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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
srsly now i'm actually going to sleep now hopefully society won't collapse by the time i get up. | ||
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delanZia
Australia34 Posts
a mafia (who all the BGs believe is a BG) becomes a spokesperson and the town gets into trouble, the only way to get round this is rolechecking the spokesperson, a worthwhile price to pay, if the spokesperson is mafia lynch the mayor first (unless for some reason he decides to call a double lynch..... but that’s just being spiteful). Then we'd have to decide what direction we wanted to go from there. I will admit I voted for Plexia but that was early on, I have been away from my computer for two days so threw a quick vote in then to prove activity. As I have mentioned in the profile blog if I am in fact mafia there is so little background info on me that the only possible clue for me would be an anagram of my ID (which ironically is an anagram of my name.) I am no good at analysing human behaviour and stuff, hopefully when the clues start rolling in I shall become more useful to the village | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
If Mafia Mayor leaves 1 BG out and puts their crony there, then there is one legit BG that didn't get messaged with the list of the other 4. Any BG that isn't messaged by MTF and Caller with the list of the other 4 BGs needs to speak up immediately. A rolecheck is not needed at all. | ||
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delanZia
Australia34 Posts
List 1, this gets sent to all the BGs on it BG1, BG2, BG3, M1, M2, list 2, gets sent to all the BGs on it BG4, BG5, M1, M2, M3, all the BGs get confirmation that everyone shares their list. M1 becomes spokesperson. it only really stands a chance with a traitor/godfather mayor but i can't see how it is accounted for in the plan without a DT check. Small chance but a huge risk imo. I could be flawed in my logic, this is my first mafia game. | ||
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blue_arrow
1971 Posts
On November 19 2008 17:58 delanZia wrote: 5 BG 3 mafia, its big for the mafia but has large potential for working. I will label them B1-5 and M1-3 List 1, this gets sent to all the BGs on it BG1, BG2, BG3, M1, M2, list 2, gets sent to all the BGs on it BG4, BG5, M1, M2, M3, all the BGs get confirmation that everyone shares their list. M1 becomes spokesperson. it only really stands a chance with a traitor/godfather mayor but i can't see how it is accounted for in the plan without a DT check. Small chance but a huge risk imo. I could be flawed in my logic, this is my first mafia game. wow never thought about it that way, that's really good but... because of this unique situation we have here, where MTF is apparently not taking on the actual duties of mayor; he's passed them on to Caller. Apparently, according to Caller, he's already recieved the list of BG's. So assuming that MTF is godtraitor, as well as Caller being a godfather/traitor, which would suck dick + might as well surrender, then the double list would go through. But wouldn't the probability of that happening be like, i dont know, near zero? i have no mathematical idea. but the thing is, the moment, say, BG4 is killed, his role is then revealed, then BGs 123 would instantly know they were tricked. hmm, i guess your double list idea would help the mafia delay how long it would take for them to be discovered, initially that is, but after that initial period, their chances of being discovered would be much higher due to the higher risk of a BG/fake BG getting killed... | ||
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lakrismamma
Sweden543 Posts
On November 19 2008 09:08 0cz3c wrote: That wasn't a rhetorical question. What you did is a "by the book" exchange by a mafia member. First, as I was asserting that I am a green townie (I'd like to take the time here to sway those thinking that I may be part of the mafia conspiracy: I am not. I am a green townie. Please don't lynch me. I can help the town do good. It's suspicious and pernicious people like lakris that are not helping the town. But although I'm just a green townie, I am helping the town in every way I can), you claimed that I was trolling. Not only that, you proceeded to call me, "he." You can't just ignore the little guy in this game. I won't let you! What I asked you, sir, was not at all a rhetorical question. I ask you, once again, why, oh why, did you not address me directly, oh lakrismafia? I thought you where torlling because you mentioned that yu where innocent or a townie 7 times in your first 2 posts. After this last one I either have to say that you are stupid or mafia... On November 18 2008 08:34 0cz3c wrote: MTF makes a good point. ... I just want you guys to know that I'm a townie this game. I know it's a leap of faith. There's the chance that I can be a mafia or a blue. But I'm not. I have no special role outside of being a townie. There's even the chance that I'm a Don or a traitor (because I'm a green, I'll appear innocent, obviously, but so will the don and the traitors). Nevertheless, I'm saying this now so that you're all aware that my sole goal is to help the town to victory. I will help the town in more ways than one. Just trust me that I'm not a red. I'll show up innocent on the lists because I am innocent, and I'll be ready and able to do everything I can to lead the town to victory! On November 18 2008 08:54 0cz3c wrote: Which is why I'm posting. I'm just a townie, so there's no reason I shouldn't be posting right now in order to further the town's search for static order. Those green townies not saying anything right now are really being a distraction for the town. Once again, I'm not in mafia. I'm not a blue. I'm a plain, old, green townie. No reason to doubt my tokens of help here. We (the town) needs everyone to help (that is innocent, of course). Being green, I'm not worth much to either the town or mafia. Please don't kill me. We need to unite and kill off the two sets of scum before they get to kill us off. Furthermore, we need to attempt to arouse confusion among them so that they begin to kill off their own members. So to sum it all up, I guess it all comes down to me being innocent. Please don't kill me. I know that I can find some way, whether it is clue or behavioral analyses, activity, or reason, to help the town. I'm ready and able to do everything I can to lead the town to victory! | ||
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softer
Norway104 Posts
On November 19 2008 17:58 delanZia wrote: 5 BG 3 mafia, its big for the mafia but has large potential for working. I will label them B1-5 and M1-3 List 1, this gets sent to all the BGs on it BG1, BG2, BG3, M1, M2, list 2, gets sent to all the BGs on it BG4, BG5, M1, M2, M3, all the BGs get confirmation that everyone shares their list. M1 becomes spokesperson. it only really stands a chance with a traitor/godfather mayor but i can't see how it is accounted for in the plan without a DT check. Small chance but a huge risk imo. I could be flawed in my logic, this is my first mafia game. I've been thinking along the same lines. I didnt read the bg-plan throughly, but couldnt a mafia mayor send a list to each bg with his name plus 4 mafia members? | ||
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HeRoS)Pink
Canada336 Posts
On November 19 2008 22:16 softer wrote: I've been thinking along the same lines. I didnt read the bg-plan throughly, but couldnt a mafia mayor send a list to each bg with his name plus 4 mafia members? but what you seem to forget is that all bgs goes into an irc channel so they would know something fishy is going on, | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Hell, when I first entered that irc channel in game 2. The first thing I asked was: why isn't this channel protected and why the fuck are all you guys using your Teamliquid IDs? It gave me a good laugh. The only good thing that came out of that scenario is the fact Ace never trusted randombum to begin with. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
On November 19 2008 08:45 Qatol wrote: You can only vote check on lynches. We can't vote check the mayoral race That doesn't mean we cannot persuade the voters from the elections to vote a certain way in Day 1. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
On November 19 2008 13:07 LucasWoJ wrote: Really? I was getting the opposite sentiment. I have a feeling that at least one of them is. Besides Caller, everyone's been extremely quiet. MTF hasn't been even telling us what we should do or what to expect (And he's the mayor for crying out loud!); Plexa's disappeared entirely (I guess to be fair, he's sleeping, but he didn't say much when he was on. I guess that's still unfair, but you get the point). Clazziquai has completely disappeared. Ver isn't saying much either. :/ MTF wrote this before. He said he'd like someone like Caller to run the show based on past performance and his platform. We have enough people working behind the scenes already. Everything will be checked soon. | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
On November 19 2008 09:16 0cz3c wrote: Caller, I apologize. My only goal is to help the town. If I didn't achieve that, then I once again apologize. I felt I was making a ready connection, a psychological connection, and a fruitful venture into what was said before. I know that when I was mafia (not this game, here I'm a green townie!) last time, fellow mafia mates posted similarly to lakris. The fact that the fellow has not replied to my inquiry has only expanded my initial suspicions, so I'm revealing it once again to the town. In the hopes of establishing reason as the order of the town, I hope, as a green townie, to organize the town to victory. I'm sorry if you feel I made no contribution to the town, but know this: right now, it is my only role and my only desire. Feeling guilty that you will have innocent green blood on your hands? :p | ||
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Kweezy
United States31 Posts
On November 19 2008 17:58 delanZia wrote: 5 BG 3 mafia, its big for the mafia but has large potential for working. I will label them B1-5 and M1-3 List 1, this gets sent to all the BGs on it BG1, BG2, BG3, M1, M2, list 2, gets sent to all the BGs on it BG4, BG5, M1, M2, M3, all the BGs get confirmation that everyone shares their list. M1 becomes spokesperson. it only really stands a chance with a traitor/godfather mayor but i can't see how it is accounted for in the plan without a DT check. Small chance but a huge risk imo. I could be flawed in my logic, this is my first mafia game. Your logic isn't flawed, but this still doesn't work for them. Let's say they thy this plan and a BG is lynched or killed. Going by your plan, that BG wouldn't be on everyone's list. Then the real BG's just need to speak up and say that the list is corrupt and so is our Mayor. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On November 19 2008 17:58 delanZia wrote: 5 BG 3 mafia, its big for the mafia but has large potential for working. I will label them B1-5 and M1-3 List 1, this gets sent to all the BGs on it BG1, BG2, BG3, M1, M2, list 2, gets sent to all the BGs on it BG4, BG5, M1, M2, M3, all the BGs get confirmation that everyone shares their list. M1 becomes spokesperson. it only really stands a chance with a traitor/godfather mayor but i can't see how it is accounted for in the plan without a DT check. Small chance but a huge risk imo. I could be flawed in my logic, this is my first mafia game. this is flawed because i pmed all the bgs if a bg didn't get my pm they should have spoken up by now. | ||
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Kweezy
United States31 Posts
On November 20 2008 00:41 Caller wrote: this is flawed because i pmed all the bgs if a bg didn't get my pm they should have spoken up by now. No. He's saying you could have PM'd all the BGs, but each BG could have gotten a different list with Mafia members on it. | ||
Ninja4ever.
France231 Posts
Edit : Well, I read again and it wouldn't work. | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On November 20 2008 01:34 Ninja4ever. wrote: And what if the BGs send the list they recieved to each other ? If the lists are different, they'd know something is wrong, or i am mistaken ? Edit : Well, I read again and it wouldn't work. i sent one list if the list is different for a bg something's up | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
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