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ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 05 2008 13:29 GMT
#1010
On November 05 2008 21:59 Ace wrote:
You should let me pick who the DTs should PM.


Well, since you're the most knowledgeable person here, I think it's a good idea.
So, who should it be?
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 05 2008 13:36 GMT
#1012
On November 05 2008 22:20 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
pretty lol that you guys have one potential detective and one potential mafia, and you only have to lynch one to find out who's lying, so you lynch the detective

think before voting


But this is how Ace said things should be done, and Ace is so good everybody should just listen to His word and obey His will - didn't you know that?
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 07 2008 11:09 GMT
#1286
I don't really like this plan of Nightmare and fusion but meh...
## I vote for decafchicken

IMO it would be better to create ~3 secondary lists with 5-10 people, it would be easier to pinpoint mafia there.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 07 2008 12:13 GMT
#1289
On November 07 2008 20:31 Scorch wrote:
We have about 20 people voting at all, and few of those comply with any plans. Victory is going to be hard to achieve this way.


yeah, and that's why voting big lists won't work that much; mafia won't allow us to corner them like that.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 09 2008 12:58 GMT
#1434
That KH1031 thing is most probably made by Ace to make us kill a townie, I'd ignore it.
Since nemy was revealed to be mafia, maybe day 2 clues did point to first letters of names? Then it would lead us to imDerek/iNfuNdiBuLuM and mikeymoo/MTF/MidnightGladius (since nemY and Ace are dead). MidnightGladius and iNfuNdiBuLuM are already on some suspect lists, so it's worth keeping a close eye on them.

Also, I'm not mafia From this list:
ZBiR
Artanis[Xp]
HeRoS)Pink
Lenwe
BloodyC0bbler
I'd suspect BloodyC0bbler fo sho, although I don't know who else nobody seems to have anything on him.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 09 2008 13:32 GMT
#1437
On November 09 2008 22:20 Scorch wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [bumatlarge's PM stuff] +

[wild speculation]

So let's suppose Ace wrote the PM to bumatlarge by accident. How'd he go about writing a PM? He'd probably select the receiver's name from the buddy list. Now suppose Ace misclicked and selected bumatlarge, when originally he intended someone else, perhaps a mafia very near to bumatlarge's name on the list.

How is the buddy list (the drop-down box when writing a PM) ordered? Alphabetically? In the order of when friends were added? My own friend list contains only 5 people and is not representative, however in my case (maybe by coincidence!), the order is as follows: user names beginning with a capital letter sorted alpabetically, then lower-case letters ordered alpabetically: A B C ... Z a b c ... z. I don't know where numbers and special characters belong.

So if names are ordered the way I think, who could be reasonably near to bumatlarge in the buddy list?
XCetron
Yogurt
ZBiR
(~OpZ~ depending on how special characters are ordered)
([GiTM]Ace depending on how special characters are ordered)
araav
aZnvaLiaNce
clazziquai
decafchicken

IF KH1031 turns out to be mafia, it is safe to assume that Ace's PM to bumatlarge was in fact an accident.
Then Ace selected the receiver's name from the Buddy List. You don't manually type in the wrong name by accident.
IF the names are ordered the way I think (Someone please confirm!)
IF Ace has all fellow mafias on his list (very likely)
Then he PROBABLY intended to select someone from among the list above
Which means that (at least) one of them is mafia.

[/wild speculation]

A lot of insecure stuff and little reasonable information, but it's better than nothing. It might be helpful later on.


But notice that Ace wrote:
yea well make sure for Night 2 KH sends it in

it looks like he's replying to someone, no? Then if he's replying, where is the original message? And when you reply, you don't choose recipient from buddy list or whatever, he's already selected. That's why I think it's forged, in addition to the fact that Ace would make such mistake by accident. And killing bumatlarge was only supposed to lure us into his trap.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 09 2008 16:01 GMT
#1443
On November 09 2008 23:28 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
Artanis
+ Show Spoiler +

I'm actually not sure why i suspect him. Prolly cause artanis was a dt(i think) and the last person got killed with blade.But its not to strong i admit



Artanis was a Scout, not a DT.
But I could agree on Scorch. With decaf clue being so obvious, it's possible that's the case here again.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 11 2008 14:01 GMT
#1605
On November 10 2008 11:43 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i ask Zbir and Artanix[xp] to vote for some unknown to be able to check for mafia. Failure to do this will result in next in the line for the gallows.


Firstly, I was at my girl's place for last 40+ hours, so I wasn't checking TL
Secondly, you have no power whatsoever to place me "next in line for the gallows" (unless you're mafia/vigilante, which I doubt)
Thirdly, since I'm far from being a suspect I don't see why I would be forced to do such things, so I won't.
And lastly, I will vote in a manner I choose myself. Don't even try to give me orders, Nightmare.


Good that another mafia bit the dust, too bad I couldn't contribute to it ;]
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 11 2008 23:02 GMT
#1624
On November 12 2008 06:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 23:01 ZBiR wrote:
On November 10 2008 11:43 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i ask Zbir and Artanix[xp] to vote for some unknown to be able to check for mafia. Failure to do this will result in next in the line for the gallows.


Firstly, I was at my girl's place for last 40+ hours, so I wasn't checking TL
Secondly, you have no power whatsoever to place me "next in line for the gallows" (unless you're mafia/vigilante, which I doubt)
Thirdly, since I'm far from being a suspect I don't see why I would be forced to do such things, so I won't.
And lastly, I will vote in a manner I choose myself. Don't even try to give me orders, Nightmare.


Good that another mafia bit the dust, too bad I couldn't contribute to it ;]


Your actually 1 of 5 suspects, and 2 of those 5 are mafia, so 20% chance.

so a high suspect none the less


Yeah, I'm on a totally unconfirmed list with 0 suspicious behaviour before and absolute zero clues (and, as Chuiu stated, those should be quite obvious as my profile contains almost no information that can be used to make clues). Yup, I'm so absolutely mafia it's not even funny.




On November 12 2008 06:48 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Actually BloodyC0bbler, that would 2/5 would be 40%

rotfl yeah, 40% chance of me being mafia
you should study mathematical statistics, I see future for you there :D
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 12 2008 07:17 GMT
#1639
On November 12 2008 11:21 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
I hope a vigi knocks you out ZBiR.


ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 12 2008 16:29 GMT
#1659
On November 12 2008 17:30 Scorch wrote:
Artanis and BloodyC0bbler voted for separate people and can easily be checked. From among the rest, ZBiR acted a bit strangely in the thread. Might he be a bad guy? zbir is bandit in Polish btw, should it be relevant for clue interpretation.


I just really don't like to be told what to do especially by people not entitled to it (and I really didn't have time to check TL at the time). But since now I don't have any serious suspect and nobody's giving me orders, I could do this:

I vote for Camlito.
Still I'm sure no detectice will bother to check me.

Oh, and it's really unlikely that Plexa is red, trust me
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 12 2008 22:12 GMT
#1690
So, uhm... what is it exactly against me?
That I was AFK for some time?
The fact that I tend to oppose people I consider fools? (shall be obvious who am I referring to)
Or maybe it's that me = bandit (well, more like thug, but w/e), and SOME MAFIA DID ACT LIKE A BANDIT?! Oh noes, who would've thought they're gonna attack people and shit...

Yeah, lynch me, then lynch a blue you don't have a clue about, then get owned after 4/10 of the mafia were handed to you. GL


Thanks JeeJee
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 12 2008 22:27 GMT
#1695
On November 13 2008 07:21 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 07:12 ZBiR wrote:
Yeah, lynch me ... then get owned after 4/10 of the mafia were handed to you. GL


This makes you sound even more like a mafia. Are the 4/10 mafia handed to us the alliteration clues? Even more reason to lynch MTF.


No, I mean those that are dead?
Look how hard it was to get decaf from the day 1 clue, nemy suicided kind of confirming that it's a 1st letter thing in day 2 resulting in (I'd say a luckily guessed, but maybe I'm a man of little faith) death of iNfundibulum. Also, Ace was the obvious choice to check day 1 to trade info with him.
That's 4. I have no idea how in the world you would think I'm talking about people that aren't even dead (or even pointed at).
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 12 2008 22:37 GMT
#1697
On November 13 2008 07:18 mikeymoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 07:12 ZBiR wrote:
So, uhm... what is it exactly against me?
That I was AFK for some time?
The fact that I tend to oppose people I consider fools? (shall be obvious who am I referring to)
Or maybe it's that me = bandit (well, more like thug, but w/e), and SOME MAFIA DID ACT LIKE A BANDIT?! Oh noes, who would've thought they're gonna attack people and shit...

Yeah, lynch me, then lynch a blue you don't have a clue about, then get owned after 4/10 of the mafia were handed to you. GL


Thanks JeeJee


For me personally it's how you've been acting and how you spazzed at nightmare. But from this post, maybe you're just a spazzy person. And 4/10 were not handed to "us" (wtf "you" as in townies? why not "us"???). We worked for those, thank you.


Notice how I used "you" in the hypothetical situation in the future, when I'll be dead and not a part of town anymore
And I have no idea of what "spazzy" means ;]



How is the following post not incriminating and highly defensive?
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2008 23:01 ZBiR wrote:
On November 10 2008 11:43 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
i ask Zbir and Artanix[xp] to vote for some unknown to be able to check for mafia. Failure to do this will result in next in the line for the gallows.


Firstly, I was at my girl's place for last 40+ hours, so I wasn't checking TL
Secondly, you have no power whatsoever to place me "next in line for the gallows" (unless you're mafia/vigilante, which I doubt)
Thirdly, since I'm far from being a suspect I don't see why I would be forced to do such things, so I won't.
And lastly, I will vote in a manner I choose myself. Don't even try to give me orders, Nightmare.


Good that another mafia bit the dust, too bad I couldn't contribute to it ;]



I was catching up with a crapload of posts before I wrote this one, and what struck me was Nightmare calling me to necessarily vote imDerek, which was kinda annoying to me... I'd say it was way more offensive than defensive, but meh, I was also threatened to get killed like that after not even one mention of me as a suspect. I had to oppose somehow, didn't I?
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 12 2008 22:38 GMT
#1698
On November 13 2008 07:28 ShadowDrgn wrote:
There are 5 dead. You forgot fanatacist.


I didn't consider him even remotely that easy to get as the other four.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 12 2008 22:50 GMT
#1701
On November 13 2008 07:18 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2008 07:12 ZBiR wrote:
So, uhm... what is it exactly against me?
That I was AFK for some time?
The fact that I tend to oppose people I consider fools? (shall be obvious who am I referring to)
Or maybe it's that me = bandit (well, more like thug, but w/e), and SOME MAFIA DID ACT LIKE A BANDIT?! Oh noes, who would've thought they're gonna attack people and shit...

Yeah, lynch me, then lynch a blue you don't have a clue about, then get owned after 4/10 of the mafia were handed to you. GL


Thanks JeeJee

This is not a good defense. Try to be more constructive, for failing to do so is part of why people are willing to lynch you. Present us an alternative with a good reasoning, and you shall live.


Well, but what can I do when I don't see any good target ? (although me is even worse than just "not good", since I'm 100% sure I'm not mafia however I may be biased about evaluating my behaviour and maybe it really could seem mafiaish to you... iono ;] )
The other guys I see are being voted are Plexa and MTF. Since Plexa already mentioned he doesn't give shit about this game now I can say that we had a PM conversations Day 1 and 2, and he told me his role, also saying that Naruto is a medic and is protecting him. We already know Naruto was a medic indeed, so that leads me to believe Plexa is legit, as in the other case he would probably kill Naruto sooner (although it's not sure, moaybe he'd like him to live to have protection against vigs? not really likely I'd say).
And about MTF, is there anything on him except him being on M? That's not enough to lynch in my opinion. (although if we just killed both him and mikeymoo there would be a really good chance we got a mafia? I don't know, maybe it's viable.)
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 13 2008 10:12 GMT
#1740
On November 13 2008 08:57 Camlito wrote:
Wtf ZBIR voted me haha. *Evil eyes*

I won't vote just yet.


I don't have anything serious against you, it was just because I became a suspect at first for not voting for a random target (wtf? yea I know). Although I won't be suprised at all when you're gonna flip red :>


And I have a feeling that it was mikeymoo who PMed Mynock in the first place and now he's trying to force his plan by pretending "the other guy PMed" (but there was none).

Not like it matters cause I'm going to be the one dying, but w/e
I change my vote from Camlito to mikeymoo.

See you next game townies... and may the GM have mercy on your char
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 13 2008 15:08 GMT
#1744
On November 13 2008 21:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If ZBiR flips green/blue, vigis should clear the rest of the list.


But you know this would mean yourself certainly dying ?
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 13 2008 21:03 GMT
#1750
On November 14 2008 00:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Doesn't matter, I'll gladly sac myself to kill 2 mafia. And so should you.


Maybe I would, if it weren't for one simple fact - I don't even believe the list is legit, it's far from being proved.
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 13 2008 21:41 GMT
#1752
On November 14 2008 06:20 RtS)Night[Mare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2008 06:03 ZBiR wrote:
On November 14 2008 00:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Doesn't matter, I'll gladly sac myself to kill 2 mafia. And so should you.


Maybe I would, if it weren't for one simple fact - I don't even believe the list is legit, it's far from being proved.

this is exactly why you should be lynched


rotfl Nightmare, you seriously are a funny guy
too bad in a non-intended way, but still, it's better to be funny than not
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