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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 03 2008 04:34 GMT
#521
no I'm not. I doubt everyone is going to vote equally, and I also don't want to take the chance that someone last minute switch votes from you to me, gets me killed and you get to kill at night.

I think if you want to use lists, instead of making it even, uneven the list so Folca is lynched no matter what but you have lop-sided lists with one very small one.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
November 03 2008 04:38 GMT
#522
its c0bbler not clover =(
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 04:41:05
November 03 2008 04:38 GMT
#523
So I have condemned myself, so I am going to express every thought I have had so far from everything I have read and took in. I am going to separate facts from thoughts.

Fact: Ace is Mafia
Fact: I am Detective

Thought: The link between MidnightGladius's Sig and some of the clues. Given the fact Chu doens't have much to work with in regards to his longevity to the site it seems like a decent clue, one we should keep in mind. Also the quickness of his response intrigues me as well (No clue pun intended) If the Mafia all know eachother, chances are they have eachother on friendslists so they can conspire together and talk. What I did probably make Ace mention something to MidnightGladius which would of made Midnight check out the thread. I don't think we have THAT much to convict him based off of that. However as I said before, If I somehow lived to the next round, my next check would be on MidnightGladius without a doubt. So just keep that in mind other DT/Jack's

Thought: Another thing I think should be taken into consideration is this:
"We can trust no mayor, no governor, no authority this day or the next. We must unite to take care of the problem ourselves. Mafia if you hear me then tremble because we are united in our cause and will strike with cruel precision to drive you from our town."


He names 2 roles, and then what I believe to be a hint, Authority, who in this game has authority that isn't a role in the game? I take this as a hint towards either FakeSteve, or Plexa. Who are both admins. Once again this is just my final thoughts which I feel I should express. I am tired and didn't do much referencing and researching into either of them, but I suggest considering and remembering that little hint for the future. I would of looked into them but I have to sleep in a half hour and quite frankly, it is too early in the game and not enough clues to look trhough people who have established themselves as well as FakeSteve and Plexa have.

Good luck all stick it to the mafia :D

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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 04:46:24
November 03 2008 04:45 GMT
#524
ugh so whats going on... we voting ace or folcA?

I don't really wanna risk a good mafia vet like ace because of random accusation. We could always just vote folca and ifhe turns blue we vote ace.. Although I'm not sure if 1 dt is equal to 1 mafia
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 03 2008 04:46 GMT
#525
my character gets super drunk and sleeps through the first vote
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 04:49:59
November 03 2008 04:47 GMT
#526
The only logical reason that Folca would be mafia is if he is a suicide bomber who is already going to kill himself.

edit: nm, I thought night was going to happen before we voted
lol, clueless in The Prism!
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
November 03 2008 04:49 GMT
#527
On November 03 2008 13:24 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
listen to bloodyclover, i have a proposition to split the lists:
splitting the lists is the smartest thing to do to help DT's.


+ Show Spoiler [people who should vote for folca] +

1. imDerek
2. fusionsdf
3. Jimtudor
4. decafchicken
5. Camlito
6. XCetron
7. BloodyC0bbler
8. mikeymoo
9. MTF
10. clazziquai
11. wurm
12. Caller
13. Chezinu
14. nemY
15. xDark.Carnivalx
16. Empyrean
17. fanatacist
18. RtS)Night[Mare
19. araav
20. JeeJee
21. SoleSteeler
22. aZnvaLiaNce
23. ~OpZ~
24. bumatlarge
25. Mynock
26. iNfuNdiBuLuM


+ Show Spoiler [people who should vote for ace] +

27. Ace
28. MidnightGladius
29. Bockit
30. Folca
31. Alventenie
32. goldenkrnboi
33. Yogurt
34. Scorch
35. ShadowDrgn
36. ulszz
37. KH1031
38. Amber[LighT]
39. Fishball
40. Falcynn
41. Artanis[Xp]
42. ZBiR
43. Plexa
44. KF91
45. FakeSteve[TPR]
46. Lenwe
47. HeRoS)Pink
48. Mandalor
49. [GiTM]-Ace
50. G.s)NarutO



As in terms of this i will vote for folca

Everyone please follow this
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
November 03 2008 04:52 GMT
#528
I vote for Folca
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 03 2008 04:52 GMT
#529
I myself think we should hold off lynching folca until tomorrow. Lynching him today means hes dead for sure, waiting until tomorrow means the mafia either:

A) kill him, to make sure he doesn't use any more abilities, or

B) let him live, trying to cast suspicion on him making him seem fake.

Instead we should try to find another mafia through the clues tonight. Once we lynch them (I am voting for decaf), tomorrow we lynch folca (if he is still alive, i believe he will be if we dont lynch him), that way he can use another ability tomorrow. If he turns blue, we vigi Ace so no one can save him, and with luck, drop the mafia kill count to 4 by tomorrow night.

You guys are really charging into this without thinking of your options. Folca pretty much is sacrificing himself, but at least use him for as much as possible. By the town killing him tonight, we give the mafia an extra kill tonight that they wont waste, and it means we have more time to look for other mafia. Lynching him now would be foolish, wasting his potential where we could chance getting a mafia on day 1, not a blue.

I vote for decafchicken

ps. I believe midnightgladius and jimtudor are people we need to watch for. Midnight for his sig + extremely quick to lynch folca without considering the options. I also think Jimtudor should be watched due to that fact that he is almost certain folca is legit, even though he wouldn't know that by just reading folca (i believe folca, but i am not certain he is legit, so im using him to get the biggest gain for the town). Townies please reconsider folca's proposition of lynching him tonight. Let him live through the night with no paramedics watching him to see if the mafia truly wish to kill him.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
November 03 2008 04:52 GMT
#530
look ace if someone abruptly changes his vote to you we'll have a very good target for suspicion. If you're a townie, your sacrifice will be good.

anyways i dont think you'll die today
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16977 Posts
November 03 2008 04:57 GMT
#531
If we don't lynch Folca, will he have a chance to use his powers again and report them before he dies? If so, then I wouldn't advise lynching Folca. He'll die anyway, so in death he'll be vindicated. If no mafia target him to make him look suspicious, we'll all lynch him anyway. That's why I don't want to vote Folca.

As for who to lynch, I still don't know if we can yet trust Folca (or he could be a mafia roleclaiming DT but Ace is also mafia...this way, Folca gains our trust while the mafia don't lose any killing power, and Folca can direct us to kill someone important later) since he's not dead, so because of this, I wouldn't vote for Ace either.

I'll still stay with what few clues we have and vote to lynch decafchicken.

I vote to lynch decafchicken.

Also, has the town abandoned the Mandalor style plan I suggested earlier? If not, then we should probably coordinate first and second suspects.

Also, when will Chuiu compile the vote list?
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
November 03 2008 04:58 GMT
#532
i disagree with you alventenine. By lynching folca we gain valuable information. either he's mafia and we have 1 hit or he's blue and we have 2 prime suspects. In the end lynching any other wont give us information until later, and by this lynching we have 2 lists we can start analyzing asap
Teamliquidian townie
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
November 03 2008 05:01 GMT
#533
On November 03 2008 13:57 Empyrean wrote:
If we don't lynch Folca, will he have a chance to use his powers again and report them before he dies? If so, then I wouldn't advise lynching Folca. He'll die anyway, so in death he'll be vindicated. If no mafia target him to make him look suspicious, we'll all lynch him anyway. That's why I don't want to vote Folca.

As for who to lynch, I still don't know if we can yet trust Folca (or he could be a mafia roleclaiming DT but Ace is also mafia...this way, Folca gains our trust while the mafia don't lose any killing power, and Folca can direct us to kill someone important later) since he's not dead, so because of this, I wouldn't vote for Ace either.

I'll still stay with what few clues we have and vote to lynch decafchicken.

I vote to lynch decafchicken.

Also, has the town abandoned the Mandalor style plan I suggested earlier? If not, then we should probably coordinate first and second suspects.

Also, when will Chuiu compile the vote list?


We are all in agreement im pretty sure about having two lists to votecheck on, its more, who should be on those lists, and Ace and Folca seem to be those targets at the moment.
if someone comes up with better targets im pretty sure the town is all ears for it.

As a note, Folca was right, detectives can use their abilities anytime they want, just once a day.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
November 03 2008 05:02 GMT
#534
well people if you're going to vote, vote for folca or decaf then
Teamliquidian townie
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 03 2008 05:07 GMT
#535
as of now, you want to vote on the person that gives us the most info which is Folca.

If decaf flips red - great we have mafia.
If he doesn't, we move on to Night1/Day2 down a townie with no obvious information.

If we lynch Folca, when he flips red we have a mafia and a motive for his accusations on myself and MG.

We can also move on with the plan to lynch decaf at this point.

One situation is an ABSOLUTE benefit for the town while the other is probable and based on an incomplete clue. I say we lynch Folca and stick with it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jimtudor
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada259 Posts
November 03 2008 05:09 GMT
#536
On November 03 2008 13:52 Alventenie wrote:
I myself think we should hold off lynching folca until tomorrow. Lynching him today means hes dead for sure, waiting until tomorrow means the mafia either:

A) kill him, to make sure he doesn't use any more abilities, or

B) let him live, trying to cast suspicion on him making him seem fake.

Instead we should try to find another mafia through the clues tonight. Once we lynch them (I am voting for decaf), tomorrow we lynch folca (if he is still alive, i believe he will be if we dont lynch him), that way he can use another ability tomorrow. If he turns blue, we vigi Ace so no one can save him, and with luck, drop the mafia kill count to 4 by tomorrow night.

You guys are really charging into this without thinking of your options. Folca pretty much is sacrificing himself, but at least use him for as much as possible. By the town killing him tonight, we give the mafia an extra kill tonight that they wont waste, and it means we have more time to look for other mafia. Lynching him now would be foolish, wasting his potential where we could chance getting a mafia on day 1, not a blue.

I vote for decafchicken

ps. I believe midnightgladius and jimtudor are people we need to watch for. Midnight for his sig + extremely quick to lynch folca without considering the options. I also think Jimtudor should be watched due to that fact that he is almost certain folca is legit, even though he wouldn't know that by just reading folca (i believe folca, but i am not certain he is legit, so im using him to get the biggest gain for the town). Townies please reconsider folca's proposition of lynching him tonight. Let him live through the night with no paramedics watching him to see if the mafia truly wish to kill him.


No,
I said it looks to me that he is legit. To me, that's another way of saying imho. Based on logic, it appears why would a mafia do this. He knows he will die first before ace. He dies, turns up red, ace lives. Mafia wasted a life, ace gains even more clout. What? Where's the strategy? But nethertheless, I really hope he turns up red and is just a mafia bluffing.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-03 05:10:40
November 03 2008 05:09 GMT
#537
On November 03 2008 14:07 Ace wrote:
as of now, you want to vote on the person that gives us the most info which is Folca.

If decaf flips red - great we have mafia.
If he doesn't, we move on to Night1/Day2 down a townie with no obvious information.

If we lynch Folca, when he flips red we have a mafia and a motive for his accusations on myself and MG.

We can also move on with the plan to lynch decaf at this point.

One situation is an ABSOLUTE benefit for the town while the other is probable and based on an incomplete clue. I say we lynch Folca and stick with it.

So if Folca flips blue, now we know to kill decaf and Ace
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 03 2008 05:09 GMT
#538
On November 03 2008 13:58 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i disagree with you alventenine. By lynching folca we gain valuable information. either he's mafia and we have 1 hit or he's blue and we have 2 prime suspects. In the end lynching any other wont give us information until later, and by this lynching we have 2 lists we can start analyzing asap



No, you LOSE information by killing him now. Think, if you kill him now and he is blue, you lose another role check, or list check, and you are killing him for the mafia, as they want us to do. That is worst case scenario. We lose tons of information by lynching him. The 2 lists is moot because we can vote for any 2 people and both lists can be checked.

If he is mafia, we gain NOTHING, because we are going to lynch him tomorrow if he is alive anyway, therefore it doesn't matter if he is mafia and we kill him now, their kill count for tonight is still 5, whether he is alive or dead.

If you cant see that lynching him tonight is a bad idea, then you don't realize what him being alive will make the mafia do. They will have to kill him (which means they waste a kill and free up a lynch for us as well as sure fire kill Ace as mafia), or let him live, in which case we will just frag him tomorrow, after he has used another ability (if he is a detective)
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
November 03 2008 05:10 GMT
#539
On November 03 2008 14:09 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 14:07 Ace wrote:
as of now, you want to vote on the person that gives us the most info which is Folca.

If decaf flips red - great we have mafia.
If he doesn't, we move on to Night1/Day2 down a townie with no obvious information.

If we lynch Folca, when he flips red we have a mafia and a motive for his accusations on myself and MG.

We can also move on with the plan to lynch decaf at this point.

One situation is an ABSOLUTE benefit for the town while the other is probable and based on an incomplete clue. I say we lynch Folca and stick with it.

So if Folca flips green, now we know to kill decaf and Ace



erm, yea I guess
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 03 2008 05:11 GMT
#540
On November 03 2008 14:09 Jimtudor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2008 13:52 Alventenie wrote:
I myself think we should hold off lynching folca until tomorrow. Lynching him today means hes dead for sure, waiting until tomorrow means the mafia either:

A) kill him, to make sure he doesn't use any more abilities, or

B) let him live, trying to cast suspicion on him making him seem fake.

Instead we should try to find another mafia through the clues tonight. Once we lynch them (I am voting for decaf), tomorrow we lynch folca (if he is still alive, i believe he will be if we dont lynch him), that way he can use another ability tomorrow. If he turns blue, we vigi Ace so no one can save him, and with luck, drop the mafia kill count to 4 by tomorrow night.

You guys are really charging into this without thinking of your options. Folca pretty much is sacrificing himself, but at least use him for as much as possible. By the town killing him tonight, we give the mafia an extra kill tonight that they wont waste, and it means we have more time to look for other mafia. Lynching him now would be foolish, wasting his potential where we could chance getting a mafia on day 1, not a blue.

I vote for decafchicken

ps. I believe midnightgladius and jimtudor are people we need to watch for. Midnight for his sig + extremely quick to lynch folca without considering the options. I also think Jimtudor should be watched due to that fact that he is almost certain folca is legit, even though he wouldn't know that by just reading folca (i believe folca, but i am not certain he is legit, so im using him to get the biggest gain for the town). Townies please reconsider folca's proposition of lynching him tonight. Let him live through the night with no paramedics watching him to see if the mafia truly wish to kill him.


No,
I said it looks to me that he is legit. To me, that's another way of saying imho. Based on logic, it appears why would a mafia do this. He knows he will die first before ace. He dies, turns up red, ace lives. Mafia wasted a life, ace gains even more clout. What? Where's the strategy? But nethertheless, I really hope he turns up red and is just a mafia bluffing.


Sorry, i read your post as you were 100% certain he was legit, which you shouldn't be unless you have role checked him/are mafia know he isn't mafia.
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