2/21 are mafia

2. MyHeronoob
3. zeks
4. aznaliance*
5. Nevake
7. cynanmachae
10. clazziquai
12. vivi57
17. more_minerals
18. scaramanga
19. truthbringer
21. Qatol
23. Zbir
28. RebirthofLegend
29. softer*
30. ace
36. infundibulum
38. jeejee* (only because he keeps calling me mafia )
39. 0cz3c
40. randombum
44. venomo45
47. roffles

4/7 of this list are mafia.

Malongo
ydg
artanis[xp]* (i guess :S)
amber[light]*
kuja900*
MidnightGladius
DecafChicken*

(i can't make up my mind about these 4/7 people haha)

1/4 is mafia

Mynock
Folca
Nevake
Shadowdrgn*
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 22 2008 08:48 GMT
#995
I knew this day would come. Shoot, mafiosos. You will only have killed a man.
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 22 2008 08:54 GMT
#1001
On December 22 2008 17:53 MidnightGladius wrote:
Why meeeeee?


dunno but at least we got smashed together before kicking the bucket!
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 27 2008 08:24 GMT
#1155
how the fuck did oczec get lynched? i wish town wasn't so inactive/dumb this game
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-27 19:02:22
December 27 2008 18:58 GMT
#1201
Well gg. I was kinda frustrated this game. I honestly tried really hard to clue analyze and create discussion, but got like maybe 2-3 people responding with me. I was never part of any inner circle or anything, meaning my interpretations were only me based on the extremely little i could glean from the Day posts and a couple people's posting style. I was sure a couple of my clue connections were right, but nobody ever followed up on them after I died, being the obvious target I was. Then I got pissed at Amber for that whole bit, why would roleclaiming vigi having 1 hit left have mafia target you? It's funny in retrospect though, and cmon you can't blame me for thinking you're mafia

It's a very frustrating feeling for me, when my clue analysis etc. went largely ignored and nobody ever really discussed and then i get killed :s
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 27 2008 19:32 GMT
#1206
On December 28 2008 04:13 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2008 03:58 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Well gg. I was kinda frustrated this game. I honestly tried really hard to clue analyze and create discussion, but got like maybe 2-3 people responding with me. I was never part of any inner circle or anything, meaning my interpretations were only me based on the extremely little i could glean from the Day posts and a couple people's posting style. I was sure a couple of my clue connections were right, but nobody ever followed up on them after I died, being the obvious target I was. Then I got pissed at Amber for that whole bit, why would roleclaiming vigi having 1 hit left have mafia target you? It's funny in retrospect though, and cmon you can't blame me for thinking you're mafia

It's a very frustrating feeling for me, when my clue analysis etc. went largely ignored and nobody ever really discussed and then i get killed :s


haha I'm terribly sorry about misleading the town you can ask Qatol I felt bad doing what I did. I knew I would be under suspicion it didn't matter since I needed you guys to want to lynch me anyway. It was the only thing we could do to be clever was to have me roleclaim vigi :p


yeah it was a shitty situation and i definitely understand the angle you tried to play it from now. it's too bad i was an idiot about it during the game though!
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 27 2008 19:33 GMT
#1207
On December 28 2008 04:22 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2008 03:58 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Well gg. I was kinda frustrated this game. I honestly tried really hard to clue analyze and create discussion, but got like maybe 2-3 people responding with me. I was never part of any inner circle or anything, meaning my interpretations were only me based on the extremely little i could glean from the Day posts and a couple people's posting style. I was sure a couple of my clue connections were right, but nobody ever followed up on them after I died, being the obvious target I was. Then I got pissed at Amber for that whole bit, why would roleclaiming vigi having 1 hit left have mafia target you? It's funny in retrospect though, and cmon you can't blame me for thinking you're mafia

It's a very frustrating feeling for me, when my clue analysis etc. went largely ignored and nobody ever really discussed and then i get killed :s


Early on alot of your analysis was kind of garbage, no offense mate so we let you live then you started getting better and while the town didnt notice you the mafia sure did we lynched you to prevent your ideas from gaining ground.


haha none taken. i knew i was going to die after i had started making those lists, but was ok with that because i thought my death would ultimately help the town. but that's not really the way it worked out haha
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