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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 15 2008 04:50 GMT
#214
Sign me up. I'm a total lurker, but I do check the site daily and will participate.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-03-18 05:46:21
March 18 2008 05:45 GMT
#334
Are the Saboteur and Suicide Bomber included in the 20 mafia, or are there actually 22 mafia total? Do those two roles get to participate as normal in the mafia, and are the mafia aware of their roles?
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 18 2008 07:14 GMT
#378
Everyone's sigs can be found from the signup and their profiles from the OP. Putting them all together would be a lot of copy paste work.

The clue that stands out the most to me is "either you're with us or you're permanently not" and from just looking at the sign up list, the statement seems like (94. unsoundlogic). He also has no sig, no profile, and few posts per week, meaning a clue made for him would have to come from his name. However, a more common form of that phrase such as "either you're with us or you're against us" would also be unsound logic so maybe there's something special in the words "permanently not." There's also (107. GrayArea) to consider for that clue (another person with no sig, profile, and few posts). Of course, the choice between two extremes leaves no gray area.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 19 2008 04:39 GMT
#958
In case anyone actually cares about the clues, here are my thoughts:

Day 1
Clue: you get to taste lead for dinner
Suspect: Caller
Reason: Sig contains "lead" and other food items that could be related to "dinner"

Clue: either you're with us or you're permanently not
Suspect: unsoundlogic
Reason: Clue contains unsound logic!

Suspect: GrayArea
Reason: Clue lacks a gray area.

Clue: Sidewinder stumbled forward trying to stop the inevitable
Suspect: MidnightGladius
Reason: Sig contains "It's time to acknowledge the inevitable"

Clue: he was cut off by Mr. Blonde, coming out of nowhere it seemed
Suspect: CDRdude
Reason: Sig mentions lurkers unburrowing, which can "come out of nowhere" and cut armies off.

Suspect: Ninja4ever
Reasons: Ninja come out of nowhere! I think this connection is stronger than Dark Carnival does.

Clue: [Dapperdan] met [King Brown Snake] face to face halfway
Suspect HotZhot
Reasons: Extremely weak, but his name sort of fits the description. His profile picture is a half-covered face too.

Clue: Taipan Snake automatically knocked him to the ground and proceeded to kick him, being unarmed at the time.
This seems like two separate clues ("automatically" and "being unarmed"), but I can't fit either of them to anyone.

Clue: The Wolf approached "Sorry Chuiu, I gotta do this I hope you understand"
Suspect: CTStalker
Reason: Sig contains "I bear no grudge against you" plus the Wolf-Stalker connection. Credit to Dark.Carnival for this one - I think he's dead on. If we're going to lynch anyone based on clues, I think it should be CTStalker.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 19 2008 22:47 GMT
#1131
Doesn't look like it's going to be possible to enforce the voting rule with 34 people unaccounted for.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 20 2008 23:30 GMT
#1655
On March 21 2008 08:09 French_Toast wrote:
Not 100%? Debate with me. (Unless you don't want to.)


The 'PM your role' plan isn't foolproof because there are many people with the same role and additionally, a few of each role will probably be inactive.

For example, there are 7 paramedics. Odds are that 1-2 of them won't get the message that they're supposed to PM their role to Ace, which means the mafia is fairly safe having a member or two lie to Ace about being a medic. Even if Ace receives 7 or fewer medic PMs, he can't trust those people to not be mafia. If he receives 8+ PMs, at least one person is mafia, but 1/8 is a lower ratio than randomly guessing, and there aren't enough detectives to go around to ferret out that one liar. Either way, those people can't be trusted.

The plan is more useful for limited roles such as the Mad Hatter. With only one of those left, the mafia would be taking a huge gamble to pretend to be that one. Vigilantes and Detectives are medium risk - pretending to be one could be a huge payoff if the mafia doesn't get caught and Ace trusts them, but also poses a high risk of being busted.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 21 2008 04:17 GMT
#1700
On March 21 2008 11:56 HotZhot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2008 11:51 Chezinu wrote:
I was reading the day post again and found that it said the word gut twice. So I decided to look up the word just in case it has some other meaning I wasn't aware of. So, when I looked it up I found this definition at dictionary.com:
grand unified theory
n. Abbr. GUT
A theory of elementary forces that unites the weak, strong, electromagnetic, and gravitational interactions into one field theory and views the known interactions as low-energy manifestations of a single unified interaction.

Then I realized that grand was used in the same sentence gut was used in.

Enigma ran his hand through his hair and said "So we're going to gut this town clean and take it over, eh? No more of this bullshit protection, thats grand!"

Oh course, this is most likely to be way off, but I decided to post it anyways.


Do you have someone to point it to? otherwise it's nonsense mafia-wise


Hollander has an Einstein quote in his sig. Einstein's goal was a grand unified theory of physics.

If that's a clue, it's incredibly good and you're a genius Chezinu.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 22 2008 05:01 GMT
#1846
Yogurt did the right thing. He could only plant one bomb a night but could remove them at any time so the best strategy was to plant a bomb on the most suspicious person, which was CTStalker. Yogurt being randomly killed and CTStalker being a Jack were both really bad luck, just like your lynching of incontrol. Good strategy, bad luck.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 22 2008 22:17 GMT
#2030
On March 23 2008 07:11 Wysp wrote:
Are we sure Ace isn't Mafia? If someone could link me to a page that explains why he isn't that would be great.


The plan was for the detectives to check on Ace's role, and if he's mafia, to post as such. Since no detective has outed him as mafia, we can assume:

1) Ace is clean; or,
2) All of the detectives didn't get the message or decided not to check up on Ace AND Ace is mafia.

Considering the unlikelihood of (2), it's relatively safe to assume (1). We're boned at this point if we're wrong anyway so just trust him.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 23 2008 02:44 GMT
#2049
It'd be more helpful if you could vouch for him not being mafia.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 24 2008 06:25 GMT
#2398
Score!

Awesome job on this one Ace.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 24 2008 06:32 GMT
#2407
Ace said there were a few role collisions so we'll hopefully have another guaranteed hanging or two next day without the need for guesswork.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 25 2008 00:25 GMT
#2595
On March 25 2008 09:11 randombum wrote:If anything its too easy and has become boring.


Maybe you should get yourself suspected of being mafia then.

I think the clues pointing to useLess are actually pretty good, and I still like zeks for being Mr. Blonde. Unless Ace has something else in mind, perhaps useLess and I should be voting for different people tomorrow since we seem to be the top two candidates out of the list of seven.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 25 2008 19:42 GMT
#2775
On March 25 2008 22:30 Plexa wrote:
-> his actions are rather 'bland' and unintrusive - he's lying low

The FPS connection checks out with the Shotgun association
His name connects with the fact on both nights he came out from nowhere
A weaker clue can be seen in his I.D. "Shadowdragoon". Shadow Dragoon => Stalker (Sc2) which can blink in and out of trouble similar to just appearing from no where, just like Mr Blonde.
[/b][/b]

I'm not really lying low. I'm PDT and most of the activity in this thread happens while I'm at school or at work. I did some clue postings for day 1, but other people beat me to day 2 and I just didn't have anything constructive to add. Would you like to know that shotguns are my favorite FPS weapon? Not like Chuiu had any way of knowing that. The dragoon connection is really grasping - drgn is dragon, nothing more.

Put useLess and I voting for different people and check one of the groups out if you want to be safe. I think it'd actually be better to check if one of the "useless mafia" clues point to him instead, but that's not 100% guaranteed.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
March 27 2008 02:39 GMT
#2951
On March 27 2008 11:36 JeeJee wrote:
fuckers.
time to read the rest of the post

Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
August 05 2008 01:47 GMT
#6860
On August 05 2008 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
was a nice game to read, but dear god it sucks dying early.


You killed me on DAY THREE so I don't even want to hear it. I tried to be a useful townie and all it got me was a baseball bat to the head. Was killing me Ace's idea or did you actually go vigilante?
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
August 05 2008 02:22 GMT
#6863
Next game, I'd certainly like to avoid whatever I did that got me killed in this one, haha. I know I messed up on a vote by making a new post instead of editing my old one, which probably looked suspicious.

Out of all the mafia I fingered at the beginning, hotzhot was the only one I got right, and it was because of the mirror clue that Ace mentioned 2 pages back. I guess people were right in saying that trying to figure out the mafia from a clue or two is a really bad idea.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
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