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Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 06 2008 17:29 GMT
#6053
California Mountain Snake's most prominent feature is definitely his weapon. We know quite well what kind of weapon that is: it is a sharp metal disc that can be thrown but also used in melee. If you have someone at hand who fits the weapon clue better, please feel free to point out your suspect.

As for the "L defends Bockit" story: I defended Bockit too in that regard, simply because mod powers aren't required to find the list. Just search for your own name, you'll easily find it too. Bockit might have found the list, but it could've been anyone else just as likely. This means that I wouldn't take L rising from the grave into account at all. Don't let this influence your opinion about Bockit, neither positively nor negatively.

We don't need to lynch Bockit right away, but it seems a lot of people want to, and I don't think he's a bad candidate either.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 07 2008 11:00 GMT
#6069
On June 07 2008 13:32 Chuiu wrote:
Later that night Wizard was conjuring something in his kitchen when Cottonmouth broke into his house. Wizard heard glass shatter and the door open in the next room and saw him coming through the door. Dressed shabbily Cottonmouth walked in and presented himself as a challenge. Wizard took it and reached for a nearby lamp as a weapon. He ran towards Cottonmouth and swung the lamp but missed as Cottonmouth dodged underneath him and flung him over his back. Cottonmouth grabbed the lamp and used the bottom end of it as a blunt weapon smashing Wizard's arm as he turned around to get up. He tossed it aside and began stomping on Wizard's side relentlessly and began kicking also. To finish him off Cottonmouth took up the lamp again and shoved the bulb end of it as hard as he could into Wizard's chest impaling him with it.

That looks like an important clue. Who might be dressed shabbily? Going over araav's blog, maybe the following people:

SoMuchBetter wears a shabby cloak and hat in his pic
So no fek looks like Jesus Christ himself
RowdierBob because rowdies aren't known for being dressed too well. The italicized parts could also fit the street brawling style of a rowdy.

Unfortunately, none of the three really fit any earlier clues for Cottonmouth, except maybe RowdierBob throwing stones on Day 7. Any better candidates than RowdierBob? I really have no confidence in this interpretation, but I lack a better candidate.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
June 28 2008 08:32 GMT
#6371
Nooooo, I knew I should have laid low instead of voting yesterday. At least I passed in a beautiful, spectacular way
Go town, finish off the remaining suckers!
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 02 2008 08:02 GMT
#6407
On July 02 2008 09:13 nemY wrote:I just feel there are stronger suspects at the moment... mainly Scorch as Mr. Blond (which once again no one has yet to comment on )

Not to rain on your parade, but I'm a dead townie. I guess you meant HotZhot as Mr.Blonde.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 03 2008 10:22 GMT
#6414
The rule wasn't enforced, otherwise there would be about five people still in the game. I don't think anything prevents you from participating, except maybe that you don't have the faintest idea what's been going on during the last 300 pages.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 07 2008 10:42 GMT
#6466
Why should mafia win? Look at the numbers. Townies can afford at least four mislynches, probably more, depending on how many lives the veterans have left. With so much information available at this point and even more to be revealed, I doubt this will happen.
Nevertheless, inactivity is admittedly a big problem for the town, and no problem at all for the mafia due to the killing system. Maybe it would help if Chuiu sent a PM to every townie asking for their participation? We could then still think about replacing inactives.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 12 2008 08:31 GMT
#6548
Chuiu should have included a disclaimer on how the replacements work. Would clues be related to the old or new names? Why are the names green? Green by convention denotes a townie, an innocent inhabitant of Liquidia, so green is misleading.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
July 30 2008 19:48 GMT
#6784
Yay, I returned from my holiday just in time to see the wrap-up :D
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 03 2008 07:21 GMT
#6805
Is this a concession? Yay, go town!
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 04 2008 17:37 GMT
#6826
I propose Plexa for the Most Valuable Towny Award.

Thanks to Chuiu for administering the game over almost half a year! Is another game upcoming or have you had enough?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 04 2008 21:00 GMT
#6840
I'd say the game was well balanced. Both sides played it very well. Mafia successfully managed to infiltrate the inner circle (as far as I can tell as a simple townie) and proceeded to kill all power roles early. The town did some great clue analyzing (Plexa, MTF and multiple others) and rooted out a mafia almost every day. The game was quite close at some points, since the town couldn't afford many mislynches and inactivity almost allowed the mafia to sway the votes.

Things I would change next time:
- Do things on a far smaller scale. A game with 130 people is destined to take ages and make bored people go inactive.
- Do not replace inactive people in order to prevent the confusion we had. Just ban them from the next game.
- Set a fixed schedule for days and nights to speed up the game, say 48 hours. Should the mafia not send in their hit list before the deadline, select targets at random.

GOOD GAME!
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 05 2008 17:47 GMT
#6896
On August 06 2008 00:35 fusionsdf wrote:
so I was an early suspect?
I was wondering whether that would work out

It wasn't you in particular, there were multiple possibilities. Here's my PM conversation with Ace on the matter:
+ Show Spoiler +
right now it makes sense to ignore useless and azn for the time being, since the mafia that was caught was confirmed in one of those 7.

Also, we are thinking about vote checking the list with Trancestorm since that frees up more people faster. But we're discussing the plan now.

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Original Message:
we should be able to work around this if you vote-check someone else then. the vigilante would then have to assassinate someone else obviously. the logic applies to both directions of the Chezinu-fusionsdf and aZnvaLiaNce-useLess pairs, so we can still carry out the plan. these are the possible votes to check for the detective:

Ninja4ever. - 1 (day 2)
Chezinu
--> kill fusionsdf if Chezinu is townie

zeks - 1 (day 3)
aZnvaLiaNce(2)
--> kill useLess if aZnvaLiaNce is townie

Ace - 1 (day 4)
fusionsdf
--> kill Chezinu if fusionsdf is townie

unfortunately, there is no convenient vote by useLess, but the three above should be enough already. we have three possible alternatives, so you can leave the two supposed power roles alive. you don't even need to tell me the two rolebearers in case you don't trust me, hehe

convinced yet?

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Original Message:
good idea. There is only ONE major problem with it being that 2 of those guys may carry an important role

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
hi!

based on my observations in the quote at the bottom, i have a strategic suggestion to make.

let your lone detective check the votes for Ace on day 4 (that would be only fusionsdf). if fusionsdf is mafia, obviously we know who to hit. now comes the fun part. if he is innocent, let a vigilante kill Chezinu!

now if Chezinu turns out mafia, we successfully reduced mafia killing power and we know that either useLess or aZnvaLiaNce are mafia, and that imDerek, Alventenie and Evilmonkey are all innocent.

Should both Chezinu and fusionsdf be townies (worst case. cost: 1 detective check, 1 vigilante hit, 1 townie), we can at least deduce that useLess and aZnvaLiaNce are innocent too, and that there is one mafia among imDerek, Alventenie and Evilmonkey.

now this is kind of costly and risky. is your detective even free to act or has he already used up his powers for today? alternatively, you could tell the jack to act as a detective, if possible. it is also quite likely that we'll kill a townie or two on the way. i'm willing to take this risk though, especially since noone of the seven suspects appears to be overly active or useful in the thread.

what do you say? at least it is a plan. the last day was really chaotic and fruitless, i think we need some direction.

see you,
Scorch

On April 07 2008 17:04 Scorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2008 15:16 MidnightGladius wrote:
Cross-referencing some lists:
+ Show Spoiler +

Confirmed Innocent:

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler


Ghar - 7(now 5) (1 Mafia)
useLess
aZnvaLiaNce
ShadowDrgn
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
Evilmonkey.


Ace - 7(now 5) (1 Mafia)
Chezinu
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
fusionsdf
~OpZ~
Evilmonkey.


Here, the following coincide in the two lists:

imDerek
Evilmonkey
Alventenie


Whereas these occur once:

Chezinu
useLess
aZnvaLiaNce
fusionsdf


Of these, the following can easily be count-checked:

fusionsdf (only one voting for Ace)
Chezinu (only one voting for Ninja4ever)
---
aZnvaLiaNce voted for TranceStorm with 13 others, so that's a dead end for now.


Abstentions:

imDerek
Evilmonkey
Alventenie
useLess


Do with this what you will.


I'd like to emphasize this once more:

We have the following certain information:
EITHER one out of
- imDerek
- Evilmonkey
- Alventenie

is mafia, OR two out of
- Chezinu
- useLess
- aZnvaLiaNce
- fusionsdf

are mafia.
From among the second list, only one of useLess and aZnvaLiaNce can be mafia - not both -, and only one of Chezinu and fusionsdf can be mafia.

At worst, we have a 1/7 chance to get a mafia from among these, a stunning 2/4 at best, so i emphatically suggest we take this path in our investigations. Keep your eyes open for evidence against any of these guys!

My gut feeling says it's either useLess and fusionsdf or Evilmonkey, but it's just that: an unfounded gut feeling.
It later turned out that my strategy was based on decaf's incorrect detective list. Luckily the plan was never carried out
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 07 2008 08:07 GMT
#6927
On August 07 2008 11:06 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2008 06:50 Ninja4ever. wrote:
See guys, i wasn't mafia.
The good thing when you're suspect is that you're sure mafia won't lynch you. (You might be lynched yourself though, but that's another problem)


Agreed.

Except your plan of playing along and appearing suspicious worked too well and you really got lynched by accident
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
September 14 2008 11:29 GMT
#6939
Well the Power Rank was scheduled for September too...
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 23 2008 08:33 GMT
#6956
Hooray! All hail to Chuiu! Long live the glorious town of Liquidia!
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