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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 05:47:25
November 03 2008 05:46 GMT
#561
Honestly, at this point, we gain most by voting decafchicken, then voting tomorrow on one of the guaranteed mafia, Ace or Folca, depending on night action. By doing this, we maximize Folca's utility if he is detective, and have a guaranteed mafia in Ace, and a dead mafia (likely) in decafchicken. If not, then we'll have the same scenario (except less information from a detective) since we'll vote to lynch Ace and decafchicken anyway (if Folca turns DT in his death).

EDIT: So everyone who didn't vote for decafchicken or Folca, please vote for decafchicken. It makes it easier for the DTs to do their jobs as well, as they only have to check two lists.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 03 2008 05:50 GMT
#562
You're right, if this was last game I would say the same thing. I'm going for Folca because we KNOW there is a collision of facts here: either him or myself are going to flip red.

With decaf there isn't. The clue pointing to him is really not even that deep. Just like last game when the town has no idea what to do, we start lynching people and hope they turn red. This time, we know for a fact that either myself or Folca is going to flip red and it sounds like you guys are banking on the fact that he flips blue.

And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
November 03 2008 05:51 GMT
#563
We traded off a townie life for more information by a detective that may lead to more mafia deaths.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
November 03 2008 05:52 GMT
#564
On November 03 2008 14:41 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 14:31 decafchicken wrote:
Reasons not to lynch me:
1) it fucks up the list between ace and folca, which we can use to determine mafia
2) You gain way more by choosing to lynch ace or mafi
3) All you have to go on me is a clue so strong its gotta be a red herring.
4) Empy = mafiascum!



Also, this post here. Reasons not to lynch you? It shouldn't mess up any list considering no one should be voting for ace and the minority should be voting for folca. We gain less by choosing ace or folca actually, as stated before, folca will die tomorrow regardless of what happens tonight (unless of course people don't read and think for themselves and lynch him tonight like fools). As pointed out in all of Chuiu's games, he does not put any red herrings in the game, meaning you are defending a moot point on how someone read the passage, not what chuiu wrote. Even if Empyrean is mafia, we will find him sooner or later.


Did you read the part in this thread were he used the coffee/eating in last game when i WAS NOT mafia?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 05:53:46
November 03 2008 05:53 GMT
#565
I vote for decafchicken

I was going to abstain, but since Folca showed up and splurged his little bit about being a detective and Ace mafia, I figure it's better to lynch the person that we will at least gain something from, since lynching Folca or Ace at this time wouldn't do anything but cause a wasted lynch.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 03 2008 05:53 GMT
#566
On November 03 2008 14:52 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 14:41 Alventenie wrote:
On November 03 2008 14:31 decafchicken wrote:
Reasons not to lynch me:
1) it fucks up the list between ace and folca, which we can use to determine mafia
2) You gain way more by choosing to lynch ace or mafi
3) All you have to go on me is a clue so strong its gotta be a red herring.
4) Empy = mafiascum!



Also, this post here. Reasons not to lynch you? It shouldn't mess up any list considering no one should be voting for ace and the minority should be voting for folca. We gain less by choosing ace or folca actually, as stated before, folca will die tomorrow regardless of what happens tonight (unless of course people don't read and think for themselves and lynch him tonight like fools). As pointed out in all of Chuiu's games, he does not put any red herrings in the game, meaning you are defending a moot point on how someone read the passage, not what chuiu wrote. Even if Empyrean is mafia, we will find him sooner or later.


Did you read the part in this thread were he used the coffee/eating in last game when i WAS NOT mafia?


Again, as i will point out in the previous posts to get rid of that. Both parts of said story last game were in context with the story. IE Empyrean last game was pulling a late night and needed coffee to stay awake, which is normal. Second scenario was also a late night, needing coffee to stay awake, again, normal. This time is was drinking coffee moments before someone is getting hanged. That isn't normal.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
November 03 2008 05:55 GMT
#567
On November 03 2008 14:53 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 14:52 decafchicken wrote:
On November 03 2008 14:41 Alventenie wrote:
On November 03 2008 14:31 decafchicken wrote:
Reasons not to lynch me:
1) it fucks up the list between ace and folca, which we can use to determine mafia
2) You gain way more by choosing to lynch ace or mafi
3) All you have to go on me is a clue so strong its gotta be a red herring.
4) Empy = mafiascum!



Also, this post here. Reasons not to lynch you? It shouldn't mess up any list considering no one should be voting for ace and the minority should be voting for folca. We gain less by choosing ace or folca actually, as stated before, folca will die tomorrow regardless of what happens tonight (unless of course people don't read and think for themselves and lynch him tonight like fools). As pointed out in all of Chuiu's games, he does not put any red herrings in the game, meaning you are defending a moot point on how someone read the passage, not what chuiu wrote. Even if Empyrean is mafia, we will find him sooner or later.


Did you read the part in this thread were he used the coffee/eating in last game when i WAS NOT mafia?


Again, as i will point out in the previous posts to get rid of that. Both parts of said story last game were in context with the story. IE Empyrean last game was pulling a late night and needed coffee to stay awake, which is normal. Second scenario was also a late night, needing coffee to stay awake, again, normal. This time is was drinking coffee moments before someone is getting hanged. That isn't normal.


Enjoying a last meal before being hanged is totally uncommon!
oh wait, EVERYONE DOES IT.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 03 2008 05:55 GMT
#568

And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying?


someone address this issue please, because no one has explained yet how they rae so sure decaf is going to flip red when we already have a collision going on.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
November 03 2008 05:56 GMT
#569
Hmm, but I think drinking coffee with your last meal is a little uncommon.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 06:02:32
November 03 2008 06:01 GMT
#570
as one general note as well, im a cook and thinking about the final meal "clue"

In a traditional meal setting, as in a banquet or the like, you would have coffee after finishing the entire meal, as a finisher.

Rather than just pin decaf as he fits the chicken = meal, and decaf = coffee

Yogurt fits the mold by also being a food item, with a picture of it in his profile
Falcynn has applesauce repeated as part of his profile
Hero's pink has two people sharing a milkshake


More than just one food connection, and as a final meal coffee makes sense, so not really a good lynch guys, lets think on it more

You can thank me later decaf :p
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17004 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 06:01:46
November 03 2008 06:01 GMT
#571
If decaf flips green and Folca is DT, then we traded a green life for more information supplied by the detective.

If Folca flips red, we'll know we can actually trust you (kind of...he could have accused you just to build trust in you, knowing that being accused by a known mafia would lead some people to assume you're town).

Except it's more likely that decaf is mafia than Folca is based on what we have, so that's why I'm voting to lynch decaf.

Additionally, if we kill decaf and he is red, we will likely vote to lynch Ace instead of Folca next, since Ace is so sedulously defending decaf in the rare case the mafia don't target Folca and we have to choose between him and Ace.
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 03 2008 06:01 GMT
#572
On November 03 2008 14:55 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +

And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying?


someone address this issue please, because no one has explained yet how they are so sure decaf is going to flip red when we already have a collision going on.


Because if he flips blue instead, we waste his ability. By holding off until tomorrow, we gain more intel if he is blue when he will be lynched. We have a collision, but since he is role calling detective, it is beneficial to keep him 1 day that doesn't affect mafia kill count (even if he died tonight as mafia, they still have 5 kills) to chance getting more intel.

Decaf: Everyone has a last meal before execution, but how many do you know drink coffee with said last meal?
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 03 2008 06:03 GMT
#573
On November 03 2008 15:01 Empyrean wrote:

Additionally, if we kill decaf and he is red, we will likely vote to lynch Ace instead of Folca next, since Ace is so sedulously defending decaf in the rare case the mafia don't target Folca and we have to choose between him and Ace.



Incorrect, Folca will be lynched tomorrow if he is alive. We won't deviate from our path of killing accusers who role call detective. The fact that we are keeping him alive 1 extra day is to get more info before he dies, but die he will. Its the only way to 100% know if ace is mafia or not.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 03 2008 06:05 GMT
#574
On November 03 2008 15:03 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 15:01 Empyrean wrote:

Additionally, if we kill decaf and he is red, we will likely vote to lynch Ace instead of Folca next, since Ace is so sedulously defending decaf in the rare case the mafia don't target Folca and we have to choose between him and Ace.



Incorrect, Folca will be lynched tomorrow if he is alive. We won't deviate from our path of killing accusers who role call detective. The fact that we are keeping him alive 1 extra day is to get more info before he dies, but die he will. Its the only way to 100% know if ace is mafia or not.


Unless clues start to point towards ace after tonight, but that isnt likely to be easy to spot
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 03 2008 06:06 GMT
#575
Emp of course I'm defending decaf: no one has yet to give strong evidence to why he should die. and like I've said countless times, myself and Folca already present a CLEAR path to a resolution.

You and Alventenie are BANKING on the best case scenario when you have no idea whether decaf is gonna flip or not. Did any of you cite any DT investigation into decaf? No. Your whole thing is "I think this clue fits him", and neither of you are even known for being great at clue analysis. Thats why I'm not buying it.

And of course I'm sure you would say that. Me defending decaf paints both of us mafia. So lynch me first now, instead of Folca even though the burden of proof is on him and he has nothing to do with decaf. Right. Makes perfect sense don't you think?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
November 03 2008 06:07 GMT
#576
On November 03 2008 15:01 Alventenie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 14:55 Ace wrote:

And if he is red, doesn't get lynched tonight and decaf flips green today then what will we all be saying?


someone address this issue please, because no one has explained yet how they are so sure decaf is going to flip red when we already have a collision going on.


Because if he flips blue instead, we waste his ability. By holding off until tomorrow, we gain more intel if he is blue when he will be lynched. We have a collision, but since he is role calling detective, it is beneficial to keep him 1 day that doesn't affect mafia kill count (even if he died tonight as mafia, they still have 5 kills) to chance getting more intel.

Decaf: Everyone has a last meal before execution, but how many do you know drink coffee with said last meal?


refer to c0bs post
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
November 03 2008 06:07 GMT
#577
## I vote for decafchicken

based on the clues and the arguments that several people have mentioned.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
November 03 2008 06:11 GMT
#578
On November 03 2008 15:07 goldenkrnboi wrote:
## I vote for decafchicken

based on the clues and the arguments that several people have mentioned.


Based on the clues? I destroyed them with facts that relate directly to FOOD INDUSTRY, coffee is a normal thing at the end of a meal, i also listed other names that are linked to a "meal" setting to begin with, ffs, they have been defeated, now new evidence is needed to continue the bandwagon
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
November 03 2008 06:13 GMT
#579
So in the worst case scenario, where decaf flips green, and folca flips red. Would town have been better off voting for folca tonight.
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
November 03 2008 06:14 GMT
#580
wow, so much to catch up... you guys are reeeeally good at 1a2a3a4a5a-ing
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
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