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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-11 06:31:54
April 11 2008 06:29 GMT
#4203
On April 11 2008 14:49 Plexa wrote:
ok
<font size='4'>WITHDRAW VOTES FROM AZNVALIANCE</font>

today we should be voting seifu + evilmonkey unless someone has any objections?


EVERYONE:

I reccomend you

first vote: evilmonkey
second vote: seifu

Even though I normally disagree with plexa, I think this is a sound decision.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 11 2008 07:11 GMT
#4208
Ace, you still have one of your votes on qrs and the other on seifu
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 11 2008 14:58 GMT
#4235
Its extraneous words, so I consider it a clue, not sure if plexa does

havent been able to relate it to anything though
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 15:09 GMT
#4312
Nice work MTF
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 15:11 GMT
#4313
also, nice work on the evilmonkey guys :D
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 15:13 GMT
#4314
On April 12 2008 23:13 MTF wrote:
Aznvaliance made the first post about TranceStorm's name being connected to electricity. LTT posted the same idea a few pages later, but didn't seem too convinced of it.

Naib was advocating a double lynch to get both Useless (confirmed innocent now) and TranceStorm or Energies. Nothing solid on him, but his post rings of false enthusiasm to me. I'll look to see if I can connect anything to chess, royalty, or things that begin one way many times but always end up different later.

Nobody else really seems to have pushed for TranceStorm's demise.


GeneralStan questioned Ace's role after Ace told everyone to lynch Mandalor. BlindAlbino questioned Mandalors' guilt and then stated he believes str to be Mafia. Infundibulum made what could be interpreted as an almost passive-aggressive remark about Mandalor being doomed, then went on to accuse Ghar, str, Energies, Kau, and LostYourSkills.

Nobody else made any remarks of note that I saw. Nobody tried to stand in the way of Evilmonkey going down either, from what I saw.


AznValiance is now officially innocent with the death of evilmonkey.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-12 15:36:38
April 12 2008 15:36 GMT
#4315
From: New104
Subject: Re: Detective Ability
Date: 4/2/08 03:13
1.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
How many mafia voted for Ace on Day 3?

old message:

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler

are all confirmed innocent
-------------


uh-oh
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 18:59 GMT
#4322
On April 13 2008 01:31 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 00:36 fusionsdf wrote:
From: New104
Subject: Re: Detective Ability
Date: 4/2/08 03:13
1.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
How many mafia voted for Ace on Day 3?

old message:

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler

are all confirmed innocent
-------------


uh-oh


Btw what does this actually mean?

it seems ace is asking how many are innocent, and new replied 1 as in 1 is mafia..



it was one of the early DT list checks. New 104 asked chuiu how many mafia were on that list, and chuiu apparently said 0. New104 is dead, so we know he wasnt mafia, so was the error by chuiu, by ace?

In any case, for now I am not assuming anyone on that list is innocent
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 21:43 GMT
#4331
On April 13 2008 04:16 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 03:59 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 13 2008 01:31 Camlito wrote:
On April 13 2008 00:36 fusionsdf wrote:
From: New104
Subject: Re: Detective Ability
Date: 4/2/08 03:13
1.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message:
How many mafia voted for Ace on Day 3?

old message:

MTF
SpiritoftheTuna
d.arkive
Pangolin(2)
Plexa
~OpZ~
NatsuTerran
Eti307
Empyrean
JoxxOr
Romance_us
BloodyC0bbler

are all confirmed innocent
-------------


uh-oh


Btw what does this actually mean?

it seems ace is asking how many are innocent, and new replied 1 as in 1 is mafia..



it was one of the early DT list checks. New 104 asked chuiu how many mafia were on that list, and chuiu apparently said 0. New104 is dead, so we know he wasnt mafia, so was the error by chuiu, by ace?

In any case, for now I am not assuming anyone on that list is innocent

Ace - 7
Chezinu
Alventenie
imDerek
TranceStorm
fusionsdf
~OpZ~(2)
Evilmonkey.

New104 asked to check this list. 1 was on this list and that's Evilmonkey. No error there.


I wasnt talking about that list:
I was talking about another one. Now I just need to figure out where I got it.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-12 21:48:19
April 12 2008 21:44 GMT
#4332
On April 13 2008 06:28 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2008 23:09 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
On April 12 2008 23:00 MTF wrote:
L led the way against Ghar, but it was a seemingly good clue. Eti307 supported him quite a bit and at the same time pointed the finger at ShadowDrgn. D.arkive also posted not too much later in support of L's finding, though this still does not prove L is guilty.

Plexa needs to tell us who sent him + Show Spoiler [this message.] +
Original Message:
hi!

i just read your latest post. i'd like to direct your attention towards ghar's signature, which you seem to have left out of your reasoning:

"All right, theyre on our left, theyre on our right, theyre in front of us, theyre behind us...they cant get away this time."

this is a quote by some reckless general whose troops are surrounded by enemies, but who still remains positive and not afraid of losing.

now when you connect this to mr. pink's traits...

Traits
- Seems to be well composed
- Not phased by death, (necessary change?)
- Able fighter
(- Potentially one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse)

... i think this fits the second and third trait quite well. the general isn't afraid of dying, even though outnumbered. and, as a professional soldier, he is a good fighter as well.

furthermore, as SoMuchBetter said, Ghar is currently inactive due to a martial arts appointment. i have no idea if Chuiu knew this and would use this as a hint, but Ghar being a fighter himself would fit Mr.Pink's third character trait perfectly.

and say what you will, but the picture of him holding the scalp of a chopped-off head fits just too well.
.

Whoever it was, they were dedicated to Ghar taking the fall.

Looking into others...

I dont think Eti307 is mafia
Reason : iirc, he was part of the mafia last game and he never said anything. dunno why he would do such accusations if he was mafia


My reasons better...Darkive or w/e his name is death on a list with 1 mafia in which Eti307 also voted for...

edit:

New's list

That list was supposed to have 0 innocents, and had d.arkive.

For that reason, I am not trusting it right now. i.e., that list is from the false jack
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 21:49 GMT
#4334
You are innocent because of a different list opz
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 22:06 GMT
#4337
On March 25 2008 17:39 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2008 17:31 wurm wrote:
On March 25 2008 17:21 MoRe_mInErAls wrote:
On March 25 2008 17:19 wurm wrote:
lol im a suspect.

First point: I abstained from voting because, at the beginning, i didn't really like the way you handled things. Now that Mandalor was proven to be Mafia, i'm beginning to like you as Mayor.

Second point: I, along with a few others, don't like your system of finding Mafia. Yes, it does work, but it's not my cup of tea. Last game was quite addicting considering townies lost, but it was still addicting. Besides, you already have a mob of followers so my one vote obviously won't make a difference seeing as Day voting was 70+ for Mandalor and only 7 for Ghar.

So yeah, I kinda like doing my own thing. Funny how doing this = mafioso.


Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists mafioso


So... hard... to... choose.

Seriously though, just because i didn't pm a role to Ace isn't exactly concrete evidence.


either way you're almost guaranteed to be Suspect #1 tomorrow. And I think you are being either incredibly stupid or suspicious.

I'm going to explain why right now.


This is so far, what I know about the Mafia kill list for night 1 looking like:


1.)Mynock
2.)goldenkrnboi
3.)NeaX
4.)Yogurt
5.)OneBlueAugust
6.)X
7.)Y
8.)
9.)


8 and 9 are unexplained, and possible that Mafia sent in more than 1 hit against one of those names.

Out of X and Y, one of those names said they got a PM from you claiming to be a Paramedic.

So that person survived one hit against them and lived, and got a PM from you saying you're a paramedic that protected them.

Interesting.

Because that same person also got another PM from another Paramedic claiming they also protected him. Strange. On the first night, the Mafia sent out a kill list with the same person listed TWICE instead of exercising full power? Doubt it. That kill list would look like this:

1.)Mynock
2.)goldenkrnboi
3.)NeaX
4.)Yogurt
5.)OneBlueAugust
6.)X
7.)Y
8.)Y
9.)

So I posted that we've got a Medic problem, and PM'd you to ask you your role after you've been dodging the question for days and you still won't answer me. I think you're scum because at this point I doubt any townie would avoid something that would obviously clear up so much confusion.

If you really are a medic, then the suspicion stays on you and Mafia probably wont kill you tonight.
If you aren't a medic and a vigilante doesn't kill you tonight, then you are certainly on the chopping block tomorrow. And by that point I wouldn't really care what your role was because your excuse is bullshit.

Good riddance ^_^


Ace, just brininging up this old post.

We know wurm was a paramedic. It seems to me that the medic who disagreed with him is false.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 12 2008 22:16 GMT
#4338
Also, Im going back through the old posts, and people were saying mandalor didnt have any clues.

He did.

Martial.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-13 00:22:26
April 13 2008 00:20 GMT
#4343
Oh I think I get it
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 02:11 GMT
#4347
On April 13 2008 10:15 HeRoS)Pink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2008 21:50 Plexa wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Snake Charmer] +
Snake Charmer came in with a sword in hand and they saw Cottonmouth with a belt of knives and half a moment later Mr. White came in and closed the door.

Snake Charmer wasn't just standing idle though as he slashed away at goldenkrnboi giving him one gruesome gash after another. He was just about dead when Mr. White stomped goldenkrnboi's head in finishing him off.
Traits
- Uses swords
(- Possible kill bill reference)
(- Not present in opening night)


At first I was Searching for someone who was causing shock, repugnance. (So no Fek)
But one word just retain my attention : Idle
Why using such a useless word.

So I remember seeing something about lazyness in a quote
It was from ieatkids5
Quote : Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now.
We doesnt have really much information about Snake Charmer atm, but i would say its a stronger clue than all the others I have brought yet.

Edit : I just realise that his name could provoke shock and repugnance


I actually agree with this :<
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 04:08 GMT
#4369
On April 13 2008 11:25 Camlito wrote:
[3,31]Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack.

Do clues like this still work in this game? (this clue relates to midnightgladius).


we dont know.

There are two camps.

One says that all non mafia sentences are filler, and we should only look at clues and traits that are linked to specific mafia.

The other says that, looking at the last mafia game, clues are to be found even in "extra" sentences, and we should look for a repeat of clues, in the form of extraneous and out of place words, and not just at specific mafia behaviour.
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 04:25 GMT
#4372
Ease shows up a ton

I really think anything linked to that is solid
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 04:48 GMT
#4375
On April 13 2008 13:46 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2008 13:08 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 13 2008 11:25 Camlito wrote:
[3,31]Next door French_Toast was grabbing a midnight snack.

Do clues like this still work in this game? (this clue relates to midnightgladius).


we dont know.

There are two camps.

One says that all non mafia sentences are filler, and we should only look at clues and traits that are linked to specific mafia.

The other says that, looking at the last mafia game, clues are to be found even in "extra" sentences, and we should look for a repeat of clues, in the form of extraneous and out of place words, and not just at specific mafia behaviour.
And there is a third camp which suggests the two camps are not mutually inclusive


And a fourth camp that says they are not mutually exclusive :D
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 18:25 GMT
#4408
In case anyone cares, my suspect list is
General Stan
RtS)Night[Mare
ieatkids5
ShaLLoW[baY]
Romance_us
suresh0t
MidnightGladius
Last Romantic

LostYourSKills
MTF
unforgiven_ve
SpiritoftheTuna
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 13 2008 20:30 GMT
#4414
On April 14 2008 04:32 0cz3c wrote:
Fusion, does the space fragment between the two show that the bottom is more certain, or the top, or does it not have any significance (personally to me the top seems more convincing (most have clues linked to them that have been mentioned several times (with the exception of shallow -- his behavior just DOES NOT SEEM to be behavior of a mafia) seem strong), but that's a larger field than the out-of-four).


top is more certain

And I think they are all in the mandalor list as well
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
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