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On December 17 2008 14:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Whens voting close BC?
Also that is weird that everyone gets told who is silenced. It makes the role less useful, if you silence someone important and then slam him, he can't defend himself. Which would help the mafia own people a lot. The only difference between this mafia and mafia 3 is the silencer. The silencer makes the mafia a little stronger when it was debated that the town was overpowered in mafia 3.
Rebirth is basically saying the silencer should be more powerful because the town is overpowered.
Even if attackzerg dies, the mafia will still have 4 killing power, therefore, I'm asking everyone to
Change your vote to RebirthOfLegend
A vigi can easily kill attackzerg who's guarenteed mafia. We should save killing him until it's useful for the town (when it will reduce his killing power).
a summary of clues against rebirth:
has been trying to discredit ace the whole game, probably to destroy any leadership the town has
Firewood -> fire -> rebirth, this fits in with the firewood display Anubus hid behind
Anubus is close to Anubis, the Egyptian god of death. Death leads to rebirth, just as Anubus leads to RebirthofLegend
Change your vote to RebirthOfLegend
There isn't much to be gained by lynching attackzerg today. The mafia will have 4 killing power regardless.
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On December 19 2008 09:40 TruthBringer wrote:
Killing attackzerg is still the way to go, because we want to kill a mafia for sure during the day and during the night. And the case against rebirthoflegend is underwhelming.
To shine a little more light upon rebirth, he was in the trust circle with Chaoser, Nevake, and AttackZerg. How do I know this? I was invited, but I declined because I didn't trust AttackZerg.
I think AttackZerg influenced the whole group to be very skeptical of Ace and that is why Rebirth was so anti-ace. Maybe Nevake can shed more light on what happened in that group, but I believe that AttackZerg was the only mafia there.
I'd like to hear more about this.
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I just finished the analysis an hour ago and was debating whether I should post it. Then I realized that even if we took attackzerg out, they would still have 4 killing power at night.
I had the list of clues, but didn't connect them to names until today. I suppose that's suspicious, but as I was going through names, everything fit into place around rebirth.
If you have stronger evidence for someone other than az, we should hit them during the day. I still think we should let the vigi get az since that's simple enough to do and he is guarenteed red. We should spend the day looking for other mafia rather than going after az.
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I actually posted them the page before, but noone seemed to see them.
AZ is being annoying as hell, trying to get us to waste our lynch on him rather than letting the vigi do it. If we let him get that, he'll have outplayed us even after he was a known mafia.
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you're right. I didn't think it through. If they have 7 after today, they'll have 4 kp tonight and by the time they get to the next night, they'll be down to 3 kp anyway.
Now that I think about it, it does make some sense to do that. If the mafia has the name of the other vigi, they're dead tonight and if they don't use their hit tonight, it's wasted.
Now, assuming they have to use it tonight, we could have them hit az and vote for someone else or we could vote for az and leave it up to a single person to decide who to hit tonight. I think voting for the non az mafia would give a better result than letting the vigi decide alone.
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On December 19 2008 10:40 AttackZerg wrote:
I am not mafia. I thought ace was smart enough to figure it out. I figured the only way to get mafia off of what we were doing was to confuse them.
My death will not be in vain. Ace Look at everybody who has posted since I first posted. Only mafia would feel the need to start contributing now, when they hadn't before!
Forget everything I said, he's pissing me off too, lynch him now.
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az just edited out all his posts
can we have him modkilled so we can look for someone else?
az: this is the worst coverup plan I've *ever* seen. Especially after you said you were mafia explicitly
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Shrug, you're dead anyway.
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On December 19 2008 12:24 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2008 12:24 0cz3c wrote:
Can you please answer my question? I think it would really help the town and would help prove your innocence? did you read the posts at all? lol
It won't help, he edited half of them out
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Mental notes taken of everyone who tried to derail the thread by going insane over a joke scara made.
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0z, you'd better wait another day before you decide you aren't mafia. One of the clues tomorrow might point to you. Don't pm yourself your role just in case.
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It's possible the mafia just don't want to be listchecked as easily and aren't voting because of that
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Yay, now we don't have to listen to him talk any more
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so right now:
strong:
more_minerals
0zc
moderate:
RebirthofLegend
Mynock
and I'm sure they have some behind the scenes
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Shit
they still have 4 kp because they recruited the silencer.
Our jack is gone too.
With ace and caller gone, we should either go for 0zc or more_minerals.
I think we should lynch more_minerals
I think the evidence against him is stronger, although if we lynch 0zc and he flips red, we have a massive list of innocents from his clue deciphering post.
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I don't think the clues are giving us anything new today
Camulus is doing the same things he's done before
On second thought, we should lynch 0cz3c
There's a huge chance he's mafia and if he flips red, we have a massive fake clue analysis that we can go off of.
Keep in mind he posted random crap for 40 pages, trying to derail the thread. Once we started accusing him directly, he posted some clue analysis.
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Does the last dt have a list check left?
The vote for Ace from yesterday is full of potential mafia names.
Based on what scara says, we should definitely lynch 0zc3c
There's a MASS of information to gain from his clue analysis and if he's red, that will be huge.
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I also want to know how we found out dinmsab
also, I found this as one of his earlier posts
On December 15 2008 06:50 dinmsab wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 03:01 Hyperbola wrote:
-also his name: Scaramanga, the liquid scars people, it even burns people's faces off.
-and also from his quote: "SaiR is next Bonjwa" it sounds a lot like “Your time of running things is over, our time is now”
It seems Scaramanga is actually our best bet to get a mafia.
AND ALSO
Everybody: switch your votes from folca! It does not matter how much of a jerk he was last game! With no clues against him, he is 80% most likely to be innocent. I was going to vote for Folca, but you Hyperbola changed my mind. Its true Folca is a jerk, but we cant just go kill off random townies if we're planning to win this. Good work Hyperbola. 
Someone should look into folca
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I did do clue analysis after day 3. Rebirthoflegend was the strongest thing I came up with.
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