EPT@Chuiu you should require the players who signed up long time ago or where moved from the last game to renew.
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@Chuiu you should require the players who signed up long time ago or where moved from the last game to renew. | ||
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And I consider announcements of your tactics before the game lame. | ||
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Posting the siglist doesn't make aarav seem innocent from my point of view: It does not give not give the town a real advantage but looks like you are trying to help the town. | ||
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And the plan o/c works if we use another major. | ||
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Emyprean: your move might have been smart in a game with few mafia players. But not with this many mafia players which makes one mafia player very expentable compared to the gain of a major. I considered the move myself, but came to the conclusion it is unwise. | ||
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On March 19 2008 07:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: 1. Yeah they do. 2. You just admitted you have a role? I'm not stupid, I considered it before the game. But as mafiamembers are very expendable in this game(I'm used to games with <20 players total, not 20 mafia) it is no good move for a detective. I also have some half finished code utilizing shannon entropy to calculate the best target for the detectives, but as we have many detectives and they probably will be able to communicate that is probably not usefull anymore. @qrs: I think one detective detective is not enough if there more detectives report than there are really ingame. Also make sure the "few hours" are long enough. Not everybody is always active. I think 20-30 hours should be ok. | ||
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On March 19 2008 07:58 Empyrean wrote: 1. Yes. I am acting very selfishly. It still benefits the town to guarantee that I'm a protected position. That is only proofable using the cookie-axiom, so this statement is pretty useless On March 19 2008 07:58 Empyrean wrote: Think about it from a mafia standpoint: If I truly were mafia roleclaiming to be detective, once the election is over and under your plan, the detectives reveal their clues (not publically, of course), it'll be obvious that I wasn't a detective. So why would the mafia risk such a scenario? Quick edit. Mafiamembers are expendable in this game. Taking out the major is worth a dead mafia member. @qrs: The role question is imo not that valuable compared to the "how many voted for" question. And they are only expended if a mafia-member claims to be detective, which effectively kills this mafia member. So they are not wasted. | ||
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One way the achieve this is dictatorship of a confirmed good person. But that course takes out fun for all other townies, because they can no longer vote for themselves. | ||
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yes I posted several times during the first 70 pages or so. But then I had no internet for a week. And you used that time to produce about 100 pages. On April 08 2008 00:13 Scorch wrote: Wrong. We started at 20/130=15.4% mafia. At the moment, 90 townies and 18 mafia are still alive, which gives 18/108=16.7% mafia. Mafia managed to shift the percentage a bit to their advantage, but after the next kill they will have less killing power. The longer the game goes, the more information becomes available. So i think town is on a good way to victory. And the confirmed town-aligned leader would be our mayor, Ace. Do saboteur and terrorist cound as innocent for the detective? And even if it's 0.02 less, it does not change the fact that it is good if the mafia percentage in a given selection is as far appart from 20% as possible. So we should try to achieve that. | ||
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On April 10 2008 23:32 HeRoS)Pink wrote: Joe=siefu? i tho he was Enigma? its either Siefu or MasterOfChaos I can't see anyone else being Enigma Could you explain how enigma is linked to me? I hope Ace still has the "araav" hostmask, because then we can see if he was fake (or he tried to look like a fake) | ||
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Day 6 * "Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw" ->Uses Chainsaw, which resembles the spike row a bit ->secret weapon-> lurkerspikes are a weapon which coming surprisingly from the ground Day7: * "stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing" -> same applies to lurker spikes * "The tip was enough to do severe damage" -> spikes do damage with their tip * "tackled Mr. Blue to the ground" -> lurker burrows in the ground * "sneak in from the back" -> Lurker is a sneaky unit Who has is related to a lurker jtan: he has a screenshot with a lurker and marines ![[image loading]](http://teamliquid.net/userfiles/2868.jpg?1162781570) Some additional clues fit here: "aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall" -> the lurkerspines hit the cliff and end there -> The spikes miss the marines (the blood in the image looks like a dead lurker, not marineblood) "but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed" ->missing again "All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door" -> Choke in the screen is the only entrance CDRdude Quote : avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend. So no fek Profile: I lurk TL.net. :O very weak clue Other weak chainsaw related clue Puosu ,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,. ASCII-Art resemles a chainsaw (Check it in the profile, I have charset problems with that string) | ||
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On May 09 2008 21:31 Plexa wrote: Slight chance that Mr Blue could be a lurker ala jtan? + Show Spoiler + - _ - says: He gasped in horror and turned in retreat but found Mr. Blue in his way. MTF panicked, feeling his life in serious danger, and - _ - says: OH WOW - _ - says: THAT ISNT OBVIOUS - _ - says: >.> Plexa: ya - _ - says: turned in retreat - _ - says: marine runing - _ - says: went into a lurker - _ - says: fk sake - _ - says: jtan is mr blue - _ - says: 100% positive  so should youalso theres CDRdude's given he's on the showtime list... might be worth the gambit sounds very similar to what I said some days ago: On April 24 2008 03:24 MasterOfChaos wrote: Mr. Blue related to lurker: Day 6 * "Mr. Blue pulled out the secret weapon he always wanted to kill someone with, a chainsaw" ->Uses Chainsaw, which resembles the spike row a bit ->secret weapon-> lurkerspikes are a weapon which coming surprisingly from the ground Day7: * "stabbed through his chest as if it were nothing" -> same applies to lurker spikes * "The tip was enough to do severe damage" -> spikes do damage with their tip * "tackled Mr. Blue to the ground" -> lurker burrows in the ground * "sneak in from the back" -> Lurker is a sneaky unit Who has is related to a lurker jtan: he has a screenshot with a lurker and marines Some additional clues fit here: "aZnvaLiaNce was quicker and dived past Mr. Blue as he broke the chain of the saw on the metal part of the cubicle wall" -> the lurkerspines hit the cliff and end there -> The spikes miss the marines (the blood in the image looks like a dead lurker, not marineblood) "but aZnvaLiaNce dodged to the side and screamed" ->missing again "All windows locked he tried the back door. When he was left with no other option he decided to kick in the door" -> Choke in the screen is the only entrance CDRdude Quote : avilo: Every now and then a lurker has to unburrow to reach a new position on the map, and become even more of a legend. So no fek Profile: I lurk TL.net. :O very weak clue Other weak chainsaw related clue Puosu ,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,.,.-'´^`'-,. ASCII-Art resemles a chainsaw (Check it in the profile, I have charset problems with that string) but he is not on the mandalor list  | ||
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On May 12 2008 13:18 Chuiu wrote: Day will be up tomorrow, sorry about the delays. Then we have a few more hours to live, before we get murdered by the mafia.  | ||
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On May 25 2008 20:55 Energies wrote: Bah, didn't realise I was dead, I've been on holidays. My vote stands. *shifty eyes* Your secret role has been revealed  Scharping The former German minister of defence Rudolf Scharping is famous for his very slooooooooow way of speaking. If he is killed by the mafia he dies very slooooooooowly. The Scharping dies one day later. http://web.mit.edu/ceu/www/Spielfiguren_eng.htm#Scharping | ||
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40. MasterOfChaos 41. LTT My neighbour was mafia. *shudders* Plexa the greatest of all detectives kills mafia even from his grave | ||
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And there are so many possible(and probable) searches where the post turns up. "Mandalor Mafia" "Controversial List Mafia" I would almost have done that search, because I wanted to know what that strange list plexa kept talking about is. But well, now we have to live with the mafia knowing that post. No use in arguing about the mistakes of the past. We can do that after the game has finished. | ||
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On July 13 2008 23:35 qrs wrote: He does have a partner--or did: Dapper Dan. Whatever happened to him? In think Chuiu stated that Dan did nothing in this game at all. And I never expected the game to run till now when my exams are. It was simply too large. Jeejee, If the game was balanced with everybody playing, then how does only 1/2 the town playing + us getting the list of blues + it still being close have the game balanced? I agree with that. The town made several really bad mistakes and still came out ahead, and only might lose due to inactivity in the end. (Yes the mafia wasn't too efficient with distributing their killingpower, but the town mistakes were FAR bigger than that). But of cause clues are extremly hard to balance. If you have sb like Plexa who gets much info from them they help town very much, if not the game easily swings the other way. I also have no idea what mafia/town ratio is good for such a game, as I'm only used to much smaller games with different rules (no clues, no major). | ||
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On July 14 2008 02:58 JeeJee wrote: mostly because the mafia sucked. i do think you underestimate the mistakes mafia made this game. That might be very possible as I missed large parts of the midgame. The only major mistake I recall was the randombum massvoting. btw is there a current list of confirmed innocents and suspects with a reasoning why they are suspicious. I think one of the main reasons for inactivity is, that once you missed a part of the thread, it is very hard to get back into the game without reading many pages. | ||
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