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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
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KlassyK
United States18 Posts
On November 18 2008 06:41 MrBabyHands wrote: i would naturally be more suspicious of the person who said it 2nd than the person who said it first. naturally...though i kinda think she was just being lazy... Mischief: Hey, I like what KlassyK wrote! I'll just quote her! (without using the quote function :-/) but still...wtf man... | ||
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MrBabyHands
United States72 Posts
On November 18 2008 06:46 KlassyK wrote: naturally...though i kinda think she was just being lazy... Mischief: Hey, I like what KlassyK wrote! I'll just quote her! (without using the quote function :-/) but still...wtf man... so versatile told me you're a chick and you put out. whats good? | ||
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TruthBringer
United States578 Posts
I think KlassyK and Mischief are very suspicious as MTF pointed out and if you think about it, KlassyK's interpretation of what Mischief was doing doesn't make sense. Mafia never want to draw attention to themselves, so Mischief wouldn't imitate Klassy's post just to get Klassy killed, because if Klassy turned up townie, it would instantly implicate Mischief. There is a possibility that they coincidentally had very, very similar voting posts independently, but to me it seems they were given instruction from Plexa to vote the way they did and followed through with it. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
I'm your traitor! I'm sending this to everyone on the list Ace sent me because I don't know who is online right now or who I should message about coordinating things. Are we going to set up an IRC channel, forum, or just PM back and forth? Since you don't get sent my name on the list, I wanted to make sure I was in the loop early on and not killed off in a hit. -SD" This has probably been mentioned before, but he could potentially be a mafioso trying to sniff out blue roles (if the receiver is stupid enough). I'm not sure what the purpose of such a message was besides his own amusement. As I'm a little busy, Showtime, are you running for mayor? I remember you from the second game, and I'd trust you with it. Who are the candidates? | ||
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Folca
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
i've skimmed most of this, will make a decision in a little bit | ||
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caelym
United States6424 Posts
On November 18 2008 06:55 LucasWoJ wrote: "Hi guys, I'm your traitor! I'm sending this to everyone on the list Ace sent me because I don't know who is online right now or who I should message about coordinating things. Are we going to set up an IRC channel, forum, or just PM back and forth? Since you don't get sent my name on the list, I wanted to make sure I was in the loop early on and not killed off in a hit. -SD" This has probably been mentioned before, but he could potentially be a mafioso trying to sniff out blue roles (if the receiver is stupid enough). I'm not sure what the purpose of such a message was besides his own amusement. As I'm a little busy, Showtime, are you running for mayor? I remember you from the second game, and I'd trust you with it. Who are the candidates? I believe the candidates are Clazziquai, Caller, Ver, MTF, and Plexa right now... Seeing as this is my first time doing TL mafia, I really don't trust any of them. I'm really suspicious of Caller and Clazziquai (and those that votes for them really fast)... too many agendas floating around I'm going to abstain from this vote | ||
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KlassyK
United States18 Posts
On November 18 2008 06:51 MrBabyHands wrote: so versatile told me you're a chick and you put out. whats good? lmao! i am a chick, but i don't go around all willy nilly putting out...sowwy! | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Looks like this game will go by fairly quick, so please try to check the thread every morning and night. The voting supposedly ends tomorrow. It's a blitzkrieg version of Mafia. NOTE: Clazz is no longer running. He mentioned that earlier on. | ||
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TruthBringer
United States578 Posts
Plexa's campaign has recently come under a lot of suspicion for mafia ties. If you are going to vote please vote responsibly and at least check out some of the posts from and about the candidates. | ||
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0cz3c
United States564 Posts
He's talking considerably more this game than last. This leads me to believe that he's himself again (by this I mean not mafia). Of the choices that I see listed, I think his is the safest by far. In terms of who I trust, I'd have to turn to Ver. He seems to be doing what Ace did two games ago. His insights thus far have only been beneficial for the town. | ||
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KlassyK
United States18 Posts
On November 18 2008 06:54 TruthBringer wrote: ## I vote for Caller for the office of mayor. I think KlassyK and Mischief are very suspicious as MTF pointed out and if you think about it, KlassyK's interpretation of what Mischief was doing doesn't make sense. Mafia never want to draw attention to themselves, so Mischief wouldn't imitate Klassy's post just to get Klassy killed, because if Klassy turned up townie, it would instantly implicate Mischief. There is a possibility that they coincidentally had very, very similar voting posts independently, but to me it seems they were given instruction from Plexa to vote the way they did and followed through with it. well, considering the fact that i have no idea where she was coming from with that (as i said before), i was attempting to make sense of what she was doing...weighing the options, so to speak... if you'll check a post i made a few seconds later, i also said that maybe she was just being lazy... also, if Plexa was instructing her/us to vote a certain way, do you really believe that's how it would happen? retarded isn't a strong enough word for a move like that if all 3 of us were mafia... and in direct response to the part that i bolded above...a GOOD mafia player could get me killed based on that...then, when i flipped green or blue, they could talk their way out of it...if you've played this game before i'm sure you've seen people convince the town that they made an innocent mistake... | ||
GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
it seems like most other people trust his judgement, and that's good enough for me. MTF and ver seem to have their hearts in the right place, and are participating a lot as well. Any of the three is probably a good choice. I would want plexa, but the rest of the thread is making me suspicious | ||
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
First of all let me say (from experience) the pardoner role is useless except for giving somebody protection. The town should come to a general consensus on whom to lynch and the pardoner should have 0 reason to pardon. At least without getting lynched the next day. That said, I think Caller or mtf would be good candidates to get into mayor/pardoner role. This is based off of their past experience and proven ability for clue analysis. I didn't include plexa because of the suspicious copy/paste voting. Although someone of his caliber could be good too. New to the scene is Ver, he has presented a different plan which seems quite useful. However I see several flaws with it. The problem with this is that it needs ALL the medic protection. There is only 5 already, and the mafia could still easily the bg with their combined power of 20 kills. True, it would take the mafia 5 kills per BG if they want to focus him down, but if they pick off just 1 or 2 medics off sheer luck with the other 15 kills then it gets easier and easier to kill BGs. The town will be out a central organized government after 5 days. (Cannot argue that after the first BG is publicly declared he could pm the next bg in line to everyone, because the mafia would undoubtedly false claim something and they would know another bg) Granted the first BG could split the list he pms into four groups and use that to narrow down the amount of mafia, but if there is more than one mafia role-claimed then that's just a day shorter for mafia to finish off the town's defenses. But if we give the mayor/pardoner (most likely mayor, but perhaps both if dts can verify them both) the information they can live until all their bgs die. (which should be much longer than 5 days) And this still gives them the liberty of 5 medics to defend other roles. Still, this runs the 4.8% chance that its somebody who bypasses DT's abilities. I'd take that chance though. Because out of the players playing only 5 or so would even be qualified to be as acting mayor. Caller/plexa/mtf/others/ver/me? (but again, plexa would be a bad choice because of suspicious actions by others.) The chances of 5 specific people out of 84 getting a specific role which they only have 5% to get is so minuscule that i think it is far better to assume they are town and keep a government for as long as possible. Though the odds are slightly higher if mafia are happy to get AOC in, but if they do both mayor or bg plan get pwned anyways. In addition, assuming the unlikely happens and mayor/pardoner got a traitor/godfather role, I cannot see an easy way they could mislead the town. (if they lie about information they got the DT could come out and tell the town that this is a godfather/traitor). Also, even IF a mafia mayor was elected leaked information will not cost the town the game if they are organized for the first 10 days. (see game 2 with /whois empyrean irc and plexa's found edited post.) The mafia got the entire blue list, but couldn't win because clue analysis was too strong and they had organized enough to list check alot (Although that could be considered a broken skill, and it has been changed to only 1 list check) The thing with elders is that they can hopefully remain anonymous/alive until the BG/mayor/pardoner positions have been taken out. (which I think would be the mafia's main goal. That and other blues) What makes elders so powerful is that even AFTER the real government dies they can step up and organize the town for a day. That is a useful suggestion which we used in the first game. So I would encourage this if we ever get to a point where the government is dead, but we still have enough blues that organization would be useful. Same for vets, although they are more difficult to prove innocence. I'd also advocate lynching one of the two who copy/pasted each other for plexa. That and the fact that plexa hasn't said anything else seems like he is trying to lay low. Lynching one of the new comers will show us whether or not plexa is likely to be mafia. (If they are green he is less likely green, if they are red, he is more likely red.) Longish post aside I'm going to reserve my vote to get caller and MTF into office because I would be happy with both of them in either role. (I'm leaning towards MTF because he may have found 4 mafia already lolz) | ||
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KlassyK
United States18 Posts
however (since everybody seems to be ignoring this) if all 3 of us were mafia WHAT SENSE WOULD THAT MOVE MAKE??? clearly, all it does is implicate 3 people! anyone who has ever played this game before should be able to see that! is plexa mafia? i don't know is mischief mafia? i don't know am i mafia? no, but i wouldn't expect anybody to believe me at this point my point is, there's no way all 3 of us are mafia and to think so based on what has transpired is illogical... sidenote: as i said before, once i leave work and have time to thoroughly read the discussions for a mayor, i may change my vote... | ||
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
On November 18 2008 07:40 KlassyK wrote: well, this is just swell...because of a newbie's goofy mistake (or elaborate mafia plan, i dunno) i'm suspect... however (since everybody seems to be ignoring this) if all 3 of us were mafia WHAT SENSE WOULD THAT MOVE MAKE??? clearly, all it does is implicate 3 people! anyone who has ever played this game before should be able to see that! is plexa mafia? i don't know is mischief mafia? i don't know am i mafia? no, but i wouldn't expect anybody to believe me at this point my point is, there's no way all 3 of us are mafia and to think so based on what has transpired is illogical... sidenote: as i said before, once i leave work and have time to thoroughly read the discussions for a mayor, i may change my vote... It is only possible that all three of you are mafia if both you and mischief made the mistake of saying something you both read in mirrored words. While I agree with you that this assumes a certain level of stupidity that you would both do this, it is still a possibility that the mistake was made. That said, I'd call for the mayor to lynch mischief and depending on her flip, go from there. Which, I'm sorry to say, if she's red would probably mean lynching you. But if you are red, then that means we either have a AoC or Godfather in Plexa out of the game within the first few days. If you aren't, then Plexa is off the hook for a bit, and we know mischief was setting you up. Either way, the most information comes from killing off mischief first and going from there. | ||
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LucasWoJ
United States936 Posts
## I vote Ver for mayor. | ||
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