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On November 03 2008 15:13 Jimtudor wrote:
So in the worst case scenario, where decaf flips green, and folca flips red. Would town have been better off voting for folca tonight.
No, mafia hit power stays the same.
And @Ace, I see your point, though I'd honestly like to keep you alive even if you were mafia, since you actually contribute a lot to the town.
I change my vote. I vote to lynch Ace.
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Wait, why aren't you following your own plan.That makes it more difficult for our detectives to check two lists.
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no ones following the plan, which was vote folca or ace, but hey, what good are plans =\
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On November 03 2008 15:15 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 15:13 Jimtudor wrote:
So in the worst case scenario, where decaf flips green, and folca flips red. Would town have been better off voting for folca tonight. No, mafia hit power stays the same. And @Ace, I see your point, though I'd honestly like to keep you alive even if you were mafia, since you actually contribute a lot to the town. I change my vote. I vote to lynch Ace.
But then wouldn't we be slower to eliminate mafia for the following day when we could have it down to four by the next cycle.
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I honestly don't see what the current debate is about. Decaf is not a sure lynch. The case against him is based off of the very first set of clues, which are extremely malleable at best. Cluework is based off of recurring patterns, not one single set of things.
On the other hand, Folca has come forward saying he's a detective, and claims that Ace is mafia. Whether or not this is true, we know that one of them is Mafia now.
So, clearly our choice should be to pick between these two tonight - either way, we get a confirmed Mafia, which is huge for our first night. Since the act of revealing your crucial role as a detective this early is more than a little on the foolish side, I'm going with Folca. If it turns out he's telling the truth then he would've died by Mafia's hands anyway for revealing his role, and we can go after Ace.
I vote to lynch Folca.
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Yes, good post mtf, I agree.
I change my vote to lynch Folca.
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On November 03 2008 15:28 MTF wrote:
I honestly don't see what the current debate is about. Decaf is not a sure lynch. The case against him is based off of the very first set of clues, which are extremely malleable at best. Cluework is based off of recurring patterns, not one single set of things.
On the other hand, Folca has come forward saying he's a detective, and claims that Ace is mafia. Whether or not this is true, we know that one of them is Mafia now.
So, clearly our choice should be to pick between these two tonight - either way, we get a confirmed Mafia, which is huge for our first night. Since the act of revealing your crucial role as a detective this early is more than a little on the foolish side, I'm going with Folca. If it turns out he's telling the truth then he would've died by Mafia's hands anyway for revealing his role, and we can go after Ace.
I vote to lynch Folca.
i disagree heavily
if mafia kills him tonight thats one hit that's not going to another townie.
If not then we have another round of events, during which Folca can "DT" someone. Depending on what the end result is we can get more info regardless of whether folca is blue or mafiaso.
We have two in the bush already. We might as well get a chance at the third and having nothing to lose.
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To be clear: I am voting Ace simply to help DT's in the future. Ugh. I know I'll have to catch up on like 5 pages tomorrow morning.
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On November 03 2008 15:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 15:07 goldenkrnboi wrote:
## I vote for decafchicken
based on the clues and the arguments that several people have mentioned. Based on the clues? I destroyed them with facts that relate directly to FOOD INDUSTRY, coffee is a normal thing at the end of a meal, i also listed other names that are linked to a "meal" setting to begin with, ffs, they have been defeated, now new evidence is needed to continue the bandwagon
well i'm sorry if my internet sucks, i have homework left to do, and you guys are posting as if chuiu was going to move into night in 30 seconds.
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On November 03 2008 15:46 goldenkrnboi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 15:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 03 2008 15:07 goldenkrnboi wrote:
## I vote for decafchicken
based on the clues and the arguments that several people have mentioned. Based on the clues? I destroyed them with facts that relate directly to FOOD INDUSTRY, coffee is a normal thing at the end of a meal, i also listed other names that are linked to a "meal" setting to begin with, ffs, they have been defeated, now new evidence is needed to continue the bandwagon well i'm sorry if my internet sucks, i have homework left to do, and you guys are posting as if chuiu was going to move into night in 30 seconds.
Sorry  I just felt ignored.
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On November 03 2008 15:42 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 15:28 MTF wrote:
I honestly don't see what the current debate is about. Decaf is not a sure lynch. The case against him is based off of the very first set of clues, which are extremely malleable at best. Cluework is based off of recurring patterns, not one single set of things.
On the other hand, Folca has come forward saying he's a detective, and claims that Ace is mafia. Whether or not this is true, we know that one of them is Mafia now.
So, clearly our choice should be to pick between these two tonight - either way, we get a confirmed Mafia, which is huge for our first night. Since the act of revealing your crucial role as a detective this early is more than a little on the foolish side, I'm going with Folca. If it turns out he's telling the truth then he would've died by Mafia's hands anyway for revealing his role, and we can go after Ace.
I vote to lynch Folca. i disagree heavily if mafia kills him tonight thats one hit that's not going to another townie. If not then we have another round of events, during which Folca can "DT" someone. Depending on what the end result is we can get more info regardless of whether folca is blue or mafiaso. We have two in the bush already. We might as well get a chance at the third and having nothing to lose.
But how would he help if he is mafia.
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On November 03 2008 15:55 Jimtudor wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2008 15:42 Caller wrote:On November 03 2008 15:28 MTF wrote:
I honestly don't see what the current debate is about. Decaf is not a sure lynch. The case against him is based off of the very first set of clues, which are extremely malleable at best. Cluework is based off of recurring patterns, not one single set of things.
On the other hand, Folca has come forward saying he's a detective, and claims that Ace is mafia. Whether or not this is true, we know that one of them is Mafia now.
So, clearly our choice should be to pick between these two tonight - either way, we get a confirmed Mafia, which is huge for our first night. Since the act of revealing your crucial role as a detective this early is more than a little on the foolish side, I'm going with Folca. If it turns out he's telling the truth then he would've died by Mafia's hands anyway for revealing his role, and we can go after Ace.
I vote to lynch Folca. i disagree heavily if mafia kills him tonight thats one hit that's not going to another townie. If not then we have another round of events, during which Folca can "DT" someone. Depending on what the end result is we can get more info regardless of whether folca is blue or mafiaso. We have two in the bush already. We might as well get a chance at the third and having nothing to lose. But how would he help if he is mafia.
then we essentially can extort information out of him. also we can lynch him then anyways.
i dunno though. ace's reaction on this seemed funny.
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This is the first time I've ever been accused of being mafia by a DT, how does it seem funny? What I suggested makes sense.
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I think MTF's clue on MidnightGladius is particularly strong. I was like "GOD DAMN O:"
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Also, how about getting another DT to check up on Folca? I don't think I can vote for anyone until I have a double-verification of some sort. Wouldn't it seem likely for a Mafia to get rid of an active with strong analysis like Ace? I mean, I guess this is why we would be killing Folca too, but is it worth the loss of Ace?
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I abstain from voting.
Too many bullets being fired in a glass house, breaking pretty windows T_T
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Did Folca use his second role check already? I've read through the last pages, but probably missed it. If you haven't, I suggest checking either nemY or SoleSteeler. It really only is a gut feeling I have, but first of all they posted the exact same things: "I abstain, because I don't have a clue. Good Luck to the town blah blah." Sort of.
It's the exact same thing 80% of us mafia did at the beginning of the last game before we had a plan.
I vote to lynch Folca, for now.
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