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On October 25 2008 18:46 Bockit wrote: It's ok I'm pretty sure plexa will die either first night or first lynch  omg no let him live till day 3 plz T_T | ||
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1.) I'm going with Emp on the we need a plan idea. Of course it has to be decentralized in a way that the suicide bomber can't do too much damage. I've got a little something in mind, but I haven't found a safe way to implement it, yet. 2.) We don't have too many clues. I think the decaf clue is ridiculously obvious, and that he's a surefire target. However, remember the best way to actually lynch someone is not only clues but on behavior also. 3.) The lynching inactives plan I like. It's a small game, so chances of hitting mafia are slightly increased. Also with a smaller game going "silent" isn't easy and everyone will be scared of the random lynch so they must post. More coming soon. | ||
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With no Mayor, Pardoners and bodyguards we already know that we can't look to anyone for guidance. Of course, assuming some of the people with certain roles are going to take leadership positions - we really don't have to. Who am I talking about? Vets and Jack of All Trades. Why these 2? When the mafia hit someone and they don't die 1 of 2 things happens: A.) They are a Vet, and just lose a life B.) They are a protected by a medic, in which the medic gets a notification C.) the smart medic informs the person they were targeted, hoping it wasn't a vigi hitting mafia What we are interested in is A. When the mafia realizes their kill hasn't gone through, they have to assume it's A or B. HOWEVER, in this game when no one trusts anyone else off the bat - what would you assume? How can a medic find the right target to protect so early? Or what IF the medic did find the right target? The mafia have NO way of finding out. That target speaks up. Dts check and no DTs speak up ensuring the guy is legit. Now the mafia have a problem. All the medics and Jacks can PM this guy. He on the other hand can tell them not to prot him or can ask them and all the Jacks to prot him making him invincible from mafia hits. THIS IS THE KEY! Remember the mafia STILL don't know this guy's role. Now the town has a leader, a very big target that may or may not be protected. And they want to use their suicide bomber on him. They dont know if he is being ultra protected or not, if he's a Jack or a Vet and how many lives he has. If the suicide bomber FAILS, the medics are all alive, he dies but NOW at least one of the DTs can come forward and be protected by all the Medics and Jacks. From here we now have a system where in 1 person is the "leader" but can't be easily killed. As always, I'm sure this plan can be rectified. Give feedback please. | ||
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On November 03 2008 01:02 fanatacist wrote: This. Wouldn't it be safer to lynch the person he spoke up about, and if he DOESN'T come up red then lynch the DT? By lynching the DT you have a 1:1 ratio of blue : red losses at best. With the idea I just posted, a DT who has verified himself by giving a red name could keep producing results, thus being far more useful to the town than was if he was dead. It would also take away the whole sacrifice element that would prevent DTs from speaking up; I think they would become relative loners and would try to make posts that are convincing but not too convincing, acting as one of the analysts, in order to hide their role, and their factual knowledge of who is mafia and who isn't could be lost. to clarify my previous post: We can't do this. If the mafia know we would lynch the person the DT accuses first, they'll obviously false claim and get the innocent Vet/Jack lynched amd sac themselves for the profit. If mafia know the DT is going to be lynched anyway, they will hesitate to false claim because the guy would flip red, and the accused is most likely legit so he died for nothing. We have to make sure everyone knows the DT WILL be lynched proactively. | ||
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On November 03 2008 01:21 Falcynn wrote: I'm pretty sure they can, but that's irrelevant. I'll give an example of what I mean. Mafia1 claims to be veteran. Mafia2 claims to be a detective who role checked Mafia1 and found out the he's mafia. The town rallies to lynch Mafia1, he turns up red and the town assumes that Mafia2 must be a detective since he was right. Do you see how that can be dangerous? which I'm sure they'll do. There's no way to keep the cycle of checks going to verify the entire circle without wasting DT power. | ||
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On November 03 2008 02:26 Empyrean wrote: My plan is much the same as the Mandalor plan of last game, which is to have two groups of people vote for the two top suspects. We'll have this go on for a few days, while the detectives take turns alternating checking the lists while the last detective checks one at random each night. After, say, four lynch votes, the detectives will reveal their list of how many mafia voted for each candidate, and we can use simple math from there. At this point, the two original DTs reveal their lists (and will likely be killed) while the third just waits. If any mafia decide to claim DT and give a conflicting view, the third DT will speak up. He'll likely get killed the next night as well. But still, once all the detectives are dead, we will have six-eight Mandalor style lists, as well as the names of any mafia who roleclaimed DT (since the DTs are dead, anyone who gave conflicting information by roleclaming DT will logically be mafia). Jack of All Trades? | ||
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Same trap as always, no verification and easy to break  As for the lynching idea - we don't have to lynch anyone. There isn't a rule that says we have to vote. In theory it accomplishes something: 1.) Everyone abstains and no one dies 2.) Anyone that tries to vote at the last minute is more than likely mafia It's a start, but I'm not comfortable with it. I'm more interested in going after the inactive list to force everyone to post. Of course the game is still young so people need time to chime in. | ||
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Ok who do the 3 DTs report to? Assume the plan is "all 3 DTs PM their lists to random townies and have them mouth the findings" 1.) assume none of the townies are mafia In this case, all the DT findings look legit through the innocent townie but you can't tell if the DT is innocent himself. Or the mafia posing as townie is just giving good info to build trust when there is no DT telling him anything. How do we overcome this? 2.) assume the DT is mafia All he has to do is keep misreporting vote checks. This is going to be hard to punish if all the DTs are randomly vote checking lists because we'd have to hope for a collision. | ||
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If he dies, I say we go with that plan. My current plan is one in which the Mafia can't safely use their suicide bomber. Really, that role is the only reason we can't take leaps of trust and the fact that fake DTs will check stuff anyway). | ||
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On November 03 2008 11:32 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Fair enough, i see how that does destroy things, I am glad i didn't think of something overall retarded though. Guess we now have to find a way to lure the suicide bomber out then. I've been thinking about it, but can't find anything else. That's actually how I came about with my plan to give mafia a dilemma while still giving our lynchpin a chance to lure out the suicide bomber. Once he is gone, DTs and Jacks have a lot more freedom to act. | ||
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but of course we'll do as you say and see what goes from there. | ||
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at least sound sure of yourself ## I vote to lynch Folca | ||
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@Emp: see my original strategy. Play the mind game and hope it doesn't happen. @Folca: no, but you haven't even used one yet have you? | ||
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If you have a DT, and 2 "heads" of the town who do you honestly think is going to be killed? The DT. The "heads" can talk all day, but since they are not DTs they don't have 100% credibility on facts even if they are proven innocent. | ||
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Ok let's assume I'm mafia right now. 1.) What does that have to do with Midnight Gladius? 2.) Prove my strats are corrupt. Go ahead, I'm waiting. | ||
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I think if you want to use lists, instead of making it even, uneven the list so Folca is lynched no matter what but you have lop-sided lists with one very small one. | ||
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If decaf flips red - great we have mafia. If he doesn't, we move on to Night1/Day2 down a townie with no obvious information. If we lynch Folca, when he flips red we have a mafia and a motive for his accusations on myself and MG. We can also move on with the plan to lynch decaf at this point. One situation is an ABSOLUTE benefit for the town while the other is probable and based on an incomplete clue. I say we lynch Folca and stick with it. | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:09 Chezinu wrote: So if Folca flips green, now we know to kill decaf and Ace erm, yea I guess | ||
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On November 03 2008 14:33 Caller wrote: the jet pilots waveddedededed sharif dont like it rock the casbah rock the casbah sharif dont like it rock the casbah rock the casbah Fight the man! Overthrow authority! Don't Trust Nobody but Yourself! ANARCHY (A) oh really? | ||
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Mafia wouldn't kill Folca tonight. Leaving him alive forces the town to lynch him tomorrow. Whether he gets a role check in again or a vote check in again means nothing if there are only two lists to check. So you'd actually just be starting from scratch, and taking chances on decaf's unfulfilled clue. Thats the problem people have - your long term plan isn't really long term. You HAVE to lynch Folca tomorrow anyway and he can't do a vote check when he's dead can he? So you might as well go the sure fire route and lynch him today because between me and him, you KNOW one of us is mafia. | ||
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With decaf there isn't. The clue pointing to him is really not even that deep. Just like last game when the town has no idea what to do, we start lynching people and hope they turn red. This time, we know for a fact that either myself or Folca is going to flip red and it sounds like you guys are banking on the fact that he flips blue. And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying? | ||
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And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying? someone address this issue please, because no one has explained yet how they rae so sure decaf is going to flip red when we already have a collision going on. | ||
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You and Alventenie are BANKING on the best case scenario when you have no idea whether decaf is gonna flip or not. Did any of you cite any DT investigation into decaf? No. Your whole thing is "I think this clue fits him", and neither of you are even known for being great at clue analysis. Thats why I'm not buying it. And of course I'm sure you would say that. Me defending decaf paints both of us mafia. So lynch me first now, instead of Folca even though the burden of proof is on him and he has nothing to do with decaf. Right. Makes perfect sense don't you think? | ||
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In fact, I find it surprising that even in the face of a move that makes no sense on things you can't prove your trying to dupe us. 1.) You claimed Detective and said you investigated me. 2.) You call out MidnightGladius as a top suspect. 3.) You vote to lynch decaf based on Emp and Alventenie's reasoning? How does this add up? You go from saying your SURE I'm mafia, to accusing MG, to voting for decaf all on a bandwagon. Thing is if you really are a DT you could have only used your powers ONCE. So how can you be going after THREE people? You can't even claim that you are a fake DT or that another DT checked you because you would be lying - because you couldn't check me and you couldn't check that other DT to see if their mafia using you as a puppet. So that idea is out of the window. In fact, it's not that many people that are voting to lynch decaf - it was a bandwagon started by Emp and Alventenie hoping you didn't get lynched, and Emp abandoned it. In fact, no DT has come forward to say that decaf IS mafia. So why is the town bandwagoning him? It makes much more sense for the town to resolve the situation between you and I before going off on lynching someone we are not sure is mafia. But the bottom line remains: Why are you so strong in thinking that the three of us are mafia when you could only have possibly used ONE role check? Answer - you're not. | ||
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On November 03 2008 22:33 Folca wrote: 1) I did investigate you 2) MidnightGladius is a top suspect, because I Know you are a part of the mafia 3) We lynch decaf because of how everyone says that the clues lead to him who is everyone folca? I'm waiting. | ||
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No one else matters at this point because no one else has anything strong enough that gives us a chance of finding mafia. Emp, can you answer my question. | ||
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Have you a found a clue that points to me? no Have you found out a way to see if Folca is legit? no And logic dictates that if anyone steps up as a DT and accuses someone and their validity can't be proven then they get lynched because otherwise mafia will always fake claim DT with no consequence. You guys are making no sense and you know it. It's like no matter what the best possible move is the plan is to lynch decaf. | ||
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4.) Folca is lying about being a DT, but is a normal townie used as a front by a legit DT 5.) Folca is lying about being a DT, but is being used by a fake DT mafia to get me lynched 6.) same as 6, but I'm mafia and it's just a super scheme The one thing about it is you can't call the motivation for it. You just don't know. The one standard is you HAVE to lynch the guy who is accusing because we can't PROVE he is a DT. If you lynch me and when I flip green, you lynch him who do you think won out? All of you keep looking at one side of the equation but conveniently ignore the other. And not a single one of you can tell me why he is a DT besides the same excuse " what reason does he have to lie?" By that very train of logic don't you think mafia would do it then? Next, the issue of "these other alleged mafia". Just because someone says they are a DT it does not mean any analysis or guesswork they do becomes credible. Unless they explicitly say they've investigated someone then it isn't a fact. How can four people miss this? The votes to lynch Folca are not what's suspicious around here, it's you guys. | ||
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We either dont lynch or go for what we have: the collision between myself and Folca. you're right, the clue could relate to me and it could relate to fakesteve. Having a public available DT when there's a suicide bomber means that the DT won't be available for much longer. | ||
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wouldn't the medics have to chance his protection? Remember the medics probably dont know who each other, so it would all be on blind trust. Knowing that, they can even bank on the fact that all the medics wont protect Folca out of fear and just stack hits to kill him. Either way, how does that justify killing decaf when no one can say with certainty he is mafia? | ||
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Think about it. A few people are ignoring the fact that lynching myself or Folca is a sure fire way to get rid of 1 mafia in favor of killing a potential innocent because "The mafia wouldn't fake that DT claim". How is this making sense to anyone? It's the same 4 people saying it, and not ONE of them can tell the town how decaf's clue is strong enough to lynch him and how Folca can be proven to be a DT. It's not adding up at all. | ||
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Let's do a short recap: Early in the game we start coming up with plans. There was a plan to lynch inactives. Some peopel supported this as with barely any clues it's the best shot we'd have. The decaf clue comes out, but it's not getting much attention. Folca calls me out as mafia and claims DT. In the midst of this, he goes on to paint decaf and Midnight Gladius. At this point, it's obvious there is a collision so Folca or myself have to be lynched. It's the ONLY sure thing the town has. Emp and Alventenie ignore this and push for Decaf to be lynched on the strength that it might work out. No one can prove that Folca is a legit DT, and no one can get anything except coffee = decafchicken as their best clue. BloddyCobbler even pointed out that the clue could point to several other people but it is conveniently ignored. Folca messes up on how the rules of the game work, and well that just shoots some of his accusations down the drain. At the end of it we have a few people trying to push to lynch Decaf when after pages of asking not ONE of you can answer the question: How do you know Decaf is Mafia? It's sickening because if decaf flips green, and then I flip green what would you have to say? Stop trying to double think the mafia motive and just go for what's best for the town. | ||
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No one knows if Folca is for real, which is the whole point of lynching him first. Thats the whole damn reason I'm advocating his lynch, besides the most obvious point that I'm the one he accused. Stop asking stupid questions. | ||
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Folca accused ME, I didn't accuse him. Keep this point in mind, because this is the whole entire basis of the logic tree. Folca'a DT status can't be proven. We have no idea who the other DTs investigated, and we have no clue if they are going to hold off on any info knowing the truth about Folca's role (akin to what people said that if Folca was a real DT, he wouldn't have rushed this so fast). It does not matter what kind of long term scenario you are thinking about, how many possible outcomes this can flip, who benefits the town more - FORGET IT. You have to lynch the accuser that can't be verified. It's the only move that makes sense. It's day one of the game, anyone can claim anything and there aren't enough clues to make anyone's case stronger. You lynch the guy who is accusing, depending on what he flips the town takes action on the one who didn't get lynched. Lynch me first, I flip green/blue and the mafia laugh as you've not only lost a strong player, but you can't use the plan I came up with, you know Folca is red but you are no closer to finding out any other critical info about the rest of the mafia since possibly innocent townies are duped into the backwards logic several people have been using and it's a big mess to figure out. A lot of people have been blindly supporting Folca's logic on the off chance that he COULD be blue - but it doesn't matter because you have to do the most sound plan that helps the town. Lynch me first, I flip red and great! Folca would still die at night without killing the mafia Killing Power, and he can't use any more role checks. Lynch Folca first, he flips blue/green. Well, that would be nasty but then you know for sure I'm mafia.Then you can question why I've defended decaf and Midnight Gladius all you want but it should be obvious why I have. Lynch Folca first, he flips red. Great! We move on with the game and try to find out why players who couldn't have known so much info blindly supported Folca when he even messed up his reasoning a few times and named several players off of one role check. Now out of these 4 situations which ones make SENSE? The last 2. Because the burden of proof is on Folca, NOT me. Like I've said before, trying to ask "but why would mafia do that?" is pointless. It's day one, you can't possibly have any idea what their motives are because no one has died yet. Do the logical move, not the hopeful one. When I flip green/blue a lot of people are gonna be sorry. | ||
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Decaf did not die because of the coffee clue last game. Stop using this argument Folca. Decaf died because he misreported info to me when I was mayor, and along with the irc thing we assumed he had to be mafia. Thats why decaf died, we did it. Also there are not "several" clues pointing to me. There is one loose interpretation that the authority figure mentioned in the OP is referring to me. Also Folca I was not the one who called you on your flawed logic, I didn't even post till the next page. Get your facts straight. | ||
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You seem so sure Folca is telling the truth, blind trust huh? | ||
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edit: well, assuming the DT was legit. If Folca was green and randomly trusted some guy who said"Ace is mafia because I said, lulz" that would be ridiculous. | ||
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I think :/ wtf what movie was that from... | ||
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If I was mafia, would I ever make it that obvious? | ||
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As the biggest threat, I obviously would be the prime candidate. That does not mean he investigated me. Folca and another DT probably colluded, with Folca investigating decaf or gladius and the other DT investigating me. Of course, Folca doesn't even know if the other DT was legit and before he died he never told us. So you're wrong. | ||
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Being that I was the most high profile of the 5, it'd make sense if he said he investigated me on behalf of the other DT that he can't even verify. Being that he tried to get gladius and decaf lynched, chances are he really investigated one of them. | ||
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If you and Caller die who do they report to? | ||
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On November 04 2008 15:04 Chezinu wrote: Ace, what would you last as your last meal? Coffee? I see what you did there | ||
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1.) Clazz everything Folca said isn't true because he only did 1 investigation. Just because someone is a DT doesn't mean they know everything. You fail. But go ahead and lynch everyone he named. 2.) Emp stop trying. | ||
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Lynching Folca first was best for the town as he was an unproven DT. Stop trying to blame other people because they were smarter than you. | ||
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Might as well lynch, if you use the vigis it'll just leave clues to them. And you people have no idea what roles we know so far. lulz. | ||
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chillin yo, whats up my dude? | ||
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On November 05 2008 10:07 Mynock wrote: Don't reason with it, don't try to argue with it, just dominate it! Mynock come on, you know me better than this? would I lie to you? <3 | ||
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In fact, I figured I'd be investigated as soon as I got word that I was mafia. but I'm not dead yet! <---hardcore Mafia | ||
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On November 05 2008 13:34 bumatlarge wrote: Also Ace, any messages from the mafia scum before you kick the bucket?? :D I told you, I don't know who the rest of the mafia are | ||
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By lynching the possible DT first, if he flips green/blue you know the accused is red. If he flips red, you are almost sure the accused is townie. If you lynch the accused first, if he flips blue/green you know the Dt is a fake. However if he flips red, you have no idea about the status of the DT. You NEVER blindly believe anyone calling themselves a DT on the first day of the game. You'd be setting the town up for a lot of failure. | ||
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Thign is you don't know what mafia would do, you just do the most logical move and go from there. Mafia would surely trade one of their own to kill a prominent townie don't you think? | ||
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On November 05 2008 23:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: the mafia has no way of knowing who is or is not a prominent townie fail. and you won't win anything since I put you on the kill list last night. gg no re. | ||
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On November 06 2008 15:08 ShadowDrgn wrote: 4 deaths, all greens. Nice. thats what YOU think. Caller knows why. hahhaahahahhaha | ||
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I post on 4chan ^_^ | ||
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On November 06 2008 16:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote: To save your friends from possible death? but then you could just second guess me. See, it's easy. | ||
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On November 07 2008 11:36 Amber[LighT] wrote: Why are you guys voting for ace? We already know he's a mafia we can have a vigilante go after him and attempt to vote for someone else we suspect. because they are teh scared yoz! honestly, if you try to vigi me that would be pretty bad on the town's part | ||
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1.) it's early in the game and not enough info is known on the town's side so why would you vigi anyone? thats bad 2.) mafia can also figure out who the vigis are. You don't know how much we've figured out so far so potentially revealing more blues could hurt more than you think. 3.) Just because we didn't kill any blue last night doesn't mean we made a mistake. | ||
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On November 07 2008 11:46 RtS)Night[Mare wrote: well if we send a vigi to kill a certain person, we can assume the vigi did hit and not listen to those clues. what the hell? :/ I see keeping you alive for a couple of nights wont hurt | ||
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ShadowDrgn is a DT Jim Tudor is a vet Fake Steve is a medic <--win | ||
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riddle me that who's the next townie to have his brains go splat! answer: + Show Spoiler + iffudnsos | ||
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that ain't so little someone else will die and for once I'm not high because on this cold, frosty night surely someone else will see their plight as mafia comes down, the icy road to hell and back I have rode + Show Spoiler + iasnttaafc | ||
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Thanks Chuiu. For a second there I thought they were gonna vote to lynch me. | ||
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The A spectre is haunting Teamliquid—the spectre of Mafia. All the Powers of gg.net and Teamliquid have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Ace and other mafioso, the scourges of freedom and twinkies. Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as Mafia by its opponents in power? Where is the Opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of Mafia, against the more advanced opposing townies, as well as against its reactionary adversaries? I will tell you where they are. Dead. Dead by the very hands that write you this note. Empyrean Caller Fishball some other guy I can't remember right now And if you want to live. You should follow my advice. Play your role accordingly, and we won't have to kill you by accident. If you are confused about your role, then let me spell it out for you: I. Mafia,Townies(Vanilla) and "The Blues" The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. Mafia and Towny, blue vs green, red vs blue, McDonalds vs Burger King, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary re-constitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes. My dear green townies, do you not see what they are doing? The Blues are thine enemy! They have oppressed you for hours! Taunting and teasing you about their status, their so called "roles". They think they are better than you! They even feel as if they DERSERVE and have the god given right to live longer than you my friends! They want you take the bullets, but will not speak up and fight the good fight! They want to take the credit for doing easy things like "investigating" but will not man up and make a single POST in unison with you! They tell you how to vote, who to vote for, and if you aren't careful where you can stick your wee-wee and in what! They call you stupid when you are just trying to help! What kind of world is this!? A man wants to be a hero but is not willing to be the martyr!? RUBBISH I SAY! They are COWARDS! Reds and Greens! We can win this together! They call us your enemy, but we are your friends! We come to liberate, not decapitate. The blues are hiding amongst you trying to tell you they will give you their lives - but it is the opposite! 1 blue man dared to spit on my good name, and he cost 4 greens their lives. My friends, together we can rout these devils out! If you are with me, to fight the good fight, and free ourselves of this oppressive blue state then holla if you hear me! *crowd goes wild* LET US MOVE FORTH IN THIS NEW MOVEMENT! LET THE BELLS OF FREEDOM RING! LET US MARCH ON TO VICTORY! AND THIS, THIS NEW DAY IN HISTORY, THIS NEW RISING OF THE WORKING CLASS WE SHALL CALL - THE MAFIA MANIFESTO! Amen. ~ Kace Marx | ||
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The reason the town doesn't want to vigi me, at least the smart guys anyway has nothing to do with the town going "lolz thats dah vigi right tharr! don't inteput it yoz!". Mafia can also interpret it, so you'd leave the vigis out to hang genius. Instead of arguing with people why don't you actually read their posts and see why it makes sense not to follow your advice. | ||
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one more time! people listen to me! The A spectre is haunting Teamliquid—the spectre of Mafia. All the Powers of gg.net and Teamliquid have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Ace and other mafioso, the scourges of freedom and twinkies. Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as Mafia by its opponents in power? Where is the Opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of Mafia, against the more advanced opposing townies, as well as against its reactionary adversaries? I will tell you where they are. Dead. Dead by the very hands that write you this note. Empyrean Caller Fishball some other guy I can't remember right now And if you want to live. You should follow my advice. Play your role accordingly, and we won't have to kill you by accident. If you are confused about your role, then let me spell it out for you: I. Mafia,Townies(Vanilla) and "The Blues" The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. Mafia and Towny, blue vs green, red vs blue, McDonalds vs Burger King, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary re-constitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes. My dear green townies, do you not see what they are doing? The Blues are thine enemy! They have oppressed you for hours! Taunting and teasing you about their status, their so called "roles". They think they are better than you! They even feel as if they DERSERVE and have the god given right to live longer than you my friends! They want you take the bullets, but will not speak up and fight the good fight! They want to take the credit for doing easy things like "investigating" but will not man up and make a single POST in unison with you! They tell you how to vote, who to vote for, and if you aren't careful where you can stick your wee-wee and in what! They call you stupid when you are just trying to help! What kind of world is this!? A man wants to be a hero but is not willing to be the martyr!? RUBBISH I SAY! They are COWARDS! Reds and Greens! We can win this together! They call us your enemy, but we are your friends! We come to liberate, not decapitate. The blues are hiding amongst you trying to tell you they will give you their lives - but it is the opposite! 1 blue man dared to spit on my good name, and he cost 4 greens their lives. My friends, together we can rout these devils out! If you are with me, to fight the good fight, and free ourselves of this oppressive blue state then holla if you hear me! *crowd goes wild* LET US MOVE FORTH IN THIS NEW MOVEMENT! LET THE BELLS OF FREEDOM RING! LET US MARCH ON TO VICTORY! AND THIS, THIS NEW DAY IN HISTORY, THIS NEW RISING OF THE WORKING CLASS WE SHALL CALL - THE MAFIA MANIFESTO! Amen. ~ Kace Marx Follow me for the path to | ||
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I would have gotten away with this if it wasn't for you kids and your crumby little dog(Folca) too! | ||
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On November 09 2008 08:16 Amber[LighT] wrote: It's backwards logic like this that's fucking us over right now. + Show Spoiler + DO NOT TAKE THIS AS ANYTHING MAFIA LIKE! I was not kidding when I said this: Bockit makes more sense than any of you. Why the hell would you believe anyone that claims DT on day 1? The reason the town has been fucking up is because of GREED over LOGIC.Think damn it :/ | ||
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yea, I think the "imDerek" situation is when everyone just said fuck it. GG town. | ||
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